Kill me now. ("Thanks" to MFIA for the link.)
The Washington Nationals took a major step toward freeing room on their future payroll and breaking loose a logjam in the middle infield, agreeing to trade second baseman Jose Vidro...to the Seattle Mariners for...Chris Snelling, a 25-year-old outfielder with a history of injuries, and Emiliano Fruto, a 22-year-old right-handed reliever with an exceptional changeup, in exchange for Vidro.
I am seriously ill.
WHAT
vidro we have LOPEZNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ZeZetheX - December 13, 2006
WHUT IN TEH HELL!!???
ThundaPC - December 13, 2006
Kill me now.
Goose - December 13, 2006
JOKE ARTICLE
This has to be an incredibly well done practical joke! It HAS to be! I mean, Bavasi isn't this dumb, is he?!Naliamegod - December 13, 2006
WHy
Oh Why?ZeZetheX - December 13, 2006
You've got to be kidding.
Deanna - December 13, 2006
We couldn't have traded Jeremy Reed first?
This is ridiculous...ThundaPC - December 13, 2006
*Pulls trigger*
Happybelly - December 13, 2006
Please
Take me back to the time when I read Mariner Mail bag and believed the crap they fed me. I think I was happier overall. As much as I love understanding the game at a greater level, when an organization is run like the Mariners it sucks the life out of you.Now lets play a game. Pick the adj. to describe Vidro.
Vetern bat
Proven Leader
Left Handed Bat!
K that isn't helping.
Peen - December 13, 2006
At least he gets on base
Scruffy Lefty - December 13, 2006
WTF?
What the hell is this?I can't believe this is happening.
Seriously, why am I an M's fan again?
anotherjeff - December 13, 2006
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Uh. Right.Seriously, did Bavasi have a stroke and lose half his brain function?
We traded for a second baseman. We already have one.
Is Lopez gonna be sent off in a package for something else or is this just another illogical moved meant to leave the "Bavasi stain" on the franchise when he gets fired?
Ben in Va - December 13, 2006
I need somebody to give me an explaination of why
the hell we would do this. Isn't Lopez a legit hitter. Vidro isn't a bad player but he sure doesn't fill a need this team has. My fear is that this is setting up another move to come. Ahhh!Edgar for Pres - December 13, 2006
I was thinking maybe this means Sexson
is getting traded and they would shift Lopez to 1B but he really doesn't hit enough to play 1B, right?Edgar for Pres - December 13, 2006
I think Vidro
would play first instead of LopezScruffy Lefty - December 13, 2006
I am guessing this might be having to do...
with the Betancourt situation. That could end up being very bad. I work with Customs and things are being said in a good way.ppl4life - December 13, 2006
But the deal has been out for several days
If you read in the article it says the commissioners office has been sitting on the deal for several days. Thats before the Betancourt thing broke.Ben in Va - December 13, 2006
The Betancourt thing
has been in the works for quite a while. I am pretty sure that the front office knew about it right after the season endedppl4life - December 13, 2006
What the hell?
This move makes absolutely no sense! This is possibly worse than the Soriano trade because WE DON'T NEED A FUCKING 2B!!!! I hope Snelling never gets hurt again and becomes a pereniall all-star just to stick it up Bavasi's ass! Oh wait, that's impossible because his head is already up it!basebliman - December 13, 2006
Lopes probably IS gone because of this
If you can deal Snelling, practically no one is safe.ThundaPC - December 13, 2006
Maybe the commish will block this move
because of the sheer stupidity.Edgar for Pres - December 13, 2006
Betancourt has to be going to jail because of
the smuggling thing and Lopez is becoming the SS.That's the only even close to logical explanation I can think of.
Goose - December 13, 2006
Even if that's true...
I would rather sign Mark McLemore off the street than trade Snelling for Vidro.Happybelly - December 13, 2006
That would be bad
Better get Lopez on that treadmill right now otherwise his defense at SS will be painful. Especially with all those GB pitchers we just got. Grrr, this move isn't what I need right now.Edgar for Pres - December 13, 2006
Yuni in jail?
Funny thought...hopefully it won't come to be.WAB - December 13, 2006
I think there's got to be wires crossed.
It just doesn't make sense. So I'm not going to bother reacting until this shows up in more than one media outlet, preferrably one based on mlb.com somewhere.Deanna - December 13, 2006
This makes perfect sense
We had to get rid of Snelling to make room for Cliff Floyd.Right?
tait644 - December 13, 2006
They are still
talking to him thoughppl4life - December 13, 2006
Also, I think we killed USSM.
Deanna - December 13, 2006
Or they killed themselves
................Goose - December 13, 2006
Ha ha!
OK Jeff, you got me!Zing! Whoo boy, that would suck wouldn't it.
You can stop now.
Seriously jeff.
Stop it.
Now.
marc w - December 13, 2006
Rotoworld's quip
"Can't someone fire Bill Bavasi before he does anymore damage? The Mariners are taking on $12 million of the $16 million Vidro is owed over the next two years, which would be reasonable if Vidro still happened to be a quality defensive second baseman. As is, the Mariners figure to DH him and keep Jose Lopez at second base. Vidro's OPS has dropped four straight seasons, falling to 763 in 2005 and 744 last season. Also, he hasn't remained healthy enough to get 500 at-bats since 2003. Snelling certainly had a realistic chance of being a better DH, and Fruto has a fair amount of upside as either a starter or a reliever. Amazingly enough, this is another winner for Nats GM Jim Bowden."Goose - December 13, 2006
This is fucking obsurd
Why? I thought he liked Snelling. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-U Bavasi.Edgar for Pres - December 13, 2006
Man
This is embarassing.ThundaPC - December 13, 2006
Maybe Bavasi found a time machine...
to take us back to the 2000 Jose Vidro.Yes, it's a lame comment, but I have nothing left inside at the moment.
Happybelly - December 13, 2006
It's like the 80's all over again...
we are once again the laughing stock of baseball!basebliman - December 13, 2006
Ok
I need to think before I type. Otherwise I'm going to make a bunch of death threats that will seem extreme tomorrow.What is he thinking?
Edgar for Pres - December 13, 2006
WOOOOOOOOO!
GO NATIONALS!!!!!!DKulich44 - December 13, 2006
Well
there goes the Doyle jersey I was planning on getting for Christmas.At least Bavasi didn't wait until after the Holidays to drop this piece of crap on us.
ningwers - December 13, 2006
Soooo.....
When are we going to trade Johjima to Oakland?ThundaPC - December 13, 2006
the rotoworld
report might be wrong. According to mlb trade rumors.com it says the nationals are paying 12 of the 16 million left on the contract. I wonder if they are going to trade beltre so lopez can play 3rd. who knows.lowrig - December 13, 2006
MLBtraderumors has mariners
paying 12 of 16 million leftCan this get any worse?
With Bill Bavasi left, the answer is yes.
Lets just hope he gets fired before that happens
Frerken - December 13, 2006
Jeff, Don't thank me
for the link... I debated long and hard on whether to post it, hoping it would go away... and knowing the backlash that would come with it.Thru the years I've been known as a FO supporter, but this year even I (capt optimist) can find nothing positive in any moves that Bavasi has made.
It almost seems as if he's read the writing on the wall so he's just doing what he can to seal the fate he see's coming.
Unless... he's got some backroom agreement with the board members to use this season to oust Lincoln and Armstrong.... and that's just wishful thinking.
MfaninAlaska - December 13, 2006
I wish it were 2000 again.
Pre-LL and all that. I want to be back on the boards, arguing with you and phred and DM and everyone while the Mariners won 90 games and made the playoffs. Back when baseball didn't actually make me angry.Man. What? I mean, what?
Jeff Sullivan - December 13, 2006
Those were the good days
When you would argue about crap but still go to bed happy cause the M's were heading to the playoffs and we were destined to deal with the Yankee's in the ALCS....Now its.... me checking the fishing regs up here and not being bothered by what series the M's are playing this weekend.
This winter has sucked the life right out of me.
MfaninAlaska - December 13, 2006
go seahawks
Matthew - December 13, 2006
Yep.
I liked when petty arguments on the boards were my biggest Mariner-related problem.Jeff Sullivan - December 13, 2006
Maybe
We should all become Angel fans, so that our "luck" can infect them instead of the Mariners. They already have a website run by a DM Clone.....MfaninAlaska - December 13, 2006
I propose the following:
J.W. Pezzino - December 13, 2006
Yeah, but where can you get a flux capacitor
these days...?BrettJMiller - December 13, 2006
Billy Beane has one.
Says it'll only cost us Betancourt.Jeff Sullivan - December 13, 2006
Not enough
we should throw in Clement too, just to be friendly.Matthew - December 13, 2006
Hey it would be woth it cause we could go back
in time and "remove" Beane too.Edgar for Pres - December 13, 2006
Any way...
...we could have Theo adopted by some people on Queen Anne?Bigfoot Hunter - December 13, 2006
Man,
Out-GM's by Bowden. How low can we go?I hate this deal from the bottom of my shriveled heart.
Paytheline - December 13, 2006
FUCK.
I want to cry.IcebreakerX - December 13, 2006
Im sorry
But honestly, I like the deal. If this means Lopez or Beltre is gone for a TOR starter...so be it. I love Snelling, but we havent seen him for 200 AB yet at the MLB level and dont know if we will. I like what Vidro brings to the table and is a perfect #2 hitter behind Ichiro.tkballer22 - December 13, 2006
You like what Vidro brings to the table huh?
So you like guys who slug under .400, don't get on base much, are really immobile and gimped up, on a serious decline, and make about $6 million a year?Explain to me, what there is to like about Jose Vidro.
Then explain to me who is going to trade us a TOR pitcher for Adrian Beltre or Jose Lopez.
Also, explain to me how Jose Vidro is the perfect #2 hitter behind Ichiro.
Goose - December 13, 2006
Well in fairness
if Vidro returns to form. He will get on base without striking out muchScruffy Lefty - December 13, 2006
I am so sorry
I'm and A's fan, but I've always liked the Ms in a "well they're a division rival but it's hard not to root for them against anyone else" sort of way.It's really disappointing to watch what Bavasi is doing to you guys. My condolences.
MrIncognito @ Lookout Landing - December 14, 2006
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