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23-32

Okay, so I was lying about today being the return to full recaps, but it's not every day that you get three hours of sleep and put your shoulder through a wall. A Lightning Round Wrap-Up will have to suffice, although maybe it's better that way anyway, since having a job prevents me from being able to watch 11 o'clock baseball games and it doesn't make much sense to try and write at length about a game I didn't watch.

Biggest Contribution: Raul Ibanez, +23.9%
Biggest Suckfest: Tie! Willie Ballgame, Kenji Johjima, -3.8%
Most Important Hit: Ibanez homer, +15.6%
Most Important Pitch: Matthews grand slam, -19.1%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +3.9%
Total Contribution by Hitters: +44.3%

(What is this?)

  • Depending on your perspective, this was either a satisfying beatdown of a division rival or the most bittersweet of victories. On the one hand, the Mariners are only six games out of first despite totally sucking, which is practically unfathomable, but on the other, Mike Hargrove is unlikely to be fired after a win, much less several wins, since the Royals shouldn't pose much of a challenge. I think those are pretty much the only two stances people have on the team right now.

  • ...of course, you can't ever be sure; I haven't bothered to check, since I wouldn't know where to start, but I'm sure managers have been fired after wins before, and I'm sure it'll happen again in the future. We're at the point where one game really shouldn't make any difference on how the manager is viewed by the organization, especially a game that was only watchable because the M's strung together another one of their patented weakass 17-single onslaughts. It seems unlike the Mariners to make that kind of move at a time like this, but if ever there was a team in need of a total shakeup, this is it.

  • ...no, I don't know if firing Mike Hargrove will help the ballclub, but I think the odds are pretty slim that they come out looking worse, so in that respect, yes, I'm looking forward to Grover's termination. I'm beyond sick of his act.

  • My archived MLB.tv feed isn't working, so I can't check up on how Felix was mixing his pitches (I'll leave that to David Cameron), but I think it comes to absolutely no one's surprise that Matthews' grand slam came on a fastball. The more I see that happen, the more I think that Felix's crazy home-run-per-outfield-fly-ball percentage is less a factor of luck and more a factor of guys knowing with 100% certainty what's coming and gearing up for a powerful swing. It should still even out over time, only for different reasons than usual, and ones that we've gotten into time and time again after seemingly every Felix start this season.

  • Felix is the only pitcher in baseball to have allowed more than one grand slam on the season (there were 23 such pitchers a year ago). The Mariners as a team have allowed six, also the highest total in the league. There's no real reason for this to be the case - they're not a disproportionately fly ball-oriented pitching staff, nor have they had more bases loaded situations than anyone else - but it's interesting nonetheless. Good to see them leading the league in something.

  • In six innings since coming off the DL, Julio Mateo has fanned seven hitters while walking just one. More importantly, his velocity has been up around 91-92, where a month and a half ago he was hovering in the high 80's. With his shoulder soreness seemingly behind him, Mateo should spend the rest of the season as a moderately effective middle reliever capable of preventing Jake Woods from allowing more nine-run innings.

  • Kenji Johjima's current batting line: .274/.330/.405. Quick and dirty offseason "projection": .270/.319/.413. I thought it was a little pessimistic at the time, but as of right now, it's not looking too bad.

  • The Mariners don't have a single player with an OPS above .800 (Mike Morse doesn't count). Just putting that out there...
As a final note, I present to you the following table:
Adrian Beltre
2004 2006
BB% 8.1 6.7
K% 14.5 20.6
1B% 60.0 80.4
GB/FB 1.02 1.33
HR/FB 23.1% 3.8%

The Adrian Beltre that we paid for is gone, replaced by a completely different type of hitter. Get used to it.

Off day tomorrow, getting ready for a four-game set against Kansas City in Seattle. Jamie Moyer will go up against some guy I've never heard of Friday night at 7:05pm PDT.

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Holy crap
we get 4 against the Royals?

please fire Hargrove now so we can be 27-32 on monday night.

I Love...
the bomb graphic. I laugh when I see it. I can't say why.

I don't love that Beltre is proving beyond an reasonable doubt that he is indeed a bust. I don't smile when I think about it. It pisses me off.

I have a huge feeling that we are going to start seeing Mike Morse fluff in the papers and very soon. Seriously look at that Batting Average! hahahaha

So is Morse ever going to turn into anything
He seems like he could be good and develop into something nice but that might just be me hoping.  I'm not quite sure.  Does anybody have any info to contribut about him because I think I'm basically tricking myself into thinking he will be good.
decent util guy
poor defense, below average stick for the premium offense positions. Decent bench guy.
Do you think he's every going to develop
any power?  He seems like he can handle himself but I've only really seen singles and an occational double.
I actually think so
again, not enough for the positions his defense puts him at.

His best possible value to the Ms, I believe, is to have another run like he did when he first came up last year so that some GM out there takes a chance on him as a SS with offense and deals us some pitching in return. Or something.

Seems like he's probably
just hanging out in the M's clubhouse hoping somebody breaks something.
Mike Morse = poor man's Rob Mackowiak
I guess that's a compliment
Time for Player A and Player B to show up again.
Player A's minor league stats: .281/.337/.375
Player B's minor league stats: .259/.312/.406

Player A and Player B both started out super-hot, and both are viewed as swing players who can play infield/outfield.

Player A is WFB. Player B is Mike Morse.

So, basically, Morse is a slightly better power hitter (note slightly, his career high in HR in years he wasn't juicing is 10), but doesn't hit as well or walk as much, and of course isn't as good on the basepaths.

Why he should have a full time job, I have no idea.

Please Please Please
sack Hargrove now. Don't let the Kansas City series save his job.
That's my worry
That the 14-5 win saved his ass and that four straight wins over KC or even 3 of 4 will earn him at least another few weeks.
You know that's gonna happen
We'll sweep KC, everyone will be like "OMG 5 game win streak, M's turned it around!" and Grover's ass will be safe for another week.
Yep and after that 5 game win streak we will
be about 2 games up on the last place Angels and like 3 games back of the first place Rangers.

.....and then we'll lose the next 8 out of 9.

Are people under the impression
That Team Hargrove is good enough to sweep Kansas City?
yes
any randomly assembled group of nine people from this site could take at least 3 of 4 from KC.
I call first base!
When do we play?
I call guy that gets to play all nine positions
Would be nice to be the "who was the last player to play all nine positions in one game" trvia answer
Not so fast...
Oakland A's just LOST two of three to 'em Royals, ya know.  
Oakland
appears to blow goats.
And yet....
We haven't beaten them since we had a winning record.
Even back in the 90s
when we were good and the A's were bad, we still had a hard time beating them. Now, when they are bad and we are worse, we still can't beat them. Just one of those things.
Hm
Oakland:  :blow:
Goat:  baaaaAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Royals:  :wins series:  Huh? ... ew, look what Nick Swisher's doing to that goat.
Oh goodie!
It appears that the Royals first two starting pitchers are lefties.  That means we can extend Willie to EIGHT straight starts (including taking Ibanez's place) while Reed continues to rot on the bench.
Scratch that
I was looking at old data.  This new guy for the first game is a righty.
Ichiro left game?
I didn't see the game; did something happen to Ichiro?  All I can see from Gameday is that in the bottom of the 9th Willie switched to RF and Reed came in at CF.  The wrap on the official site didn't mention anything.
We were up by 9 runs
We were up by alot so Hargrove started subing
people.No biggie.
Beltre
I posted in a game thread on USSM that we've essentially got the hitting version of the Chan Ho Park deal on our hands right now and was vehemently derided by a few less than friendly posters over there.  Why is it so tough to recognize that Beltre is absolutely horrible?  Why do people defend him, saying stuff like, "well, he's amazing defensively and that makes him partially worth his contract."  I'm all about defense, but that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard!

A giant reason this team won't win anything for the next three years will be the money allocated to Jarrod Washburn and especially Adrian Beltre.  It's very sad, too, because the 2004 Beltre was so much fun to watch, and I was looking forward to the opposite field homerun bonanza in Safeco that Beltre showed possible in '04.  Suckage :(

Who says we won't win anything in the next
three years?
I never understood 'amazing defensively'
Wilson Valdez was pretty amazing defensively.  Ditto some guy named Betancourt.  Pay them $65 million?
what's so hard to understand?
Beltre's great defense makes him worth more than just his hitting line would indicate. Specifically about 2-4M.
Beltre is one thing
but both Beltre AND Sexson sucking, last year's premium/historic  signings, is simply a case of Fate yucking it up at the M's expense. There's no particular "reason" for it. The question is, how do the M's adapt to the problem? At this point, we may have to eat some salary and trade Beltre back to the National League, where someone with 3B troubles might take a reduced-expenses flier on the possibility that he would recover his stroke in the, um, Senior Circuit. Richie? I just don't know...
Beltre's periphrals
what were they before his breakout year? Similair to 04 or 06

My friend is arguing with me he thinks 04 was Beltre doing roids

That's absurd
There is no way in hell steroids would cause that great an improvement. That's like saying Bloomquist could suddenly turn into an MVP candidate by taking steroids.
Bloomie?
I'll be gone for a while.
I need to find something to gouge my eyeballs out with then a way to translate webpages into sound.
Would never happen
There's no hustle and grit in waxing your body.
steroids wouldn't cut down your K%
Yes
Beltre wasn't scared shitless of missing swings in 04 like he has been the last couple years.
True...
When you have nothing to prove, it's easier to just do your thing.

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