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9/2: Open Have Some Mimosas With Breakfast Thread

First Pitch: 10:07am PDT

                   

Ichiro CF Wells CF Vidro DH Adams 3B Guillen RF Rios RF Ibanez "LF" Thomas DH Beltre 3B Stairs LF Broussard 1B Overbay 1B Johjima C Hill 2B Lopez 2B Zaun C Betancourt SS McDonald SS ---------- ----------

Weaver (6-10, 5.62)         Burnett (7-7, 3.70)

On April 25th, Jake Peavy struck out 16 Diamondbacks in seven innings, allowing none of his five baserunners to score. On August 19th, Johan Santana struck out 17 Rangers in eight innings, allowing none of his two baserunners to score. On September 1st, Clay Buchholz struck out nine Orioles in nine innings, allowing none of his three baserunners to score.

One of these starts will go down in history and be talked about for months. The other two may have already been forgotten, despite being substantially more impressive. Off the top of my head, Buchholz's performance doesn't even crack the top 20 or 25 so far this year; hell, Scott Baker and Andy Sonnanstine were both better just the day before. But good luck getting ESPN and other major media types to shut up about this. As far as majestic achievements are concerned, no-hitters are insanely overrated.

Oh, and the Mariners are playing.

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Comments

earliest thread ever....
I'm not giving up yet
I don't want to wake up before ten tomorrow.
Johnny Mac doesn't care about Buchholtz either
Wake him up when Buchholtz has been through wars.
The game's gonna be over before I wake...
So I appreciate this thread.
Can we win now please?
The worst part
Is that Clay plays for the team with the greatest number of jackass fans.
Several of whom texted me today.
Thanks guys.
Why would you care?
I know, that's the point. Jesus, I guess Red Sox fans ARE some of the most annoying douchebags on the planet.
They're friends/brother of mine.
But still.
Because the Red Sox haven't had enough
good things happen to them.

We all know what's coming next. Mariano Rivera is going to get injured a week before the season ends, and Joba is gonna single handily pitch them to their 27th World Series title.

Oh depressing Mariners
when will it be our turn...
well
since i dont plan on waking till the crack of noon, here goes some game thread sayings

Woot woot, wtf, stupid manager

there, got my fill

I still give him some credit
A lot of pressure, a rookie for the best team with not the best defense and die-hard fans.  It's impressive, even if it is not quite as skillful.  Give some credit to the Boston minor league staff who got him ready enough to pull off that feat.  We certainly won't see anything like that for a while.
Unless she pitches for us.

I'm not giving up on trying to draft her.
I'd hit it with my bat.
I'm calling BS on that
Asian chicks don't have racks that big.  Although it does prove the point that we would watch inferior sports as long as my eyes had something to watch.  WNBA are you listening?
Some do. Real too.
I've dated one before.  It's rare, but by no means unheard of.  And yes, they do get a lot of attention from men in Japan.
Real
But they've been through the wars.
Fake boobies
don't bounce like that.
Two words: Bobo Holloman.
Don't get me wrong, it is impressive.
But it's not amazing.
Sorry but
another delayed game thread emotion for me:

Shit fuck.

You could say it's premptive as well.
ESPN Steve Phillips still picks us to win the WC
Hard to believe that we're still in it.
Yawn.
So...  Go M's?
That chat with Phillips was pre-Angel's series.
I wonder if he changed his mind after watching us get run over.  =/
No
Not this one.  He says because of the eight game losing streak the M's are due to turn it around and get hot again.
i think he's auditioning....
uh-oh.
This is goin' on TiVo
I get up in the afternoon, watch the game, become excited/disappointed at the result.
New and interesting ways to lose
The Johnny McMariners have found interesting ways to lose during the streak. I'm wondering what fresh hell McLaren has cooked up for us today. Maybe, if we list the awful ways that we could lose, it will jinx us into winning. I'll start with a few:
  1. Filling out the line-up card with blind disregard for who is pitching, hitting ability or maximizing our chance of winning.
  2. Inserting Parrish or White in a high leverage situation.
  3. Ignoring pinch hitters until the game is out of reach.
  4. Sitting able players while the walking dead chase down fly balls.
  5. Being an idiot (this might be too broad).
Nosotros estamos bonados.
They haven't scored for Weaver at Skydome yet
NOSOTROS ESTAMOS BONADOS.
go m's.
</remaining shred of optimism>
upset stomach, indigestion, heartburn and
DIARRHEA!
lol, Weaver picking his nose
that sums it all up.
Leadoff walk...
and so it begins
weaver looks pretty good...
McClaren looks pretty leg-crossy, polite-victorian.
Nice inning...
good way to get out of a jam...now, could we see the offense, please???
this looks like a loss.
This is going well
IS this guy on his way
to a 15 K game?
nahh
too many pitches

he's averaging 6 pitch per PA right now.

they never learn
curveball out of the zone?
i'm guessing the mariners are boned.
I hope Burnett throws a perfect game
just to give a big F U to Buchholz.
Nine in a row.
Up yours, last August.
how 'bout those Seahawks?!
First pitch was NOT a ball.
I hope something cool happens this month
because otherwise we're looking at a playoffs consisting of:

Yankees - ugh
Red Sox - UGH
Indians - UGH
Angels - UGH!!!

Mets - ugh
Cubs - ugh
Padres - yay
Diamondbacks - ...

there's only two teams that I don't actively hate and the only that I could sorta actually root for are the new Oakland in playoff terms.

Come on Brewers, Phillies, Braves, and Mariners

somebody for the love of god do something because I can't even abstain from the playoffs if I want to. Don't force me to watch 6 teams I hate please.

Uh huh.
I think I'm going to be depending on Peavy/Young to do an awful lot next month.
if it ends up that way
i will skip the playoffs this year.
I'm going to wish I could
microbrew sales in the downtown Seattle area are going to see a noticeable spike if this is how it ends.
1 run?
game over.
ANOTHER GREG ZAUN HOMER?
Aaaand I'm out.
Fuck this fucking team
i forgot,
holy crap this sucks.

it's pretty funny, though.

*HOOOORRRRRRNNNNNNNN*
Way to step it up guys
If it gets to 10
I'm rooting for losses
other teams have curses
and we have seen with the White Sox and the Red Sox that is no longer insurmountable. The Cubs will probably win this year to complete the trifecta.

The Mariners are hated by God, however.

niehaus is trying his hardest.
we haven't suffered long enough
tune in again in 2077 or so
lopez makes a jeter-like play.
yay!
showing little range
and needlessly jumping?
pretty much...
it might make web-gems though.
I have to say
it feels good to have LL back to its losing roots. All those peppy threads were uncomfortable for me.
i miss the days of Matt Kata
I won't officially give up
until after the Yankee series.  If we leave that series 4 or more games back then I really don't care what happens.  I'll root for Wlad, Clement and even Reed to get AB's.
You're a rare breed.
well we've hit rock bottom
I don't have enough energy left to be pessimistic.
Energy?
You're a Mariner fan and LL reader. Pessimism should be your natural state.
you're right, I didn't get much sleep last night
season = over.
I didn't either.
It's fucking 100 degrees here. Best climate in the country my ass.
it's 110 for me
nothing like 100 degree weather at 9 am!
dont ever EVER say weve hit rock bottom
shit. here comes a Matt Hasselbeck knee injury.
baseball rock bottom
I'm hoping to avoid football rock bottom.
this game has moved right on by mimosa
and entered

territory.

I need to go to the liquor store.
how are the liquor prices in CA?
I'm still having trouble adjusting to Seattle. It's about 2x what I paid in NJ.

But I never went to the "packing stores" when I lived in CT so I can't compare with other east coast states.

I dunno.
I don't actually buy liquor. Strictly beer for me, although the Mariners are trying to change that.
you should substitute your beer thread....
w/ a hard liquor thread at this point.

ease the pain

That was cute.
McDonald thought he had to rush that play.
YOU JUST LOOKED AT THAT PITCH!
The M's pitch "selection" is atrocious
D-rays up 1-0
Jays announcers
criticizing the M's for not being aggressive enough.

What the fuck has happened to us?

Braves announcers:
Kids should not go over John Smoltz' house and play twister with him.
perfecto intact
We're getting so owned.
The bench looked pretty ecstatic right there.
"see if you can hit this Yuni!"
Yuni wins the challenge.
This is Pathetic....
they've cashed it in.
fuck you Pythagoras
Much like the Mariners
Pythagoras is dead.
and we're freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Free fallin........
I see nothing's changed
Stupid Canada.
I wouldn't want to live in a country that celebrates Labour Day.
Stupid asses...
can't even spell "Labor" properly.
HONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNK
Atta boy, Wonder Hamster.
It's about time you get to bone somebody.
i guess MLB lineups figured out weaver.
Fuck you Mariners...
fuck all that you stand for you folding jackasses.

I hope the fucking team plane crashes and only Ichiro, JJ Putz, and Adam Jones survive.

I hope Rick White survives the crash
and gets eaten by the other three for sustenance.
That foghorn will haunt my nightmares.
In AJ Burnett's nine-walk no-hitter
he threw 141 pitches.
are we now free to move about the country?
i don't even know what this means.
Yeah
You're generally asking for trouble if you go past 120.
hey, the mariners are now on the board...
i guess that's something.
Guess who's back?
O Hai!
Nice to see the M's are back.  At least they made it through most of August before they really started sucking...

KTHXBYE!

I hope Clay Buchholz tears his labrum.
And aortas.
he has more than one aorta?
freak.
What am I, a doctor?
You're just pissed
'cause Buchholz>Felix...
No
I'm pissed that people are going to think that Buchholz > Felix.
Dude.
People think Batista>Felix, merely because he leads the team in wins...
Hey, Jeff, remember what you said?
You know what I like about this job? That during weeks like this I can just mail it in and say things like "it's a beautiful day today, go outside."

It'd be nice if it didn't feel like the Mariners agreed with that.

Time for a 4 inning shutout by RRS
That was perfect positioning.
Matt Stairs sure knows how to play Ichiro
either that or he runs insanely fast for a fat doucheface.
HAHAHAHA
What a way to bust up a perfect game.  Way to use your Body Mass, their Vidro...
Who's perfect, Burnett? Not you.
Suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it suck on it
This looks like a good time
for Jose Guillen's 12th double play since the start of August.
Buh bye nohitter
Time for a Raul DP...
HAHAHAHA NICE DIVE HILL
OMG A HIT WITH RISP
Be nice if that happened BEFORE Bad Weaver gave 5 up.
Geez

Our offense has decided to take the rest of the season off haven't they?
I love watching Vidro run.
wow okay I didn't expect that
defense wins yadda yadda yadda
A run! We scored a run!
Beltre vs. Burnett...
Anyone have Beltre vs. Burnett numbers handy?

I'd guess that they are ugly. This isn't a good match-up at all for Beltre.

Actually
6-21 with four doubles and a homer before today.
I thought they got him....
And for the 101st time this season
Adrian Beltre fails to turn an 0-2 count into a walk. He's done that just twice as a Mariner.
Hey Broussard
You're allowed to look at more than 3 pitches per AB. Just FYI.
Yeah, he didn't go around.
That's okay Weaver
I didn't want to have a 3 run deficit anyway.
Greg Zaun
75 billion hits this series.
FEIERABEND? AHAHAHAHA
Funny.
Oh good
time to get Feierabent.
Respect for McLaren?
No, he doesn't deserve that, non-Hughson CBC announcer.
Those three guys behind HP are hilariously vocal
"Vernon Wells! Ngramarambara! RRRRAA!"
...thats what it sounds like to me, anyway
turn it loose?
can Russ Adams do that?
Rios: 1.049 OPS vs. lefties
This ends well.
I was not expecting that.
Timmy Chang?
looks like all those records at Hawaii got you going places.
What's he...
doing these days?

Him and Benny Agbayani were gods in Hawaii when i lived there.

The local sports cast would show every one of Benny's AB's every single freaking night.

Agbayani!
I was trying like hell to remember that guys name the other day.

Don't ask me why.

they showed Chang on the CBC broadcast
think he's playing in the CFL.
Remember 2000...
when the M's lost like 21 of 23 in August and still made the playoffs.

I do. This feels nothing like that.

15 of 18
that slump kicked this slump's ass.
Which step is anger?
I was hopeful then bitter then depressed then impartial...but now I'm just fucking pissed.

Am I going backward in the steps toward recovery as a Mariners fan?

Pissed?
It made sense to be pissed after the Lackey or Santana games. But not now.
Fun fact:
the 2000 Mariners had two players with an OPS over 1.

The 2007 Mariners have zero players with an OPS over .850.

Gameday thinks Feierabend throws
91-93. That's interesting.
interesting to everyone not named bavasi...
Zaun
will hit another HR here!
lol, I love big Frank
OMG
Any other player in baseball running, and there's no way Raul guns 'im down...
Cool.
You didn't deserve that run anyway.
Throw wasn't that amazing, Sims
Frank Thomas runs like Edgar Martinez with a torn hamstring.
no Jesse Barfield...Raul sucks
much like your son.
Ichiro strikes out twice?
we're boned
Don't worry, we'll start winning
tomorrow, since I'm getting home tonight. The Curse of Florida is almost over!
No, it's the Curse Of You.
Before you were born, we drafted Ken Griffey Jr and traded for Randy Johnson. Since then? Sam Hays and Michael Garciaparra.

Be unborn.

Don't forget...
We signed John Olerud, too.  

GAAAAAAH...

Yes, but we also signed
Ichiro, drafted A-Rod and made it too the playoffs for the first time (and another 3 times) after I was born.
Ichiro sure looks great today
On another note...
Devil Rays get out of a 1st and 3rd, one out jam in the 5th...still 1-1.
just turned on ESPN NEWS
their lead-off story...Buchholz no-hitter.
Rick White throwing.
Have we had any balls
hit in the air??? All I have seen on GameDay are strikeouts and groundouts...
Noseabend actually looks decent today.
d-rays up 2-1, top 6
If I hear the words 'right to Aaron Hill' or...
..."right to John MacDonald" again I'll scream.  They seem to get EVERYTHING.
Here come either a strikeout
or a first pitch double play
Wonder how we waste this.
this feels like a Kenji DP
M's deserve to be date raped....
for being such dick teases.
O's have a hit against Jon Lester
cool.
We're the Mariners...
we will find a way!
Who the hell
let the person with the remote control airplane into the stadium.  Man, I dunno what the hell that sound is, like a gigantic mosquito or something, but it's hella annoying...
That sac fly hurt our WE.
Lopez....
tried so hard to fuck that up that he ended up fucking up fucking it up.
yeah
I fully expected Mcdonald to make that play.
Where's you defense now, McDonald
God
Who in blue blazes taught Betancourt that long swing?
Kendry Morales
After all, they were teammates, and that's one more example of how the Angels are paying Bavasi still...
Yunibomb please
something...
And Yuni is still waiting
to turn an 0-2 count into a walk for the first time of his career.
ALL RIGHT! RICK WHITE!
Rick White is pitching?
I feel secure.
I love your sig.
Makes a lot more sense for White than Putz.
Mariners want to come from behind
by more that 2 runs...that is why Rick White is in the game
'White having some control problems here'
Wow, who'd have thought?
How many more times does Rick White have to suck

Before McLaren realizes it's a bad idea to use him in close games?
A lot more apparently
Rick White = best part of this game
Rick White walked a batter?
Either that
or we figure we CAN"T come back from a 2 run deficit, so might as well put White in....
Rick White May Single-Handedly Be Responsible
for us missing the playoffs.
That was hilarious.
I can't believe White is seriously still getting innings in close games.
Someday I'll get this in on time.
Are You Fucking Kidding Me!!!
I now have entered the nirvana like state of.....

Triumphant Disdain

Thanks, McLaren
for bringing White in to put the first 2 runners on base to make it that much more difficult for another reliever to get out of the inning...

Who actually is running this team?

it is pretty amazing....
truly is insane....
at least..
he's out of there pretty fast...
yeah that's what we needed
Might as well walk the bases loaded
it can't hurt anymore than it is going to soon anyway
Thomas moved to 2nd on that?
Lyle Overbay?
More like Lyle Over*K'd*........am I right?
Haha
Stupid Rick White. I can't help but laugh.
As if you didn't already know
this thing's over.
Aaaaaaaand it's time to burn an Aaron Hill
effigy.
There are just no more words left
to explain this ineptitude....
Greg Zaun is made of fail
except when he's made of win.
Geeawd
What an inspired pickup Rick White was.
We got out of that
only giving up one run????  Amazing
Here's another Caucasian long-haired reliever
Just come back from Bulgaria been offline 4 days..
WHAT THE FUCK.  

I feel fucking terrible.

What the hell happened to us?

regression to the mean
I think is what the kids are calling it nowadays
Oh Yeah
and a few bad breaks, on top of a bunch of ridiculously bad decisions by Johnny Mac - mostly involving one Rick White - as you just witnessed.
Mclaren happened.
And Rick White. And a bit of bad luck.

But mostly the startling realization that we are not a good baseball team.

I'm actually surprised
McLaren didn't bring in Parrish instead of EOF.

Parrish has BTTW!

I envy their defense.
I think the Jays can read Ichiro's mental signals
Cause their positioning has basically stolen two of his hits
Heh.
I like how Hughson was holding his breath, as though Vidro was going to try for a triple.
NOW we get a double...
not with 2 guys on, not when it might really make a difference...are we clutch or what???
Scott Downs comes out after giving up 1 out double
Rick White is allowed to pitch in the majors.

C'mon McLaren, start taking notes.

I love those fans.
RAUL IBANEZ

BAKSEJRHASKLEJHASLFKJ

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

They're my favorite part of this game by far
HAHAHA Raul Ibanez finally gets that grounder
to get past some infielders.
Ten days ago, that would have been
a reason for hope...today..too little, too late
Ibanez hits a hard hit groundball
that doesn't find an infielder?
That's the most shocking thing that's happened all game.
Beltré
Typical result in a high leverage situation.
.799 OPS late & close
league average: .719
While not the perfect stat for this
Beltré's season total WPA is -0.140. That could indicate he's not performing well in high leverage situations.
I have it as +.444
Raul hasn't gone deep for a while.
That's what Mrs Ibañez said
GEE
was that a first pitch swing by Beltre???  Very uncharacteristic of this team (groan)
Carlos Pena for MVP
d'rays up 5-1.
MVP of my Roto team
I don't know where they'd be without his HRs.
Don't worry....
the Yankees play the Mariners next, and I hear the Mariners suck
When they do the wave in South America
I wonder in which direction it goes.
I'll find out soon enough...
...moving to santiago Chile in January
You realize that's a myth, right?
Water goes down the drain the same direction everywhere on the planet.  The only thing that affects it is the angular shape of the basin.
Yeah, I know.
But they were doing the wave, and inspiration struck.
Tampa Bay up 5-1 on the Yanks.
And we're gonna lose again.
We're lucky
The WC race should be practically over cause of our horrible play. Devil Rays keeping us in it.
How many first pitch swings...
this inning???  Any bets???
Q: Do they play the foghorn for M's homers?
A: Who the fuck knows? The Mariners are never hitting another home run again.
Dave needs to shut up
"Ah, Hill makes ANOTHER play"....both of those plays were simple fucking plays..stop it Dave!
AARON HILL I HATE YOU SO MUCH.
Die in a fire you defensive pest motherfucker.
yah, don't PH for J-Lo here
We won't be able to put this loss on White
not after this poor 9th inning....this one goes to Weaver...
Lopez batting.
McLaren's given up.
I'm kinda rooting for losses at this point
At least they don't disappoint me!!
letting Lopez bat = admitting defeat
9 in a row
Felix in New York, please be like Felix in Boston.
Look out, New York!
Here comes the Mariner Train!

CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

With the little, overpaid, poorly managed
engine that couldn't
Mariners = Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
As big busts go, this was bigger than most.
Can this Edmund Fitzgerald play 2B?

(yes I know what that's in reference to)

Um, no...
But I hear he's a starting pitcher that throws a heckuva sinker...
I wonder how long the skid will get
I'm gonna be a jackass and say 13 games.
Fire Mac now
9 in a row during a playoff run!?!? Are you kidding me!?!
<train crashes, team dies in fire>
that was meant to be a reply
Upside:
If this tanking continues, McLaren and Bavasi will be gone.
thats probably better than the playoffs anyways
False
Playoffs are most important, I'll let whoever manage this team if they can take it to the playoffs. We want a better manager so we make it to the playoffs, which clearly this leadership structure is incapable of doing. But if these idiots got us to the WS, then why do I care what they do?

But yes, it is nice that at least we know Mac and probably Bavasi will be gone.

on the good news front
they hit every ball at SS or 2nd.  Do that tomorrow and you may score a few runs.
I woke up
First thing on my TV is the Mariner box score on the ESPN ticker.  Baseball Grim Reaper saved me the trouble of disappointment.
Over at the Yankee blog Pinstripe Alley
they are actually worried about losing today and only having a 2 game edge on the Mariners....

Meanwhile, a Detroit win leaves us tied with them, and Toronto is what, 5 and a half back???   It's been a fun ride, but I think it might be over....

I have more hope for my BMO team than the M's
Just to screw with us a little longer
The M's will now take 2 of 3 against the Yanks.
thqt would be
fun to watch!
and then go into Detroit
and sweep the Tigers...then come home and lose 2 of 3 to Oakland, and 3 of 4 to the Devil Rays, who right now look like world-beaters.  Where was this team in June???

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