I wish we could all just stop talking about this and move on. But we can't. And neither can Ken Rosenthal.
The reasons for Angelos' hesitation are unclear. However, Angelos' first choice is to sign Bedard to a contract extension, according to one source. The owner was under the impression that Bedard was unwilling to consider such a deal, the source says, but recently learned that the pitcher would entertain an offer if the Orioles were willing to extend him at least five years.
We've been talking about Erik Bedard since the beginning of December.
This is so stupid.
0 recs | 180 comments
Just fucking be over
One way or another, so I can either be really angry or really relieved ONCE and then move on with my life.I can't deal with having another night last the last one.
Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
You should seek help.
Phil Hatzenbuehler - January 28, 2008
Yesterday I had the sobering realisation
That the rest of my life merely serves to fill in the gaps between times I'm thinking about baseball.Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
I dont know what to think anymore
I really want to be done with this. These two days have fried my brain.PShwa - January 28, 2008
I hate Angelos
This isn't fair to the Mariners. If this deal is going to be done we need adequate time to find a right fielder. If I were Bavasi I'd tell the O's they have 24 hours and then they can go fuck themselves.This is how you make enemies.
Corco - January 28, 2008
Who looks more terrifying?
Jeff Sullivan - January 28, 2008
At least Glass looks humanoid
Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
It has to be Creepy Old Guy #1
He looks like a seal lying on its back.Aaron @ Lookout Landing - January 28, 2008
that thing on the left
looks like a melting wax figurewadswerth - January 28, 2008
/Jabba the Hutt
Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
Shouldn't rich people be able
to afford whiter dentures?Phil Hatzenbuehler - January 28, 2008
I doubt he cares.
He's obviously not getting by on his looks.Aaron @ Lookout Landing - January 28, 2008
Bring me Solo and the Wookiee.
Shawk - January 28, 2008
Et tu taku bu Jabb now
Fett42 - January 28, 2008
this should be a new web site
like the exact opposite of the "kitten wars" website. Scary old men wars.com or somethingmark s @ Lookout Landing - January 28, 2008
Just give us the damn player(s).
Wussie O's.IcebreakerX - January 28, 2008
I for one fear what happens after this is all over
If we get Bedard, each time he wins we will get swamped with comments on how we were all wrong.If AJ stays, each time he fails to get a clutch RBI we will be told how yet another prospect is failing.
I fear something ugly has only yet begun and it dims my joy for pitchers and catchers reporting.
Sec 108 - January 28, 2008
If I've learned anything living close to Anaheim
it's that you should never let stupid people ruin something you enjoy.Jeff Sullivan - January 28, 2008
Stupid people are amusing
Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
You're right, Graham!
You are amusing!Coach Owens - January 28, 2008
Dude...
Phil Hatzenbuehler - January 28, 2008
Just a joke.
I'm sorry.Coach Owens - January 28, 2008
:P
Good try. Have a beer for me.Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
They're so cute when they're young
and then they grow up to be broken, jaded cynics who only find joy in the shortcomings of others.Or is that just me?
pdb - January 28, 2008
Good advice and I do try to live that way
But to quote a line from Harvey Danger."All around the world I see that only stupid people are breeding. The cretins cloning and feeding."
Sec 108 - January 28, 2008
I've got two trip to anaheim
planned in marchand i COULD NOT BE MORE EXCITED!!!!
the scary thing, im actually serious
seattlebruin - January 28, 2008
Really? Excited to go to Anaheim?
You didn't drink the Kool-Aid, did you?ningwers - January 28, 2008
=) yup
mmmmm kool-aid!bruins in anaheim (probably) for rounds 1 & 2, and then im going to Ms at angels for the first series down there
seattlebruin - January 28, 2008
Those are both acceptable reasons
Maybe you can talk Jeff into driving up for that series in March (you lucky bastards... I miss LA)ningwers - January 28, 2008
On the other hand
If we get Bedard, then every time Jones hits a HR or earns a webgem, or when we don't reach the playoffs, we can think about how wrong DOV is about baseball.Oh wait.
Katal LM - January 28, 2008
Fuck Baltimore.
For disturbing my sleeping pattern by not closing this deal out.EnglishMariner - January 28, 2008
It really is stupid.
I blame the Mariners for making us all gun shy with the lame moves they've made the last several years. Whatever happens, I won't have any confidence in them until the entire front office is gone or they win the World Series (in spite of themselves), whichever happens first. Meanwhile, I need to think about something---anything---else....Alex Johnson - January 28, 2008
HUR. RY. UP.
ThundaPC - January 28, 2008
CLAP! CLAP!
CLAP CLAP CLAP!tootthekazoo - January 28, 2008
Reminds me of that stupid song.
"Everybody clap your hands! Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap."The Yankees made it famous and now every sports arena uses it. I hate the Yankees and people who follow after them.
Wilder83 - January 28, 2008
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaayo
Mariner John - January 28, 2008
Dong dong dong dong,
...dong dong dong dong!(That's the stupid-ass Yankee "clock striking the hour" song played after homeruns.)
zknower - January 28, 2008
Hey now.
This isn't a porn site.Phil Hatzenbuehler - January 29, 2008
Did someone say Wang?
jtopps - January 29, 2008
It's pronounced Thomson.
pdb - January 29, 2008
I think you mean Thompson
BrettJMiller - January 30, 2008
Relax guys.
Either we get an Ace in Bedard but we sadly lose Jones and GS52 or we don't get Bedard and keep them. No matter what, it's just a game and not necessarily something to cry or throw a temper tantrum over.Coach Owens - January 28, 2008
JOS
Jeff Sullivan - January 28, 2008
Ummm. What?
Coach Owens - January 28, 2008
shorthand
John Olerud Suckswadswerth - January 28, 2008
Once you hit puberty, you'll understand
Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
When I watched Chris Pronger hoist the Cup
from the upper deck, I bawled my eyes out like a little bitch.Jeff Sullivan - January 28, 2008
I'm very glad I wasn't anywhere near Anaheim
for that.Ugh.
Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
It sucked. It truly truly sucked.
Jeff, why the fuck did we stick around long enough to watch Pronger raise the Cup again?ningwers - January 28, 2008
It was the Cup.
We had to.It absolutely sucked, but we had to.
Jeff Sullivan - January 28, 2008
I know the feeling
when I traveled half way around the world to watch Arsenal win the first FA Cup final in Cardiff, nobody told Michael Goddamn Owen that I was there and his two goals won the Cup for Liverpool. I stayed for the whole medal ceremony, because who knows if I'm ever going to see that in person again?So yeah, it sucked, but you did the right thing.
pdb - January 28, 2008
You were at that game?
Wow ... that was such a fucking awesome game. Well, unless you were an Arsenal fan.EnglishMariner - January 28, 2008
Yup, I was
and, six years later, I have to admit that yeah, it was awesome. But sitting ten rows up from where Thierry Henry missed two sitters in about 5 seconds, it didn't seem so at the time.Still, probably the greatest sporting day out I've ever had. Unforgettable all the way around.
pdb - January 28, 2008
Life hasn't been fair to us
Jeff Sullivan - January 28, 2008
I know :(
I'm still impressed that you restricted your rage to the free towels (even if that bitch in front of us for Game 1 deserved to eat a fist sandwich).ningwers - January 28, 2008
I still have one of those torn towels
it's part of my Sens altar.Jeff Sullivan - January 28, 2008
I think I hit puberty.
But I still don't know what the hell you guys are talking about. Humor me?The Alaskan - January 28, 2008
The Coach Owens saga is a long one
It all started when a small child named Will got banished from USS Mariner into the booze-fueled wasteland of Lookout Landing.I'll let someone else continue the tale (not you, Coach).
Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
Ya know
I think our no tolerance attitude has made him a better person. If somebody joined now, they'd wonder why we keep giving him so much crap.Edgar for Pres - January 28, 2008
And to Will's credit
He's gotten much betterningwers - January 28, 2008
+1
I think he's even less annoying then I am now. Good for him.Corco - January 28, 2008
ah USS Mariner
How I miss those daysCorco - January 28, 2008
USSM has evil, power-hungry moderators
You don't want to go near it!Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
It'll be a year
here in a couple months since I was last allowed to comment. I miss those days.You are an evil power-hungry moderator, are you not?
Corco - January 28, 2008
Yep
Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
So I guess I'm curious
You guys have some strange wordpress plugin that allows me to register and login BUT NO COMMENT BOX SHOWS UP. It's crazyCorco - January 28, 2008
I think that's called being banned
But it's not really my place to comment on things like this, so I shan'tGraham MacAree - January 28, 2008
roger that
Corco - January 28, 2008
I miss watching you
summarize traffic in Bumfuck, ID and tell DMZ which roads he should have driven in Phoenix...eponymous coward - January 28, 2008
Me too
But I guess they wanted to go in a more intelligent direction.I think I pretty much pissed off DMZ though when he's talking about how he missed the feed and all I could ask is what he was doing on the Piestewa Freeway. I maintain that that route made little sense from where he was coming from, but I do feel bad about the timing of the remarks
Corco - January 28, 2008
I have never been a fan of ussm
Just never really liked it there, i like the atmoshpere of this place quite a bit more.wadswerth - January 28, 2008
I just enjoyed pushing Derek's buttons and
watching others push Derek's buttons.Once Dave started taking more control over commenting/moderation I began to dislike it because thread discussion got way too boring.
I don't even mind on-topic conversation, but it just seems like everything is so boxed in now the only way your comment can get approved is by cleverly summarizing the point of the post.
I understand that they are huge and this is probably necessary, but I'd rather they just turn comments off at this point.
Corco - January 28, 2008
kthx
EnglishMariner - January 28, 2008
Incidentally, this is total bullshit
I approve a tonne of comments a day that I violently disagree with, because otherwise what the hell is the point?And I know the rest of us do too.
Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
I check USSM
everyday because their writers are good/great. I don't check more than daily (or every few days) cause I don't really give a rat's ass about the comments. (I often just search through the comments for stuff by Dave or DMZ)I don't want to offend Jeff but if he was the only reason I came here then I'd only check it once a day probably. I think the comments/community is far superior. Graham and everybody else, keep being assholes to people that annoy us. Hopefully that will be enough to keep out the PI hordes pounding at the gates.
Edgar for Pres - January 28, 2008
I love it
My penchant for being a total dick when people annoy me has turned me into some sort of blogo-gatekeeper.Graham MacAree - January 28, 2008
I agree.
I still check USSM everyday to see whats up, the writing is great as is the analysis.I came here once I saw how great the community is, and that means MUCH more to me. The community makes the place what it is. The writing here is amazing, and the way everything is so playful(too non-hetero?) here is great.
It's like sitting at a bar with friends.
PShwa - January 28, 2008
I only check out
ussm when someone from here says theres a good article there to check out. yesterday was the first time i went there since an article about clements batspeedwadswerth - January 28, 2008
They're analysis is great.
But few people respond to your comment unless it's dead wrong, so there is often no point in commenting. Also, I wrote this long, long response to a post about Felix's struggles and Dave yelled at me :(.CapSea - January 28, 2008
He yelled at me
When I made a mistake in regards to Mark Lowe's injury.He comes off a little arrogant now that USSM has gotten bigger. Great analysis but no personality.
DMZ was nice to me, though.
I love this site infinitely more. Unless Jeffrey gets too big headed for us. Hopefully by using 'Jeffrey', any arrogance he gains is shot.
Slica - January 28, 2008
10 to 1 on "not."
CapSea - January 29, 2008
I hate the name "Jeffrey"
note to self: ban Slicanote to self: justify banning by pointing out Sabres fanitude
Jeff Sullivan - January 29, 2008
Thats a shame
because with all of my teams sucking this year, I was planning on rooting for Ottawa or Vancouver in the playoffs.Detroit it is.
Slica - January 29, 2008
What About Jeffy?
It could be like the Family Circus, with Coach Owens playing the part of "Not Me."JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo - January 29, 2008
That'd be awesome
because we'd get at least one article a week mapping out Jeff's roundabout routes to work and the wacky adventures he had on his way.pdb - January 29, 2008
(quickly hides Sabres gear)
jtopps - January 29, 2008
That's okay.
Now that I know it's an inside joke, and I'm not missing something every godfearing American should know, we can just move on. This thread is rapidly devolving into random reminiscing, anyway.Thanks for trying.
The Alaskan - January 28, 2008
Could this be a ploy to pressure the Orioles
by Bavasi? Leaking this kind of information makes the Orioles look bad. If they don't pull the trigger now, other teams will be hesitant to try dealing with them in the future... not that Angelos hasn't already done that already.Wilder83 - January 28, 2008
Did I say already, already?
Wilder83 - January 28, 2008
You forget
No one wants to deal with them anyway, because they suck.EnglishMariner - January 28, 2008
I'm really getting tired of this.
Angelos needs to stop being a pussyfooting pantywaist, and needs to grow a pair and make a decision.God, why not just name yourself the fucking GM if you care so much?
JLC - January 28, 2008
i care abotut the Ms a lot
can i name myself their GM?seattlebruin - January 29, 2008
i fail at spelling
seattlebruin - January 29, 2008
So I'm guessing everyone's seen this
but apparently Jones is still in Venezuela, sitting tight (via Roto). This is just hilarious.Why is Angelos such a delicate little tulip? So what if it fucking leaked. I mean, everyone's been talking about this for months. Its not fucking news to anyone who gives two tugs of a dead dog's dick about baseball. Who is he trying to surprise here? What a horse's ass.
Bearskin Rugburn - January 28, 2008
"two tugs of a dead dogs dick"
well, that was new.PShwa - January 28, 2008
actually, no
I plagiarized it from transmetropolitan. Its full of gems like that one.Bearskin Rugburn - January 28, 2008
Hmmm...
Angelos ~= Argyros...PositivePaul - January 28, 2008
I just saw Bavasi at the supermarket
and realized after I left I should've had a cashier page Adam Jones to the front of the store.Eyebrows - January 28, 2008
That would make my day
er, week. Year.Bearskin Rugburn - January 28, 2008
McPhail
has to feel like a freaking tool over all of this. It's clear he had the deal he wanted and felt like Angelos would go for it too, and now he's being made a fool...OlyOle - January 28, 2008
I feel bad for him
It would be horrible to be Baltimore's General Manager.Corco - January 28, 2008
The O's are such a fucking clownshoes organization
As a DC native I've been watching the O's FO for years now. This is par for the course for Angelos. It's a beautiful thing now that I'm a Nats fan.esoteric - January 28, 2008
Not like this is the first time.
Angelos has pulled this stunt before. If I were the MacPhail I'd be wondering why I even bother.TheOptimist - January 29, 2008
Do these guys work two hours a day?
How could this not be over yet?BaltimoreMarinersFan - January 29, 2008
One thing I've learned
while working for corporate america is that suits at all levels of hierarchy like to talk. A lot. About what they want to do. But they don't like to do anything. They just want to talk about it. They want to 'get it right' but really, they hold meetings and talk about their jobs because they're not especially good at anything else.And every now and then, they get around to doing something, and then they talk for hours and days afterward patting themselves on the back for doing it.
This is how it goes.
Gomez - January 29, 2008
Don't forget the planning
It goes from talking about what they want to do, to planning how they do it. Which results in lots of pretty Microsoft Project charts and Visio flowcharts, but again, no actual work.Then there's lunch. Sandwiches, usually.
Then, there's status meetings. About how much planning has been done, and how much planning is yet to be done.
Repeat, ad infinitum, until your brain dies.
pdb - January 29, 2008
hey hey
Pretty Powerpoint Presentations and (fuck there are no synonyms for "pretty" that start with a V) Visio flowcharts are real work!!seattlebruin - January 29, 2008
That'd be "vibrant Visio flowcharts"
and, as someone who produces copious amounts of both, I can say no, they're really not. PowerPoint has done more to ruin the American workplace than any single technological tool I can think of - it's taught an entire generation of workers to look for nothing more than three bullet-pointed ways to solve increasingly complex problems, and it cuts off any serious analysis, because, to the average executive, hey the answer's right there in the bullet point, right?Visio has its place, definitely, but PowerPoint should be banned from every workplace.
pdb - January 29, 2008
EXCELLENT
vibrant.... how did i miss that one!?!?!yes, powerpoint has caused some serious laziness among execs, but it also has its strong points as well. honestly, i can't imagine trying to summarize a report w/o it (although to be fair, im young enough that i've had powerpoint as a tool for my entire report making life)
and visio rocks. when i get bored, i spend my time creating awesome flowcharts for no reason at all.
seattlebruin - January 29, 2008
I guess, as a project/program manager,
I'm just tired of seeing a lot of hard, complex analysis work by a lot of the teams I've led be completely reduced to three little executive summary points, and subsequently misunderstood or dismissed as "this looks simple", so that some clueless suit can approve a budget for what we're doing that's either 25% too short timewise or too small dollar-wise, without ever fully understanding it.pdb - January 29, 2008
I agree
Powerpoint has compelled not just executives, but instructors and students to cram their data into vague bulletpoints so they can show slides that, usually, say little to nothing and add nothing to their presentation.It's affected the academic world too, as a lot of instructors use Powerpoint with their lectures.
Gomez - January 29, 2008
actually,
i found the most helpful lectures were the ones that included powerpoint slides.of course it didnt take the place of good old fashioned note taking, but as an engineer, i found it really helpful when professors could put quickly summarize equations and ideas in visual form without having to laboriously write them on the board. to be honest, i actually felt like the slides were more work for the instructors, because they ofter were transposing their notes into digital form to make it easier for us lowly undergrads to understand
i think its not so much the tool itself as the laziness it encourages when a guy simply reads his bullet points off a slide rather than goes into detail about the ideas being presented
seattlebruin - January 29, 2008
That's true
the laziness is a huge part of my problem with PowerPoint. And NASA had the same problem, apparently.pdb - January 29, 2008
yikes
the scary thing is, that whole point makes perfect sense.still, i would argue that the problem lies with the people making the presentations rather than the tool itself
seattlebruin - January 29, 2008
PowerPoint should be banned.
Keynote is 100x better.Wilder83 - January 29, 2008
That's why...
...they're corporate suits and not business owners (making the real money)(and taking the real risks).rtang - January 29, 2008
The scary thing is
you talk to most corporate suits and they're convinced they're the ones taking the risks. Which is laughable.pdb - January 29, 2008
Hrm.
We're talking Armstrong and Lincoln, right?rtang - January 29, 2008
Nope, just my bosses
and not just the current ones. I'm having a very anti-Corporate America day today.pdb - January 29, 2008
They should have
a major holiday thats anti-corp daywadswerth - January 29, 2008
They do.
It's called Labor Day...PositivePaul - January 29, 2008
well if your
trying to get technical and all... then maybe the name should change to something elsewadswerth - January 29, 2008
No-labor day.
AKA Executive day.CapSea - January 29, 2008
Adam Jones has hip spasms
JLC - January 29, 2008
If Adam Jones' hip spasms
result in Brent Lillibridge staying put, this entire exercise was a waste of time. ARE YOU LISTENING ANGELOS? LILLIBRIDGE'S FUTURE IS AT STAKE HERE!pdb - January 30, 2008
Did Angelos want the M's to throw in a kidney, too
Shawk - January 29, 2008
First-born, actually.
Two kidneys in that.JY - January 29, 2008
Are you offering?
Angelos needs it for the replacement body he's building, to replace this one when it finally melts into a pile of goo. As the picture above shows, the process is moving at an alarming rate.The Alaskan - January 29, 2008
This needs to end
or I'm going to commit something.PShwa - January 29, 2008
Like a B and E
ya know, breaking and enteringkentroyals5 - January 29, 2008
That was either
A) Talking about Dane Cook because you hate himor
B) Talking to ME about him because I DONT hate him.
either way.
...yes, a B and E.
PShwa - January 29, 2008
Just in general
I saw the diary but was too lazy to read all the comments.kentroyals5 - January 29, 2008
this is
bedardedAstrobiology - January 29, 2008
n/s
FirstCapSea - January 30, 2008
Sorta...
Now THIS is bedarded...PositivePaul - January 30, 2008
That is the coolest thing ever
I laughed for about 10 minutes when I saw thatCorco - January 30, 2008
No kidding.
I'm still laughing, myself...PositivePaul - January 30, 2008
Can't we just substitute Morrow for Jones?
If the Orioles are worried about Jones' health, why not just switch? They'll still be getting a better deal than the Twins did.Rollo Tomasi - January 30, 2008
orioles want a CF
This sucks. I obviously want Adam Jones, but Sunday saw me engaging the rationalization process and now I really really want Erik Bedard too. But now I'm also really scared Bavasi is going to crack and offer up Clement or Triunfel in order to close the deal while still including the "damaged" Jones.Dammit Angelos, this is all your fault.
Matthew - January 30, 2008
Last LL Post for 2 years
i hope we keep Jones, or get Bedard. I'll be back in 2 friends!marinerschas2 - January 30, 2008
Take care!
ningwers - January 30, 2008
need.... more...
bedard rumors...Its so cold....
seriously, this shit has me compulsively checking roto every 10 minutes. I've gotten nothing done at work. I hate everyone. Can we just make Jones into a star pitcher and have it be over? Fuuuck.
Bearskin Rugburn - January 30, 2008
I heard that Erik Bedard has a bad knee
pdb - January 30, 2008
i heard that erik bedard is left handed
seattlebruin - January 30, 2008
don't be a rightist
pdb - January 30, 2008
im sorry
im a rightist, and im not going to apologize for it.seattlebruin - January 30, 2008
I heard he'll be flipped to ATL for Linnbridge
...wait, I'm doing it wrong.ThundaPC - January 30, 2008
Damn right you are
It's Lillibridge.pdb - January 30, 2008
its pronounced
HoBearskin Rugburn - January 30, 2008
Well, heres something
"We've been startled by enough false alarms when it comes to trades, but people I've spoken with over the last 24 hours sound more encouraged about Erik Bedard going to the Mariners. I still believe it's going to happen."-Roch Kabutkokokickalicky, Baltimore Sun
Slica - January 30, 2008
Hey!
I havent been banned for reminding Jeff he was named after the Toys R Us Giraffe.Sweet fancy moses. :)
Slica - January 30, 2008
That's Geoffrey, stupid
Jeff Sullivan - January 30, 2008
Denial.
I wish something would happen already.We've been sunk to conversations about a Toys R Us giraffe.
I now hate January as much as December.
Slica - January 30, 2008
Good thing that hasn't been said
infinity billion times. Oh, wait...Rollo Tomasi - January 30, 2008
Its gotten sad hasnt it?
Like the closing of Woolworth's.Slica - January 30, 2008
LL's new logo
Matthew - January 30, 2008
Is that the Doomsday clock?
jtopps - January 30, 2008
indeed
Matthew - January 30, 2008
I like it
Jeff Sullivan - January 30, 2008
Doomsday clock: incredibly stupid
and tendentious.LL: NOT incredibly stupid. Tendentious? Yeah, maybe. But not stupid.
marc w - January 30, 2008
I wasn't going to change it
I just like the idea. But Richie is perfect.Jeff Sullivan - January 30, 2008
Things are about to get a bit toasty
Robert - January 30, 2008
Hmmm
Didnt the ancient Mayans say we were all going to die around December 21, 2012?Slica - January 30, 2008
That sounds like The Day of the Triunfel Trade
To meGraham MacAree - January 30, 2008
Actually
it's the date that the Bedard deal is scheduled to complete.By the way, did you hear that Bedard's got elbow problems?
pdb - January 30, 2008
Keep it under your hat
but I just heard from my source that Bavasi's agreed to trade Jones and Tui to the Seahawks for Shaun Alexander.Matthew - January 30, 2008
HOLY CRAP THAT'S BIG
Does Rotoworld know yet? Man, that's a HUGE trade, especially because MY source heard that the M's will then flip Shaun Alexander to the Lakers for the disgruntled Kobe Bryant.I'm heading over to Rotoworld RIGHT NOW.
pdb - January 30, 2008
how the hell are
we gonna get kobe for shaun alexander?? thats NEVER going to work under the salary capseattlebruin - January 30, 2008
Maybe we could pry away Andrew Bynum
He could be dangerous playing 1st base......because hes tall.
Slica - January 30, 2008
They'll just pay the luxury tax
and next year they'll make Willie Bloomquist their franchise player, so that'll help with the budget for 09 and beyond.pdb - January 30, 2008
oh ok
just wanted to clear that upbut if willie's the franchise player, doesn't that mean he gets the average of the five best paid players at his position?
how much does an elite gritty white guy who OPSs .660 and doesnt field particularly well make?
seattlebruin - January 30, 2008
He's so gritty he doesn't need money
he just goes places and they give him stuff because they respect his grit.pdb - January 30, 2008
I heard Willie was leaving to play for the new
baseketball team in Seattle that's going to play in the Key after the Sonics finally leave.Matthew - January 30, 2008
the storm?
seattlebruin - January 30, 2008
no, baseketball kicks ass
it's the opposite of what the storm play.Matthew - January 30, 2008
oh no
the storm play basketballjust at the level of "we're professional athletes, but if we played beach right now, we'd probably lose by 30."
seattlebruin - January 30, 2008
baseketball was a lame movie
pdb - January 30, 2008
I heard Bedard got hurt when he was
helping Adam Jones avoid falling after Jones' degenerative hip caused him to slip while boarding a plane for a physical not located in Baltimore.Jed MC - January 30, 2008
All that clock does
is make me think of the Smashing Pumpkins.Katal LM - January 30, 2008
Hopefully you'll remember them
circa 1993 (Siamese Dream) instead of their current form. Ew.Phil Hatzenbuehler - January 30, 2008
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