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10/10: Open ALCS Game 1 Thread


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - James Shields 14-8 33 33 3 2 0 0 215.0 208 94 85 24 40 160 3.56 1.15


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Daisuke Matsuzaka 18-3 29 29 0 0 0 0 167.2 128 58 54 12 94 154 2.90 1.32

I can't believe this is actually happening.

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My Matsuzaka prediction:

5 IP, 3 K’s, 6 BB’s

and a win, probably.

Why do you hate baseball?
I find humor in pain.
Looking good so far!
Those 3 K's are going to be difficult.
The Rays strike out a lot.
And there's a shitty call to pad your stats.

;)

I'll take it!
Halfway there.
I would have put more walks, but I figured he'd be out of the game before he could get more than 6.
Kudos to TBS for letting us see the intros. I love this stuff.
They moved Crawford to fifth in the order?

Good for them, but I thought that was pretty much a nonstarter.

ATTN FOR THE MOST RANDOM QUESTION EVER ASKED ON LL:

Does anyone here happen to own the “Archives #2” boxed set by the band Genesis?

Yes, I know, it’s a ridiculously random question, but I’m suddenly a bit desperate here. Very sorry. And if one of you morons actually happens to have it, I might be the happiest kid on the planet.

Damn, I didn't think anyone would.

I’m a sad panda. I lost disc 2 of the set when I need it the most.

My dad does.
I was hoping someone could post a link to a couple missing tracks I need from the second disc.

I lost my copy, I need those songs posthaste, and I dunno where to find them online. Can’t even buy them as downloads from Amazon. Oh well.

Haha suck it Dodgers!

LET’S GO RAYS!

RAYSRAYSRAYSRAYSRAYSRAYSRAYSRAYS

GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO

RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A/S/L check (not really)

What’s everybody drinking right now?

Veltins

Wow, when was the last time I had a German beer, I wonder.

It was probably a Bitburger in the Spring and I was slightly disappointed after having it recommended to me.

Bitburger is not very good

Veltins is neither that good, but I lack alternatives right now

Diet Code Red

You live in Utah.

You don’t count.

Oh yeah

I guess this subthread means schuxu and I are winning.
Special edition Maker's!

Maybe I will mix a coffee in between

It was a long day and it is a 2:40 already

coincidentally enough, out of this exact glass too

I just broke my 1997 20th Anniversary Mariners mug in the dishwasher.

It’s out of the bottle for me. I’m too depressed to drink it out of a regular pint glass.

just a nice mug of tea

Water.

It’s safest.

Yikes!

have we seen the lavender jacket before?

Anyone else waiting for...

Craig Sager to ask “Why so serious???”

ahahaha

Sit the fuck down

Rays Rays Rays
I mean

I want the Rays to win but there fans just dont deserve it…

Sometimes, it's not about the fans.

The Rays players deserve it and the great FO that has tried to accommodate their fan base deserve it.

I see empty seats.

HOW DO YOU HAVE EMPTY SEATS IN YOUR TEAMS FIRST TRY FOR A PENNANT?

They could always blame the economy
The fans who do show up deserve it.

Who cares about the number?

And we deserve it.

And the nation deserves a Boston loss.

Yeah, the whole sport really deserves it.

As does Fox, in the opposite sense.

Oh damn.

You just referred to Red Sox fans as “the nation.” This is easily to worst thing to ever from the 2004 World Series.

Steve Berthiume always refers to them as “THE nation” and it drives me insane.

I don't think that's what he meant.
Oh.....

I am now just realizing this.

At least I got that off my chest.

LL is therapy.

I meant Amerika
Am I being curmudgeoney if I say that I think noisemakers shouldn't be handed out?

If a few people sneak in a cowbell, that’s awesome and adds personality. But if everyone is given a cowbell at the door, it seems gimmicky and quite obnoxious.

Same goes for the Angels fans’ clapping things.

Yeah, I'm already tired of it.
I consider this ALCS yet another personalized fuck you from the sports gods
Youk at 3rd again?
I believe Lowell is out for the series.
My least favorite part of this game is the part where Pedroia got on base.

Because he needs to take a big step back and literally fuck his own face.

"I believe it's the best overall defense in the AL"

What?

Guess who is actually watching the game?
154/98 K/BB ratio.

Awesome.

Worth every penny.
Makes me shudder.
But what about momentum, Tito?

Game 1 is always most important.

"He won't give up many hits."

That tends to happen when you walk a guy 13% of the guys you face.

This doesn't seem like a good idea:

Broken link.
Really? Shows up for me. I'll try the one from the official site

Oh shit!

BIGGER

My girlfriend ordered me one...

as a jinx. She’s a die hard Red Sox fan.

so, did Matsuzaka get his 18 wins pitching like this?
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
Kenji has back spasms
He usually settles down by the 8th.
This thread is rad.
Matsuzaka actually pitched better than Felix this year (by a reasonable margin)
But does he have a grand slam against Johan Santana?
But did he hit a grand slam?
You're LATE!

According to my thread.

Yeah you're right.
Yes!

Two confirmations!

Weird because I see I was first

Shoot…

Your thread usually does.
Well in that case, Wilder I'm sorry
I bet he never forgives you ever
As punishment I am revoking my ability to ever post "Late" posts ever again
Yeah right.

(I just wanted to use this)

I so incredibly hate you for being right.

Though isn’t the HR/BIA way unsustainable?

tRA* has him at 4.76
which is worse than Felix
Can I get a quick refresher on what the asterisk means?

I’m looking around and can’t find a quick answer.

Fully regressed tRA

It’s not up on the site yet

And .258 BABIP with a 20% LD rate?
He gets penalised for the LD rate
Oh that's right.
I would just like to point something out:

Kazmir-Shields-Garza-Price-Sonnanstine. For years and years to come.

Can't compare with Carlos Silva
I don't understand why you'd ever give a long-term contract to anyone who hasn't played at least five years in the majors.
I agree,

Tampa got hosed on the Longoria deal.

7 mil a year was too much
weigh as much as Carlos Silva?
Hellickson, Davis, Mcgee, Barnese, Lobstein, Niemman....
How much longer until we can hate the rays because they are so good?
I'm fully prepared to hate the Rays for not being able to beat the damn Red Sox
Stop being so damn cynical.
Arguably the best trade?

Arguably?

Kazmir-Zambrano was the most lopsided deal of recent memory.

Bedard -Jones,Tillman, Sherrill,Butler, Mickolio
Pierzynski for Nathan/Liriano/Bonser was worse IMO
The Chris Young/Adrian Gonzalez for Eaton/Otsuka trade was pretty awful, too.
The Rangers could of had a rotation of Young-Danks-Volquez right now.
I don't blame them for the Hamilton trade.
Neither do I.

I’m just saying.

Don't forget about Robinson Tejeda! :p
Don't forget Aramando Galarraga...

…who was left off the 40, picked up by Detroit, and gave the Tigers the following this season:

13-7 record with a 1.19 WHIP and 90 tRA+.

Galarraga was not good this year.
He was better than...

…a decent number of the guys the Rangers had to call up to replace their already below average hurt starters.

Fair enough.
Was that trade glaringly stupid at the time?
Everyone thought it was hilarious even before Liriano became a stud.
I've tried ostrich before.

It’s actually pretty good.

JAP is down and TOR has turned into a piece of shit since I used it last

any ideas?

Where have you been?
I like that song.
Wait, the M's originally signed Ortiz?
....And traded him for Damon Hollins to the twins?

God your FO sucks.

Dave Hollins*
Why are you talking to no one in our thread?
My memories of Dave Hollins were awesome.

Whatever. He couldn’t do anything but hit and he wasn’t exactly real young for the league he was in.

Ortiz, that is.
What does that make the Twins?
They released him, and trade Garza for Delmon, so...

Awful.

Well this game has been boring.
Wait, Dice-K is throwing a no-hitter?
Yeah, he's just walked a trillion people.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jed Lowrie is not "a good RBI guy." He's a mediocre hitter on a team with a ton of baserunners.
Walk + accidental double + fly ball to right = manufacturing a run.
That was pretty at least.
The hell? Ellsbury has a long sleeve on one arm and nothing on the other.
And his eyebrows look waxed.
CALL HIM OFF THAT!

Jesus.

Oh my god, enough with the retarded cowbells already.
I liked the cowbells when they were a rogue thing.
A small group of people doing the cowbell is unique and cool.

A stadium full of people doing the cowbell is a more annoying version of the Angel fans and Thudersticks.

Finally a good game
"You don't fluke your way into 18 wins."

……………….

I have a counter example!

Dicesuke Matsuzaka

Holy crap a no hitter?
C'mon Rays do better...
Home runs are for fags!
IT'S ORTIZ! WITH A GODDAMN Z! IT IS NOT ORTIES! Z MOTHERFUCKER!! ZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!

Jesus Christ!

Looked ready to me.
David Forst (A's) was given permission to interview for the M's GM job

But apparently, he decided not to interview.

D’oh.

Back to the game…

Probably a smart move.
I didn't have much hope he'd leave the A's anyway.
He probably has more power right now than he would as GM of the M's.
WE REQUESTED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY SMART

THE CEILING!

It's not even close to being sold out?

Mariners fans aren’t really that bad, huh?

Upper seats aren't available for tix.
Why?
Obstructed view, they'd be available for a theoretical WS.
You think if people wanted to buy them they would sell them, just like at the Kingdome.
I have a feeling they weren't in high demand.
They were.
This conversation isn't making any sense to me.
Then why not sell them?

The Kingdome had seats where you couldn’t see center of right field, but they sold out like mad anyway.

I got obstructed-view tickets to a Sonics playoff game when I was in high school and couldn't have been happier.

Just lean forward a little bit!

The Rays, who have had attendance problems all season, refused to sell tickets to fans who wanted them?

I’m not saying I don’t believe you, but that’s insane.

The MLB is making them sell them in a WS.
As they should.
You think they'd at least cover up the empty seats for tv.
Put a tarp on them and pretend they don't exist like the A's do.
I remember the Kingdome doing this.
Marlins, too, I believe.

Cracks me up. Like people are going to see them and think “Cool, look at that huge logo they installed!”

What? Some seats aren't available?
I say we play the rest of this series at Fenway.
Hey, Blue, can I get a new ball? I keep throwing this one three feet away from the plate.
This no-hitter is completely unacceptable.

Especially because Shields has been so awesome.

No-hitter is still intact.

Bother.

Lord help us if Dice-K throws a no-hitter.
As if Red Sox fans weren't insufferable enough as is.
So... I've been wanting to ask this for a long time.

What the hell is painted on the CF turf?

A star. It's dumb.
Why is Jed always up with two on?

Strike out Jedie.

Because he's a good RBI guy.
You ma'am are a psychic
He's like a cross between Ellsbury and Pedroia.
He's a douche flavored taco?
Ok it's official, cowbells are worse than Thudersticks.
I swear this isn't hyperbole:

Buck Martinez is the worst baseball commentator alive. I honestly think he’s worse than Joe Morgan or Hawk or Hudler or anyone else you want to throw out there.

Maybe it’s because I seldom hear him, but it’s just a constant, painful fountain of dumbfuck.

What is that mascot?
Not meant to be a reply.

Reverse fail.

I'll answer it anyway:

The Buck Martinez mascot is a brain being hit repeatedly with a hammer. And it talks like Bud Selig.

Where is the Raymond gif?
This is still not answering what the heck he is.
A mascot
I appreciate your helpfulness with my confusion. This is why I don't watch.

I get fascinated by odd things.

What is the Phillie Fanatic suppose to be?
A fan.
It's rhetorical question
Well at least you knew its name
A Fanatic.

Duh.

well ....

the Rays website describes as ‘a fun loving fuzz ball’ and claim he is “a seadog”

I like the fuzz ball as I'm not even clear on what a seadog is
I believe it is a fish hot dog
Doesn't seem very fuzzy
If you drop it on the floor...
You must have yicky floors
using The Google

I see that a seadog is “an older sailor who takes an interest in and advises young sailors.”

ahem.

I'm glad google wasn't too far away for you.

But this seems to be a not wise idea for a mascot.

He's a furry blue muppet
He managed the Blue Jays once
wheeeeeeeeeee!
Way to buckle down, Jimmy Shields
Hey look, Mastuzaka, we can be lucky too!
If the Rays can't get a hit in this inning, I'm rooting for Dice-K.
I willm murder you.
I don't think it's ever acceptable to root for the Red Sox.

I mean, even when Jon Lester was throwing his no-hitter, I was rooting for the cancer.

I'm not rooting for the Red Sox, I'm rooting for the no-no.

It just happens to be thrown by a Red Sox pitcher.

The Rays could help this by actually getting a hit.

And there we go.
This guy is about a million times better then the person in Philadelphia
That's because he was actually singing.

Not just shouting words into the microphone.

Also not named Dorcus
American Idol runner up.

I wish he was discovered when he was 25, less dorky, and actually had the maturity to back up his voice.

when he was introduced

I was expecting the former Arizona State linebacker

Guess how many hits the Matsuzaka has given up

He has given up zero hits which means he is throwing a no-hitter

no-hitter no-hitter no-hitter no-hitter

Bout fucking time
YAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!
Oh good.

Now hit a home run.

Steal steal steal!
Aw dammit.

They couldn’t find a better DH than Cliff fucking Floyd?

Barry Bonds was the tonic that could have cured what ailed us.
I just reversed jinxed Floyd's crapiness.
Floyd has been a solid hitter this year.
I just have no faith when I see him at the plate.

I guess I don’t watch the Rays enough.

I share your pessimism.

I’m just happy to know it’s at least unfounded.

.268/.349/.455
wOBA of .363, too.
WHoooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoo
WOOOOOOOOOO RUNSRUNSRUNS
Wait, scratch that.
The Rays are a competent team.

I have faith in their ability to score the runner from third with nobody out.

Did you see us in July?
Matsuzaka will walk at least two more guys this inning, so no worries.
Yes, but I also see you playing in an ALCS after winning the AL East.

I have faith. It could all go pear-shaped, sure, but I have faith. I’m fucking Job here.

Or maybe G.O.B. “COME ON!”

Double 06 jinxed it.
How could he be in trouble? He was just throwing a no-hitter!!!
C'monc'monc'monc'mon
I may get into a fist fight with my Red Sox bandwagoning roommate.

This may be epic.

First shot to the kidneys.

That’ll slow him up for sure. Then you can start wailing on him.

Way to hit it nowhere that helped.
Dammit, Dioner.
What is Gross's walkup music? Sounded odd.
Cowbells
Speaking of which, "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey" would make great walk-up music.
Much better than cowbells.
It features cowbell prominently.
It's "Blessed be the Name of the Lord"
Wait, really?
Yeah. I'm dead serious.
You serious?
Stop swinging!
I can't believe Dice-K is still in there
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That was ball 4 idiot.
There were about seven balls thrown in that at-bat.
That looked crazy-like Jeff Clement
Son of a bitch.
Motherfucker.

If the Rays can’t plate this run, I’m afraid they lose.

Bartlett most indespensible player??
MVP of the team according to BBWAA.
"Jason Bartlett, they're most indispensable player."

He’s got a great glove and has been a key factor of the improved defense, but give me a fucking break.

I'm so angry I can't even spell their right.
Ring a bell?

That guy is dispensable. He's never even played in the playoffs before this year.
"Jason Barlett, their most indispensable player."
guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........
"Jason Barlett, in the 8th."
The Rays are made of Fail today.
So hey, fuck everything.
That's my schtick.
You haven't been around, so I stepped in.

STUNT COCK!

Somebody popped my balloon.
OUr entire bouquet of them
I denounce Matsuzaka as my countryman.
Just keep swinging hard at everything, Pedroia.

You will be out of baseball in five years.

You were far better than Matsuzaka, James. Be proud.
Very few will realize it.
"Now that Manny is gone, the Red Sox manufacture runs."

Paraphrasing.

I wonder what kind of machines they have to manufacture the runs?
White people.
Ground ball ground ball ground ball
when did Kevin Youklis become Youkon Cornelius?
He's "White Mike" McArdle
Or perhaps an extra from "American History X" or "Higher Learning"
Nice reference on the last name! I would have never known he had one.
It's my favorite season of the series.
Racist.
Heh. I just like the fact that it gives you a world that has NEVER been covered in-depth on television before (at least as far as I know).

Plus, Niko is one of my favorite characters in the entire series.

Nah, I'm with you.

It was a great idea, and a natural evolution of the show. White people have problems, too.

I thought Season 3 was the best overall. The Stringer-Avon stuff was incredible.

Gross did not redeem himself
WTF, Crawford?!
Yep, the Rays are gonna lose.

Time to go do something else.

Damn you Carl
That wasn't the disaster it could have been
Tough, tough play . . . but ARGH!
He makes that play all day everyday. Crap.
So the Rays will see Delcarmen in the 8th and Papelbon in the 9th?

Shit.

"Come on feel the noise"

You mean the artificially cowbell craptastic induced noise?

Way to shut 'em down, Grant.
WTF THIS IS CLOWNSHOES
I want Balfour to tag Pedroia next after seeing his dugout reaction.
I hope Pedroia chokes to death on a cock sandwhich

Fuck him

In your face!

WHOOOOOOO!!!!
"Still, after all the history."

The Rays have existed 10 years. I know there have been a few scuffles, but com’on, this is not some longtime rivalry.

get out of this get out get out get out
That is neat.
Balfour remains badder than Leroy Brown, meaner than a junkyard dog.
Dice-K is still pitching?
Walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk
Basehit basehit basehit basehit basehit basehit basehit basehit
AKIMURA IWANORA!
mura
It was intentional, dood. Notice I flipped 'em?
It's funny I caught the last name, but not the first.
Akinori Iwamura
Who needs to read the other comments in a subthread?

That obviously takes away the fun.

I can understand Dice-K starting this inning, but they have yank him and put in Papelbon now
DICE CAN HANDLE IT MAN

Let him dig himself out.

I have a rare good feeling here.
Defense wins championships?
Francona is pulling a Grady Little here.
Ironic, since that's how he got his job.
Does it count as a Grady if Okajima lets the runs score?
Okay, we can do it this time.

Yes, WE.

Wait, how did Upton single and Iwamura not advance to third?

This is what I get for briefly losing my radio feed.

Infield single.

Hard hit to third, and Youk bobbled it around.

Hit it to third. Youk mishandled it. He hit a lazer.
Youkilis knocked it down
Yuk kept the ball near him at 3B.
And it was in the 8th, actually.
THATS WHY I LOOOOOOVVEEEE THIS TOOOOOOOOWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!
Well, at least there are only a maximum of six more games featuring Bon Jovi every three minutes.
Okay, whatever you do DO NOT SWING CARLOS DO NOT SWING.
What the fuck.
Dumbass.
It was in his wheelhouse
That ball looked like it was crushed.

Too much topspin?

It was a line drive, and the Sox have a great outfield.

It’ll happen.

Too bad Drew didn't pull a Crawford there.
Too often today
That's a shame
I love Maddon's creativity, but Jesus.
JESUS GOD YOU DUMB FUCK
And it was ball four, too, probably.
Borderline, but again it wasn't a bad pitch to rip.
You take the walk and let Longoria come up with the bases loaded.
Yeah, Gameday has it right on the corner, but it was a good pitch to swing at.

Just not on a 3-0 count.

Pena can hit, with a worse hitter I'd be upset

but you can’t tie’s your star hitter’s hands like that

If Joe Maddon were really that innovative he would have.

Even in a 3-1 count, Pena’s sitting on the advantage.

You have to keep them honest

If you don’t swing at a watermelon on 3-0, you’re hurting yourself.

I guess. It doesn't make the pain go away though.
even longoria doesn't have a hit off masterson

he just doesn’t know how to hit him

Masterson is the one guy who always sucks when I watch, yet his numbers are decent.
Wouldn't it be nice if he continued sucking while you watched?
Can't wait on a breaking ball?

Were they not watching home run #2 in Game 1 of the divisonal series?

No the fuck he didn't.
God, I feel so...doomed.
Rays play like Mariners..if the Mariners could get people on base.
JESUS FUCKING CHRISTMONKEY

FUCK THIS GAME

Anyone want to join me in burning down a building?

FUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!

Aw shit.

The Rays are boned.

THERE IS NO GOD
.....what the.....
Evan Longoria has turned into Jose Vidro

I expect him to hit himself in the face during his next at-bat.

Is anyone else as sick as I am

of hearing about how Boston can manufacture runs now and doesn’t just have to hit homers?

Late and yes!
Manny hit a whopping six more homers than Bay this season.
Also,

Crisp and Lugo — two of their fasted players — have been riding the bench.

It's not a "new-look Red Sox offense," you fucking cock goblin.

This is the same team that it was before Manny left. They just replaced him with a guy who hits a little bit worse and fields better. They’re not “manufacturing” any more runs than they used to. Ellsbury and Pedroia can steal bases. Nothing has changed.

Please continue with the creative insults
I've got a few good ones saved up.
I also like 'fasted'
I'm angry.

And a bit tipsy.

I sensed both and I approve
I'm not an angry drunk, though, so these things tend to counteract each other.

I’ll make another drink and be totally calm. And I will accept the Rays’ fate.

As long as you continue to throw in creative insults I will still approve.
Are you offended by the c-word?

Because by Game 3 I could be a wreck.

I'm not really offended by much as long as it's directed not at me
It will all be directed at Buck Martinez, so no worries.
Score runs you assclowns.
These VW commercials could have been done so much better.
Crawford, Floyd, Navarro vs. Papelbon

Rays are boned.

Hey, Carl, be good again.
He took a pitch!
I'm not allowed to talk about why, but Carl is the most frustrating player in baseball.
(besides Felix, obviously)
That suit in incredible.
He is so awesome.
Crawford just got totally owned

3 swings, 3 misses vs fastball

"The clock strikes midnight on the Cinderalla Rays."

It’s Game 1.

Next game I think I'm going to load up my MLB radio,

pause the DVR for a few seconds to let it catch up, and go from there. I can’t take this shit anymore.

I think that was because it's actually midnight.
Still completely stupid.
"This time, experience has trumped exuberance."
At least it was a good game.
Congratulations Tampa Bay, you've completely embarrassed yourselves today.

With your inability to fill up your shitastic ballpark, your use of the worst noise generators in history, and your miserable performance on the field.

Do better.

Jesus Christ it's just one game.
Hence the word today.
So how much credit can we give Matsuzaka for being able to "pitch better with runners on base"?

Seems like you’d normally chalk it up to luck, but is this a repeatable skill for some pitchers?

A good defense helps, obviously.

It seems for Matsuzaka that this is a repeatable skill, I just saw an awesome stat:

“Opponents were hitless in 14 at-bats against the right-hander (Matsuzaka) with the bases loaded during the regular season”

Also colloquially, from someone playing behind him:

’’He’s amazing,‘’ Youkilis said. ’’He gets out of jams better than anyone I’ve ever seen.’’

And from what I’ve seen of him he’s one tough mofo to score off of (despite the walks).

It's not.
I'm sensing a brutal dose of regression in 2009.
Either that or he's the only pitcher in baseball history to be able to do this.
I think the main thing keeping him afloat in these situations is his strikeout rate.
And that he is a veteran that knows how to pitch

Thank you for using your subject line in future pictures.

It really helps for people with RDP, slow browsers, and that like keeping their threads clean.

Also, smaller.

But rec’d.

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