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And Then There Were Four

PENNANTS WON SINCE SEATTLE JOINED MLB IN 1977

Yankees 9
Braves 5
Cardinals 5
Dodgers 4
Athletics 3
Phillies 3
Red Sox 3
Blue Jays 2
Mets 2
Orioles 2
Royals 2
Indians 2
Twins 2
Tigers 2
Giants 2
Padres 2
Marlins 2
Astros 1
Pirates 1
Reds 1
Rockies 1
Rays 1
Angels 1
Brewers 1
Diamondbacks 1
White Sox 1
Expos/Nationals 0
Cubs* 0
Mariners 0
Nationals/Rangers 0

* 10 Pennants won all time

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Pretty much aside from the Yankees,

it’s remarkably well balanced. And to think it’s baseball with the reputation for being top-heavy and not having parity.

A coworker and I were talking about baseball parity yesterday. World Series winners since 2000:

2000:Yankees
2001:D-Backs
2002:Angels
2003:Marlins
2004:Red Sox
2005:White Sox
2006:Cardinals
2007:Red Sox
2008:Rays or Phillies

Only 1 repeat in this decade so far. Pretty good.

The best of any sport
Fucking Red Sox
But its the most annoying team that repeated : (
We will always remember the moment we are crossed off this list

Do you have the whole game recorded?

Because holy hell do I need to watch that right now.

You bet your ass I do

Watched it this morning

I have it also...

The crowd was so loud the stadium shook and kept knocking the ball off its holder tee during the opening kickoff.

Oh and also...

Even more awesome, the Panthers are my 2nd favorite football team. By far my 2nd favorite.

So this was like a state of Euphoria most sports fans could never dream of.

I'm a panther fan :(
Suck it Fizzbitch
At 14 years,

it took the Rockies the longest of any on the 90s expansion teams to find it’s way to the series.

Also, screw the Marlins.
No fair giving the Cubs an asterisk

… and that would be the Washington Senators/Texas Rangers.

How is it not fair?
And Senators/Twins

and, oh, what the hell, Browns/Orioles.

Ugh

That brings the suck into sharp focus.

The sad part is...

there’s no reason to believe the Mariners are in any better position than those other 3 clubs.

Well they're certainly in worse shape than the Cubs, but they're miles ahead of the Nats.
The Ms have far more financial resources at their disposal than Washington or Texas.

That counts for a lot.

Yes and no.

Sure I’ll grant we’re better off than either team. I’m just not sure how long that will last.

This season’s attendance wasn’t just the lowest ever at Safeco, it was the lowest in a non-strike season since before 1995. In fact, we’re not that far above 1991’s attendance:

2008: 2,329,702
1991: 2,147,905

Or, to give you another idea of where things are going: 2007’s attendance? Lower than 2004-2005.

You know about how you keep hearing “Gee, how come the Mariner fans keep showing up?” Well, they aren’t, actually. And attendance is usually a LAGGING indicator of team quality- teams usually have their best attendance the year AFTER a World Series win, and the Mariners cratered after 2004. If the team gets blown up this offseason… well, expect a Cleveland-style attendance collapse to 2 million or less.

Please indicate where the Mariners have a financial disadvantage to either Texas or Washington.
Absent a time machine to let me look 10 years in the future, I can't do this.

I think we have an advantage now. I don’t know if we’ll have one in the future if we keep going into a ditch.

The M's moneyhats aren't based solely off of gate revenue
Oh my goodness Texas is stacked with under-24 talent.
All their pitchers are screwed.

If anyone needed a sinker-obsessed FO, they would be it. Instead they get Mr. High Heat, Nolan Ryan.

If they could only come up with a league average rotation...
We had closer to a league average offense then they did league average rotation.

They have a long ways to go.

But their offense is amazing

Our black hole is slightly less awful than their black hole… but their strength is SO much greater than our strength.

Speaking of which, what is our strength anyway?

Yes

and yikes

They have a long ways to go, but can identify the specific people

they’re counting on, or the specific prospects they believe can contribute.

Feliz/Andrus/Ramirez/Teagarden/Davis etc.
They just need regression to somewhere close to average from Nippert/Hurley and they’re in half-decent shape. Or for Andrus to push Young back to 2b.

When Texas actually develops a starter than Jon Daniels doesn't subsequently trade away at low value

I’ll become concerned. Until then, there’s no reason the Mariners cannot recover faster and hold onto contention longer than the Rangers. They just to put the right people in charge.

At least he dealt Volquez at high value.
You don't think Volquez's value is higher now?
Seemed like a good idea at time.
Probably.

I just meant that Volquez, Danks, Young have all had their value go up somewhat dramatically after being traded by Daniels.

and moving Young and Danks

seemed silly at time

I'd say Josh Hamilton worked out rather nicely for them anyway
Assuming good health

I’d say a flame throwing “#1” is worth more than an very good RFer.

Hammy could throw a ball as hard as Volquez or at least really close.
Oh, a StatCorner suggestion

seems like the blog needs a more prominent link back to the homepage

You know the logo links back, yes?
The blog logo links to the blog. There is no SC logo on the data ferry blog.
Ohhh, the blog.

Hmm…

I take great solace in the fact that my suggestion was not entirely idiotic

thank you, NOLA

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