With Percival not making the playoff roster due to injury, most managers would have automatically plugged Balfour into the “closer” spot and refused to use him until the 9th inning. Because “that’s the way it’s done.” Instead, Maddon nominally gave that “position” to the reliable (but not overwhelming) Wheeler and said he’d use Balfour — his true relief ace — at any time, in any inning, whenever he was needed the most.
Bases loaded, one out, game on the line…and he strikes both batters out. Dominance.
Anyone else remember when this guy couldn’t find the strike zone with a map last year?
Where does the media get that Percival is hurt from?
Percival, 39, indicated he is healthy enough to pitch and believes the decision was made to get another player on the roster, not work around his previous ailments.
He was left off because he’s bad, not because he’s hurt.
I love Joe Maddon, but when Carlos Pena goes down as your #3 hitter, I'm not sure Carl Crawford would be my first choice to replace him there given the rest of the players on my roster.
Carl Crawford had a 91 OPS+ this year. His OBP was .319…he’s not as bad as he’s shown this year but there are better #3 hitters in the very same lineup.
You don’t know what you’re going to get out of Baldelli, and quite frankly if you’re going to base that on this year’s performance you should check Pena’s splits.
Aybar had a really low BABIP this year (.267 with a 20% LD rate), Baldelli I can see your point, and this year at least Navarro was more likely to get on base.
Better BB% (career and this year) lower K% (career and this year), better HR/FB, and equal LD rate with a BABIP 33 points worse.
He may not be a better hitter, but he’s had a better year, Crawford has been injured this year, and based on what Aybar’s responsible for, Aybar’s 2008>Crawford’s 2008 as a hitter. Crawford isn’t playing to his talent level but he’s also hurt, so it’s not crazy to think he’d play worse than his talent level right now.
Willy Aybar is a utility player who is not even on the same planet as Carl Crawford. Crawford, along with several other Rays, would have to be severely compromised to make it seems like a good idea.
Aybar's bat would make him the best utility batter in baseball then.
You still can’t refute the 20.5% LD rate and .267 BABIP, really. He’s not good, but he still had an acceptable season while getting about as unlucky as Beltre (21.7% LD rate, .279 BABIP) so he had some bad breaks this year. Aybar’s more of a hitter than his results show.
and has no business hitting third on a team that wants to win and has better options: Longo, Baldelli, Upton, Crawford, Iwamura, Pena all have to die in a fiery plane crash before I entertain the idea the hitting Aybar third is a viable option.
Look, I respect that you guys could be right, but rather than "that's just not true" I'd like to know why.
From what I’ve learned the past year, BABIP is largely dependent on luck. Aybar had a higher OPS than Crawford this year despite suffering terrible BABIP luck. He had a good LD rate (20.5) and a horrible BABIP (.267) His BB is higher. His K% is lower. His HR/FB% is higher. In most of these categories it’s better than Crawford’s for their career. Aybar hasn’t played as much so a lot of that could be SSS I guess.
I know I am still learning, but from what I’ve learned about balls-in-play and LD rate and all that, it seems like Aybar has gotten really unlucky and still had a better year, whereas Crawford was mildly unlucky and still had a worse year at the plate. All I’m asking for is more of a statistical response. I don’t like using numbers, even if they’re the wrong ones, and then being told I’m wrong without being told why. Tell me why the numbers I’m using are wrong. Jeff knows way more about baseball than me so yeah, he’s probably right. But give me a reason why here.
Well if he's a .737 OPS with bad luck, I don't know how much better, but at least a little better.
Same thing would happen to Crawford, but he was worse to begin with this year and he’s still a little injured. The Rays weren’t even sure he’d play in the ALDS at all.
Kazmir’s strike rate and swinging strike rate are the same as they were a year ago. The only differences are a higher LD% and an unsustainably higher HR%.
Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest
And their were other critia that forced my hand
1.) Eastern Conference
2.) Canadian Team
3.) No history of winning
4.) Not being the most obnoxious fans in the league
Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest
Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest
Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest
Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest
I had to suffer through 7 incredibly boring years of Cardinals baseball
before the A’s gave us McGwire, they didn’t start to win until after he had ceased being a useful regular. You better have to wait a full decade before your team has a 90 win equivalent season, and it better eb as boring as fuck while you are waiting.
and you’ll have many, many years of batshit crazy. Seattle cable gets the CBC and I used to never miss Coach’s Corner. Took a few years off, then saw it a couple times last year and…..ugh.
The Balfour Super Finger will become a cultural phenomenon if the Rays make the Series.
They could even do a commercial featuring it in real life situations ala the legendary Boonie Bat Flip spot.
He’s not really saber but he’s open enough that if Friedman or Click tell him “Hey, don’t do ____, it hurts your chances of scoring.” he’ll listen and adapt.
when he pretty much put the league on notice that the Rays were going to try to steal like 10 bags a game, and I was like, “This guy’s an idiot.” So I was wrong.
I just love that he’s creative. The bases-loaded walk to Hamilton blew my mind. Not the best idea, but just the fact that he had the balls to do it made me smile.
It’s pretty weird that the two managers I respect the most came from the organization I despise the most.
The SI article mentioned the Ortiz shift and having switch hitters bat right-handed only. He’s also shifted so the Rays had four outfielders and of course when he brought Upton up to second for five infielders.
It's funny because yesterday a TBS announcer
congratulated the Brewers for trading Seth McClung.
JI - October 3, 2008
That whole at bat was so much fun.
Fuck Orlando Cabrera.
Eyebrows - October 3, 2008
Grant Balfour is so much fun to watch.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
Yet another reason Maddon is Manager of the Year:
With Percival not making the playoff roster due to injury, most managers would have automatically plugged Balfour into the “closer” spot and refused to use him until the 9th inning. Because “that’s the way it’s done.” Instead, Maddon nominally gave that “position” to the reliable (but not overwhelming) Wheeler and said he’d use Balfour — his true relief ace — at any time, in any inning, whenever he was needed the most.
Bases loaded, one out, game on the line…and he strikes both batters out. Dominance.
Anyone else remember when this guy couldn’t find the strike zone with a map last year?
esoteric - October 3, 2008
Ehh
Wheeler has been the closer for a while, and Borowski saw more high leverage situations than Betancourt last year.
JI - October 3, 2008
Where does the media get that Percival is hurt from?
He was left off because he’s bad, not because he’s hurt.
Tyler - October 3, 2008
He's one of the few guys I'd let establish the fastball as much as he wants
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
I would give anything for a high-quality pic of Balfour doing the finger point.
He’s probably in mid-“FUCK” as he does it, too.
That dude is crazy entertaining.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
This work?
[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/17033/sitthefuckdown.jpg[/img]
P Brady - October 3, 2008
God dammit, used to forums:
P Brady - October 3, 2008
And he's friends with RRS!
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
I bet tehy hang out with Snelling at the hospital too.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
I am so glad you people are better than me and gif stuff like this.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
I have only JI to thank
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
JI is better than most.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
I'm better than him now but he was my teacher
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Only because you pay for better than sub-standard tools.
JI - October 3, 2008
I couldn't figure out how to get it the illegal way
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
This way problem as well.
JI - October 3, 2008
This is an interesting way to combine words
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
It's called demonoid, man.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
I understand how to use torrents
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
...CD Keys?
P Brady - October 3, 2008
The important thing is that I can .gif now
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Cabrera looks so sad.
Tyler - October 3, 2008
Pissing off Australians who throw near triple digits and aren't quite sane has its consequences.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
It has come to my attention that the lineup posted above is incorrect
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Damn blurry vision.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
And now it is not
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Why must Pena be such a pansy?
JI - October 3, 2008
Oh fuck they're playing Daft Punk. The Mariners played that as their pre-game song. Hopefully they don't catch the suck.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
AROUND THE WORLD, AROUND THE WORLD
P Brady - October 3, 2008
They've played it before every game since the home opener, versus the Mariners coincidentally.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
I wasn't aware. The Mariners started doing this mid-season.
Pirates of the Carribean in 2007 seemed luckier.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
Which we won thank you very much
And it only cost us Erik Bedard’s shoulder!
Robert - October 3, 2008
I love Joe Maddon, but when Carlos Pena goes down as your #3 hitter, I'm not sure Carl Crawford would be my first choice to replace him there given the rest of the players on my roster.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
Who else then?
JI - October 3, 2008
Upton, Longo, Aybar, Baldelli, Navarro?
Carl Crawford had a 91 OPS+ this year. His OBP was .319…he’s not as bad as he’s shown this year but there are better #3 hitters in the very same lineup.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
Aybar and Navarro are not good options
You don’t know what you’re going to get out of Baldelli, and quite frankly if you’re going to base that on this year’s performance you should check Pena’s splits.
JI - October 3, 2008
Aybar had a really low BABIP this year (.267 with a 20% LD rate), Baldelli I can see your point, and this year at least Navarro was more likely to get on base.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
If you think he's a better option than Crawford then I don't know what to say.
JI - October 3, 2008
Better BB% (career and this year) lower K% (career and this year), better HR/FB, and equal LD rate with a BABIP 33 points worse.
He may not be a better hitter, but he’s had a better year, Crawford has been injured this year, and based on what Aybar’s responsible for, Aybar’s 2008>Crawford’s 2008 as a hitter. Crawford isn’t playing to his talent level but he’s also hurt, so it’s not crazy to think he’d play worse than his talent level right now.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
It's a bunch of nonsense
Willy Aybar is a utility player who is not even on the same planet as Carl Crawford. Crawford, along with several other Rays, would have to be severely compromised to make it seems like a good idea.
JI - October 3, 2008
Aybar's bat would make him the best utility batter in baseball then.
You still can’t refute the 20.5% LD rate and .267 BABIP, really. He’s not good, but he still had an acceptable season while getting about as unlucky as Beltre (21.7% LD rate, .279 BABIP) so he had some bad breaks this year. Aybar’s more of a hitter than his results show.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
Then he shouldn’t hit third.
JI - October 3, 2008
Crawford is injured and wasn't good all year. It's not like Aybar's a worse option.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
No, that's exactly what it's like.
JI - October 3, 2008
If you say so.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
Aybar and Crawford were basically identically productive this year
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Willy Aybar is a league average hitter
and has no business hitting third on a team that wants to win and has better options: Longo, Baldelli, Upton, Crawford, Iwamura, Pena all have to die in a fiery plane crash before I entertain the idea the hitting Aybar third is a viable option.
JI - October 3, 2008
Look, I respect that you guys could be right, but rather than "that's just not true" I'd like to know why.
From what I’ve learned the past year, BABIP is largely dependent on luck. Aybar had a higher OPS than Crawford this year despite suffering terrible BABIP luck. He had a good LD rate (20.5) and a horrible BABIP (.267) His BB is higher. His K% is lower. His HR/FB% is higher. In most of these categories it’s better than Crawford’s for their career. Aybar hasn’t played as much so a lot of that could be SSS I guess.
I know I am still learning, but from what I’ve learned about balls-in-play and LD rate and all that, it seems like Aybar has gotten really unlucky and still had a better year, whereas Crawford was mildly unlucky and still had a worse year at the plate. All I’m asking for is more of a statistical response. I don’t like using numbers, even if they’re the wrong ones, and then being told I’m wrong without being told why. Tell me why the numbers I’m using are wrong. Jeff knows way more about baseball than me so yeah, he’s probably right. But give me a reason why here.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
How much better do you think he's gonna get if you project his numbers with "neutral" luck?
JI - October 3, 2008
Well if he's a .737 OPS with bad luck, I don't know how much better, but at least a little better.
Same thing would happen to Crawford, but he was worse to begin with this year and he’s still a little injured. The Rays weren’t even sure he’d play in the ALDS at all.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
He whines.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Carl would whine if he batted lower.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Let him whine.
JI - October 3, 2008
He would probably throw at-bats away.
Not that you can tell the difference.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Which is why you don't bat him 3rd
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
Lineup order makes basically zero difference
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Except when Jose Vidro bats cleanup
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Isn't it like 15 runs over a full season?
Small but not totally insignificant
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
The difference between batting Carl Crawford 3rd and batting somebody else 3rd is not 15 runs a season
and even if it were – which it’s not – that would mean less than one-tenth of a run per individual game.
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
I don't see any better options if Baldelli isn't 100%
JI - October 3, 2008
Plus I don't think Crawford's 2008 numbers represent his true talent
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
This much is obvious.
JI - October 3, 2008
So what? Do it right and the Rays win 5.1 to 5
Eyebrows - October 3, 2008
Yeah, I'm getting that number from baseball between the numbers, I think it was.
The example was Barry Bonds batting cleanup vs. leadoff. Obviously Crawford is not Barry Bonds.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
Agreed.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
He had to play center one day this year.
Pre-game he whined, during the game a line drive single to center, Mark Teahan scored from first. After the game Carl said he “forgot where he was.”
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
How does anyone score from first on a single?
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
Carl's arm is damon-esque/
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Carl's brain is Schiavo-esque.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
This is ideal.
Tyler - October 3, 2008
Ok stop sucking Kazmir.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
He hasn't been old Kazmir in a while.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
What happened to his slider?
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Probable injury.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
I assume his elbow is still tender.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
If only we had tRA monthly splits.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
Actually I was going to email Matthew about that.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Not going to happen anytime soon.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
Hmmm
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
I thought it was a 3:30 start time
JI - October 3, 2008
Kazmir likes to piss me off as early as possible.
Teej - October 3, 2008
Stop being hurt Kaz.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Maddon's not dicking around
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Awesome.
JI - October 3, 2008
no Hot Corner?
Gameday is just not going to cut it
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
I can't believe Jim Thome hits in the MOTO against lefties
JI - October 3, 2008
Thankfully Longoria is here to hit a few homers.
Teej - October 3, 2008
SO is TBS' Putchtrax accurate?
JI - October 3, 2008
I hate playoff games in domes
Robert - October 3, 2008
The first playoff game I ever saw was in a dome...it can be pretty awesome.
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
This is a pretty damn homo first inning
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Homogenous? Homoerotic? Homologous? Homophonic?
pdb - October 3, 2008
2%
kevin_ess - October 3, 2008
sapien
The Rays are human and therefore prone to mistakes.
JI - October 3, 2008
Homoerotic
Kazmir is gorgeous.
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Is this yet another example in a long list of reasons why you shouldn't pitch when injured?
Disappearing slider being an issue and all…
BrettJMiller - October 3, 2008
Probably. I think its Dead Arm.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Would the Rays really let him throw if they thought he was hurt though?
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Would Kazmir tell them he's hurt?
P Brady - October 3, 2008
You seem to think the Rays don't have access to the same (and more) of the things we do.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Kazmir hurts people by burning blunts on them.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
I blame his obviously faulty mechanics.
I mean, look at those mechanics. They’re HORRIFYING. He’s guaranteed to have his arm rot off any day now.
pdb - October 3, 2008
Kaz is loading the scapula all wrong.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
A misloaded scapula is like a loaded shotgun in the mouth
pdb - October 3, 2008
Ahahaha
that one douchebag at BPro wholeheartedly agrees
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
Will Carroll is an insufferable attention whore.
Eyebrows - October 3, 2008
It's okay to play through injury as long as you remain effective, which Kazmir has
albeit obviously to a lesser degree.
He also may not even be hurt.
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Perhaps you would take your chances with Edwin Jackson instead.
JI - October 3, 2008
Good heavens
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Did you hear about Kyle Lohse's new deal?
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/9/29/624485/9-29-open-extra-baseball-g#9086777
JI - October 3, 2008
My reaction to Edwin Jackson is similar.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Ok for free.
JI - October 3, 2008
You can have Edwin.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Can't be worse than Silva?
P Brady - October 3, 2008
No floor.
JI - October 3, 2008
Silva's tRA is all of .014 points worse.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Trop is not a HR park though, is Safeco?
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Safeco gives up less per SC.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
huh.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Dismal for righthanders, inviting to lefthanders
JI - October 3, 2008
This is why I want Lefty/Righty platoon spilts
joof - October 3, 2008
Most definitely.
JI - October 3, 2008
Edwin Should like that.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Edwin for money.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
He would face mostly lefthanded batters.
JI - October 3, 2008
He throws them as balls so they cant be hit 400 ft.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
And tRA would correct for it anyway
Graham MacAree - October 3, 2008
Ugh.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
I'd rather believe he is hurt.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Interestingly enough
Kazmir’s strike rate and swinging strike rate are the same as they were a year ago. The only differences are a higher LD% and an unsustainably higher HR%.
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Oh shit nevermind his groundball rate plummeted too
but it is interesting that despite all the BIP differences, his immediate pitch results remained stable.
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
If you look at his release point from this and last year.
He’s changed to make it more repeatable, yet the ball is released higher. Perhaps that’s a reason for more flyballs?
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
His last two starts were pretty good.
JI - October 3, 2008
Well, that sucked.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Well ast least it's till the first inning...
GO RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYS!
Slurvey - October 3, 2008
Balfour interview on HotCorner
and the interviewer didn’t even ask about the Cabrera at-bat. Heckuva job, TBS sports dork.
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
I hope it was Craig Sager
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Technicolor Dream Coat?
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
That man needs to be partnered with Don Cherry this instant.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
Lightning tomorrow, yay!
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Hockey is a white man's game.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
If I wasn't so insanely opposed to hockey in warm weather cities,
I would have jumped on the lightning. Their team looks Rays-esque.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
I cannot wait to see Stamkos in action.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
They already won once
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
That was the unneeded strike two.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
But among teams I would never bandwagon on,
I do like them.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
Chicago is also interesting
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Indeed.
They made my final six.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
That cost us Khabi and Stillman. :(
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
They were giving away tickets to the stanley cup playoffs the year they won it
Robert - October 3, 2008
This is why I am opposed to hockey in warm weather cities.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
Don't blame the sins of morons and those of us who are smart.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
AKA The White Devil.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Houston is going to love the 31st team
Robert - October 3, 2008
Fuck you NHL.
And fuck you David Stern.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
Garry Bettman was David Stern's apprentice before the NHL hired him to run the league into the ground
I shit you not
Robert - October 3, 2008
Too perfect.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
I'm convinced Tom Hansen had a secret internship with him too
Robert - October 3, 2008
Sens on CBC tomorrow right?
Robert - October 3, 2008
How is Meszaros?
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Embarrassing
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
You'll really enjoy the skittishness in the corners and the inaccurate floater on the powerplay
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Sounds like a defender Melrose would hate.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
He does not use his body nearly enough
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
None of our defenders do, but I'm excited about Mihalik.
6’8", 240 pound monster.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
He was named alternate captain today. :(
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
bahahahahahha
He’s young and loaded with potential (Volchenkov only recently became awesome), but last year he was unwatchable.
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
That seems to be the story with Carle as well.
If nothing else we’ll lead the league in 5-4 games.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
As long as you don't expect to win clean and often this should be a thrilling year for you guys
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Sounds like the old Rays methodology.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
The old Rays methodology was horrible
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
I'm quite aware.
I still have my black McGriff shirt though.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
LLemming!
JI - October 3, 2008
Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest
And their were other critia that forced my hand
1.) Eastern Conference
2.) Canadian Team
3.) No history of winning
4.) Not being the most obnoxious fans in the league
Robert - October 3, 2008
5) LL endorsed!
JI - October 3, 2008
Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest
Robert - October 3, 2008
I had to suffer through 7 incredibly boring years of Cardinals baseball
before the A’s gave us McGwire, they didn’t start to win until after he had ceased being a useful regular. You better have to wait a full decade before your team has a 90 win equivalent season, and it better eb as boring as fuck while you are waiting.
JI - October 3, 2008
Have you noticed at all how many times Robert has clamored for heartbreak from the Sens before they win?
Matthew - October 3, 2008
Heartbreak is not the same thing as Blue Jay style mediocrity
JI - October 3, 2008
oh snap
Robert - October 3, 2008
There is also this
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2007/4/7/173730/1659#3499078
Robert - October 3, 2008
Also I loved visiting Ottawa as a kid
Robert - October 3, 2008
Technically Ottawa has a long history of winning, just not ultimate winning
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Tell this to my NHL07 dynasty
Robert - October 3, 2008
Indeed
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Except I like Don Cherry
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
I think I've finally grown tired of his schtick
I liked him for a long long time, but in the last two or three years every time I see him he just kinda annoys me.
pdb - October 3, 2008
I get little exposure and so I still find him tolerable and batshit crazy
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
keep your exposure at its current level
and you’ll have many, many years of batshit crazy. Seattle cable gets the CBC and I used to never miss Coach’s Corner. Took a few years off, then saw it a couple times last year and…..ugh.
pdb - October 3, 2008
But wardrobe!
Matthew - October 3, 2008
How the hell is this guy for real?
JI - October 3, 2008
Expectations are rather low for this next at-bat
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
King David.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Throw more strikes, Kazmir
Fewer wide-angle shots of the underside of the dome roof, TBS
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
EJ's Mailbag sounds like a porno or a kids show.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Movie News: Steven Seagal's In Siege 3 has been greenlighte, and it will take place in space.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Under Siege
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Wooo In play, run(s) score
Double06 - October 3, 2008
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
That was a weird sequence of events to score a run on but huzzah
Matthew - October 3, 2008
I only caught the runner jogging to 3rd, how'd he get there
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
The alien made a stupid throwing error.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
His spacecraft malfunctioned.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Pussy hit brigade!
Double06 - October 3, 2008
Cmon Bartlett, pretend you know what to do with that bat
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
ugh
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
I really don't want to drive home and miss part of this >:(
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Kazmir will make sure you miss little.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Buehrle will make sure you miss lots
Double06 - October 3, 2008
Barty = MVP
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Fuck Bartlet.
Double06 - October 3, 2008
But MVP.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Why don't the fans chant that when he bats?
JI - October 3, 2008
They do when Evan is up.
Our local beat writer labeled Law and Posnanski as guys who “know little.”
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
So did Dork.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
There are reasons we ignore that site.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
I like to read it as comedy.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
But Posnanski would be a fantastic writer even if he didn't know anything about baseball
seattlebruin - October 4, 2008
Goddamn double plays.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
What happened to this thread?
Unless my browser is messing with me again, nobody’s posting in it. My browser is probably messing with me.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
Nah.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Not really, just DRBing it.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Real men do both at once.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
It's just dead in here.
Eyebrows - October 3, 2008
I'm expected to actually work until about 5:30,
so I’m pretty much lurking until then.
Thingray - October 3, 2008
We're watching more intently.
Double06 - October 3, 2008
Meh. Victor Zambrano was better.
Double06 - October 3, 2008
You are a sad, sad little man.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Flagged for stupid
(NB: Did not actually flag)
Graham MacAree - October 3, 2008
..Or maybe just Kaz is excitable for the first few innings.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Still unacceptable.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Not saying it isn't.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
That's a shame.
JI - October 3, 2008
It's a shame about Rays.
Eyebrows - October 3, 2008
At least they're not down 1-0.
:p
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Here I make a Lemonheads reference, and I get my feelings hurt.
: (
Eyebrows - October 3, 2008
It's okay, Big Gay Eyes.
:P
kevin_ess - October 3, 2008
Bahahaha
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I just realized I failed.
Supposed to be Big Gay Heart.
I’m a fool.
kevin_ess - October 3, 2008
I totally missed that...
Thingray - October 3, 2008
Aw, I'm sorry.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Willy!
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Longoria isn't ready for the big time.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
Bizarrely enough, however, Willy Aybar is.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
Too much of a newcomer.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
No veteran grit
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
They should have signed Reitsma for veteran grit.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I hear Rick White is available.
Eyebrows - October 3, 2008
Quick! Someone call Armstrong!
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
He needs to listen to me more
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/10/2/626981/10-2-rays-white-sox-part-2#9141389
seattlebruin - October 4, 2008
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/10/2/626981/10-2-rays-white-sox-part-2#9142926
seattlebruin - October 4, 2008
Someone needs to tell that one fan that he's being picked up by this TBS feed
so he yells louder and more often.
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
He usually is heard every AB.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
I know. I'm a little jealous.
Lents Park Homer - October 3, 2008
TBS + Catwalks = Unnatural Metal Bridge Love.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Amen!
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I don't recall there ever being a ball "stuck" up there.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Pena did it once last year.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Against Bedard!
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
...How do you know this?
P Brady - October 3, 2008
I was watching the game.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Huh.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Yeah.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Surely Kaz is going to start being good soon.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
OK, he started.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Well that was neat.
JI - October 3, 2008
Wooo.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
M-V-P
P Brady - October 3, 2008
I hate people that think Kazmir has been better than Shields this year.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I hate people that use ERA, so we hate the same people.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
It's sad how baseball refuses to grow up.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
So do I. Or people who think Edwin is our second best starter.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Gahhh.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
However, he would still make a great M.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
You guys are both awesome.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Kaz is getting grounders. He's making me excited.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
AKI!
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
AKI!!!
Double06 - October 3, 2008
Aki is only a 2nd year MLBer, he'll fold.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
IWA!
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Iwamura?
Yay!
joof - October 3, 2008
It's a pleasant surprise!
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Considering Reynolds' comments
that homer couldn’t have been better timed.
JI - October 3, 2008
ESPN referenced 9=8 this morning.
I laughed when they got it wrong.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
This is still novel to me
The
DevilRays are playing in October.By the time the M’s get back there I may feel the same way.
Big Jared - October 3, 2008
I almost feel bad for White Sox fans.
Poor fuckers. Second lead their team has blown in two days.
Let’s hope this stands up, though.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
I feel more sorry for Cubs fans.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Sucks to live in Chicago?
joof - October 3, 2008
Bad times all around Chi-town.
Big Jared - October 3, 2008
Yessir.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Worse times in Seattle.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Nationals.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
And I root for both teams!
Plus, as an added bonus I live on the South Side of Chicago.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
They have the Wizards.
Fuck Washington.
Double06 - October 3, 2008
But Dukes.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
But Child Support.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
No
The Nationals came through down the stretch and worsted us thus securing the #1 pick.
Big Jared - October 3, 2008
They''ll pick some not named strasburg. Probably a HSer.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Not a chance.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
But Bowden.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
But taking away my pleasure in pain.
Double06 - October 3, 2008
I, of course, channeled Fairly
isn’t it funny how a fella makes a big play, and then comes up to bat in the bottom of the inning
msb - October 3, 2008
Balfour Vs. Cabrera, haha.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Balfour v Cabrera
This WILL BE AWESOME
Eyebrows - October 3, 2008
This has the potential to be epic.
What if O-Cab punks him? I couldn’t live with that.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
Is TBS implying the magical 1906 Cubs choked because the players were impotent?
Double06 - October 3, 2008
God I hope so.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
I calmly advise Orlando Cabrera to sit the fuck down.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
This has to be Rec'd.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
I was hoping he would line into a double play.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
Bold Prediction
The Balfour Super Finger will become a cultural phenomenon if the Rays make the Series.
They could even do a commercial featuring it in real life situations ala the legendary Boonie Bat Flip spot.
Big Jared - October 3, 2008
There was already an ad campaign for this once.
Double06 - October 3, 2008
ATTN WHITE SOX: Grant Balfour hates you and takes pleasure in snuffing out your hopes and dreams.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
He'll send dingoes at those babies.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
This would be a mighty fine time for Evan Longoria to re-acclimate himself with playoff success.
Matthew - October 3, 2008
He's starting small with a base hit.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
Woo line drives!
Double06 - October 3, 2008
...Uhh Bunt?
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Why sac bunt? Why?
Someone get Maddon on the phone.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
He does this crap sometimes.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Just to make sure we don't get too comfortable with singing his praises?
esoteric - October 3, 2008
Yes,
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Probably.
He’s not really saber but he’s open enough that if Friedman or Click tell him “Hey, don’t do ____, it hurts your chances of scoring.” he’ll listen and adapt.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
I read that the first time as "he's not really sober"
LOL!
Thingray - October 3, 2008
He's a wine-o
P Brady - October 3, 2008
I'd like him better of he was a whiskey freak or something.
Thingray - October 3, 2008
Nice feature on him in the new SI.
Cool character.
Teej - October 3, 2008
Yep.
He’s awesome. I love how a year ago every radio host wanted him fired, now he’s “the x-factor” or something.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
I have a friend on my bowling team that is a dead-ringer for Maddon.
Trips me out whenever I watch an M’s-Rays game with him.
Thingray - October 3, 2008
I remember a couple years ago,
when he pretty much put the league on notice that the Rays were going to try to steal like 10 bags a game, and I was like, “This guy’s an idiot.” So I was wrong.
I just love that he’s creative. The bases-loaded walk to Hamilton blew my mind. Not the best idea, but just the fact that he had the balls to do it made me smile.
It’s pretty weird that the two managers I respect the most came from the organization I despise the most.
Teej - October 3, 2008
Maddon and who?
Thingray - October 3, 2008
Scioscia.
Teej - October 3, 2008
Duh..
My mind of on beer already, I’m just stuck at work waiting for the IT guy to deliver a new battery backup.
Thingray - October 3, 2008
I just made a beer run.
No I’m enduring a way-too-strong IPA and praying for a ground ball.
Teej - October 3, 2008
*Now
Teej - October 3, 2008
That's okay,
I just got a call from the IT guy saying “I’m just leaving Renton now”, and I’m in Shoreline.
Plus it turns out he bought the wrong part, so I just told him “fuck it, be here Monday morning, I have friends to meet at the bar”.
Thingray - October 3, 2008
He does some insane shit.
The SI article mentioned the Ortiz shift and having switch hitters bat right-handed only. He’s also shifted so the Rays had four outfielders and of course when he brought Upton up to second for five infielders.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Do they really have to debut this NLDS commercial when the brewers are down 0-2?
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Uh oh.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
This could be bad.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
Jay Pee should be good.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
You know what would be better TBS? GB% instead of "OPP AVG".
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Chip Caray forgetting how to speak is atop my TBS wish list.
Teej - October 3, 2008
WHY IS RANDY SMITH'S NAME EVEN BEING THOUGHT OF
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2008224010_mari03.html
Robert - October 3, 2008
Wow. We are such a fucked up franchise.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Robert - October 3, 2008
Engle is reportedly being considered?
Didn’t see that coming.
Teej - October 3, 2008
Nooooo. I like liking Engle.
Double06 - October 3, 2008
Your pres is dumb?
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Duh.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
A few saber guys on there.
Hoyer, Hahn, and Forst.
Jennings can draft decently, from what I recall. Not sure about his personnel decisions.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
But Churchill said Forst is going to be Oakland's GM
JI - October 3, 2008
Due to Beane moving up?
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Yes.
JI - October 3, 2008
The M's are way too stubborn to hire him anyway.
Teej - October 3, 2008
I think they're just paying lip service
Remember that interview recently where the question was about Oakland and Minnesota, and he refused to talk about Oakland?
JI - October 3, 2008
J.P. owns.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Jay pee is so awesome.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Sorry bastards.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
Jay Pee is my favorite pen pitcher for a reason.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Not a strike
JI - October 3, 2008
The first one was.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
That was one stupid sign
JI - October 3, 2008
Sign Lady is a fucking whore.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
She looked 30ish and blond.
JI - October 3, 2008
I hate Lady Gaga.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Go to hell.
Double06 - October 3, 2008
Not Sign Lady then.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
OH!!! YES!!!!
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
STRIKE THREE CALLED
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
RAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Double06 - October 3, 2008
Yeah I'd be prett pissed in his place.
JI - October 3, 2008
The first and third strikes looked like real strikes.
That second one was high, though.
Teej - October 3, 2008
The third one seemed questionable too
JI - October 3, 2008
First pitch of the inning was a strike/
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Er, AB
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Ah
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
What does that have to do with anything?
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
What's important is that Howell through between 3 and 4 strikes in that at bat
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Through?
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Through =/= threw.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Jesus Christ
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
I understood it
JI - October 3, 2008
You get me
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
It's why I keep coming back.
JI - October 3, 2008
What a sentimental moment.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
butthol?
JI - October 3, 2008
Speaking.
joof - October 3, 2008
GOD.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Bahahaha
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I thought this was a pun before reading the responses
Dewey N - October 3, 2008
JP is fucking nasty.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
JP MOTHERFUCKING HOWELL
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Good relievers are so hard to find.
JI - October 3, 2008
I miss George.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
He's not really that good.
JI - October 3, 2008
Not anymore.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Howell is bad and definitely wasn't worth trading for last offseason
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
I wish we'd gotten Jackson.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
No you don't.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
I wish they did.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Yes you do.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
No he doesn't.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
What type of moron trades for a guy with a 7.59 ERA?
JI - October 3, 2008
I hope everyone here got that sarcasm.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I sincerely doubt it.
JI - October 3, 2008
Sweet mercy did he ever have an awful LD%
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
What was it? 25%?
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Around there
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Silva-esque.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I like how Swisher walked towards first on all three strikes
joof - October 3, 2008
Once an A............
Big Jared - October 3, 2008
Whoever the announcer on ESPN radio is, he is aboslutely terrible.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
It's Miller, right?
P Brady - October 3, 2008
I don't know.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
TRIPLE!!!
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
UPTON
Double06 - October 3, 2008
FUCKING LAZY THAT.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
If he had run hard out of the box it would have been a homer.
JI - October 3, 2008
Possibly.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
He's being sarcastic.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I'm aware.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
Are you?
JI - October 3, 2008
I don't think he is.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
No.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
I didn't think so.
JI - October 3, 2008
You're always right.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
CALL HIM LAZY NOW
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Wow, lazy
joof - October 3, 2008
RUNS
Double06 - October 3, 2008
I am going to sully my trousers
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Nice!
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
That was cool.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
AJ had no chance.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Thread for the night game goes up at 6:15
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
I bet it'll be rocking.
JI - October 3, 2008
All the cool kids'll be there.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I didn't want this thread to be spoiled
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
It hasn't been spoiled?
JI - October 3, 2008
Good man.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Yeah, it's almost like teams try in the playoffs.
JI - October 3, 2008
Rocco deserves that.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
I hope Josh Hamilton is enjoying watching a better story
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
He and Eliah Dukes could have made this team good.
JI - October 3, 2008
Don't remind us.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Character matters.
JI - October 3, 2008
Or does it?
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Woot!
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Matt Thornton's postseason debut!
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
bahahahahahahaha
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Laughing at your own joke, Jeff? How tacky.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
So the White SOx aren't that good and are going to be making a quick exit.
JI - October 3, 2008
Rocco still has the jets.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
aaaaaaaaaaahahahah GO MOTHERFUCKER RUN YOUR ASS OFF
Double06 - October 3, 2008
That was silly
joof - October 3, 2008
If Baldelli had truly been flying the White Sox could appeal to second base because he wouldn't have touched it
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
I remember when ESPN was calling Nappo Baldelli the next Joe Dimagio
Robert - October 3, 2008
DiMaggio?
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
He misspelled Rocco too.
JI - October 3, 2008
Nah, more like butchered.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Maybe I was trying to be clever faggot
Robert - October 3, 2008
Just admit you butchered it.
JI - October 3, 2008
Come clean. It'll feel good afterward.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Did you just wake up this morning and decide you were going to respond to every comment?
JI - October 3, 2008
If you call omitting a G and not capitalizing a gay middle letter butchering
Robert - October 3, 2008
The gay ones are the most important.
JI - October 3, 2008
You still pronounce it the same
Robert - October 3, 2008
More like Joe Difagio
Dewey N - October 3, 2008
Rocco?
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Family Guy tie in!
JI - October 3, 2008
Family Guy + Only One October = Worse than Frank TV?
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Family Guy tie in??????
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Thank you for the wonderfull year LookoutLanding <3
You guys are the best non-Rays fans ever
Sylar - October 3, 2008
We count as Rays fans, don't we?
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I meant in broad generalization
Mariners fans. Then Rays fans.
Like i’m a Rays fan then a Mariners fan
Sylar - October 3, 2008
Vice versa for most of us.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I wish Jeff would be my friend again :(
Sylar - October 3, 2008
We all wish that.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Are they ever letting you back on NEOGaf to enjoy your moment of triumph?
Robert - October 3, 2008
Probably not.
Although someone should ask for my unbanment if the Rays win the world series….
hint hint
Also screw the bandwagon fans on GAF. I’m the only Rays fan there. Snaku and those other losers = losers
Sylar - October 3, 2008
Are you banned bluemax?
Sylar - October 3, 2008
Let Junior hit!
JI - October 3, 2008
That whole sequence was amazing
JI - October 3, 2008
ARE YOU FUCKING JOKING ME???
Double06 - October 3, 2008
Instant replay is bad for baseball
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
Gah.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
It's a Friday night and I'm watching tv
I’ll be damned if I lose those two minutes
JI - October 3, 2008
I'm just gonna say it
I flat out don’t like Harold Reynolds
JI - October 3, 2008
Instant replay is unfair!
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
*To the umpires
JI - October 3, 2008
I like him
Robert - October 3, 2008
I hate the sound of his voice.
JI - October 3, 2008
I feel like that delay where they were talking could have been better used.
joof - October 3, 2008
DOUBLE KILL
Sylar - October 3, 2008
Longo is good at D
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Feh. He's too young and can't yet handle the pressure of playoff baseball.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
WHAT'S HE BAD AT?
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
I like these Rays fans!
Can you guys stay please? How about we trade Fogel and Corco for you?
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Fogel is untouchable
Robert - October 3, 2008
Corco, Andrewgolfsalot, and esoteric, then?
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
The latter are decent prospects.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Fogel is untouchable
Robert - October 3, 2008
I know that.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Fogel is untouchable
Robert - October 3, 2008
Robert is broken.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
That was an unlikely ending.
JI - October 3, 2008
NEVAR FORGET
Sylar - October 3, 2008
I believe it is spelled "never"
JI - October 3, 2008
Rays Won, Have a gif.
P Brady - October 3, 2008
Smaller
JI - October 3, 2008
And if they have to be that big can you please not include a subject bar
Robert - October 3, 2008
I created the internet
Sylar - October 3, 2008
It appears that is true.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
I'll never get tired of this.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
It's unfortunate that experience matters so much.
R.J. Anderson - October 3, 2008
As an Mariner's fan it is so nice to actually root for a team to win! Go Rays!
mark sobba - October 3, 2008
"An Mariners fan"?
Fail.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
you're an grammar nazi.
kevin_ess - October 3, 2008
Matthew turned me into one.
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Mathew turned me into a frog.
Good kisser, though.
kevin_ess - October 3, 2008
Rec'd
.Taylor - October 3, 2008
Urine grammar nazi.
kevin_ess - October 3, 2008
Way to go Kazmir, by the way.
Totally turned his game around after that first inning.
esoteric - October 3, 2008
Once again I forgot to close my back door before yelling a lot
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
They're not even your team.
JI - October 3, 2008
They're America's team.
kevin_ess - October 3, 2008
They are for now
Jeff Sullivan - October 3, 2008
I got very angry when Alex Gonzalez booted that double play ball five years ago.
JI - October 3, 2008
Five years. We al need to get over a lot of shit.
kevin_ess - October 3, 2008
They should have had a better player there
Jeff Sullivan - October 4, 2008
Alex Gonzalez was good at defense.
JI - October 4, 2008
Any chance we can get Rays win expectancy charts?
basebliman - October 4, 2008
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