Today was the season ticket holder event with new GM Jack Zduriencik. Thanks to Brett, I sneaked in, stole some free food and cribbed some notes on the surprisingly intelligent discourse. Nothing here will be verbatim, but will combine what I felt were key ideas both said and unsaid.
Talent wins. This phrase in one form or another was uttered probably a dozen times and it really seems to be Zduriencik's underlining principle. Above all else, get talented players and everything else will sort itself out.
He mentioned in connection with the managerial search that just because a person hasn't managed at the big league level doesn't mean he doesn't have experience. He went on to specifically talk about coaching and such but I think it's a good indicator again of how he might evaluate talent. It says to me that he's less apt to make a veteran, experience-motivated player acquisition and realizes that experience in the minor leagues counts for something.
He wants to sign Felix long term, but even here mentioned his desire to create a winning team that would make Felix want to stay. In conjunction with a question about Ichiro being moved back to CF, he reiterated that some of the specifics are going to be figured out based on a reaction to what other teams offer. In other words, Zduriencik might not go into a Beltre or Putz trade negotiation saying "we need a LFer" but instead, be more open-ended about it. Made a point of stating that the goal is to fix things the right way. He didn't mention (I thought meaningfully) short or long term. My impression based on that is that he's not committed to a rebuild or retool specifically, but of a "lets make smart moves starting now and when we get there, if we get there" sort.
He talked about revamping how players are developed. Specifically, that each player has their own development pace and they need to be attuned to that. Noted that plate patience has to be preached starting from day one in the organization. Wants to improve the fans knowledge of the minor league prospects as well.
Negated a question about increasing small ball, saying essentially again that talent wins and that the in game strategies are more determined by the club at the moment. In other words, the players drive the strategy, the strategy doesn't drive the player acquisition. Also made a mention without prompting about SafeCo being a tough park on RH hitters, so he at least showed awareness of that, already an improvement.
Wants to really make Seattle a model franchise, in all aspects. Mentioned Tony Blengino in a sabrmetrics view and that they're going to be putting together some researchers to help inform decisions at every level. That more information is better and that they want to be able to equip the coaches and managers with everything they might need.
No on Bobby Valentine and reading (perhaps too much) between the lines, no on Raul Ibanez coming back and unlikely that Fields gets signed unless the signing bonus demand from Boras comes well down.
All in all, it was fabulous. Given the obvious PR needs involved, Zduriencik answered almost every question how I would have liked to hear it answered. I was also pleased with the attendees for asking (on the most part) not stupid questions. For instance, not a single mention of Willie Bloomquist! Only thing lacking was a discussion about defense, but hey, cannot get them all.
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Finally, some good news.
JI - November 12, 2008
Agreed
this is a really hope inspiring read.
bluemax - November 12, 2008
Dang it
I was hoping to get in a debate about the isopachs and paleocurrents of the Colorado Plateau, but this news sounds like a step in the right direction.
InSpokane - November 12, 2008
ah yes
I think I was at a geology seminar-type thing, and the speaker used the phrase “orogenous zone,” and I laughed.
wackomann - November 13, 2008
I'll be doing my own recap of this as well. I'm writing a story for the college paper, and because I had my laptop with me I got some good quotes.
I mean, I have to write the story anyway so I might as well post it here too. I’ll also have a few pics.
BrettJMiller - November 12, 2008
I realize that doesn't make sense. The laptop just means it was easier to transcribe what he was saying faster than if by hand writing.
My battery died half way through though, so some of it can’t be a direct quote.
BrettJMiller - November 12, 2008
Overall agree
Overall what we heard was good— talent, scouting, development, new sabermetric dept. The other great thing was this (approximate quotes)— “you can’t fix the team by making free-agent signings. You have to have a good group of 0-3 years experience guys, and a few good 4-5 years guys too” to win.
I agree that reading between the lines, Ibanez’ return is not likely.
The only bad thing from Z, for me, was not dismissing “team chemistry” enough, and this extra tidbit— when hiring a manager, he wants someone who will “be part of the (Seattle) community.” Too touchy-feely for me.
On the audience side, the non-mention of Bloomquist was good, but there were too many longings for Griffey— especially the one woman who said “he would provide a good clubhouse leader”— but then the chuckling among the other season-ticket holders around me when she was saying this made hearing the question worthwhile.
edgar is good - November 12, 2008
He's gotta have the touchy-feely stuff though
even if he doesn’t do it in practice, he has to throw the sensitive souls a bone because that’s what they expect.
pdb - November 12, 2008
I read Matthew's "touchy-feely" line
as relating to the manager interacting with the fans, not his interaction with the team…
msb - November 12, 2008
He's the GM, not the moose.
Llewdor - November 13, 2008
An end to "roles"?
Hmmm….that sounds encouraging…..
He can be all touchy-feeling he wants if Zduriencik puts in a sabremetric department, revamps player development and lets the players drive the game strategy…
rtang - November 12, 2008
Holy balls I'm excited about something Mariners related
For that I give Jack Zduriencik my utmost gratitude
Corco - November 12, 2008
Go Dewey
Dewey N - November 12, 2008
I'm gonna wait for actual moved before I get excited about Zoidberg...
SethGrandpa - November 12, 2008
Chuck Armstrong finally made one good decision in his lifetime.
JLC - November 12, 2008
You know what's funny?
When I passed him on Saturday in front of Safeco (walking with GMZ who was wearing a hoodie sweatshirt), the first thing that I was going to say was “Good Hire, Chuck!” but he was too busy bragging about his golf game for me to even get a word in edge-wise…
PositivePaul - November 12, 2008
Well summated Matthew.
I went with one of the guys I share seats with. We were both happy with the answers overall. Jack handled the few bad ones very well.
We also blame ourselves for not throwing a defense question out there. After Mike Cameron came up would have been the perfect time, but by then people were pretty well in line to ask already.
I am excited about this offseason just because I think Jack will give us at least one good surprise move.
Sec 108 - November 12, 2008
"Jack handled the few bad ones very well."
ah, the horrors of FanFest.
msb - November 12, 2008
My mom and I are season ticket holders.
Why the hell didn’t I know about this? What the hell? I am so mad I missed this!
Btw, I am also so happy to hear about all of this! It sounds pretty good.
mark sobba - November 12, 2008
Sounds like you need better seats......
What an incentive!
TheEmrys - November 13, 2008
So, question on Defense at FanFest this year, then...
PositivePaul - November 12, 2008
I, too, am curious
Also a season ticket holder, also had no idea this was taking place. Good news all ’round it sounds like, but totally a sad kitty I missed out. :/
section331 - November 12, 2008
They sent e-mails, you had to RSVP by Monday.
BrettJMiller - November 12, 2008
Ah, thanks.
I’ve been having issues with my email and their announcements ever since last August. I got the one for the photo thing on Saturday, but not this one.
section331 - November 13, 2008
Optimism.
Now there’s something I haven’t felt in ages.
BrianL - November 12, 2008
Dash it.
Quickly
seattlebruin - November 13, 2008
Your Seattle Mariner's new starting center fielder:
Ken Griffey Jr.
JAH - November 13, 2008
This is incredibly encouraging
Robert - November 12, 2008
This makes me very, very happy.
Hooray “Department of Baseball Research”
Terminator_X - November 13, 2008
This is awesome news.
GMZ makes me feel that with him manning the Mariners and Pritchard manning the Blazers, my teams are in good hands.
joof - November 13, 2008
And with Presti managing the Sonics!...
Oh…
JY - November 13, 2008
I'm starting to suspect
That Zduriencik is an intelligent man. This is encouraging.
spittle8 - November 17, 2008
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