I see Pravda's been hiring:
Of the three, Ibanez is the player the Mariners would love to have back.
...
The Mariners, though, clearly want him back -- new general manager Jack Zduriencik reached out to Ibanez by telephone.
The truth about that phone call, from three different sources, one of them being literally the very next paragraph from the same story:
"This guy deserves a phone call from the general manager because of his contributions to this club, this city, and the type of person he is, a guy of great character," Zduriencik said. "We'll see where it goes from here."
Ibanez, 36, hit .293 this year with 23 homers and a team-leading 110 runs batted in. Zduriencik termed the conversation "very cordial" but was noncommittal about how hard the Mariners would pursue re-signing Ibanez.
"It was nothing more than a complimentary conversation of respect that he very well deserves — an introduction so he knows who I am," Zduriencik said.
If the Mariners really badly want Ibanez to come back, there's no indication of it anywhere, save for this article, in which the statement is totally unsubstantiated. It's like saying "Erik Bedard is an alcoholic. He recently went to the store." The former sentence is in no way supported by the latter, especially if you already know prior to writing that the reason for the action in the latter is completely unrelated to the former. So it's more like saying "Erik Bedard is an alcoholic. He recently went to the store" when you know with absolute certainty that all he bought were Shark Bites and granola*. It's just a silly and irresponsible thing to write.
Raul Ibanez is a below-average player. He's also 36 years old and has been to the playoffs once. I highly doubt GMZ wants to pay for him to come back, just like I highly doubt Raul would want to re-sign. The reason for the phone call was to allow a new GM to introduce himself to the team's elder statesman and express his gratitude for all Ibanez has done over the years. That's it. It was out of respect, not some desire to convince a declining veteran to stick around and not win ever.
Old players who aren't very good and are overvalued by the market serve little purpose to a ballclub in transition, and GMZ knows that. The local media is gonna need to learn how to let go. Shit's about to get real.

* if all Erik Bedard bought at the store were Shark Bites and granola I would be more inclined to call him a stoner**
** I am not calling Erik Bedard a stoner
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I hope the Raul to Wrigley rumors are true.
JI - November 14, 2008
No
Sec 108 - November 14, 2008
THe Cubs would have the worst defensive OF of all time.
JI - November 14, 2008
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BAL/BAL200804050.shtml
Matthew - November 14, 2008
Not even close
I got to witness this firsthand/ It was perhaps the highlight of my baseball life.
JI - November 14, 2008
I was at that game.
I sat in the lower right field level seats, and I was really excited to see Ichiro up close. Unfortunately, that was the only day out of the year that Hargrove makes Ichiro DH.
Fin - November 16, 2008
I bet I had to drive further.
JI - November 16, 2008
It would be entertaining, to say the least.
Blicks - November 16, 2008
Well Z's quote indicates the opposite of wanting him back...
It seems to imply that the only reason he called Raul is because he “deserved” it. On top of that, when does a GM ever have serious intent to resign a guy and say, “We’ll see where it goes from here.”? No, they normally say, “We really want (Player X) back and will do everything to re-sign him.” I think this can only be a positive sign of no Raul in our future. Plus you have to think Z, over almost anybody else, would love to get himself some more draft picks considering his background, right?
Oh, and Erik Bedard is an alcoholic…
SethGrandpa - November 14, 2008
I like how we haven't heard anything about calling Willie
Jeff Sullivan - November 14, 2008
It will be interesting to see what happens to him.
Edgar for Pres - November 14, 2008
He will coach a Little League Baseball Team somewhere in Southwest WA
InSpokane - November 14, 2008
Because Willie is the actual target, Raul is smokescreen. Sleight of hand and misdirection to lull Boras into complacency.
dpseadv - November 14, 2008
St. Louis!
Coach Owens - November 14, 2008
I doubt he'd want to be Aaron Miles' bitch.
JI - November 14, 2008
Once he realizes he can't get a major league deal anywhere else
he’ll come back to Seattle because we’ll at least guarantee him $850,000 or so to sit on the end of the bench.
That’d be my guess, and for some reason I wouldn’t be disappointed if that happened
Corco - November 15, 2008
according to WIllie on KJR
he hasn’t heard personally from Z or the FO; he knows they have talked to Boras, but he was honest and said he didn’t know if the call was about him or not.
msb - November 15, 2008
I wonder if GMZ asked him about the lawn dart?
InSpokane - November 14, 2008
Shark Bites are so incredibly good.
Teej - November 14, 2008
*braces self*
I’m totally ready, let’s do this.
section331 - November 14, 2008
Hot Fuzz was an awesome movie.
Coach Owens - November 14, 2008
Good man
Jeff Sullivan - November 14, 2008
I'm just saying that because the line at the end of the post (not counting the Bedard "notes) reminded me of it.
Coach Owens - November 14, 2008
Yeah?
I thought it looked lame, but so did Shaun of the Dead, and that movie was a riot.
Teej - November 14, 2008
Some of the jokes are kind of old, but the brilliant acting by Pegg and Frost, great writing by Wright and Pegg
and Wright’s great directing makes it just as good as Shaun of the Dead.
Coach Owens - November 14, 2008
And sorry for going off-topic here, Jeff.
Coach Owens - November 14, 2008
Oh yeah, good call.
I have this and the off-topic thread up, and I get confused.
Teej - November 14, 2008
I was excited to see Tim and Dawn from The Office in Shaun of the Dead.
Teej - November 14, 2008
First thing I have heard from you that I TOTALLY agree with in quite some time.
seattlesundevil - November 15, 2008
Rec'd for "Shit's about to get real."
Best laugh I’ve had all day. So true.
Double06 - November 14, 2008
Tiny update
From John Hickey:
Sounds like from Zduriencik’s perspective, Ibanez is a nice guy to have around but he will not go out of his way to keep him.
Wait a sec, we’re supposed to want Ibanez back really badly…or something.
ThundaPC - November 14, 2008
OHHH....that article is by Rhett Bollinger
The same guy that came up with this gem when describing Bill Bavasi’s tenure:
Ahhh…yep, MLB.com hired a good one here….
ThundaPC - November 14, 2008
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/9/26/622935/howard-lincoln-on-the-gm-s#9078021
Robert - November 14, 2008
Do you think Marinerfan47 is some other douche who loved John Mabry?
How many could there be?
Corco - November 15, 2008
Oh for fuck's sake.
Teej - November 14, 2008
Bollinger is
a recent journalism grad who’s popped up recently covering several teams for mlb.com
msb - November 15, 2008
How to convince people you're unqualified for your job with words.
BrianL - November 15, 2008
Dear Heavens, NO!!!!
Jeez – someone who’s actually DUMBER than Street?
Heck, give the gig to Divish or something. Or one of out-of-work Times writers…
PositivePaul - November 15, 2008
I'll take that job for half of what they're paying this asshat.
BrianL - November 15, 2008
Remember when we had Brock?
Those were good times. Too brief, I fear.
JY - November 15, 2008
Now we have him down here in S.D.!
Too bad no one alive enjoys reading about the Padres. Because he’s damn solid.
Teej - November 16, 2008
No kidding...
PositivePaul - November 17, 2008
I wonder how long the conversation actually was?
How long does it take to show respect but decline interest?
mark sobba - November 15, 2008
you know those phone calls after bad dates?
The ones that are made out of social obligation, even though you know there won’t be a second date, but you’re just masochistic enough to make the call anyway because you think it’s expected of you? Two minutes of awkward small talk followed by “Well, see you around….”?
This call probably lasted about that long.
pdb - November 15, 2008
Excellent.
Omerta - November 15, 2008
Nice.
mark sobba - November 15, 2008
I don't make these calls.
brayden04 - November 15, 2008
Would you trade Beltre to the Rangers?
Please?
BuckyB - November 15, 2008
No please.
Aaron Campeau - November 15, 2008
If they give us what we want, yes please.
JI - November 15, 2008
What do you want?
oc - November 15, 2008
Just a guess...
Is your last name on the back of your belt?
kevin_ess - November 15, 2008
Wouldn't they have offered Ibanez an extension by now if they wanted him to stay?
I mean they were pretty quick about extending Johjima.
Fin - November 16, 2008
Johima wasn't a front office decision
Robert - November 16, 2008
Just out of curiosity I wandered onto the ESPN hot stove page
And had a really good laugh at what they had for the Mariners projected starters. Apparently Wlad Balentien is going to clone himself and they will be in LF and CF. Bryan LaHair is still at first. And my heartiest laugh….Cesar Jimenez will be catching. I thought we had good depth there? I guess not. God ESPN is dumb.
Scrupio - November 16, 2008
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