To keep the clutter out of other threads. Topics up for grabs:
Even as the Angels continue to pursue Mark Teixeira, it appears that Raul Ibanez has emerged as their No. 1 alternative if Teixeira signs elsewhere. There were indications that the Angels already have begun negotiating the parameters of a deal with Ibanez on a just-in-case basis.
- A.J. Burnett appears headed to a five-year, 85-90 million contract with the Yankees.
- Derek Lowe might also be signed by the Yankees.
- The Yankees are trying to pry Mike Cameron away from the Brewers. The Yankees appear seriously pissed about missing the playoffs.
- The following Mariners were selected away in Rule 5: Miguel Marquez, Gerardo Esparza and Andrew Barb. Yawn.
- Nick Punto gets a two-year, $8.5 million contract?
- Seriously, holy crap are the Tigers retarded.
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The thought of getting the Angels' first round picks fills me with warm, fuzzy feelings.
BrianL - December 11, 2008
Especially Since
They aren’t getting any for Darren Olvier
Trenchtown - December 11, 2008
Looks like we snagged an interesting yet far-too-old for his league LHP in the rule 5 draft
Jose Lugo, we traded with the Royals to get him after they picked him from the Twins. Looks like he’s got some strike out ability—he’s struck out 295 in 300 minor league innings.
I didn’t see anywhere else mentioning this pick, just Ryan and Corona, so sorry if I just missed it.
BrettJMiller - December 11, 2008
Ah, there's the analysis on USSM. LOOGY type with GB tendencies, I guess.
BrettJMiller - December 11, 2008
If Raul was used at 1st or DH wouldn't he be a valuable asset for the Angels?
Robert - December 11, 2008
We have no idea how his defense at 1B would be. He really hasn't played there.
And a lot depends on his contract, but take him out of lefty-friendly SafeCo, and move him to DH, (worth about -1.5 wins on the D spectrum) and he’s got to not collapse to avoid being another bad investment. Plus moving him to DH keeps Vlad in the OF.
Matthew - December 11, 2008
Plus him going to a winner means better picks for us
Bearskin Rugburn - December 11, 2008
Must I remind you that his infield skills equate to less than 0?
Fuzz - December 11, 2008
I'm leaving up my thread that had Arthur Rhodes as the headliner in protest.
JI - December 11, 2008
Also
F Lopez
→ Diamondback→ can make $1.8mHoRam -
Yankees—→ Pisses that they have to give up more than Melky Caberea to land Cameron
JI - December 11, 2008
WHAT THE HELL SBN
JI - December 11, 2008
Consecutive dashes get converted into strike tags
Matthew - December 11, 2008
That's just fruity
JI - December 11, 2008
It makes for an interesting diagram.
.Taylor - December 11, 2008
Prepare to bow down to me
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/12/7/683992/two-draft-picks-ahoy#10516807
JI - December 11, 2008
Mods can mod other people right?
Robert - December 11, 2008
I think so.
JI - December 11, 2008
We will block out the sun.
Robert - December 11, 2008
We?
JI - December 11, 2008
On a scale from from 8 to 10 how persecuted do you want to be when I win my bet in September?
Robert - December 11, 2008
Jeff, Matthew, and Graham are all gonna punch your junk and there's no stopping it
Unless we sign Bradley, Furcal, and possibly Edmonds.. and even then it’s kind of iffy. My advice to strap a bomb to yourself go down to Safeco and start making demands.
JI - December 11, 2008
Plan B!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_July_plot
Robert - December 11, 2008
You're Tom Cruise?
JI - December 11, 2008
In the loco el moco sense.
Robert - December 11, 2008
I thought...
Scruffy was…
THAT’S WHAT I WAS THINKING!!!!
PositivePaul - December 11, 2008
He'd probably head to Qwest and demand that John Carlson sleep with him instead.
BrianL - December 11, 2008
This is more likely
Fuzz - December 11, 2008
God dammit.
Eyebrows - December 11, 2008
But you might get to say "RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL" at games
kentroyals5 - December 11, 2008
"How many "u's" are there in your name?"
“Duh.. Sometimes 5…Sometimes 8”
seamariners85 - December 11, 2008
E-mail exchange with my roommate who's a huge Angels fan
Him: Our second choice after Tex is… Raul Ibanez! LoL!
Me: You’re so screwed
Him: Hahahahaha. Oh wait… yea… we are….
seattlebruin - December 11, 2008
If Raul goes to LAAAAA, can we just transfer
The Takes Pride in His Defense sidebar over to Rev? Or keep it here and constantly mock?
seattlesundevil - December 11, 2008
If Raul goes to LAAAAAA,
Does that mean we go sign Freddy Garcia just to fuck with him?
tkballer22 - December 11, 2008
Contention
I have to wonder why we are still saying we can’t content for the West next year. We’ve fixed every defensive hole not named Yuni, made modest improvements to the offense (simply leaving Sexson and Vidro off the roster accomplished this, not to mention adding Branyan) and our starting pitching should regress for the better next year. We do have holes in the bullpen, but I don’t think those are impossible to overcome.
I think if we signed a good DH (Bradley), signed Fields (to help with the bullpen holes), we would be very, very close to contention. We do still have pieces lying around that are valuable enough to possibly get a new SS, but that would probably be difficult. Orlando Cabrera would be a defensive upgrade, but an offensive nightmare.
What do you guys think? I’ve seen various posts over the last few days that were still Bearish for next year, but this is a very different roster going forth.
batura - December 11, 2008
I don't think we are extremely far away
But a lot of things have to go right next season. None of them are totally outlandish, never gonna happen kind of things, but there are a lot of them nonetheless.
seattlesundevil - December 11, 2008
That is true
I mean, look at some of the teams last year that weren’t bad but got slammed by injuries and under performance. Yankees, especially.
batura - December 11, 2008
It's still more likely than not that Beltre is traded.
Matthew - December 11, 2008
If it lands us a shortstop...
JI - December 11, 2008
Well, yes
That is true. If they do continue to sell, this would probably put an end to 09. Of course, the hope would be that it makes ’10 very strong.
batura - December 11, 2008
We're not going to go after any moderate or big names
From the looks of things, Zduriencik is doing what I was hoping he’d do – build for the future while attempting to field a team in 2009 that can play .500 baseball, and maybe a little more with some good luck. It’s not impossible that we could contend. It’s just not likely, or expected.
Jeff Sullivan - December 11, 2008
Word.
I would rather wait a year or two for a sustainable world series team then rushing out a faux-contender like they did last year and 2007.
Fin - December 11, 2008
haha
The M’s have no offense, no pitching and have now patched themselves up to be maybe a slightly above average defense? Milton Bradley had a good season in Texas, even at DH something is reasonably likely to go wrong with him and he isn’t that good anyway.
The M’s are far and away the worst team in the division. I’ll admit I’m primarily an A’s fan, but I’m also an M’s fan and I’m from Seattle. I can see the reality though, and that is last place unless Texas or Oakland falls apart, unlikely on either end.
ChadGod - December 11, 2008
Well thank the heavens you stopped by to enlighten all of us.
Matthew - December 11, 2008
No pitching?
and no politics
JI - December 11, 2008
okay, 1 pitcher....1 very very good pitcher
ChadGod - December 11, 2008
Bedard, Felix, Washburn, RSS
and then Morrow or Silva
That’s not a bad rotation
JI - December 11, 2008
Bedard isn't pitching for a while.
Eyebrows - December 11, 2008
What is Bedard's timetable for recovery?
I’ve heard everything from “ready by spring training” to “ready by the end of May.”
BrianL - December 11, 2008
I thought he was to be ready by ST
JI - December 11, 2008
My impression was midyear, maybe even past the trade deadline.
I’ll see what I can find.
Eyebrows - December 11, 2008
They said the other day he would be ready for ST
DarkLou - December 11, 2008
I guess you are right
I’d take it with a grain of salt, but they are targeting ST.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081208&content_id=3706474&vkey=news_sea&fext=.jsp&c_id=sea&partnerId=rss_sea
Eyebrows - December 11, 2008
His injury was misdiagnosed
So the original statement that he would be out til July is false.
JI - December 11, 2008
Right
he didn’t have a tear in there, just a ChocoFrosted Sugar Cyst (or whatever folks around here agreed on).
The Ancient Mariner - December 11, 2008
I don’t know if I can take you seriously when you are a) counting on Bedard already, and B) didn’t go with “Washburn or Silva” at the end. Also *RRS is a pretty big question mark with questionable upside, no?
ChadGod - December 11, 2008
Do you know anything about how to evaluate pitchers?
JI - December 11, 2008
Yes, thanks for your hospitable tone though
ChadGod - December 11, 2008
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/12/11/689689/close-of-meetings-rumor-ne#10639604
JI - December 11, 2008
What metrics are you using to come to your conclusions?
BrianL - December 11, 2008
Well, roughly, I'm looking at the expected VORP of your likely starters
and then just crudely factoring in possible areas of likely improvement and taking into account other teams in the division.
If Z pushed it he could make an unlikely challenge for 2nd and a very unlikely challenge for 1st. Clearly, he isn’t going to try, that’s a good thing, and he will probably trade away Beltre and end the remote possibility of contention in doing so. I realize no one is suggesting the M’s are competetive quite yet, so maybe I’ve taken exception to the idea that they are “very close.” Help me understand how they are so close?
Also, I’m not sure how Gutierrez impacts things? (Does that mean OF of Gutierrez, Balentin and Ichiro?)
I might also be biased in my hatred for Carlos Silva and Washburn, but I don’t expect a huge rebound. Him and Wash will benefit from the defensive improvements, but they still stink. What would be an average projection for them, for RRS, for Morrow next year as a starter? Same goes for Bedard. I don’t have the numbers off-hand, but I’m not just spouting off here, I don’t think any decent system has or would project very favorably (as SPs). Sure, there is upside, but what is the 50% likelihood?
I just get the sense that some are expecting the M’s additions and additions by subtractions to pay significant dividends in ‘09, but really both the Rangers and the A’s have loaded farm systems that are likely going to start paying out next year, giving these clubs a mediocre chance at competing with the Angels and leaving the Mariners deep in the cellar. I think Z also sees this fate.
The Angels have a good rotation.
ChadGod - December 11, 2008
Don't use VORP
and especially don’t use VORP for pitchers.
JI - December 11, 2008
I wasnt talking about the pitchers
ChadGod - December 11, 2008
Correct me if I'm wrong, but VORP doesn't work that well with pitchers does it?
BrianL - December 11, 2008
Late.
BrianL - December 11, 2008
If I recall correctly it is based on run average
and that’s a huge no-no
JI - December 11, 2008
RR-S has an upside of a decent #3 starter
a downside of a meh #5 guy or long-relief arm. It’s not like we’re hurting for BOR candidates anyway.
seattlebruin - December 11, 2008
Looks like Tex is gonna end up in Boston
Explain to me again why the West and Central have automatic playoff beths?
JI - December 11, 2008
Ugh, so lame.
Though it never did make sense for the Nationals. Whither Dmitri Young and Nick Johnson (if he’s still alive) ?
Matthew - December 11, 2008
It's dumb, but form their POV
They gotta generate some buzz
JI - December 11, 2008
I'm surprised the Yankees haven't bee in on Manny.
JI - December 11, 2008
It would be awesome to sweep in and get Manny at 2/38 with a third year option at $22M.
Put him at DH and watch our offense go.
But it sounds like GMZ is set on getting a lefty sock to fill the position.
Wilder. - December 11, 2008
The continual building of the team for Safeco is both awesome and strange
A strange new feeling.. hope?
seattlesundevil - December 11, 2008
He's a bad fit for us
but for the Yankees he seems like the perfect DH.
Plus, it would generate excitement among the fans etc.
JI - December 11, 2008
Yeah, it is unfortunate he is a bad fit for us and perfect for NYY.
Wilder. - December 11, 2008
JI - December 11, 2008
Was just readin that too
How an NL team would have any interest is beyond me.
seattlesundevil - December 11, 2008
Please please please someone else sign him quick.
Eyebrows - December 11, 2008
How did we miss the Phillies as the obvious destination?
Pat Gillick’s influence lingers.
Matthew - December 11, 2008
To many damned lefties
Trevor Miller would be Papelbon against that lineup.
JI - December 11, 2008
two
JI - December 11, 2008
too
JI - December 11, 2008
teaux.
PositivePaul - December 11, 2008
Toe?
seattlesundevil - December 11, 2008
tu
Phil Hatzenbuehler - December 11, 2008
Tui
kevin_ess - December 11, 2008
What's the best possible scenario for us, Raul-related draft pick-wise?
Angels?
seattlebruin - December 11, 2008
Best possible and seemingly realistic scenario
seattlebruin - December 11, 2008
Dodgers or D'backs, I believe...
PositivePaul - December 11, 2008
Not the Mets!
And not the Angels if they somehow manage to get Tex.
But yeah, as Paul said, the Dodgers would be the best-case scenario as far as how high the draft pick would be, but it’s gotta be a team that doesn’t sign a higher-ranked free agent. (Though if the Dodgers re-sign Furcal, we’d still be good.)
Teej - December 11, 2008
Dodgers.
Blicks - December 11, 2008
Wait. Diamondbacks.
But they probably won’t sign him.
So Dodgers.
Blicks - December 11, 2008
Mets would be the worst right now.
Since they signed K-Rod, the Angels get their first round draft pick. We’d get the second round.
The Typical Idiot Fan - December 11, 2008
Peavy to the Cubs is dead!
Wooooo
JI - December 11, 2008
Where's the thread on the
big three-way mega trade with Putz etc?
I read about it on Athletics Nation. Came here to see the reactions, but I don’t see a fanpost for it.
iglew - December 11, 2008
Below
seattlesundevil - December 11, 2008
Ah, thanks.
I didn’t recognize it from the title.
iglew - December 11, 2008
Also further below that one
Jeff Sullivan - December 11, 2008
David Samson is talking shit about the CC deal
ahahahaha
“[The Yankees] spend like drunken sailors”
and other stuff about how in these tough times people need to tighten their belts.
JI - December 11, 2008
That's one of few things that Bavasi did right.. Telling off that insane-o
seattlesundevil - December 11, 2008
Bill Bavasi did a hell of a lot of things right
it’s just that properly valuing talent wasn’t one of them… =(
seattlebruin - December 11, 2008
Bavasi was the man
He just couldn’t assemble a quality baseball team
Corco - December 11, 2008
My dad almost rear-ended Bavasi last April.
He was really nice about it, and he’s actually a really funny guy.
Only when we drove away did I realize who we had been talking to.
.Taylor - December 11, 2008
?? Realy? He's got a pretty recognizeable face...
kevin_ess - December 11, 2008
How does a Mariners fan not immediately recognize Bill Bavasi?
Corco - December 11, 2008
And if you almost rear ended him but did not why would you need to get out of the car and talk to him
Corco - December 11, 2008
And why haven't you mentioned it before?
JI - December 11, 2008
I'm thinking it's almost time to call shenanigans
Corco - December 11, 2008
Corcoterragation success
Dewey N - December 11, 2008
If you're going to lie you may as well not leave a bunch of obvious plot gaps for us to exploit
Corco - December 11, 2008
The fuck?
I’m not lying. After almost hitting him, we rolled down our window to say sorry, and he laughed it off and it was all good. I haven’t mentioned it before because there was never a need to mention it.
.Taylor - December 11, 2008
How do you possibly draw that he's a really funny guy based on him laughing and saying "it's all good"
I’d expect 99% of the population would do that because basically nobody rolls down their window to apologize for almost hitting somebody, especially from the rear where he probably didn’t know you almost hit him anyway
Corco - December 11, 2008
I saw him in public once and couldn't look away
It’s a unique face.
JI - December 11, 2008
Anti HD face.
kevin_ess - December 11, 2008
I saw him in the Safeway in Queen Anne
right before the Bedard trade went through. I thought about having one of the checkers page Adam Jones to the front of the store.
Eyebrows - December 11, 2008
Would have been better to phone an ambulance to the store for Erik Bedard.
Matthew - December 11, 2008
I saw him once while watching Young Frankenstein
in the theater and also going into the bathroom at the very end of intermission. He’s kind of hard to miss.
greymstreet - December 11, 2008
I saw him at FanFest once
Corco - December 11, 2008
I once told him that I was glad that the team was letting him stick around for the 2007 season.
Robert - December 11, 2008
You shouldn't admit things like that
Corco - December 11, 2008
This isn't ringing any bells, what was this all about?
A couple quick google searches are netting my bupkis.
dpseadv - December 11, 2008
"netting me" I should say.
dpseadv - December 11, 2008
After Seattle gave Ichiro that contract extension
Florida GM David Samson flipped a tizzy for some, inexplicable reason. Bavasi responded by saying
BrianL - December 11, 2008
Hahahahahaha! Now I remember! That was brilliant
I was thinking of Dave Sampson in the context of a reporter from the way the original comment was phrased, one I made that mistake I couldn’t put that together. Thanks.
dpseadv - December 11, 2008
Here's what Samson said. Via Ted Miller at the P-I:
Teej - December 11, 2008
As much as I respect the Mariners for being able to make something out of a little.
This guy seriously needs to shut up or retire. I mean, they’re getting their stadium soon, they will be able to spend like everyone else then.
Fin - December 11, 2008
Respect the Marlins****
Wow, I hope that wasn’t a freudian slip.
Fin - December 11, 2008
[expletive] Dave Samson.
That dipshit couldn’t get a job selling stale beer at a Marlins game if his father-in-law didn’t own the team.
Mr. Samson: In tough times, YOU need to tighten your belt, because you run a shitty business. If you want to tell other people how much money they can spend, ask pops to go buy an NFL team.
Teej - December 11, 2008
Andrew Barb?
Does he even still play baseball? I couldn’t find any stats on him from last year…
MiLB link
After the Moyer trade I tried to keep tabs on him and Baldwin…see if either of them do anything…
appleshampoo - December 11, 2008
Now you can't make any more front page posts.
TWSG must stay above the line.
Faux - December 11, 2008
Well..looks like the Royals may turn HoRam back into a starter...weeee
kentroyals5 - December 11, 2008
I hope our schedule aligns with this idea.
Wilder. - December 11, 2008
Ho shut us down last year.
Robert - December 11, 2008
Some AAA teams, a cup of coffee, and a jelly donut could have randomly shut us down last year.
Torches are out of style now, but I would like to see some payback on HORAM.
dpseadv - December 11, 2008
Beltre added Twins to his partial no-trade list?
Does that even make sense?
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/2008/12/11/beltre_added_notrade_clause_wi.html
Eyebrows - December 11, 2008
Makes a ton of sense
Makes sure that he would get compensation for the move. Just like Washburn → Yankees that Chuck cockblocked last year.
batura - December 11, 2008
Right, but if you can change the teams on a partial no-trade list
You could make it work like a full no-trade then. That’s the part that doesn’t make sense.
Eyebrows - December 11, 2008
Or
It could be that the the partial list has a maximum amount of teams and a maximum number of additions/subtractions. I can guarantee that the contracts written for these situations have every possible scenario covered.
TheTank123 - December 11, 2008
Could be that he can change them at the end of the season or something
and that after hearing his name in rumors to the Twins during the season he changed it right after
seattlebruin - December 11, 2008
Minnesota sucks, as does playing on turf.
JI - December 11, 2008
Beltre takes the infield, Carlos Gomez in the outfield. You wouldn't even have to play anyone else in the field.
abender20 - December 11, 2008
Yes you would, the seven automatic outs would kill the offense
JI - December 11, 2008
You could have 7 other players in the lineup.
They just would play defense in an extreme shift known as “Sitting on their asses somewhere.”
Eyebrows - December 11, 2008
Ah, the Raul shift.
Graham MacAree - December 11, 2008
Seven Nick Puntos
seattlebruin - December 11, 2008
Turns out seven Nick Puntos would cost you quite a bit of money
Jeff Sullivan - December 11, 2008
They'd also be really good at defense.
Matthew - December 11, 2008
Probably not at catcher
Jeff Sullivan - December 11, 2008
Nick Punto is pretty good at catching Nick Punto.
Nick Punto does a good job of being a mentor and a veteran figure to Nick Punto.
Matthew - December 11, 2008
So basically if it were a team of all Nick Puntos, Nick Punto would be a pretty good player
seattlebruin - December 11, 2008
Eyeballing it, I'd call him roughly average
DCMariner - December 11, 2008
That reminds me of that scene in Being John Malkovich
Scrupio - December 11, 2008
Punto... Punto Punto Punto.
Two Rs and Two Ls - December 11, 2008
Seven Adam Everetts would be nuch cheaper.
JI - December 11, 2008
But slightly less effective with a bat
Fuzz - December 11, 2008
Run the numbers
go go go
JI - December 11, 2008
Wouldn't Adrian need a first baseman to throw to?
I know he’s great and all, but running really fast wasn’t his strong suit last time I checked
seattlebruin - December 11, 2008
That's where Gomez's speed comes in
On any ball hit to Beltre, Gomez covers all necessary bases.
ubelmann - December 11, 2008
I never know who to blame
for the Yankees hype machine , but Melky shouldn’t get that deal even close to done. UZR has him a exactly average, PMR essentially the same a CF. His bat was piss poor by whatever metric you care to choose from. I’m assuming he is a super two, what is the upside for the Brewers in this deal? Brewers are better off keeping Cameron
Trenchtown - December 11, 2008
According to a blub at BtB King of the Moutain Kyle Farnsworth is a Royal
JI - December 11, 2008
Farnsworth is such a fucking slut
Corco - December 11, 2008
Hilarious
Goose - December 11, 2008
I would love that more than I can express
Jeff Sullivan - December 11, 2008
I would miss him high-fiving fans, pointing at baseballs that get behind him, and falling on baseballs that he misplays.
kentroyals5 - December 11, 2008
Things that will never happen,
this.
JI - December 11, 2008
I can't believe the Yankees aren't floating an offer.
JI - December 11, 2008
You don't say
Jeff Sullivan - December 11, 2008
Looks to me like I just said it.
JI - December 11, 2008
Seriously?
JI - December 11, 2008
I don't even get what they're going for
Jeff Sullivan - December 11, 2008
Rhymes are neat?
.Taylor - December 11, 2008
Alliteration?
JI - December 11, 2008
Well, technically that would be internal/slant rhyme.
.Taylor - December 11, 2008
Owned!
Dewey N - December 11, 2008
This is the worst day of my life.
JI - December 11, 2008
It's neither
internal rhymes can only be within a larger framework of rhyming syllables; here there are two. A slant rhyme is an imperfect one, whereas good wood is about as rhymey as you can get. You gotta stay in school, son.
Bearskin Rugburn - December 11, 2008
Good thing I screenshotted this before you commented.
.Taylor - December 12, 2008
I think it's been obvious for a while
the site is run by 15 year-olds. I’m pretty sure Jim Street get’s dropped off at work with a brown bag lunch.
Bearskin Rugburn - December 11, 2008
Jm Street is the kindly grandpa who can't quite recall where he set that brown bag down
msb - December 11, 2008
I think I'm that grandpa
get’s? what the eff? I hate that mistake. Drives me crazy. I wish the grammar gestapo on this site would go after the improper apostrophe instead of capitalization.
Bearskin Rugburn - December 11, 2008
You misspelled fuck, grandpa!
I agree that the ridiculous use of the apostrophe today is a bigger sin to the language, but I don’t think a baseball blog is going to be any substitute for what people should have learned in school. Our rantings probably wouldn’t do much good. Not capitalizing anything, however, is just laziness and disrespect to the the people who have to read it. That’s more frustrating to me.
And since this is a bit of an open thread, pardon me for putting in one of my favorite Dirty Work quotes:
Teej - December 11, 2008
Excellent film
Bearskin Rugburn - December 11, 2008
Yes!
Teej - December 11, 2008
That's one of my favorite terrible movies.
JI - December 11, 2008
Yes!
Teej - December 11, 2008
It's quite hard to italicize it properly.
It’s a vocal joke.
Teej - December 11, 2008
Norm MacDonald is the shit.
JI - December 11, 2008
Absolutely.
His turn on the roast of Bob Saget was one of funniest things I’ve ever seen. And the entire audience was silent. So brave to do something like that.
Teej - December 11, 2008
Hilarious
JI - December 11, 2008
They wanna murder you in a well.
Link, in case anyone cares what we’re talking about.
Teej - December 11, 2008
I am glad I watched that
that was the one part I missed when I was watching the Roast a few weeks ago.
Jeff Sullivan - December 11, 2008
I'm a sucker for roasts, but I understand how horribly predictable they are, and how lame most of the comedians are.
And that came out of nowhere and just killed me.
Teej - December 11, 2008
Just a massive send-up of the entire audience and Comedy Central.
Pretty much, “Let’s see if these people will laugh at anything that isn’t a ‘saggy vagina’ joke.”
I love Norm so much.
Teej - December 11, 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLkdSDAw1gU
The end is pure gold
JI - December 11, 2008
Holy shit
The Chairman of the Board stuff on Conan was unbelievable. I had never seen that. I’ve seen the View interview a couple times, but that was insane on Conan. Just deriding another guest’s upcoming movie.
He is my hero.
(And I am one of the five people on Earth who saw that Carrot Top movie, and it deserves every joke that was made about it before and after its release.)
Teej - December 11, 2008
Favorite Norm moment
when he came back to SNL to host the show.
Audio only sorry
Bearskin Rugburn - December 12, 2008
Cloris Leachman was fantastic
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
Yes, she was.
I’m glad they gave her that much airtime. She got more than anyone else, if I’m not mistaken.
Teej - December 11, 2008
Jayson Stark throwing a guess out there of Non-Tenders..
Takashi Saito in the list.. Daniel Cabrera too – Some interesting names.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3763719&name=winter_meetings_2008
seattlesundevil - December 11, 2008
I would like Thames, Cabrera, Gross and Gomes please.
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
I guess Cabrera would be dumb since we have starting pitchers coming out of our ears
but I have a blind spot for pitchers that should be better than they actually are because I’m kind of an idiot.
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
Cabrera's velocity is also way down from what it used to be
FB has lost 4 MPH from three years ago, and slider has lost 6 MPH. It might be interesting to see what he could do as a reliever, though.
ubelmann - December 11, 2008
Yeah, if he's open to it I'd go for it.
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
Jeff Sullivan - December 11, 2008
that's not Dontrelle
JI - December 11, 2008
...
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
lol take out the kind of
Dewey N - December 11, 2008
We don't really like AIM-speak like "lol" here at Lookout Landing.
Perhaps you should take a look at the Lookout Landing Style Guide.
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
k douche
Dewey N - December 11, 2008
I find Saito, Gross, Yates, and Thames to be interesting.
JI - December 11, 2008
Thames seems almost like a no brainer.
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
How's Thames on defense? Seems like he'd make a pretty good DH.
.Taylor - December 11, 2008
Not very good.
He’d be an okay stopgap at DH and a decent guy to have on a rebuilding team that’s trying to not look horrible.
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
Thames can't hit right handers, but if he's cheap
at worst you could platoon him with Branyan.
JI - December 11, 2008
A person can use the word platoon with the M's now, and be serious.
I like that a lot more than words can express.
dpseadv - December 11, 2008
Same.
Wilkerson/Morse just doesn’t cut it.
.Taylor - December 12, 2008
I'd like Gross more than Endy Chavez.
tait644 - December 11, 2008
Nothing says you can't have both.
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
Ichiro, Gut, Wlad, Gross, AND Endy?
Makes for a pretty full allotment of OFs.
tait644 - December 11, 2008
Teams usually carry 5
JI - December 11, 2008
Yes, but
usually the fifth doesn’t get a ton of PT. Each of those guys would warrant some serious PT.
tait644 - December 11, 2008
Yeah it would suck to have actual depth.
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
I have complete faith in Zduriencik to gather up some cheap talent
Dewey N - December 11, 2008
Only because Jeff does
JI - December 11, 2008
There are worse reasons
Jeff Sullivan - December 11, 2008
Like what?
JI - December 11, 2008
Only because Coach does
Jeff Sullivan - December 11, 2008
John Olerud was a saint!
Dewey N - December 11, 2008
It's the quiet ones that are frightening
JI - December 11, 2008
John Olerud looks like he played four square on his wife everynight.
Robert - December 11, 2008
Four square is fun as shit.
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
Pffft 2 square FTW
Goose - December 11, 2008
But then fewer people get to join in the fun!
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
This coming season will make up for all of the pain endured last season
Dewey N - December 11, 2008
The sane person in me knows that I'm stupid,
but I love Daniel Cabrera.
Teej - December 11, 2008
I was just talking about how this is one of my favorite LLimages the othernight
Robert - December 11, 2008
Classic.
I laughed so hard when I saw that. Of course, just to spite what we know about baseball skills and make us look dumb, the M’s tore Cabrera up that day, if I remember correctly.
Teej - December 11, 2008
That's a shitload of walks.
.Taylor - December 12, 2008
tehehehehehe
Robert - December 11, 2008
Remember how DoV had a huge hard on for him
yeah that was awesome. However bad Bavasi did, he tried to do much, much worse.
Bearskin Rugburn - December 11, 2008
The Red Sox also have new road unis
Robert - December 11, 2008
not sure I like them
Dewey N - December 11, 2008
It's a merger of last year's and the ones from the 80s.
They kinda suck. No red?
JI - December 11, 2008
Yeah
I actually really liked their recent aways
Robert - December 11, 2008
I'm not a fan of any grey unis
Dewey N - December 11, 2008
The Cardinals have terrible away unis
JI - December 11, 2008
If I were the M's I'd use the old good version of the navy top
(not the new gay one with mismatched fonts) on the road.
JI - December 11, 2008
Que?
Grays are fantastic.
Robert - December 11, 2008
Wrong
JI - December 11, 2008
And the new hat is the most whiggerrffic thing ever.
Robert - December 11, 2008
pics?
JI - December 11, 2008
Robert - December 11, 2008
Bleh
Aaron Campeau - December 11, 2008
I kinda think they're ok as an alternate
JI - December 11, 2008
GS52 approved!
kentroyals5 - December 11, 2008
Whoa.
Yuk shaved, David Ortiz got old, and izzat Dwight Evans?!
The Typical Idiot Fan - December 11, 2008
This looks like a baseball uniform.
I simply have no eye for these changes. These guys could wear clown shoes and red wigs and I wouldn’t notice.
Teej - December 11, 2008
so is that the only time we see Tito in a jersey this year?
msb - December 11, 2008
Raul to the Phillies - Done Deal
Reported by ESPN.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3764268
Stampede6 - December 12, 2008
perfect
Bearskin Rugburn - December 12, 2008
Wooooo
.Taylor - December 12, 2008
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