"I've been talking to Jerry a lot," Bruce said Friday at Redsfest. "He should come back. He'd play center, lead off, and we'd win."
Bruce said Hairston is considering Seattle and Philadelphia as well as the Reds.
Hairston's coming off a big bounceback season with the Reds, in which he batted .326 over 300 PAs with reasonable power and versatility and excellent speed. It was exactly the sort of season he needed, as his awful spells in 2006 and 2007 threatened to bring a premature end to his career.
However, as much as last year represented a departure from Hairston's recent past, it was fueled by an unsustainable .361 BABIP and 27.5% LD%. Hitting the ball on a line is great and all, but Hairston's career BABIP is .288, and it's unlikely that he suddenly learned how to hit like a superstar at age 32. It's more likely that his true talent level lies closer to his .260/.330/.370 career slash stats. And that, of course, is a few miles below where Hairston ended up in 2008.
Which isn't real bad for a backup, mind you. It's just a lot more human. Were Hairston to end up with Seattle, I imagine he'd take over as both middle infield insurance and the 5th OF. I know we just grabbed Reegie Corona in the Rule 5 Draft, but I don't think anyone's looking for him to get 200 at bats, so this team needs to find someone who can be counted on to back up Betancourt and Lopez in the event that one of them gets hurt or needs a day off. And while I'm not sold that Hairston's bat is any better than Tuglett's, Hairston offers a little more versatility, so whatever. It's a minor role, but a necessary one, and it's not like Hairston would cost us a fortune. No matter how this turns out, I don't particularly care either way.
Fun fact: Jerry Hairston Jr. is an infield pop-up machine. Nothing quite like a veteran to put Lopez and Betancourt in their place.
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Is Hairston still a decent fielder at 2nd?
I wouldn’t be surprised if this were a precursor to a Loafie trade.
JI - December 13, 2008
He could be in the -5 0 range but he hasn't played there regularly since 2002
Jeff Sullivan - December 13, 2008
-5 to 0 range
Jeff Sullivan - December 13, 2008
+4.9 lifetime according to UZR!
JI - December 13, 2008
Add in aging and regression
and that’s probably -5 to 0. Oh, Lopez is +.03 according to UZR.
chrisisasavage - December 13, 2008
Well yeah, there's basically no data to go off
that isn’t 6 years old
JI - December 13, 2008
The competitive part of me wants to sign Furcal and Bradley
becuase
1) those are our two biggest lineup needs
2) the money isn’t outrageous (allegedly)
3) both of them are good bets to still be positives in 2-3 years
4) the division will probably blow
I can’t help but think that it would restrict the budget in the future, but at the same it’s not a horrible idea to buy when the going rate is less than we thought it would be.
How bad of an idea is this?
JI - December 13, 2008
Both
are also good bets to get hurt, especially Bradley. Furcal could be a steal or an albatross depending on whether 2008 was a blip or the beginning of the injury bug.
chrisisasavage - December 13, 2008
Not bad at all
Although I’m not sure if Furcal’s money isn’t outrageous if he really did walk away from Oakland’s offer. Last speculation I heard on specific terms was 4/44, although that was with regards to what the Royals would need to go. I don’t like that for Furcal.
I’m fully on board for Bradley though. Marcel projects him for only a slight regression and while he’d probably DH, he hasn’t been terrible in the field, although it’s been a small sample size as far as the last few years go, so it’s tough to say if those numbers are reliable enough or not.
edddgar - December 13, 2008
If you could add Furcal's D at SS, plus the new outstanding OF defense and improved 1B D
and keep Beltre, perhaps you can wring a good year out of Silva and then get out of his contract, which would offset the cost of signing Furcal!
Matthew - December 13, 2008
Ha
I’m wondering if that proposed team could win more than 83 games
JI - December 13, 2008
I think so
We’re not far from .500 now.
chrisisasavage - December 13, 2008
What's the deal with Furcal's defense?
PMR and UZR aren’t really big fans of him. Kind of a moot point given the fact that he’d clearly be an upgrade both offensively and defensively over Betancourt, regression or not.
edddgar - December 14, 2008
He's about average
used to be 0 – +5, now more like -5 – +5, but that’s still a win better than Yuni without factoring in the league average bat and whatever Yuni or Lopez could net us on the trade market.
Bearskin Rugburn - December 14, 2008
Funny thing about that is
With the new 1B/DH platoon, and the few moves that have been made, this is already a considerably better team than was fielded last year. A big improvement at short and a serious DH bat should make them a much better contender than they were last year when they were the ‘team to beat’. The only facet of the club that hasn’t improved is the bullpen, which… you never know. Sometimes your JJs have shitty seasons, and sometimes your Mark Lowes have awesome ones.
Bearskin Rugburn - December 14, 2008
AAA filler?
Or does he stay up with the club while Tuglet goes down to play second base? Tacoma doesn’t really have a second bagger now with Valbuena being traded and Chen being claimed.
The Typical Idiot Fan - December 14, 2008
I don't think he'd sign with us to be filler.
Probably the 2nd scenario you mentioned.
Omerta - December 14, 2008
When you said 'not done yet'
I was hoping it meant something bigger than Hairston because let’s face it unless you’re working on wins 88-92 it just doesn’t really matter who your 25th man is does it?
Bearskin Rugburn - December 14, 2008
The depth can't hurt
Especially if this is a precursor to a Lopez or Betancourt trade.
JLC - December 14, 2008
How many borderline middle infielders do you need
before you’ve got enough depth even in case of a trade? I’d rather they work on a more permanent solution. Anyway, the guy looks like a born NLer to me.
Bearskin Rugburn - December 14, 2008
as evidenced last year
having surplus major league quality players is a good thing
Corco - December 14, 2008
That's why I mentioned above the loss of Valbuena and Chen
Someone’s going down to Tacoma.
The Typical Idiot Fan - December 14, 2008
"Redsfest"?
Almost as bad as “Lolla-Blue-Za”?
JLC - December 14, 2008
Hopefully retired forever in shame.
I know some Halo fans are similiarly calling that weekend “the red moon massacre.”
Omerta - December 14, 2008
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Dewey N - December 14, 2008
I don't get this.
Milwaukee can contend, no? Mike Cameron’s coming off a damn good year, and he’s underpaid. The Brewers have to see that. They’re pretty smart dudes. Unless we stole all the smart ones.
Seems that if they were willing to put up $100+ million for Sabathia, they could spend $10 million for a few wins in 2009.
Then again, with Sheets and CC gone, maybe they don’t think they can make the playoffs.
Teej - December 14, 2008
The Brewers can suck it
JI - December 14, 2008
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