Lookout Landing

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/rss/fanposts

All of my tizzies are currently upright,

but are ready to be flipped at a moments notice if need be. Be warned

DCMariner - March 26, 2008 reply

Maybe I'm blinded by the shiny new layout

but I can't figure out where the rss feed is for the fanposts.

timc - March 26, 2008 reply

we don't have it displayed anywhere yet, but soon will

for now here is the URL:

thanks

I can sleep easy tonight

timc - March 26, 2008 reply

Random and not very important

But clicking on a player's name on the roster just brings you to a pretty boring blank page. Can we edit this (if we can, I have no idea how)? It would be cool to mention player nicknames, community projections, and all of that.

Just some local flavour.

any stories, fanposts and fanshots

that are associated with that player will be displayed on the page

when you create a new one of those, just type the name of the player into the field that says 'type player name here' and an auto-complete box will drop down where you can select the player you want your post to be associated with.

same goes for teams and games (using the attach event tool)

we'd like to add tools for y'all to easily add other information, but we're not quite there yet.

Brilliant, thank you

Yeah with these template fixes

I think I should be able to adjust and be happy with this within a week.

Thanks SBNDevs

Corco - March 26, 2008 reply

Reading about a beer thread

made me think of something I recently tried for the first time. Anderson Valley Brewing Company. It was about $4 a bottle for a 22 or 24oz at a Beaverton, OR Hagen for the Oatmeal Stout and it was delicious.

I also realized that I'd rather buy one $7 24oz beer instead of a $7 6 pack. I don't know if it is an age or parent thing or what. I guess I'm not interested in getting wasted, but a little buzz with good flavor is what I like now.

Jed MC - March 26, 2008 reply

I like flavor. And getting wasted

Which is why the perfect combination consecutive liter mugs - last time it was Newcastle followed by Blue Moon.

I don't get wasted because I have a pregnant wife who doesn't drive

and a 3 year old. Too much responsibility ... but your idea does sound intriguing.

Jed MC - March 26, 2008 reply

Thank you

although it's hard to take credit for originality - I'm sure someone before me thought of the idea of consuming large quantities of beer and getting trashed.

Also, I'm 22 and like to pretend I'm still in college, so uh... not so much responsibility =)

How do I

embed a youtube video... or is that no longer an option?

currently these are not allowed in comments while we try to improve performance in long threads

But it will comeback?

right? please god tell me its going to comeback

Oh my god

I can't live without your in-season weekly video previews!

Field Gulls will never be the same :(

By the way, I'll re-state this:

for those of you who hate the term "FanPosts", keep in mind that we've grown accustomed to terms as silly as "Diaries", "Blog", and "Fantasy" baseball.

You'll get used to it in no time.

I can stay pissed off for a long time if I have to

FanPosts is MuchStupider

than "Diaries" EverWas.

Here's the thing

Does the name really matter? I mean, yeah, it's kind of silly, but I come here for the content, not the fantastically named site components

Sportszilla - March 26, 2008 reply

Yes

Has anyone ever pointed out to you that your initials spell the word "gym"?

If not, let me be the first

One of my goals in life

Is to donate £1M to college on the condition that they name the building next to the gym the GYM building.

I hope it confuses people.

As long as it's the engineering building

I think it would be funny for the ballers to head to the GYM building and instead of courts, find large, colorful posters about subjects like drag calculations at variable Mach #s/Reynolds#s and such.

Sure, but

Wouldn't it be even better to have them as far apart as possible? Not only do they get sucked into the world of engineering, when they realize their dumb mistake they have to walk all the way across campus to get to the gym building...

thejew4u - March 26, 2008 reply

But it would also be funny when the engineers dragged their laptops to the gym

oh wait... I actually used to do that...

Gym?

What's a gym? Oh... a gym.

Fan Posts is fine

But Fan Shots seems kinda lame

Agreed.

Eh. New format is okay.

That said, I think the transition has given me back spasms.

Nice to see all the managers added below

but only Graham has his email listed there. Way to be fearless Graham, that's the backbone of leadership!

jeffs avitar iz retarded!!!

As soon as I find a way to turn on widescreen I'll be pretty happy.

Ehhhh

Skeptical face.

BHP - March 26, 2008 reply

LL 2.0

I would also like to thnk Trei and the gang for hanging out and checking out our feedback.

Now that I've played with it a little while I just wanted to comment on a few things.

Auto-Refresh: Man, this rocks. Being able to see comments without having to manually refresh all the time is an awesome change of pace and provides a different dynamic to game threads which are basically like chat rooms anyhow. Also good for hot topics. I've really gotten used to the 'z' command to check out new comments.

Also, nice to see new comments pop up as I'm preparing my posts. There's a big difference between seeing what is said at the time and seeing what is being said as it happens.

Mandatory Preview: I've talked about it a few times but honestly, just about any post that's longer than a few words I use Preview anyway and I ALWAYS use it when I post a picture or a link. On that front, this new system is a massive upgrade. For me, making previews optional would only be a marginal upgrade. I'm okay with this.

FanPosts: I don't really care. "Diaries" are no better than "FanPosts" to me. Don't bother me none. Next.

Auto-Refresh rate: Developers currently set this to 20 seconds. So far so good. Works great on non-game threads. I'll see how good this is on the opening day game thread with TEX vs. SEA. I still think everyone is better off with 10 seconds unless it bogs down the system but I'll see how it does myself first.

I'll probably have thoughts of the rest of the stuff as I use it more.

ThundaPC - March 26, 2008 reply

I want to say this again because I think it's important:

When you link to a comment or subthread, instead of opening by itself, it opens and loads the entire thread before moving to the right comment.

We link to comments like this a lot, and having to load an entire game thread just to see 5 words of Robert being really angry is going to be a pain in the ass.

Agreed.

Without this a lot of our discussion will be hampered.

Also, lack of embedded videos = not as much fun. Over at Field Gulls it's going to be extremely hard to do the weekly video previews. I know that doesn't pertain to this site, but it's still an annoyance.

Since I do the video previews

I may drink myself into a coma because of this

But the new comment thingy in the bottom of the screen is pretty cool

So far, not bad

It feels slicker and smoother. The comments handling - autorefresh, and the keyboard shortcuts - is really nice.

I actually don't mind the yellow highlighting of new comments. It's not really a screaming yellow, it's more of a soft post-it yellow, which is pretty typical for "alert" messages. Anything darker than the yellow might make the text hard to read unless you invert the text, which might be pretty annoying.

It's also nice that I've done all of one Dia ... I mean, FanPost, and yet my login was reserved.

Graham - nice avatar choice.

Since we can ignore avatars

am I allowed to upload one now? I have avatars turned off, but I really don't like the default one on my profile page and I'd like to change it.

Incidentally, I ask permission because when I rejoined the blog there was a fairly strong warning about using them...not that it seems to have stopped some people. >_>;

TheOptimist - March 26, 2008 reply

At the risk of incurring Jeff's fury ...

From what I read in the other thread, the fact that readers can opt out of seeing them makes uploading one okay. Or at least so it seems. Like you, I hated the one on my profile page.

But ...

Even if this is true, I call for immediate beheading, incineration, and defenstration (all at once?) for anybody who uses an animated avatar.

I have no problems with that.

TheOptimist - March 26, 2008 reply

One more thing about FanShots...

I notice that I can post an img URL, but I can't post a link to the original. I upload a lot to Flickr these days, and I'd like to just keep files managed there, but according to the Flickr TOS, I need to be able to link back to the original. I s'pose I could put the link in the description, but it'd be nice if the IMG URL field allowed for limited HTML (i.e. A HREF).

I use flickr all the time too

And I didn't even know that was in the TOS. What they don't know won't hurt 'em...

chaney - March 26, 2008 reply

No 300c limit on diaries, WOOOOOOOO!

that's a bug, not a feature

but it's a good thing

Call it a feature and take the credit for it.

These live updating posst scare the bejeezus out of me.

BOO!

sweet fancy Jesus knock it off

HAHA

these comments are awesome

leave it in

Or leave in a way around it...

Yeah!

I'm not sure that works anymore

you'll need to adjust that entry accordingly

I suspect you've just disappointed

several dozen people. :P

TheOptimist - March 26, 2008 reply

My avatar is a subtle

Mitch Hedberg joke

A beer for the first person who gets it

I just changed my avatar...

Ed Weston would be proud. Or would sue me for idea-infringement...

I hate picketing, I just don't know how to show it.

???

BrettJMiller - March 26, 2008 reply

Question

Can you claim two accounts from the old format, and then merge them into one account on the new one?

yes

From the same blog?

If so this is going to be helpful to those users who didn't realize that putting three capital Ks in the screenname was a poor decision

yes, BUT

everytime you claim another old blog account it's going to overwrite the information in your LL blog membership box on your profile. so if you do plan to do this, you should claim your "main" account last. I wouldn't recommend doing this unless you really, really want to claim all those other comments and diaries.

I claimed two accounts from old LL

didn't seem to effect anything.

I know who you are!!

*intense spooky horror move stare*

BrettJMiller - March 26, 2008 reply

Weird back arrow behavior

If I am on the page, watching comments come in, click on somebody's profile, then click "back" to come back to the comment thread, the page I come back to is an older version of the page I left.

In other words, the comments I'd previously seen flood in are missing when I come back. Then they show up again as new a little while later.

I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.12 on XP SP2.

I just did the same thing

but when I came back, comments that were new, or yellow, were just white now. I'm opting to use the right click "open in a new tab" feature if I want to open someone's avatar from now on.

Yep, not a big deal ...

Just wanted to let people know.

If you're using Firefox (sounds like you are)

you can just click down on your mouse's scroll wheel and it automatically opens whatever you're clicking on in a new tab.

Hey, that works in Explorer too!

Thank god Microsoft steals every good idea out there!

Or, with no wheel

click the left and right buttons simultaneously, in Firefox or IE

david h - March 26, 2008 reply

Command-click, too

Or for you Windows slaves, ctrl-click...

yeah I had this happen too

though it's not really that big of a deal. I can always just tab open someone's profile, rather than navigating away from the current page.

and I fail at the reply button

this was re: Weird back arrow behavior

I'm not going to lie

This whole blog system is pretty impressive

but only if you fix the embed problem

Sweet!

I love this new uploading of comments! Is this AJAX?

(FYI: I know almost nothing about programming)

This isn't AJAX, it's Iowa

IOWA IS AWESOME

THEREFORE AJAX IS AWESOME

Corco - March 26, 2008 reply

I hear Iowa's roads

all lead directly to Michigan.

Iowa, huh?

Never heard of it. What is the difference?

Whoops!

The site may have changed, but old habits haven't.

the difference is

one's a programming language and another's a Midwestern state. It was a Field of Dreams reference.

See, I told you I know nothing about programming.

Can you say ignorant and gullible?

This is kinda nitpicky, but at the top

where it shows the number of comments, it doesn't auto update with the comments - I have to manually refresh to see how many comments are actually in the thread.

I was just noticing the same thing

Banner ads

This is a lingering problem from the old site, and I thought it went away with the new upload, but apparently not: it just took a while to show up.

When I'm on my work browser (IE 6.0), LL will randomly crash my browser while loading a page. When this first happened, I originally pegged the problem as a bad script in one of the ads, Jeff originally assumed it was an external poll that had been posted, but it's actually continued since then, to where I stopped loading this blog at work because re-opening my browser and re-logging into things was so annoying. This only happens on IE 6.0. I've managed to get far enough this time to load the main page and post this comment, but I'd be that another 4-5 page loads and it'll happen again.

And now, here it is again. Perhaps, among the other tasks, someone can look into the flash ads and see which of the ads would cause such a thing.

Gomez - March 26, 2008 reply

New FanPosts are also hard to spot.

Yeah, they need a highlight too

I think this was brought up in the other thread

but I'll make sure we've got a feature request ticket logged for it

I'm already a fan of the new layout.

Thank god the development team has fixed a lot of the annoying bugs.

Just a few more tweaks and we'll have ourselves a nice little place here.

Now that I haven't pitched a fit, I want a pony.

Is there a way to build the comment section so that clicking on the new comment count ("4 new" or whatever the number happens to be) on the main page takes you to the first new comment, instead of to the first comment in the thread?

By the way, Trei, I really, really am impressed with the transition and how it's been handled - if I could only get the wide view to persist I'd be a happy bastard indeed.

we've heard that request before

and I personally like the idea too - would be super cool. I'll log a feature request ticket for that.

oh, and

could you make the "new" behavior consistent between FanShots and MainPosts - currently you can't click on "(x) new" in main page posts at all, where clicking on "(x) new" in the FanShots takes you to the first comment.

we're aware of this one, and it'll be changed soon

thanks for pointing it out

So far so good, from my standpoint

I had a bit of a problem when registering, it was my own fault, and Trei and the guys got to it lightening fast and fixed it for me.

First impressions are important to me. I didn't think anything would take away the bitter taste of this new layout but my first impression of Trei and his crew has more than done that.

Excited to see how this thing develops!

CKremer - March 26, 2008 reply

This really blows a lot less than I thought it would

Dammit.

I just hit "c" on another site, expecting it to take me to the next comment...

why do you visit other sites?

leaving the warm embrace of LL for the outside world scares me.

Baseball isn't my only drug...

I tried to wean myself off baseball by using photography, but that didn't work so well. Now I'm freebasing both of them together...

yeah me too...

oh, wait... photography... nevermind, i thought you said something else

thenatural - March 26, 2008 reply

Um.

im not wearing my contacts right now

i have an internet addiction as well, and it kind of looks like photography, but more embarrassing

thenatural - March 26, 2008 reply

we do the same thing all the time now

sorry guys

i know this is going to ruin your lives forever, but i will not longer be known as 'Scruffy Righty' due to the whole universial ID thingy.

it was a fun ride. this is my new name. and because i can just visit you guys from a drop down menu under my name now, i might visit more often because i don't actually have to type www.lookoutlanding.com in my address bar anymore. it's just a simple click away.

HAHAHA

Hey another Cards fan, woo!

why do you like cards fans?

I prefer my own kind.

you're a cards fan?

uh huh

SWEET!

we should bond and create pro-cardinals shit all over this board.

That's not a good idea.

says you.

Yep

nope.

there is a much better place for that

right here

i know man

i was joking.

yeah, I know, I was just pimping the network

VEB is a great blog

agreed.

LB is one of your best.

I thnk most the commenter there wouldn't last 10 minutes over here

Graham needs to take them to boot camp.

why do you say this?

btw, i like this whole not having to refresh the page thing.

pick any from

our lewdness/ pessimism/ tRA

you guys are lewd

but larry doesn't put up with lewd shit.

We don't put up with stupid

FUCK TLR REYES SHOULD BE PITCHING TODD WELLEMEYER SUXS

todd wellemeyer sucks

the bullpen will pitch more innings than wellemeyer will in 75% of his starts.

He averaged less than 5 innings a start

actually, it could be the worst roation in Baseball.

meh.

maybe until july when carp comes back.

Let's see

Wainwirght, Loshe, then three of (Thompson/Wellemeyer/Mulder/Joelle/Clement)

Allegedly Reyes finally won a spot, but I won't believe it till I see it-- and if true it won't hold up against TRL's massive ADD problems.

wet dream about this for a second though

end of the year rotation

1. vintage carpenter
2. vintage mulder
3. vintage wainwright
4. vintage clement
5. vintage reyes

that would rival the best rotations in baseball.

That seems perfectly reasonable

hahahaha

nothing against Larry because he's pretty good, but you need a second blog to run (or at least co-write for, comment at)

huh?

Many would not take that as sarcasm.

i'm lost.

Jeff is our overlord.

yeah i know

but what did you mean by

nothing against Larry because he's pretty good, but you need a second blog to run (or at least co-write for, comment at)
?

VEB lacks the dry sarcasm, and heavy pessimism that I am so accustomed to.

also, as a general rule, they don't like to take pleasure in other people's misfortune either. It's a real in-between-hop.

yeah

VEB is kinda a classy place.

i wish sometimes people would just lay back and let us cuss and make fun of people. but the second you do that the whole community gets on your ass.

yes

also I hate explaining why Anthony Reyes wasn't nearly as bad as everybody thinks, why ERA is useless, and why it is extremely unlikely that he'll repeatt a 1.030 OPS with runners on...

They wouldn't last two seconds over here.

Even if I wasn't awake.

The replies stop threading properly what.

yeah they would.

wtf?

I don't think you understand Lookout Landing

i probaly don't

but i understand your mom's anatomy.

Huh

Quit being an annoying little shit or I'll start deleting comments.

sorry

i was just being funny.

You were being funny?

Sorry to bring back a dead meme, but...

Fail.

Get better at funny

And we'll all get along fantastically.

Were you?

fuck

i fail. : (

What's happening? Why aren't the replies threading?

This needs to be fixed.

I predicted this would be a problem when they went to a fixed-width layout.

We'll find a fix of some sort

There can't be endless indention, so we have to stop somewhere. The current limit is what we had set before we introduced the wide layout.

How do y'all think it should behave when you get down into 20 reply territory?

The old system worked great.

Conversations
died out only
when replies
became
impossible
to read due
to them being
strung out like
this.

Or
like
this,
which
was
a
sort
of
organic
limit.

what Evan said

I wish they'd flip him to Seattle...

For Baek +

Reyes? What would we do with him?

kill em

and i dont' like this lack of threading properly.

we stop threading at a certain point

that's what you're seeing

we may need to tweak this for the wider layout

that would be appreciated

i'm out

i'll be back later to tell you why brad thompson is better than bedard.

Ugh. No kidding...

The blogger formerly known as Corco, though, discovered this last night...

Flip Washburn for him.

Sorry.

Take a step in the ol' way back machine and not trade Jones for Bedard?

you bet!

I have the feeling

that before you leave you'll have given us a wonderful new meme to play with.

why?

No vintage Pineiro????

uh, no.

Pineiro's 2001 was pretty good...

And 2002 wasn't bad.

//roids.

and don't say that man

it's march. optimism rules!

I propose that I join your bond so we can form the NL Alliance.

IIRC their is a Cubs fan around here that we could recruit as well.

Goose - March 26, 2008 reply

Huh

I didn't realize if you turned off Avatars it turns off all avatars. So the people that hate them can completely ignore them

Stats page

this may have been brought up elsewhere by the hivemind, but can we make the stats page customizable somehow? This is a dorky blog that revels in each and every stat that makes Woody Paige cry. It's sort of weird to see a LL stats tab with BA/OBP/SLG. Maybe have a second tab with tRA/xFIP for pitchers and baseruns/fielding stats/GPA/whatever for position players

marc w - March 26, 2008 reply

we definitely want to open it up like that

in this first round we've just setup the basics, but we'd really like to expand that out

hey

do the wide screen formats and no avatar updates apply to all blogs or just this one?

all SB Nation blogs on the new platform

thanks

Win Expectancy charts need a home too

tRA will be tricky for you to do, I imagine...

NOT A REAL STAT

Hey, Marc brought it up

WE SHOULD HAVE A PLACE FOR PHIL RODGERS POITN SYSTEM TOO

You're just bitter ;)

so... once again...

thanks to Trei and all of the other developers, for staying up late as hell last night and then getting up early today to help us out and accommodate all of our requests... after hanging out in the game thread this morning for most of the game, I'm pretty much used to everything. I love most of it, the rest of it I'm getting used to, and theres very little I outright don't like at all.

thenatural - March 26, 2008 reply

I have question

Is it possible to claim my old account and integrate it with, or does it even matter?

yes, you can claim an old account if you haven't already

if you want to claim the UID, join date, comments and diaries associated with it

but it looks like you already did that on LL eh?

got it thanks.

see I just opened a new one with out claiming my old. I really don't ~~all of the~~ instructions.

So...

Aren't we supposed to be mercilessly ridiculing anyone with an avatar?

Maybe I didn't get the memo.

And my thanks to the SBNation staff for constructively responding to feedback.

eponymous_coward - March 26, 2008 reply

if you have an avitar, I can't see it

Fire away...

Or just turn them off...

Yeah, I got THAT memo.

However, I'm satisfied enough with the switchover that my ability to ridicule is diminished.

Perhaps McLaren can make a boneheaded personnel move?

eponymous_coward - March 26, 2008 reply

Unfortunately, Arthur Rhodes will not be going north.

But Miguel Cairo will.

Someone needs to use him as an avatar.

eponymous_coward - March 26, 2008 reply

Now that we can ignore them

I don't care what you people do.

New complaint...

Second entry in 'news' reads as follows:

"Seattle Mariners 2008 Preview

That plus the addition of pitching coach Mel Stottlemyre and a better than average bullpen spearheaded by closer J.J. Putz has fans in the Emerald City thinking playoffs once again."

I'm sure everyone sees the problem with this.

blame sportsnetwork

It's kinda hard when it's appearing in LL

Any way we can fix it? It's actually a ghastly piece of writing.

it's clearly just a news feed

and their byline is on the article

Test

So this is sort of like Slashdot now?

bluemax - March 26, 2008 reply

Minus the Paultards.

Also

I hate that I had to change my name. Fuck Matt over at the Bulls blog for stealing my name.

bluemax - March 26, 2008 reply

because matt isn't common or anything.

I'm not saying it isn't

but just because there are other Matt's in the world doesn't mean my friends don't know me as Matt, you know what I'm saying?

It'd be one thing if I had always been bluemax here, but I feel like I lost a bit of my identity.

bluemax - March 26, 2008 reply

yeah, i know what you mean

losing the name scruffy righty was an emotional realization for me.

Things I hate.

1. FanShots. Why do we need to break up the content that was previously all in Diaries? Now I need to look in two places.

2. Auto-updating comments. First, that little pop-up at the bottom of my screen is distracting. Second, I now CAN'T TELL which comments I've read. On the old site, I could load the comment page, even if it was hundreds of comments long, read them, and then refresh to find the new ones. Now if new comments get added above where I was reading, I can't find them (because everything is still yellow). But if I refresh, that new comment isn't yellow because it was added while I was viewing the page.

The auto-updating comments are - AAAAGGH! - and the little pop-up message repositions my screen every time it happens,even while I'm typing a comment. STOP THAT! It did it again. And again. That's five times just in the last minute.

My point was, the auto-updating comments make it vastly harder to read a high-traffic thread, especially if you haven't been there the entire time. Game threads are going to be a disaster.

And why isn't my comment new?

I just wrote it. It's appearing on the page for the very first time. Why isn't it shown as new?

Your own comments don't get shown as new

HA!

beat you to it!

That's a novel definition of 'beat'

says you.

because you wrote it

It's still new.

How am I supposed to find it if it's not shown as new?

How can you lose it?

It's in the same position right after you hit POST!

ThundaPC - March 26, 2008 reply

Until that Auto-update message repositions the screen.

I believe in your settings

you can disable the auto-update.

yeah you can.

i like it though.

Sweet!

I'm doing that now.

Evan, you can disable auto-update in your settings

or above the comments in this thread. Then when you refresh you'll get new ones all at once. And either way, the Z key works well to scroll through the new ones. Does that help?

It helped more when Jeff told me two hours ago.

I've already done it, and it's wonderful. Great feature.

The best new features are always the ones I can turn off.

i had decided to sleep, sadly

and didn't notice until a few minutes after I posted that Jeff had answered below. So it goes.

Im starting to like that popup

that comes up saying new comments, click on it an it brings you to the new comments

wadswerth - March 26, 2008 reply

And lose track of where you were on an otherwise entirely yellow page.

Yeah, real helpful.

the c button

is going to really suck when we're in game thread mood.

I don't see the point of "C", using "Z" makes much more sense to me.

yeah Z is the meal ticket

wadswerth - March 26, 2008 reply

thanks

much better.

I managed to create two SB Nation accounts

Any way to merge them? I've claimed 2 blogs with one and three blogs with the other.

can you send us a request

at bugreport@sbnation.com with all the relevant info - we'll try to get you fixed up

Incidentally

This is the other one of me.

even more so than Carl Hubbell

d'oh

stupid reply button

Apologies if this was mentioned before

But I went to Matthew's Opening Day Event post to bump it, as it's now down the page... and just noticed you can't bump threads. Can this be enabled?

(BTW I'm posting away from work for the moment, browser's Firefox. No crashes, so the ad crashes are definitely an IE thing.)

Gomez - March 26, 2008 reply

I was going to ask about that

But I never figured out how to bump threads anyway, so I figured I might just be being stupid.

If you click to edit a post

look under the Publish button.

Aha

Oh HEY

There we go. Problem solved, carry on.

Gomez - March 26, 2008 reply

I don't mind fanshots

Its a neat idea. If we could just have pics in the fanposts as well things would be neat-o.

CKremer - March 26, 2008 reply

you can still put pics in fanposts

I'm still hitting F3 waaaay too much

I've lost my screenname in the transition

and I don't really know why.

Sure, it's easy to steal the name of another semi-obscure philosopher, but I'm still annoyed by this.

abelard - March 26, 2008 reply

what was your name before?

did it tell you that someone else was using it on another blog?

It was JDS

and yeah, it sid someone on the Orioles blog was using it. Was it just first-come, first-serve on old names?

abelard - March 26, 2008 reply

the names were reserved

based on a formula that took into account how long you've had the name and how active you are

Ah

that's fair.

abelard - March 26, 2008 reply

Probably the last person to log in and check this out by now

But I have to say I'm impressed thus far. Great work Trei & team!

thejew4u - March 26, 2008 reply

Replies need to thread better

They stop threading when they get more than 19 tiers deep.

If you'll recall, I predicted this would happen when we were first told of the fixed width. This is a major problem - it makes it impossible to follow discussions when thy get realyl tangential.

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I honestly can't believe the collective bitch-fest from this community regarding this upgrade. I'm a Rangers fan and swing by here occasionally after reading LSB. I've always respected the quality of dialog that took place here, and wow, the tantrums that we saw (see?) were really beneath all you guys.

Have a terrible season ;)

Fuck off and die

Preferably exquisitely slowly

There should be squirrels involved

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way to bring the LSB mentality and civility to LL. I like and respect you guys (not your team), but thought I'd mention what I thought here.

I wasn't being personal or troll, or at least wasn't trying to be.

What's with the 'x' in the subject?

I've gotten in the habit of doing

I'm not writing an email. Having a subject line for short comments feels awkward, so I just x it out and leave the comment in the body.

Just a preference thing.

but you can post without a subject

or without a body

JP - March 26, 2008 reply

Yea - that's what I was implying

But it definitely came out a bit snarky haha not intended!

I thought it was really funny.

you're just mean.

Well done for noticing

but why?

I don't like idiots?

like me i suppose.

Thank you for your contribution

I don't really see how a member of LSB could possibly be critical of another community's behavior, but what do I know?

Nothing.

Ha. Sucker

brayden04 - March 26, 2008 reply

LSB

That was my point. Our community sucks. It's undeniable.

Your community is, on the whole, smarter, less trollish, more insightful, wittier. I'm absolutely jealous.

And I'm calling you all out on being babies and handling the transition poorly.

I think we've handled this quite well today

leading up it was a lot uglier, but then leading up we didn't know that we'd be able to ignore avatars and make the screen wider.

It's because Mariners fans are way bigger nerds than you are

and we actually use computers to their full potential.

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I live in San Francisco. I have a computer science degree. I work in technology. I'd take my chances, head-to-head against anyone in a nerdiness competition.

I was more addressing the overwhelming sense of entitlement that was happening here. These changes are meant to benefit your community, and the staff was clearly concerned for your needs and at least attempted to resolve any gripes.

Sure, it's not perfect, but it's a fucking blog, and it's technology. Do you really expect things to stay the same? Do you really expect it to be perfect at roll-out?

Who the fuck would give you a degree?

Evergreen?

Krusty's Klown Kollege?

No

The University of California. You guys are edgy today.

Welcome to Lookout Landing.

You eventually learn to love the harsh sarcasm

All part of the charm.

You're not going to finish that with - Los Angeles, right?

BOOOOOOOOOOOO

chaney - March 26, 2008 reply

Don't fuck with Evergreen Paul

or Evergreen will fuck with you!

Hey now.

Watch it, bub.

Aaron Campeau - March 26, 2008 reply

AHHHHH! LOGIC!! GO AWAY!

I'd like to see that nerdiness competition.

Where's Corco?

My point is, we appear to stress the blog format in ways the SBN guys didn't really predict, and that doesn't really surprise me. I have that problem all the time in my day-to-day life (I'm a DBA).

Whew.. all caught up

Good to see everything that we talked about last night / early in the morning will be addressed. The SBN team rocks.

Hey clockwerks...

I've been having problems with CXZ working after I vote in a poll.

right, I saw yer report about that on AN

we weren't able to reproduce it reliably, but will try again

would you remind me what browser/OS you're having this problem in?

IE 7

Thank you.

Also, not to be a whining heifer, but I noticed this problem this morning:

I'm having issues with Preview and Save in FanPosts. Preview: the popup screen says my popups are blocked. They aren't. Then it eats my text. Save: Page says it's unavailable, then it eats my text. Is is user error?

You guys are awesome.

I saw that in yer DLD today

still working on trying to recreate that as well....

Yes, you guys are awesome.

this page just took 26.422seconds to load

that's going to be a problem. What's the ETA on performance upgrades?

It's only at 5 seconds or so for me right now

That's about what mine is at right now too

Not too bad.

Same here, load times aren't too bad.

compare load times with avatars on and off. Matthew, I'm guessing you have avatars set to display?
you can change this in Edit Settings

JP - March 26, 2008 reply

god no

anyways, it seems to have just been an isolated case. now it seems to finish leading ~5sec and for reference, I was talking a complete load, not just time until content loaded.

Minor suggestion/bug...

Sorry if this was already covered, haven't read through the 700+ comments in the FanPost(s) and Blog(s) covering the new format.

When I go to the top and open the My Blogs menu, if I click More SBNation Blogs it takes me to what appears to be my profile page. This could already be the intended functionality, but I'd love it if that would just shoot out a new menu to the right which breaks out the SBNation family blogs by sport>league/division>blog.

thejew4u - March 26, 2008 reply

I'd love it if the NEW designation

in the FanPosts sidebar could be written in a colour, maybe red, so it would stand out. It's a lot harder to find FanPosts with comments I haven't read than it was with the old Diaries system.

I know I can hide avatars so I don't see them

but can I remove the avatar from my profile so other people don't see one associated with me?

you don't have one set

and in that case the default is used for those who see avatars. you can't change/remove that.

Okay.

So I need to find one I like even if I have them turned off, got it.

I think they did a great job

It looks really good.

phil333 - March 26, 2008 reply

Z problems

So when someone posts a comment near the top of the thread while I'm at the bottom, and I hit Z, the comment becomes unmarked but I don't jump up to where it is It's been happening pretty consistently for me.

Yeah, I have the same problem

It's the only bad thing about Z

we'll check it out

Graham, is this happening in Opera

i presume?

Nope, Firefox 3 Beta 4

I switched because I couldn't use the longer threads in Opera

I'm having the same problem.

IE 7

I'm greedy for ponies now

Would it be possible to have a way to mark all comments as read at once?

refresh

CapSea - March 26, 2008 reply

you're a genius.

Or F5 if you're feeling really snazzy.

Don't have to tell me thrice.

CapSea - March 26, 2008 reply

does anyone else have to sign in everytime they

visit the site? on the old LL it kept me signed on even if i restarted my computer.

Maybe it's something stupid with my cookies....although cookies aren't stupid...they're delicious. just wanted to make that clear.

br

sirbrianwilson - March 26, 2008 reply

I haven't had that problem.

damn cookies...

...i mean, good cookies. goooooood cookies.

br

sirbrianwilson - March 26, 2008 reply

If you're accepting cookies, this should work fine

If the problem persists after you fiddle with your settings, holler back and let us know what OS and browser version you're using.

Welcome to the funhouse, LL :)

Okay, so heres an idea...stay with me

We have auto refreshing comments, yes?

-BUT-

What if we had auto updating the front page, where it says XX comments, xx new.

where the number of comments and new ones auto updated, as well...on the front page.

no?

yes?

PShwa - March 26, 2008 reply

Already been reported/requested

great idea.

this is me being late

glad someone else thought of it, means it wasnt as crazy as i thought.

PShwa - March 26, 2008 reply

As to your discussion of the auto-update feature in game threads...

A word of warning (since, IIRC, your game threads get pretty active)... as I discovered in the super-busy AN game thread ~~last night~~ this morning, if you are moving through new comments with Z or C, it often misses new replies that were added to older comments "upthread" from where the majority of the activity is happening. There were several comments I had to go find by scrolling up.

(and since I was using Z,

they had already been unyellowed when I found them, so it was a pain in the ass)

Yeah, we've noticed that

LOL

I'm sorry, I completely missed that you just brought up that exact same thing. I scrolled down too fast after reading Evan's comments.

New thing

Diaries are sometimes showing the wrong number of comments when you refresh the main page

Another new thing

On the old site, if I was reading comments and followed a link somewhere, when I returned to the comments using my BACK button I would get exactly the same page I was reading without losing the NEW designations on messages farther down the page.

But here, presumably because the yellow shading is all java-y or something, if I do that now (say to check out someone's profile) and return, all of the comments are now marked as read, even though I haven't refreshed the page.

That's not great.

middle-click is your friend

it's an easy habit to get into and it loads links in a new tab (assuming you're using FF).

I hate tabbed browsing.

Tabs take away viewable area.

why do you hate happiness?

I hate new features that markedly change old features

It's like features have externalities that the developers don't take into account.

I've actually disabled tabs and hidden the tab bar in IE7.

I don't get the obsession with viewable area

to the extreme some people have it here. I despise things like google or yahoo toolbars because they suck, but tabs are incredibly useful and so is my bookmark taskbar. All together they give me two lines less of text that I can see at any moment. That's nothing.

Tabs have another problem.

Tabs prevent me from seeing all the things I have open in one place. If I have several applications running, they're listed in the task bar. But if I start using tabbed browsing, the pages I'm accessing aren't listed separately for easy navigation.

Llewdor - March 27, 2008 reply

Losing 10 pix is that important to you?

The easiest way to manage tabbed browsing is to not have 3456487 tabs open - keep it under 8 and they all show up on one nice, small row. And F11 maximizes the screen anyway so you don't even have to deal with that if you don't want to.

Yes it is.

I auto-hide the Windows task bar for the same reason. I never keep icons in the quick-launch bar. I use the Windows Classic display because the UI elements are smaller when they have square corners.

Llewdor - March 27, 2008 reply

Ok

Now there's some weird stuff going on at the bottom of the home page. Doesn't look like it's on purpose