Dammit Jeff, cut me off while replaying about the Johjima thing
We analyze every weakness of the team in the (vain) hope that we can somehow help make this team better. This seems like an area where our particular expertise of modern analysis would answer a question that seems to be gaining way too much momentum amongst the club.
Even if all it does is prove that Washburn is full of shit, I think it’d be a worth while endeavor.
Wlad has the patience to take pitches not even close to the strike zone. Clement has the patience to take pitches not even close to the strike zone. Yuni wont swing unless it is out of the strike zone.
Not as much as the rest of you, because I have my 2nd team.
But they are the DBacks expansion brothers. And a majority of us want to face them in the World Series because it would be awesome. So I’m rooting for them in that regard.
Griffey is earning $12.5 million this season, the last year of the nine-year, $116.5 million contract he signed after the Reds acquired him from Seattle after the 1999 season. Some think Griffey would make any trade conditional on his new team picking up his $16.5 million option for 2009 — a deal-breaker for the Mariners, one would hope.
Surely Bavasi can’t be that stupid? 16.5 million??
Is it all luck? Our rotation got better, our defense didn’t really change, our offense got slightly worse… we should be about as good of a team this year.
Verbal irony is distinguished from situational irony and dramatic irony in that it is produced intentionally by speakers. For instance, if a speaker exclaims, "I’m not upset!" but reveals an upset emotional state through her voice while truly trying to claim she’s not upset, it would not be verbal irony just by virtue of its verbal manifestation (it would, however, be situational irony). But if the same speaker said the same words and intended to communicate that she was upset by claiming she was not, the utterance would be verbal irony. This distinction gets at an important aspect of verbal irony: speakers communicate implied propositions that are intentionally contradictory to the propositions contained in the words themselves. There are examples of verbal irony that do not rely on saying the opposite of what one means, and there are cases where all the traditional criteria of irony exist and the utterance is not ironic.
Ironic similes are a form of verbal irony where a speaker does intend to communicate the opposite of what they mean. For instance, the following explicit similes have the form of a statement that means P(X) but which conveys the meaning not P:
as funny as cancer
as clear as mud
as pleasant as a root-canal
The irony is recognizable in each case only by using stereotypical knowledge of the source concepts (e.g., bowling balls, sledgehammers) to detect an incongruity.
A fair amount of confusion has surrounded the issue regarding the relationship between verbal irony and sarcasm, and psychology researchers have addressed the issue directly (e.g, Lee & Katz, 1998). For example, ridicule is an important aspect of sarcasm, but not verbal irony in general. By this account, sarcasm is a particular kind of personal criticism leveled against a person or group of persons that incorporates verbal irony. For example, a person reports to her friend that rather than going to a medical doctor to treat her ovarian cancer, she has decided to see a spiritual healer instead. In response her friend says sarcastically, “Great idea! I hear they do fine work!” The friend could have also replied with any number of ironic expressions that should not be labeled as sarcasm exactly, but still have many shared elements with sarcasm.
Research shows that most instances of verbal irony are considered to be sarcastic, suggesting that the term sarcasm is more widely used than its technical definition suggests it should be (Bryant & Fox Tree, 2002; Gibbs, 2000). Some psycholinguistic theorists suggest that sarcasm (“Great idea!”, “I hear they do fine work.”), hyperbole (“That’s the best idea I have heard in years!”), understatement (“Sure, what the hell, it’s only cancer…”), rhetorical questions (“What, does your spirit have cancer?”), double entendre (“I’ll bet if you do that, you’ll be communing with spirits in no time…”) and jocularity (“Get them to fix your bad back while you’re at it.”) should all be considered forms of verbal irony (Gibbs, 2000). The differences between these tropes can be quite subtle, and relate to typical emotional reactions of listeners, and the rhetorical goals of the speakers. Regardless of the various ways folk taxonomies categorize figurative language types, people in conversation are attempting to decode speaker intentions and discourse goals, and are not generally identifying, by name, the kinds of tropes used.
It’s like saying “Kenji Johjima got out.” Verbal irony would be “Kenji Johjima grounded out.” Sarcasm would be “Kenji Johjima bunted out to the third baseman.” All three are correct, but the third is the most specific
But I was using “too soon” as like… maybe kinda harsh. I dunno, it seemed a little bit low. I wasn’t offended or anything, I was just thinking someone else could be.
We had a move called “The Schaivo” in the joke male-dance team routine and openly and sarcastically dedicated the dance to her at my high school. No one cared. Is Lynnwood high school soul less?
however, if you’re so inclined, you can download the presentations here. I’m glad I went, but it’s been a while since I felt like the dumbest guy in the room.
I don't see how they can't use this sort of technology for bats.
I created programs in HS that did pattern recognition on live video. We recreated a pitch f/x style system (not nearly as complicated) for tennis balls, and then converted it to the rackets with limited success. If we were able to post a camera directly above like they do in baseball, I could easily see getting swing speed, angle, rotational axis, etc.
Could you imagine being able to solve the “Clement Bat Speed” controversy once and for all? Not to mention the ability to fine-tune swings at early stages in a career? It would make the “PED Spike” look like a speedbump.
It would be like the tag tracking they use for video game capture, but for every single AB ever. Just think about the video game realism, for starters. I wonder if they have any money to throw at a lapsed programmer to buy HD cams and a fibre channel array for development?
the SportVision people are talking to game developers about involving PITCHf/x. If they arrive at an agreement, you won’t be hitting any more video game fastballs. You’ll be hitting real ones.
Selected Jeremy Bonderman in the first round but was used as the PTBNL in a trade later, but he couldn’t be named as the PTBNL until after a year from his draft date.
The book depicts Beane as being extremely upset about the pick – was he always picked to be a PTBNL or did Beane just decide to get rid of him as soon as his scouts drafted him on accident?
In order for that to work, the PTBNL has to already be on your team. If it’s a fresh draftee, you have to wait an entire year before you can name him the PTBNL.
Thus, even if it were possible at this point (and it isn’t), the Reds wouldn’t get anybody until 2010.
It takes an enormous commitment of time to keep up with all the inside jokes.
I should probably stop trying, before the rest of my life starts to crumble around me. I’m just waiting for the day I see one of the regulars around here on Intervention.
And then something he says something totally awesome. Like talking about BABIP or Win Expectancy, or referencing dppb.org(which him and Sutton both read).
Unfortunatly, there’s alot more of the former than the latter.
The Society for Positive Psychotherapy in Bulgaria ( DPPB ) is the third in size (with Germany and Russia taking the first two places ) among the National Societies within the framework of ICPP and EFCPP . It was established in 1993 and registered as a non-profit organization on 18.11.1993.
In its systematic activities SPPB corresponds to Bulgaria ’ s current needs for qualified psychotherapists and the universal accessibility to psychotherapeutical help.
Positive Psychotherapy as a therapeutical method is the fourth biggest in Germany ( in terms of popularity among patients and remuneration by the German social security system ). The method has been pioneered by Prof. Dr.med. Nossrat Peseschkian , who was born in Iran, but has been working and living in Germany since 1954 . After graduation, he has specialized in the fields of Psychiatry and Psychoanalyses in Germany, Switzerland and the USA.
The method of Positive Psychotherapy was introduced in Germany in 1968 and since then has achieved worldwide acknowledgement. Over 60 independent Centers of Positive Psychotherapy are currently functioning in more than 20 countries in Europe , Asia , North America and Africa. They are all part of the International Centers for Positive Psychotherapy ( ICPP ) network and European Federation of Centers for Positive Psychotherapy (EFCPP ) based in Wiesbaden ( Germany ), and through them – of the European Wide Accrediting Organization ( EWAO ) and the European Association for Psychotherapy . ( EAP ).
Huh. King Felix thinks accountability is for sissies and Canadians
Or so Geoff Baker perceives this… ”...Hernandez, unlike Ibanez, again did his best to avoid the media for as long as he could. He’s been doing it all week, since helping to ignite that brawl with the Rangers. This time, he ignored a media relations staffer’s repeated, polite requests to come talk, purposely hanging out in an off-limits area for 45 minutes after the game until all but a Seattle radio reporter had left. Writers have deadlines and pitchers are made well aware of them and usually come out to speak quickly unless they are receiving treatment. Media members will rarely linger in a clubhouse more than a half-hour after a game. Players don’t like it. Neither do we.
But Hernandez was being purposely difficult, making a team employee chase him around. He did the same stuff to other employees in spring training and, I’ve got to admit, it bugs me to see a 22-year-old allowed to do that. Bugs me that anyone would, especially putting out employees of his team doing their jobs. His team, not mine. I know how much talent Hernandez has, but he has accomplished very little in this game.”
Rays!
Fin - May 13, 2008
Troy Percival time!
I feel dirty rooting for him.
bluemax - May 13, 2008
What is making him so good this year?
I mean, wasn’t he completely done-finished-through?
marinator - May 13, 2008
His supposed change up
although I think its smoke and mirrors.
bluemax - May 13, 2008
Dammit Jeff, cut me off while replaying about the Johjima thing
We analyze every weakness of the team in the (vain) hope that we can somehow help make this team better. This seems like an area where our particular expertise of modern analysis would answer a question that seems to be gaining way too much momentum amongst the club.
Even if all it does is prove that Washburn is full of shit, I think it’d be a worth while endeavor.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
I would have to go through every game individually
I am not going to do that. I’ll leave it to somebody with better database ability.
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
I wish I had those abilities
I’d do it myself. I wonder if we can convince Josh Kalk to modify his algorithm so that it’ll differentiate between catchers as well.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
You are overthinking this one Jeff
Year – Team ERA when Johjima Catches – Total Team ERA
2006 – 4.81 – 4.60
2007 – 5.03 – 4.73
2008 – 4.78 – 4.50
I know ERA is a poor tool in general, but this is a trend.
Sec 108 - May 13, 2008
This means absolutely nothing without knowing the ratio of starters caught
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
You can take that position and I would not argue.
I will just say I have never seen a worse catcher since Mackey Sasser.
Sec 108 - May 13, 2008
ERA is a poor tool in general
No better then offensive stat lines. And it still doesn’t identify the problem.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
A Run?
Scruffy Lefty - May 13, 2008
Oh for fuck's sake
They’re going to give him a Sac Fly for hitting a LINE DRIVE…
KILL THE SAC FLY RULE! It’s retarded!
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
So it should be a RBI out?
Scruffy Lefty - May 13, 2008
I think that would make it more likely that we would score
or at least more likely than you will score for the next 3 months,
Robert - May 13, 2008
>:O
Scruffy Lefty - May 13, 2008
Lean like a JoLo!
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Well I guess
Cindy/Malkin Vs. Zetterberg/Datsyuk could be “fun”
Edanger6 - May 13, 2008
A hell of a lot more fun than Briere/Ribeiro or whatever
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Wlad Wlad Wlad Wlad Wlad Wlad Wlad.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Wlad!
Robert - May 13, 2008
Wlad?
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Wl@d
Robert - May 13, 2008
So for the Rays invasion
Are we supposed to act like refugees or that we’ve loved them all along?
Robert - May 13, 2008
Act natural
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Acting natural doesnt come naturally to everyone
Robert - May 13, 2008
I sure like these Devil Rays... I meant Rays, honest!
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
So make jokes of questionable taste.
Check.
ningwers - May 13, 2008
I wonder what Steve Irwin would think about this
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
He's not able to think because he's dead. I swam with sting rays once
Not a big deal. Steve Irwin was just a giant pussy
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Swimming with Rays
Sounds very majestic
Robert - May 13, 2008
Hard to tell through all the screaming
ningwers - May 13, 2008
KENJI!!!
PULLING THE POWER PITCH!
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Joh Joh
PowerPitch
Scruffy Lefty - May 13, 2008
Hey Kenji is good again
marinator - May 13, 2008
Joh ties up the game.
Neat.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
Kenji?
Again?
Happybelly - May 13, 2008
So I guess Johjima's doing okay
Fuck you Jarrod.
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Joh also saved Felix.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Well, for now.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Wlad for RotY!!
marinator - May 13, 2008
Oh fuck you Yankees ):<
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Washburn sucks all the time...
Kenji does sporadically
pakipaki - May 13, 2008
In college or prison that would be point set match, Washburn
ningwers - May 13, 2008
Fuck
Matsui :(
bluemax - May 13, 2008
GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
Percival blew it!
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
wlad walk!
He’s becoming our very own three true outcome guy.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Needs more third outcome
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
He's workin on it
Dug himself into a hole with the home runs and strikeouts is all.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Where was that last pitch to Wlad?
ESPN Gametracker has it almost right down the middle.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Ump blinked
It rode way back in from where it started.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Too high
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Gameday had it at the letters
High strike could have been called. No biggie.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
The strike zone hasn't touched the letters since like 1950
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
But that pitched
is called. A lot.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Actually it pretty much never is
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/strike-zone-fact-vs-fiction/
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Curse you Jeff! With your evidence and what not!
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Hey, the rules are the rules man
Just because nobody calls them…
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
ESPN fails at everything from their Gametracker to everything else
marinator - May 13, 2008
Please don't make this a habit, Percival.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
Unless he goes back to the Angels.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
I like Clement
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
Back-to-Back! Wlad and Clement!
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
So Troy Percival sure allows a lot of flyballs
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Young guys clog up the basepaths!
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Clement!!
MFAN - May 13, 2008
I love how impatient Yuni is.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Amazing bizarro world isn't it?
Wlad has the patience to take pitches not even close to the strike zone.
Clement has the patience to take pitches not even close to the strike zone.
Yuni wont swing unless it is out of the strike zone.
I hate this team sometimes.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Sometimes?
Doesn’t sound frequent enough
ningwers - May 13, 2008
To be fair
The three pitches to Yuni were probably strikes anyway.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
I'm calling it
weak pop out to second.
bluemax - May 13, 2008
When did these guys become moderately entertaining?
ningwers - May 13, 2008
is this a case of when stalling for rain goes bad?
pakipaki - May 13, 2008
Boy was that pitch ever hung
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Betancourt=Fail.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
raul
tootthekazoo - May 13, 2008
k, Raul must die..seriously
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Fuck off Ibanez
Jesus Christ
Happybelly - May 13, 2008
I fucking love Gordon Ramsey
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
great slide, it looked like a belly flop
InSpokane - May 13, 2008
empty netter for Hossa
4-1 Pens. Ouch.
Edanger6 - May 13, 2008
Though, the sight of unhappy philly fans makes me smile.
Edanger6 - May 13, 2008
Be worse Raul
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
I tend to think everytime something like that happens
Geoff Baker winces
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Laird for 1B!
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Raul is very bad at defense.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Try "Horribly bad" instead.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
How about
“Coach Owens Bad”
Scruffy Lefty - May 13, 2008
only Griffey is that bad
MFAN - May 13, 2008
That doesn't even make sense!
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
He's right
Technically only Griffey and Coach are that bad
ningwers - May 13, 2008
Thank you!
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
You're welcome?
ningwers - May 13, 2008
This is awesome
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
We all gotta laugh at ourselves sometimes.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiirony
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Fin - May 13, 2008
Guess the Rays are going to have to hit another walk-off
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
LOL Cairo
HIT THE DIRT! KENJI’S THROWING TO FIRST!
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
The Orioles are trying to blow it against Boston.
Damnit.
Goose - May 13, 2008
But they have such a good closer
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
A "good setup man turned closer"
more like.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
I really hate Ramon Vazquez.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Man, neither corner is getting called today.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
last night i was happy i did not hear the fox baseball theme..
they are playing it tonight. i want to choke whoever decided to play that.
PhilKenSebben - May 13, 2008
Uh block the plate Kenji.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Jesus Christ blue
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
COME ON IWAMURA!
Goose - May 13, 2008
That game is a lot louder than this game
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Awesome.
Got gameday going on.
....can you watch 2 mlb.tv broadcasts at once?
Goose - May 13, 2008
Apparently yes, yes you can
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Why do you wait so long Mac
Get a fucking pitcher up!
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Yep. Me, Vazquez=hate.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Sure, leave Felix in
what could go wrong?
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
No one was even up until that walk
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Damn.
Going to extras in TB.
Goose - May 13, 2008
I wonder how much you actually care about that team
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Not as much as the rest of you, because I have my 2nd team.
But they are the DBacks expansion brothers. And a majority of us want to face them in the World Series because it would be awesome. So I’m rooting for them in that regard.
Goose - May 13, 2008
cool, I personally don't care about any other teams
Can’t root for any team but the home team
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
So, how about House last night?
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
At no point did they say "lupus"
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Nice...Felix struggling with command
Small strike-zone and u call for a pitch out?
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Why pitchout with two outs and a pitcher struggling with his command?
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Felix is done
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Put Felix on the DL until we're good
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
He's going to be on the DL
for the rest of his career?
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
fuck you you fucking fuck
Robert - May 13, 2008
Until next season?
Fin - May 13, 2008
optimistic you are
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
I just opened an old school box of animal crackers
So far this box has been infinitely more satisfying than anything involving the Mariners has been lately.
Katal LM - May 13, 2008
I had some Starburst today. That's some good
candy right there.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Hershey's Cookie and Cream bars
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Peanut Butter M&Ms
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Starburst is kind of a screwed up name
Katal LM - May 13, 2008
Makes a great FTL term
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Smaller
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Great show
ningwers - May 13, 2008
I had A&W Root Beer and Cinnamon Toast Crunch for breakfast
It’s what Randy Johnson has before every start. I’m sure of it.
Frosty Raptor - May 13, 2008
I think animal crackers make people think that all animals taste the same.
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
I hated Open Season.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
I didn't sleep well last night
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
What does this have to do with
me?
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
I think I speak for everyone here
when I say that we really don’t want to know
ningwers - May 13, 2008
I thought we were doing non sequitors
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
We dont watch cartoons
Robert - May 13, 2008
South Park...Simpsons...Futurama...
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Kiddy toons
Robert - May 13, 2008
Uh…..yeah…..we don’t…..
Goose - May 13, 2008
No way
The lion clearly tastes better than the elephant.
Katal LM - May 13, 2008
Is that concept
Too DEEP for you?
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
That dog looks ridiculous
Katal LM - May 13, 2008
112 pitches for Felix.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Let's give him the ol' Dusty Baker treatment.
He should be able to go 7, minimum.
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
Ruh-roh
Dusty Baker treatment…holy crap…Miguel Cairo is Mac’s Corey Patterson.
Frosty Raptor - May 13, 2008
RANDY JOHNSON JUST CAME WITHIN INCHES OF A HOMER!!!
Goose - May 13, 2008
Not hard when you're 6'3000".
Even if you’re a pitcher.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Actually it's incredibly difficult
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Darn! Foiled again!
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Jeff: If you want the language to be cleaned up here, shouldn't Coach be our role model?
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Cleaned up, not fucked up
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
I told somebody that they looked like a fish the other day
Robert - May 13, 2008
Wouldn't being taller...
...give you a larger strike zone? Therefore you’ve got more real estate to protect, if you feel what I’m throwing down…
Frosty Raptor - May 13, 2008
That slide was retarded
Katal LM - May 13, 2008
So what is Jim Knox's actual job?
Seriously fuck that guy.
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
who the hell are these people that Knox is talking too?
MFAN - May 13, 2008
that was Ibanezesque
Tony S - May 13, 2008
Josh Hamilton is awesome
David Murphy is an annoying bitch
MFAN - May 13, 2008
GODDAMN FOX BASEBALL THEME
Quit playing it Rangers organization..
PhilKenSebben - May 13, 2008
They should just play more celebratory Pantera
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
or a simple organ flourish.
are they reminding the fans they could have stayed home and watched for free?
PhilKenSebben - May 13, 2008
I feel like I want to start really hating David Murphy
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
I hate him. It's not difficult.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
So how's Texas' broadcasters?
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Zany!
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
How so?
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Crawford, Upton, Pena due up!
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
C'mon Adrian.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Bigger
Garces - May 13, 2008
Gameday is freaking out on me.
Apparently there were 223 pitches in the Suzuki at bat. Upon glancing over it, I see that the pitcher’s fastball ranges from 86 to 95 mph.
amanalone11 - May 13, 2008
Ichiro is actually on a 223 pitch at-bat! How are you not watching this?
Alaska - May 13, 2008
MOTHERFUKING VAZQUEZ AND FOX BASEBALL THEME
PhilKenSebben - May 13, 2008
God damnit
25% LD rate, shitty BABIP.
Adrian Beltre is the epitome of unlucky!
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
fuck luck
Double06 - May 13, 2008
I miss Kata
Katal LM - May 13, 2008
So Beltre might as well just go ahead and kill himself
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
L43!!!
Double06 - May 13, 2008
poor adrian
I feel bad for him
tootthekazoo - May 13, 2008
new here (m's fan from ny)
and i know this has already been said, but why the f is cairo batting 2nd? seriously
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
he is a former yankee
Tony S - May 13, 2008
he is former garbage
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
If you can figure that out then...then well I guess that makes you a huge retard
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
You picked a bad time to join us here
tootthekazoo - May 13, 2008
where in ny?
Robert - May 13, 2008
upstate alb...
and i still have faith
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
Beltre should just retire
Unlucky son of a bitch.
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
What will Red do?
PhilKenSebben - May 13, 2008
Sacrifice Willie Bloomquist.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
ARRGH!! WHAT IS GOING ON WITH GAMETRACKER??!
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Crawford singles. No outs.
Baltimore in the 9th with a 5-4 lead.
Goose - May 13, 2008
From Stone's Griffey article
Surely Bavasi can’t be that stupid? 16.5 million??
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
I want to choke that Ranger's horse.
Alaska - May 13, 2008
What happened to King Felix?
Alaska - May 13, 2008
Lance Berkman
is on pace to hit more extra-base hits than anyone in history.
Not that I think he’ll do it, but man, what a start to the season. Six steals, too.
Teej - May 13, 2008
Oh sure ump
Now those are strikes….
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Why does Carlos Pena come up to Black Magic Woman?
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Because he's not afraid to show
his true feelings!
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
That would have gone a long way if the bat didn't break...
A long way.
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Baltimore wins!
Rays tied for 1st!
Goose - May 13, 2008
I wish that bat impaled Cairo
Kaorikaze - May 13, 2008
hahaha
Alaska - May 13, 2008
i concur
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
Gameday has gone crazy
schwagnah - May 13, 2008
Dusty Baker is all about this
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
That's so awesome
tootthekazoo - May 13, 2008
I didn't know you could put a ball in play several times in one AB!
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
aha!
me too. I hit refresh and now it just won’t load..
amanalone11 - May 13, 2008
aha!
take on me. take me on
Tony S - May 13, 2008
I see Ichiro manged to hit the ball in play
eight times that AB.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
I count 11
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
*10
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
There's probably more,
I just got impatient and prt sc’ned it after pitch 80 something… if you look closely the last pitch is 229
schwagnah - May 13, 2008
ichiro is just that good
schwagnah - May 13, 2008
Also, I see Rupe managed to throw all of those pitches
yet only have 29 total!
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
It is weird how wind changes, huh, Sims?
Katal LM - May 13, 2008
Tornado?
Robert - May 13, 2008
Why is Crawford still on first?
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Why do we suck so much more than last year?
Is it all luck? Our rotation got better, our defense didn’t really change, our offense got slightly worse… we should be about as good of a team this year.
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
we got REALLY LUCKY last year...
Alaska - May 13, 2008
agreed
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
although not many were willing to admit it...
Crazy how that can last for so long.
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
This is why Pythagorean record isn't a great predictor of next season success
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
So that means we'll be good next year right?
Robert - May 13, 2008
Only if we start Griffey
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
You know what scares the living bejesus out of me
The fact that during last years Reds series, Ichiro says that he respects Griffey so much that he would gladly let him take over for him in center.
Robert - May 13, 2008
DANGER DANGER AWOOGA
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
It would help us win the Strasburg chase.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
It's not? I thought it was? RA/RS?
Don’t you mean that actual record isn’t a great predictor of next season success?
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
If you mean that luck makes it vary a lot, then I see what you mean
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Using Pythagorean to predict assumes that RS/RA reflects true talent level
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Doesn't it? More or less? Why wouldn't it?
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
There is a lot of luck that goes into runs scored and runs allowed
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
K
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Mariano Rivera will forever be good
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Like Griffey!!
ZOMG!!!!!!! Best EVERZ
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
He'll have Hoffman's saves record eventually.
Goose - May 13, 2008
It's easy when you take
steroids,HGH,steroids.Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
What?
Goose - May 13, 2008
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
I have that .gif bookmarked as the Coach Owens Special
Robert - May 13, 2008
Damn straight.
Right Click-Save Image as
Goose - May 13, 2008
Yeah, I save as'd it as "coachspecial"
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
0.00 ERA.
Welcome to the one time ERA is a good indicator of pitching ability.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
Balls
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
The Mariners would be better if they were the Rays
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
They would also be better if they didn't suck so badly
you know if you take out all the losses, we’re 15-0
seattlebruin - May 13, 2008
Clement and Cairo have matching .154 averages.
Although I hate Cairo much more.
Alaska - May 13, 2008
Clement at least walks a lot.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
And sucks less.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
This is true.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Sherril has 14 saves...
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
And this year's worst team trade goes to.....
Alaska - May 13, 2008
And bad peripherals
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
I fucking love Lopez this season.
Alaska - May 13, 2008
he is pure nasty
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
I'm impressed J-Lo
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
"Broken bat single for Lopez, boy that's frustrating"
WE JUST LINED OUT TWICE LAST INNING YOU SPAZ
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
The Penultimate Fan of Jose Lopez says
GO LOAFIE!!
seattlebruin - May 13, 2008
I think Ultimate Fan of Jose Lopez sounds a little pompous
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
But that just makes it ironic when you talk about chick flicks
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
And a touch stalker-ish, but whatever
seattlebruin - May 13, 2008
FUCKING HAMILTON
Alaska - May 13, 2008
God damn it Hamilton
Why didn’t we trade Morrow for you?
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
ahahahahahahahahahaha
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Is Beltre the most unlucky player in baseball right now?
CapSea - May 13, 2008
Nick Johnson
Kaorikaze - May 13, 2008
Giambi
JI - May 13, 2008
Josh Hamilton
I’m jealous.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
that FSN music always throws me off
MFAN - May 13, 2008
What just happened?
It looks like Kenji’s dot is over the fense
seattlebruin - May 13, 2008
hamilton snagged it right at the top of the fence
without jumping.
Raul Ibanez took notes
Tony S - May 13, 2008
I think Jeff is in love with Hamilton.
Alaska - May 13, 2008
It's a love square?
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
A love prism.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
I am rather fond of awesome talent
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
And Matthew fits in how?
Robert - May 13, 2008
Cheap and easy
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
If thats a talent, why go to college!
Robert - May 13, 2008
Says the entire state of Alaska
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
okay well the white sox annoucers are pretty bad, but these guys challenge them
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
Is it Grieve and whatever?
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
no clue
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
Grive and Lewin
There we go.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Hey so what did I miss?
Oh the offense is MIA again.
BrianL - May 13, 2008
Nah
It’s more Texas’s defense.
Katal LM - May 13, 2008
Now there's something you don't hear every day.
BrianL - May 13, 2008
no the Rangers are just robbing us of every hit
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
RANGERS DEFENSE
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
RELEASE. NEEDLES.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Floyd base hit.
Goose - May 13, 2008
Steal 2nd!
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Gomes pinch runs and does!
Goose - May 13, 2008
Oh hey he's healthy again
I thought I felt cold
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Joh has been swinging the ball well lately. I'm suprised.
Alaska - May 13, 2008
Why?
He’s been fairly unlucky so far this season.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Well he just had a slow start. I know he's a pretty good hitter.
Alaska - May 13, 2008
I don't think he was unlucky.
He was temporarily terrible. He’s better now.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
His ball in play data was consistent with what he always did
Results weren’t the same. That’s generally more “unlucky” then anything else.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Nice sentence.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
hmmm...
Yeah, I save as’d it as “coachspecial”
by butthol on May 13, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
hcoguy - May 13, 2008
How else would you say it?
“I saved it as…”?
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Have you read the sentence?
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
You gotta understand the internet slang...
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Texas weather helping out
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Well he's a pretty decent hitter
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
I thought he was "finished"?
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Wilkerson and Vidro
Johjima was unlucky.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
BALK!!!
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Is Gomes really that fast?
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
is texas really that good?
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
Is Floyd?
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
He hasn't shred all his ligaments yet
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
fuck.
Alaska - May 13, 2008
RAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYS
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
PADREEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Oh wait.
I meant RANGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
SUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKKKKKK
Goose - May 13, 2008
The Mariners are out of the RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
Nick S - May 13, 2008
Why are we in a CAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Our fucking OFFENSEEEEEEEE
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Race comes into play in West VIRGINIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
God dammit you're going to make the STOP POSTING gif unfunny
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Man, that looked hittable.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Godfuck Wlad just ruined a great AB
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
RAYS WIN RAYS WIN!!!
GABE GROSS WALKOFF HIT!
First place!!
Goose - May 13, 2008
Yay! Curses!
:) :( >:( >:)
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
What.
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
I'm happy that the Rays are in first, but rather
it’d be the Mariners. So I’m happy and sad.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Your like the Hitler of common sense
Robert - May 13, 2008
No shit.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Way too awesome
dare I say, more awesome than last night’s House?
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
RAYYYYYYYYYYYYS
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Wlad just missed a couple of meatballs.
Such is life.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Gabe Gross is not allowed to do that
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Why Wlad?
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
"How much fun is life as a Ray right now?"
“Tell you what, it doesn’t suck.”
Jonny Gomes is too awesome.
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
rays 2008= m's 2009
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
This optimism is not welcome here.
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
M's 1995
Not quite 2001.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
...
...
CapSea - May 13, 2008
M's need youth, appeal
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Beltre has 1/2 of that covered
Nick S - May 13, 2008
Hahahahaha
Fuck Rivera
CapSea - May 13, 2008
Rangers are better than the Mariners.
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Why is Wade Boggs' son bunting?
Would Wade Boggs bunt? That’s what I thought
seattlebruin - May 13, 2008
Dead Meme
Fin - May 13, 2008
Felix looked great tonight
chinn - May 13, 2008
He did?
Labored quite a bit actually. He wasn’t great at all, but he wasn’t horrifying either.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
irony
chinn - May 13, 2008
You mean sarcasm?
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
I think you mean sarcasm.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
No, I mean irony: saying the opposite of what you mean.
chinn - May 13, 2008
Sarcasm, again...
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
look it up
chinn - May 13, 2008
Be my guest.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
It's ironic that that's not what irony is.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
Uh..
That’s sarcasm…
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Verbal fucking irony!
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
that's sarcasm.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
Looked it up, Per WIkipedia
Verbal irony, including sarcasm
Verbal irony is distinguished from situational irony and dramatic irony in that it is produced intentionally by speakers. For instance, if a speaker exclaims, "I’m not upset!" but reveals an upset emotional state through her voice while truly trying to claim she’s not upset, it would not be verbal irony just by virtue of its verbal manifestation (it would, however, be situational irony). But if the same speaker said the same words and intended to communicate that she was upset by claiming she was not, the utterance would be verbal irony. This distinction gets at an important aspect of verbal irony: speakers communicate implied propositions that are intentionally contradictory to the propositions contained in the words themselves. There are examples of verbal irony that do not rely on saying the opposite of what one means, and there are cases where all the traditional criteria of irony exist and the utterance is not ironic.
Ironic similes are a form of verbal irony where a speaker does intend to communicate the opposite of what they mean. For instance, the following explicit similes have the form of a statement that means P(X) but which conveys the meaning not P:
The irony is recognizable in each case only by using stereotypical knowledge of the source concepts (e.g., bowling balls, sledgehammers) to detect an incongruity.
A fair amount of confusion has surrounded the issue regarding the relationship between verbal irony and sarcasm, and psychology researchers have addressed the issue directly (e.g, Lee & Katz, 1998). For example, ridicule is an important aspect of sarcasm, but not verbal irony in general. By this account, sarcasm is a particular kind of personal criticism leveled against a person or group of persons that incorporates verbal irony. For example, a person reports to her friend that rather than going to a medical doctor to treat her ovarian cancer, she has decided to see a spiritual healer instead. In response her friend says sarcastically, “Great idea! I hear they do fine work!” The friend could have also replied with any number of ironic expressions that should not be labeled as sarcasm exactly, but still have many shared elements with sarcasm.
Research shows that most instances of verbal irony are considered to be sarcastic, suggesting that the term sarcasm is more widely used than its technical definition suggests it should be (Bryant & Fox Tree, 2002; Gibbs, 2000). Some psycholinguistic theorists suggest that sarcasm (“Great idea!”, “I hear they do fine work.”), hyperbole (“That’s the best idea I have heard in years!”), understatement (“Sure, what the hell, it’s only cancer…”), rhetorical questions (“What, does your spirit have cancer?”), double entendre (“I’ll bet if you do that, you’ll be communing with spirits in no time…”) and jocularity (“Get them to fix your bad back while you’re at it.”) should all be considered forms of verbal irony (Gibbs, 2000). The differences between these tropes can be quite subtle, and relate to typical emotional reactions of listeners, and the rhetorical goals of the speakers. Regardless of the various ways folk taxonomies categorize figurative language types, people in conversation are attempting to decode speaker intentions and discourse goals, and are not generally identifying, by name, the kinds of tropes used.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
It's irony. Verbal irony. Look it up
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
It's irony. Verbal irony. Look it up
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Okay, okay.
I’ll look it up. Damn.
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
thank you LFJL
chinn - May 13, 2008
Define:Sarcasm
“the use of verbal irony in which a person appears to be praising something but is actually insulting it: eg, "She’s a real winner!"”
It’s sarcasm, because it is verbal irony.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
Sarcasm, then, is a branch of verbal irony.
Therefore it’s both
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
That's fine.
But saying “slander in print form” can be corrected to say: “That’s libel.”
CapSea - May 13, 2008
True, but that doesn't make the former wrong, which is what everyone was saying.
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Yet still correctable.
How ironic.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
It is correctable, but everyone was implying that irony was wrong.
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
It is wrong
The particular piece of “verbal irony” has more characteristics of sarcasm.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
It isn't wrong. That was verbal irony.
It fits verbal irony completely
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
How?
It’s a personal criticism of a person or group of persons. It fits the very definition of sarcasm over verbal irony.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
You say over verbal irony, which means you believe that irony still fits it, but
sarcasm fits it better. Therefore, chinn was correct in saying irony, but not as correct as he could have been. He did not need correcting
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Yes he did.
Irony, by itself, was incorrect. VERBAL irony is only partially correct. Sarcasm was the most correct term and answer.
Thus, he was wrong. It’s like saying that Kool Aid is water. Yes it has water in it, but water is not Kool Aid.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
No, verbal irony is a branch of irony.
It’s like saying “Kenji Johjima got out.” Verbal irony would be “Kenji Johjima grounded out.” Sarcasm would be “Kenji Johjima bunted out to the third baseman.” All three are correct, but the third is the most specific
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
That's awfully loose logic
Why isn’t the most accurate term not the correct one then?
More specifically, why the need to defend when you’re not using the most accurate term?
Inaccurate is inaccurate.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
You're mixing precision and accuracy.
Chinn’s choice was accurate, but imprecise. Please let it go.
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
Meh
This whole subthread was based on retarded semantics.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
What do Jewish people have to do with this?
CapSea - May 13, 2008
Probably nothing.
But I’m sure they’ll find a way to make it about them, won’t they?
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
Shut up you.
:-P
CapSea - May 13, 2008
END.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Excellent suggestion.
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
Yes. Exactly.
That’s why we’re moving on.
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
How ironic.
End of sub.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Nice try.
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
WOW!
Alaska - May 13, 2008
Yuni....
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
I didn't know lard could walk?
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
yuni
tootthekazoo - May 13, 2008
2008 Yuni...
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
wow, Yuni fucking blows
MFAN - May 13, 2008
no cairo is just 5'5
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
Cairo fucking blows
Fin - May 13, 2008
Actually he's 6'1"
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
My god, I'm 1 inch shorter than Miguel Cairo.
//wrists
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
It's cool I'm 3 inches shorter than Miguel Cairo.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
I'm 3 inches shorter than Miguel Cairo
But then again… I’m also like 22 years younger.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
I'm 7 inches shorter.
:(
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
You're tiny
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
HEY-Ohhhhhhhhh
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
That's what she said.
Fin - May 13, 2008
That was one of those set-ups where you don't say it
Sometimes what’s unsaid is so much funner…
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Hmmm
Yea, maybe Coach is about Tim Lincecum height.
Fin - May 13, 2008
Hehe
You said LinceCUM :D
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Aren't you a year older than me too?
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
I'd not admit this if I was you.
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
I am 1 or 2 inches shorter than Miguel Cairo
Fin - May 13, 2008
I know someone half as fruitful and productive
But 6 inches taller.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
I didn't know we were counting
the length of his ears.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
nah, his ears just make him appear that tall
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
no yuni fucking blows
CapSea - May 13, 2008
BRING RICHIE BACK
Tall first basemen are good defenders
Double06 - May 13, 2008
Holy crap the organization was SO wrong about Yuni's defensive ability
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Not at first they weren't
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Yuni has just gotten lazy?
Fin - May 13, 2008
just started eating at burger king
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
Vidro has given him Veteran Guidance
“No no, if you aren’t puking, you aren’t full, keeping eat them.”
Fin - May 13, 2008
dammit Yuni what the hell.
So much fail.
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Fast food is alluring
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
No Yuni just needs to eat less Paseo
Nick S - May 13, 2008
great, look what you've done Yuni
MFAN - May 13, 2008
This game is horrifyingly boring.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
You are surprised?
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
Jesus christ
how many times do i need to hear that Vazquez spent 17 games with the M’s in ‘01.
PhilKenSebben - May 13, 2008
Oh Wlad, Wlad, Wlad....
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
Wlad...
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
This team is intent on getting a good draft pick.
Double06 - May 13, 2008
hahaha i like the optimism
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
Strasburg '09 here we come!
Fin - May 13, 2008
BRAINDEAD MEME.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Someone should photoshop Braindead Meme on this pic
(I am sorry if this is offensive to anyone)
Fin - May 13, 2008
Yeahhhhh maybe too soon?
And no politics…
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Politics?
Fin - May 13, 2008
Pretty polarizing topic, I believe.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Nope, not too soon
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Score!
someone with photoshop should get right on it.
Fin - May 13, 2008
Seriously?
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Schiavo jokes are gold
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Yeah, I know it was like 5 years ago
But I was using “too soon” as like… maybe kinda harsh. I dunno, it seemed a little bit low. I wasn’t offended or anything, I was just thinking someone else could be.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Like a week after Schaivo died
We had a move called “The Schaivo” in the joke male-dance team routine and openly and sarcastically dedicated the dance to her at my high school. No one cared. Is Lynnwood high school soul less?
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Lynnwood is.
So we can only assume.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
Nobody here cares if somebody else is offended.
Goose - May 13, 2008
Except for very particular situations
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
We get offended by stupidity.
Goose - May 13, 2008
And European cigarrettes.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
And Josh Hamilton.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
We said offended, not awesome
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Ok, I guess I am just cautious because I don't know who gets offended by what
Fin - May 13, 2008
If it's something that happened, it's okay (Schiavo, 9/11, Utah miners, whatever)
If it’s something inherent, then it’s not (race, orientation). Unless it’s retardation, in which case it’s okay.
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Do we have any Floridians or Bible Thumpers in the hizzouse?
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Religion is also not okay
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
I think its religion, politics, and fantasy baseball which we can't talk about, right?
Fin - May 13, 2008
Those are the big three, yes
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Is that AK's sister?
CapSea - May 13, 2008
That was like years ago
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Do you know where you are?
Goose - May 13, 2008
Too soon?
How long was that? Not even close.
Goose - May 13, 2008
needs more 9/11
MFAN - May 13, 2008
Once about a year ago I saw that someone had changed her Wikipedia page
to just say ‘pwned’ about 200 times
Nick S - May 13, 2008
HAHA
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
That was COMPLETELY unnecessary
The () part that is.
Goose - May 13, 2008
It's a fucking Tuesday night Grieve, the Rays aren't going to draw
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Wlad wants Ken Griffey.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
HHHOOOOLLLLYYYYY SHIT
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Why God did you make me like the Mariners?
Alaska - May 13, 2008
Need less
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
NICE.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Not mine -- BrianL's.
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
Oh, thanks anyway
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Bum bum bum bum
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
tootthekazoo - May 13, 2008
So..2009..can we have a baseball draft party!?!
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Sean Green needs to play for a better team
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
and here comes Eddie for a 1-2-3 inning
MFAN - May 13, 2008
San Diego lost
So if we can hold on to the loss, we take over the #1 spot.
edddgar - May 13, 2008
Felix not doing well, Mariners not hitting, getting robbed of base hits,
Olivo playing first and batting second, Yuni sucking at defense, Clement and Wlad not doing well, Wlad playing bad defense, Vasquez owning us.
So much fail…
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Olivo is back???
MFAN - May 13, 2008
Cairo.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
rather have him than cairo, or ben davis
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
I have no idea why I keep confusing those two names
Maybe because they both suck?
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Yeah I did that too when we signed Cairo
Called him Olivo for like a week. Miguels… too many.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Hi, this is Ken Griffey Jr.
Lets play Major League Baseball.
Can i get a hot dog over here?
PhilKenSebben - May 13, 2008
best game ever
bon_ton - May 13, 2008
Greatest. Game. Ever.
edddgar - May 13, 2008
HIT IT HERE JUNIOR!
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
John Jaha just hit 86 Home Runs for me.
PhilKenSebben - May 13, 2008
I still play that game
MFAN - May 13, 2008
I approve of this
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Call call call me Junior / Call call call me Junior
JI - May 13, 2008
Guardado in for the save.
Hey now.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
To reiterate once again:
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
How in the fuck did we get 700. Ever.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
700 runs scored this season
Nick S - May 13, 2008
I would like to save and quit please
Nick S - May 13, 2008
Can I quit without saving?
CapSea - May 13, 2008
What do the Mariners have in common with black people?
They both get beat by Texas Rangers
Robert - May 13, 2008
wow
CapSea - May 13, 2008
lyleleander - May 13, 2008
Thats creepy
Fin - May 13, 2008
LOL
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
"Mexicans" work much better.
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
I have to agree with Jeff
I think that went a little too far.
Fin - May 13, 2008
Is that what Jeff was saying?
I’m confused.
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
I just wanted to use the .gif
I don’t get offended by anything.
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
That's what I thought.
Especially since the original joke wasn’t even racist. Just race-related.
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
Ben Broussard had an affair with Steve Traschel
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Oh don't be a flaming fa....
USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
DSFARGEG
PhilKenSebben - May 13, 2008
I don't know why but that reminds me of this.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
That's hilarious
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
Gameday disagrees but that looked very, very, very low.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Gameday is correct
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Hm, looked way lower.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
PITCHf/x is unthinkably accurate
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Yeah, I'm not doubting you.
I’m just a little surprised.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
In case you're curious
PITCHf/x has an error of 2.2 inches.
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
That's ridiculous
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
And they still want it to be better
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Are we gonna get a summary post of the summit?
Or are you able to share any of that?
Goose - May 13, 2008
Most of the talks were way too smart for me
however, if you’re so inclined, you can download the presentations here. I’m glad I went, but it’s been a while since I felt like the dumbest guy in the room.
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Awesome.
Goose - May 13, 2008
I sees a Jeff
Robert - May 13, 2008
I don't see how they can't use this sort of technology for bats.
I created programs in HS that did pattern recognition on live video. We recreated a pitch f/x style system (not nearly as complicated) for tennis balls, and then converted it to the rackets with limited success. If we were able to post a camera directly above like they do in baseball, I could easily see getting swing speed, angle, rotational axis, etc.
Could you imagine being able to solve the “Clement Bat Speed” controversy once and for all? Not to mention the ability to fine-tune swings at early stages in a career? It would make the “PED Spike” look like a speedbump.
Faux - May 13, 2008
HITf/x is on the way
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Awesome
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - May 13, 2008
That's for batted balls.
Any rumors on the swing end of it?
Faux - May 13, 2008
Don't believe so
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Damn.
It would be like the tag tracking they use for video game capture, but for every single AB ever. Just think about the video game realism, for starters. I wonder if they have any money to throw at a lapsed programmer to buy HD cams and a fibre channel array for development?
Faux - May 13, 2008
Speaking of video game realism
the SportVision people are talking to game developers about involving PITCHf/x. If they arrive at an agreement, you won’t be hitting any more video game fastballs. You’ll be hitting real ones.
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
That rocks.
Although I think the batting realism needs to catch up first.
Faux - May 13, 2008
That'll be awesome if it comes out for Wii.
Fin - May 13, 2008
Is that verbal irony?
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
That looked reallllyyy low
Screw you Guardado
Why do we keep getting owned by ex-Mariners?
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Someday that o will migrate over to p
And we’ll have a complete internet phenomena sentence.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYS
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Only 2 wins in May.
Nice.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
Four Errors
Grade A-quality defense.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
The rights to Stephen Strasburg are currently ours
edddgar - May 13, 2008
Holy.Shit.
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Wow.
We just got owned by Guardado… I think it’s time to take a little break.
Faux - May 13, 2008
I am going to enjoy going to many Aquasox games this summer
Nick S - May 13, 2008
Time for the postgame show.
My favorite part of the game.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
Hey Eddie...
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Awesome Game
Slica - May 13, 2008
ALL YOUR BASE.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
This team actually might make me puke.
Guardado striking out Ichiro to end the game on the night after Vasquez hits a walk-off against Morrow in the 11th…
What the hell is happening?
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Well, we're kinda not good.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
aaaahhhh
I’ve never seen so much fail by a baseball team before! Seriously!
vkut79 - May 13, 2008
Griffey trade:
Will be for the draft pick of 2009.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
Damn good thing
That’s not possible.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
PTBNL
You can’t do that?
CapSea - May 13, 2008
No.
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
ah.
Did not know that.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
A PTBNL would never be a first round pick.
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Yes it can.
But he has to have been picked first.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
In other words, the Billy Beane method
Selected Jeremy Bonderman in the first round but was used as the PTBNL in a trade later, but he couldn’t be named as the PTBNL until after a year from his draft date.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
So that's how he got rid of Bonderman
never knew that. Was it in the Weaver deal?
seattlebruin - May 14, 2008
Yeah
There’s a bit about it in Moneyball
Graham MacAree - May 14, 2008
Yeah, I knew he drafted him in Moneyball and that was how I knew about the Weaver deal
but I always assumed he just stole Weaver from the Tigers and passed him to NY for Lilly(?)
seattlebruin - May 14, 2008
Wait, I'm confused though
The book depicts Beane as being extremely upset about the pick – was he always picked to be a PTBNL or did Beane just decide to get rid of him as soon as his scouts drafted him on accident?
seattlebruin - May 14, 2008
The latter
Graham MacAree - May 14, 2008
Not now.
In order for that to work, the PTBNL has to already be on your team. If it’s a fresh draftee, you have to wait an entire year before you can name him the PTBNL.
Thus, even if it were possible at this point (and it isn’t), the Reds wouldn’t get anybody until 2010.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
Woo
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
CRUSHY!
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Kerney?
Needs more Lawrence Jackson.
The Typical Idiot Fan - May 13, 2008
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Tatupu looks drunk.
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
needs more Rocky Bernard beating up women
MFAN - May 13, 2008
Needs more Brian Russell.
...
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Meh.
At least it beats using Babs at that position.
BrianL - May 13, 2008
I was being "verbally ironic"
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Only a real futbol team can save us
Frosty Raptor - May 13, 2008
Haha.
Kerney: Aww come on man, gimme a hug!
Warner: Jesus Christ I’m dead.
BrianL - May 13, 2008
Oh, is the game over?
CapSea - May 13, 2008
I'm not sure if I'm alone on this or anything
But I want to have Grady Sizemore’s baby.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
....
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
CapSea - May 13, 2008
Jealous, are we?
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
butthole is 14.
So… No.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
Hey, how many times do we have to go over this
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
butthol is fourtn
So… No.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
Thank you.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Man that is young
I thought Jeff had a link for under 18 year olds to go to.
Fin - May 13, 2008
Yeah
I’m such an outlaw.
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
My bedroom?
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
oh shit hold on
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
HAHAHHAHAHHAHA
CapSea - May 13, 2008
I think you mean...
only if they’re Anne Frank
Faux - May 13, 2008
Here it is
Fin - May 13, 2008
hang on
here
Fin - May 13, 2008
Wait... What?
Is this some new kind of rickroll?
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/4/12/392192/4-12-open-game-thread
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
It takes an enormous commitment of time to keep up with all the inside jokes.
I should probably stop trying, before the rest of my life starts to crumble around me. I’m just waiting for the day I see one of the regulars around here on Intervention.
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
*slow clap working up to applause*
ningwers - May 13, 2008
Yours < Jarrod's
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Rec'd
BrettJMiller - May 13, 2008
Brilliant.
BrianL - May 13, 2008
I believe there is a very long waiting list
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
I think he lives in Everett on the off season
you can stalk him then.
Fin - May 13, 2008
Seriously?
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
super serial
Fin - May 13, 2008
You owe Al Gore a comission for that
Frosty Raptor - May 13, 2008
lyleleander - May 13, 2008
You know what's ironic?
Rain on your wedding day.
eponymous_coward - May 13, 2008
Rangers are now 3.5 games out of first.
Fascinating.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
Or when my girlfriend goes down on me in a theater
??
lyleleander - May 13, 2008
You got your songs mixed up
Go Manures - May 13, 2008
I intentionally made that mistake to heighten the absurdity
and, obviously, you didn’t get that…
lyleleander - May 13, 2008
Quick fix
Haven’t you people ever heard of closing the goddamn door?
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Wouldn't that be awesome if Paul Allen bought the Mariners?
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
That depends
The middle of this decade? Not too kind to the Blazers.
Frosty Raptor - May 13, 2008
The Blazers seem to be doing just fine
they’re probably one of the three or four best run teams in the NBA
seattlebruin - May 14, 2008
Also:
So, that means we’ve lost series to the Rangers AND the Orioles.
And yet, oddly enough, people seem to think this team is still capable of contending.
I’m guessing we’ll be cured of that by the All-Star break
eponymous_coward - May 13, 2008
At least Geoff Baker finally sees the light.
redwolf75 - May 13, 2008
Oddly enough, that's not comforting me.
eponymous_coward - May 13, 2008
Rays' next two games:
Shields vs. Mussina
Kazmir vs. Kennedy
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
heheheheheh....
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
Rays have the series in the bag
Woot!
Fin - May 13, 2008
Didn't we say in the same situation a week and a half ago?
Frosty Raptor - May 13, 2008
I don't think we've said that in 7 years
MFAN - May 13, 2008
1-2 dropkick
kentroyals5 - May 13, 2008
Then NYY gets Santana vs Britton when they get done with that.
Faux - May 13, 2008
15-26
Worst start of the season since 2004.
Mariners are favored to win the division.
ThundaPC - May 13, 2008
Who's laughing now, Geoff Baker?
Mariners
arewere favored to win the division.Fin - May 13, 2008
We're not.
CapSea - May 13, 2008
They were talking about Iron Maiden on the Diamondbacks broadcast.
....ah…..too…much….awesome….in…..one….place….overload overload overload
Goose - May 13, 2008
I get the sense from Mark Grace that he has low beer standards
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Alot of the times he annoys the hell out of me.
And then something he says something totally awesome. Like talking about BABIP or Win Expectancy, or referencing dppb.org(which him and Sutton both read).
Unfortunatly, there’s alot more of the former than the latter.
Goose - May 13, 2008
errr sometimes
Goose - May 13, 2008
http://dppb.org/
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Yikes
Make that dbbp.org
Goose - May 13, 2008
That's much less interesting
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
I imagine there isn't much that's more interesting
than positive psychotherapy in Bulgaria.
Goose - May 13, 2008
How can you tell?
Up on your Bulgarian, are you? Or do you mean less interesting that Mark Grace would be speaking of it?
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
The Society for Positive Psychotherapy in Bulgaria ( DPPB ) is the third in size (with Germany and Russia taking the first two places ) among the National Societies within the framework of ICPP and EFCPP . It was established in 1993 and registered as a non-profit organization on 18.11.1993.
In its systematic activities SPPB corresponds to Bulgaria ’ s current needs for qualified psychotherapists and the universal accessibility to psychotherapeutical help.
Positive Psychotherapy as a therapeutical method is the fourth biggest in Germany ( in terms of popularity among patients and remuneration by the German social security system ). The method has been pioneered by Prof. Dr.med. Nossrat Peseschkian , who was born in Iran, but has been working and living in Germany since 1954 . After graduation, he has specialized in the fields of Psychiatry and Psychoanalyses in Germany, Switzerland and the USA.
The method of Positive Psychotherapy was introduced in Germany in 1968 and since then has achieved worldwide acknowledgement. Over 60 independent Centers of Positive Psychotherapy are currently functioning in more than 20 countries in Europe , Asia , North America and Africa. They are all part of the International Centers for Positive Psychotherapy ( ICPP ) network and European Federation of Centers for Positive Psychotherapy (EFCPP ) based in Wiesbaden ( Germany ), and through them – of the European Wide Accrediting Organization ( EWAO ) and the European Association for Psychotherapy . ( EAP ).
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
Fascinating.
Third largest, really? In the whole ICPP framework? That’s impressive.
Can’t argue with that.
The Alaskan - May 13, 2008
Now give that a Mark Grace voiceover
breathtaking.
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2008
New Rickroll... ftw...
http://oh.no/
qrsouther - May 13, 2008
Randy Johnson wins #287.
And has 4648 strikeouts. Needs 25 to pass Clemens.
Goose - May 13, 2008
Maybe we should kidnap Felix
and say that he won’t come back if the Mariners don’t get better.
Coach Owens - May 13, 2008
[looks around]
no one here…
hopefully my fucking computer is working now
chinn - May 13, 2008
Sorry
your computer was first on the list of things I’m fucking today.
You’re slated for 11:45.
BrianL - May 13, 2008
I figured it out
FelixS and ErikS are pitching now. :(
eponymous_coward - May 13, 2008
First place in the Strasberg race OH YEAH
Jordan of Boise - May 13, 2008
Huh. King Felix thinks accountability is for sissies and Canadians
Or so Geoff Baker perceives this…
”...Hernandez, unlike Ibanez, again did his best to avoid the media for as long as he could. He’s been doing it all week, since helping to ignite that brawl with the Rangers. This time, he ignored a media relations staffer’s repeated, polite requests to come talk, purposely hanging out in an off-limits area for 45 minutes after the game until all but a Seattle radio reporter had left. Writers have deadlines and pitchers are made well aware of them and usually come out to speak quickly unless they are receiving treatment. Media members will rarely linger in a clubhouse more than a half-hour after a game. Players don’t like it. Neither do we.
But Hernandez was being purposely difficult, making a team employee chase him around. He did the same stuff to other employees in spring training and, I’ve got to admit, it bugs me to see a 22-year-old allowed to do that. Bugs me that anyone would, especially putting out employees of his team doing their jobs. His team, not mine. I know how much talent Hernandez has, but he has accomplished very little in this game.”
Frosty Raptor - May 13, 2008
I really could care less.
So long as he goes out to the mound and does his thing, he could beat up every reporter during post-game and I won’t give a rat’s ass.
BrianL - May 13, 2008
Oh shut the fuck up Baker.
I’m tired of your fucking shit.
Goose - May 13, 2008
At least we still have Larry Stone
who gave props to the USSM on his spot with Groz and Gas today. Pretty much manned up and said that Dave and Derek got this one right.
BrianL - May 13, 2008
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