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The Mariner front office can't evaluate hitters. They love to stock up on aggressive, free-swinging types who put the ball in play and rarely walk, seemingly ignorant of the fact that the most important things a guy can do at the plate are get on base and hit for power.

The Mariner front office can't evaluate pitchers. They have zero understanding of replacement level, they put too much stock in ERA, and they buy into labels like "proven winner" and "innings eater" instead of trying to figure out what a guy can provide to the team with his actual performance.

The Mariner front office can't evaluate defense. Raul Ibanez is the everyday left fielder.

Our only source of happiness at the moment is the hope that sometime down the road there'll be people in the front office who are the complete and utter opposite of the people in there now.

Is that unhealthy? I think that's unhealthy.

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Of course it's unhealthy

What kind of idiot roots for his team to lose? Me.

Although, I suppose it would be more unhealthy to delude myself into believing that this organization will ever accomplish anything the way it is currently constructed.

Someday?

Not until Lincoln/Armstrong leave. This problem stays so long as they do.

Back before the start of the 05 season

We had Howard and Chuck speak at the the stadium employee orientation and they told all of us that :

“People dont go to games to watch their teams win, they go to have fun. People dont remember the final score of of their first ballgame but they remember how much fun it was to meet the moose and watch the hydros. And that’s the lasting memory that we want to give them”

I just about put a bullet in his ape head.

I hope you're not serious.
He told me the same story on the way to Canada this weekend :(
At the start of '05 they thought the losing of 2004 was a

thing of the past.

I’m hoping that after so many losing seasons since then, they’ve started to change their paradigm.

You have no idea how serious they take those ballpark surveys
Hear that, Corco?
What did you work as?

That’s the insider info we need to pretty much back the argument that they don’t give a shit about winning but just to make money.

The sad part is they aren't even doing that.

They’re spending $100+ Million on this team. If they only cared about money, there are much cheaper ways to fail.

Fielder

Basically doing teenage bitch jobs around the stadium but since I got some inside info every now and then I can confirm our worst fears are in fact true.

Basically doing teenage bitch jobs

If only Washburn jokes were still funny.

Willie hit on my girlfriend once
It's always the scrappy guys.

I know a guy who’s girlfriend banged Jorge Cantu while they were dating.

Point taken from this

Don’t get close to any of the players. They will hit on your girlfriends. Isn’t Willie married too?

I knew a ballgirl who not only Yuni hit on (or should I say, asked out), but also some of the players spread rumors about having sex with her and that threatened her job security. I mean who are they going to believe, the FOF or a easily-replaceable ball girl? I think she said she never wanted to work there again after the experience.

I remember the score of my first baseball game

...well no I don’t but I remember that Erik Hanson threw a shutout and it was awesome, and Kreuger lost the next day and it blew.

We lost to the Yankees 5-2

The team had traded Randy Johnson the night before and I missed A-Rod’s two run HR because of the idiot ticket taker couldn’t do his job. My second game, Clemens shut us out 12-0. I should have taken this as a warning.

I was at that game.
A guy in RF hung a banner that said

HEY WOODY SUCK MY JOHNSON

it was awesome

Maybe it wouldnt matter if we remembered the score if they were less stupid
That trade was awesome ever though we were all pissed.

..as awesome as it could be under the circumstances anyway

Yes but not pissing Randy off would have been less stupid
I know.

8 years and I never got to see him pitch, if I had gotten into baseball a year sooner I would have gotten to see his no hitter. Fuck me for being six years old. >:(

God bless you retrosheet

Hanson!
Kreuger >:(

I remember Randy Johnson losing to the Orioles (and possibly getting lots of strikeouts?)

But at the time I really didn’t give a damn about baseball.

you bastard
They're old. They can't last forever.
Old people live a long time these days

Howie and Chuck each probably have at least a couple decades left.

They need a dash of JI's blood in their veins
He's type P pistive
rec'd for possible racism
I just hope our new GM wears a Bill Bavasi mask so we can trick Fontaine into staying.
But where would Bavasi take him?

There aren’t a lot of teams looking for dumb GMs at the moment. I’d worry about Engle before Fontaine anyway.

I don't worry that Bavasi would take him

as much as I worry that Bavasi’s firing might spur Fontaine to go work somewhere better. From what I understand, the two are very close.

Note: I know jack shit about this. I just like the idea of someone wearing a Bill Bavasi mask.

I don't think Fontaine is that big of a loss in the overall picture.
I would be discouraged by the loss of his awesome mustache
Fontaine's a cool guy

but yeah, gameplanning an org’s scouting and player development isn’t a ninja-like science.

Any chance that Engle goes when Bavasi does?
He was here before Bavasi

so I doubt there’s much connection.

I don't think this team's baseball philosophy will change until Yamauchi/Nintendo of America surrender control
No

Howie and Chuck just need to disappear and their replacement would need to be someone who is willing to let baseball people run the team and stick to the business end.

Yamauchi-san is not necessarily the problem. Of course he wants the damn team to maximize their profit margins. The problem is that Howie and Chuck think they know how to build a ballclub, and they don’t, but they have ownership of the ballclub and they get to meddle.

Is Yamauchi even still around?

Regardless, I’ll give you three guesses as to who demanded the Johjima extension. Hint: it wasn’t Bavasi.

You edited this?
Shhh
umm. I... uh... meant.... um...

did you REMEMBER to edit this… um… because I thought you may um… have spelled extension wrong. And you didn’t…. yeah, that’s what I meant.

I'm beginning to think that I am good typer and my only problem is lack of admin power.
Rec'd for trying to pass off problems on lack of admin powers
Every now and then I get paranoid ideas where I think people with internet powers who don't like me take comments and blogs I post and insert typos just to make me look stupid
I feel like this 100%.
I better get some sort of admin status for my role as curator

Do you guys realize boring you were back in 2005. And I’m reading every last comment.

When you are granted the ower to edit posts

you will get one free rec for every one of my typos you fix.

4,973,284 recs later...
For example

the above post could be one free rec

I wouldnt have anytime to do my job
You won't win the rec title if you don't want it the most.
Every now and then I'll read those old threads

What a relatively muted bunch we were. If we had any idea what game threads would become….

that was before the days of recs and auto refresh

these are new fangled faster times

We must be more vigilant in these post SBN 2.0 times
5.4.2008

Neva eva forget

I think that is when the season died

Even though I know that was the same day that Jeff’s account got hacked into.

He didn't spell anything wrong. It was content,

And all he did was change the blame. He originally seemed to be saying Yamauichi was to be blamed for everything. Then he reworded it to ensure that Yamauchi was really only to be blamed for Kenji.

At least Johjima is good

And at least [COATHANGER] is only demanding we offer such extensions to good players.

Problem is

the from what I can tell Howie and Chuck are pretty good at making money. I also don’t really think Howie and Chuck care if they can build a “winning” ballclub because they are just trying to make money. Sure it’d be nice to win a lot of games but they don’t want to take the risk of losing a lot of games (although this has bit them in the ass a couple times). Mediocre teams can make a lot of money in baseball. They probably won’t get fired until they lose a lot of money and I doubt this is gonna happen unless we turn into the next KC Royals.

Nothing even that radical

Chris Larson is the answer to our problems

I have quietly mourned the 2008 season and moved on, and for one accept our incompetent overlords

I think that’s healthy.

Strasburg '09!
Don't forget how much they value intangibles over talent
And yet somehow fail to properly evaluate the intangibles as well

otherwise why would there be such a chemistry problem?

Bavasi said there is no clubhouse leadership.

.... In the team that he specifically designed in order to have good clubhouse leadership. Hm….

It's like he didn't learn anything from 2004 at all
Maybe he was dropped as a baby.
Buzzie exposed him to too much smoke and drink at a young age.
You don't turn into an agnostic overnight.
Jeff's post make me so hot

When Miss Piggy is your girlfriend, that's really the better option
Not a fan of BBW's?

More fat for the hat?

More cushion for the pushin'?
It's her personality

No one that ugly has the right to that big of an ego.

Old money will do that to people
Yeah that's the other problem

I prefer the company of poor people

Less money for food
Oh Sylar, how your GIFs disturb me
rec'd for a barely acceptable amount of pervyness
this place is turning into one giant circle rec fest
Your recs feel so good, let me return the favor.
You know what they say about people who rec

They grow hair on their keyboards.

Your just jealous because your falling behind in the standings.
Rec'd to keep Matthew behind in the standings
rec'd to further Matthews embarrassment
DO NOT ABUSE THE REC BUTTON
Rec'd for dictatorship
Just pray Corco doesn't become interested in rec'ing.
I'm all for it if he recs my posts
Don't worry I didnt actually rec'd him

gotta share a room with him tonight

Matthew?
I wish

Plain old Brett tonight

You were much more excited last night >:(
Your much to easy fool when drunk
You can't toy with my emotions like that!

You know I really care about you!

You can't toy with my ugly meter like that!
That's it, you're not getting an action tonight buddy.
Get a room!
Seriously

Pics or didn’t happen!....wait, nevermind, don’t want to see that.

Robert's got plenty of pictures and a few videos from last night....
And we already gone over how those are never seeing the light of day
It's cool, I could just describe them.

Why did you think I was Arthur Rhodes anyway?

Everyone has a bit of arthur rhodes in them
According to Graham though Arthur Rhodes doesn't have breasts like me
Actually we've already done that
Use it!
If only we weren't already sharing the couch.

Because then I’d make him sleep on the couch. Of course doing that now would just be rewarding his bad behavior

delete delete delete
You're much more fun when you're passed out drunk
WHY ARE MY RELATIONSHIPS LL OT FODDER?
Maybe you should start looking at yourself.

Besides, who knows how much longer you’ll have this relationship.

We've gone over this

I’m just using you.

How is it possible that you're not the bitch here?
I'm putting pretzels in your bed
Joke's on you it's your bed too

Yes I’ve forgiven you.

But only because you're very good at a lot of things...
The only thing that would make this more awesome

is if you were sharing one computer.

...

Rec'd despite lack of words or jpeg.
You can't be the mistress of the overlord and not expect privacy.
God damn it

I was so close to not sharing a bed with you but I was too drunk to just say “Can I crash at your place Lindsey?”

Shitty.

I feel like Mark Teahen :(
With this man?

God I'm sexy
Better that than this

Better mine than most things. I'm like five tens

If you take out all my extra fat

It's okay, I rec'd you

Why is Batman sodomizing the skeleton?
I thought it was a tie fighter pilot
You're missing the important part.

You know, the sodomy part.

Aren't you in the same room?
I reject real communication
No thats just the girls that your trying to talk to
In which case it would be the opposite.

Fuck beer googles + ugly girls at a bachelorette party

Alright, so I'm still a bit confused by this distinction

Is it:
A) The Mariners don’t understand that Ibanez is bad at defense

or

B) The Mariners acknowledge Ibanez is bad at defense, but don’t realize the consequence of having a truly awful defense

I’m guessing it might be a little from column A and a little from column B, but holy shit have they seen Ibanez play defense in Yankee Stadium recently?

I don't think they know

I think they see him as an adequate left fielder.

I think it's a little of both

Combined with a healthy dose of not giving a shit about the team winning, only getting kids and non fans into the ballpark.

Raul Ibanez is an example of the fact that they don't get how important defense is
Jose Lopez's contract is hilarious
# $0.125M annually in physical performance bonuses: $25,000 for passing each of 4 in-season physical tests (body-fat percentage, 60-yard sprint, 20-yard shuttle run & vertical jump), plus $25,000 for passing 4 in 1 year # award bonus: $50,000 for being voted to start All Star game, $25,000 for All Star selection

A very large part of me wonders how high Loafie has to jump to earn the $25,000. Talk about literally jumping for money…

They should televise that.
Matt Kemp is not a good centerfielder.
So what's the point of rooting for this team until current ownership is shifted?

Hilarious failure? I guess that’s something.

For the pride of not being a douchey frontrunner.
and reading Jeff

That is, until this orginization drives him to drink a gallon of Everclear and his liver explodes.

They're robbing me of my will to write
pictures are easier
Two months from now even the WE charts will be in .gif format
Here's a template, just photoshop in the correct dates:

You said it was more fun when we sucked.

I agreed. I thought we would be friends. Why are we not friends?

It used to be

I think I’m about ready for a good team now

We can replace you

And in case he's not up for it

at least we could say fag again
He'd kill that meme by himself
fag expectancy chart
Biggest suckfest renamed-------> Today's Maoy of Faggotry
Sounds communist
Do all bloggers have the same mustache
They do if you are good at MSpaint.
I think I'm going to be a douchebag when I'm 85 anyway.
Applying logic to sports fandom is never going to work anyways.
Hoping they somehow pull another 88-74 or better record out of their asses one season

even though the team most likely won’t deserve it.

Because it's the team we root for

Why didn’t any of the long timers give up on the team when Smulyan or Argyros owned the team?

hay is is vitor artinez

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

Hay is is Mallio Ordoyez
mine was in real time
TV viewers don't know what they're missing
Yesterday I didn't notice, today I wished I had a puppy so I could beat it.
Thank god for vacation

I finally got to see it.

Can anyone record it for us TV viewers?

needs more video clip.
Put it in .ji format
Hello, this is Victor Martinez.
I'm seriously considering getting a one moth mlb.tv subscription for vitor artinez alone.
DON'T DO IT
Actually, it's more to watch good baseball.

But vitor artinez is legitimately a check in the ‘for’ column. For now.

It takes a few games to wear down your will.
In other news

Wilkerson hits a GS today. And to think I couldn’t picture him hitting a HR. He’s probably happy to be out of this stupid organization now.

Hey, he'd be better than...

...oh right

Any HR that they count in meters isnt real
I was gonna say that WFB would be a better RF than Wilkerson

and he might be…until I looked at willie’s stats this year and it made me laugh. His OBP is over 2x higher than his SLG. I really hope this continues.

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