I figured changes were going to have to come after getting swept by the Nationals, but never did I think it would be Bavasi this soon. Is this good news for us? A lot depends on who the new hire eventually is, the search will "take place immediately" but we'll see if they're able to get much accomplished in-season if they want to bring in outside candidates.
It remains to be seen if Bavasi is just the latest and greatest (so far) scapegoat to this season or if there was actual fear that he might further jeopardize the future of the ballclub in order to try and save his job by dint of damaging trades come July. Bavasi did a decent job of trading when he was ditching veterans for prospects, but who knows.
One thing this does worry me is that firing a GM mid-season instead of waiting until after the season likely means the true heads of affiars, Lincoln and Armstrong, seem unlikely to go anywhere since they're likely the ones doing the hiring for the new GM and while it's rare enough for a team to fire it's General Manager mid-season, it is rarer still for a change to take place in team presidency mid-season.
Wait and see I suppose.
0 recs | 343 comments
I know it can get worse
But let us have one more dream, Matt.
Jesus.
The Typical Idiot Fan - June 16, 2008
What if my dream is that it does get worse?
Jordan of Boise - June 16, 2008
Do we have to change threads now?
JI - June 16, 2008
Naw, I like the one we have already
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
I remember running into Bavasi at Green Lake
and striking up a conversation with him. Really nice guy. He didn’t even mind my joke about dropping by an adult softball game to scout for new talent. It’s strange to see this finally happen, but it really needed to.
melack - June 16, 2008
Bavasi is one of those people who it's extremely easy for him to be successful
regardless of his current job performance. At some point though, exceptionally poor job performance has to override being a good guy, and unfortunately, Bill reached that point about two years ago.
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
*Extremely easy to ROOT for him to be successful
wow that one missing word changed the whole complexion of that statement.
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
Well
He deserved it. I am shocked the guy who gave Wash/Silva/Batista/Speizio and so on big contracts with some of the trades he has made has lasted this long.
PhilKenSebben - June 16, 2008
Waaaaait a minute!
I agree with the fact that the Silva, Washburn, and Spezio deals were god awful, but we have to give Bavasi some credit for getting Batista. Obviously he’s sucking horribly this season, and he wasn’t exactly great last season, but I honestly think that Batista has had a great effect on Felix’s development. Cheesy as it sounds, thats WHY WE GOT BATISTA. So, he won 16 games (although that’s a total fluke) and has been a great influence on Felix. Pure luck on Bavasi’s part, but we shouldnt give him crap about that move. That’s what Vidro/Sexson are here for.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Felix has regressed as a pitcher.
If getting Batista was aimed toward making Felix better than that’s also a massive failure on Bavasi.
Matthew - June 16, 2008
Are you referring to the fact that Felix throws too many fastballs?
I don’t follow.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Lost movement on his two seamer
Groundball rates down. Walk rate up. Strikeout rate lower. Slider abandoned.
The Typical Idiot Fan - June 16, 2008
That's odd.
Batista loves his slider.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Maybe he stole it from Felix.
Llewdor - June 16, 2008
Yeah, but that would make him better.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Give a really good gun to a shitty marksman.
Llewdor - June 16, 2008
Not to reference ERA, but.... (I am a bad person)
Why the decline in ERA then? I’ve read Dave’s article about evaluation pitcher talent, so I understand ERA is a bad measure of that. Has his LOB% gone up? That’s a good skill to have.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Luck?
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
Eh, good point.
Just trying to give Bavasi and Miguel some credit…..where they evidently don’t deserve any…
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
How this comment would read on USSM (and here if admins could edit comments)
Not to reference ERA, but [referencing ERA is stupid].
Matthew - June 16, 2008
Thanks......
That’s why I am posting here, and not at USS mariner. Stupidity is punished less here.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
No it's not
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
It's punished much more actually.
JI - June 16, 2008
LATE
...and LL shares mods with USSM fwiw
JI - June 16, 2008
Eh.... I think he's saying it's punished less here because the admins have less power
and can’t punish it
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
We can, however, delete comments.
Matthew - June 16, 2008
I get it, I get it.
Never again will I reference ERA.
Or WHIP for that matter.
Lesson learned.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
No, it's OK to reference it, because they're not entirely worthless
just don’t try to judge a pitcher on them =)
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
Oh good.
So I can still like Jorge Campillo and his 2.17 ERA?
Its sooo low!
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
No
You can’t like them because of their ERA, or their ERA+, or their WHIP.
You can like them for their GB/FB%, K%, BB% and the like though
OlSalty - June 16, 2008
We're not threatening you you know
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
The motherbrain!
Garces - June 16, 2008
Best. Nickname. Ever.
Llewdor - June 16, 2008
Houseobamatron.
JI - June 16, 2008
NO POLITICS
Eyebrows - June 16, 2008
It's the nickname.
JI - June 16, 2008
I know that!
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Only if we refresh the pages
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
I never close my browser windows until comments are turned off.
JI - June 16, 2008
What's worse, a comment deletion or being mocked unceasingly?
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Negative recs is worse than either
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
But only you have that talent.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
I would say the latter.
Hey guize lookit this guy’s stats! He has a ZERO ERA in 2 INNINGS!
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Graham doesn't fuck around
You’re shitty comments will be disposed of so quickly it will be as if they never existed…Unless you are being a total douche.
JI - June 16, 2008
YOUR DAMMIT
carry on
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
LFOJL bait confirmed.
JI - June 16, 2008
Has that worked yet?
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Personally I don't think ERA is retarded to reference.
Obviously it’s not the best reference, but we can infer that if one pitcher on the Mariners has a 2.5 ERA average (without much variation) for 3 years, and one has a 4.5 for the last 3 years, the 2.5 is much better without question.
Now if you’re basing it from different teams (defense, park, league), it gets fudgy, but I’d still have to say a 2.5 era guy is better than a 4.5 era guy (unless it’s like Florida (can’t think of a pitching nl park with great defense right now) 2.5 era and Texas 4.5, the 4.5 guy could be better, but I’ll still argue that in general, it’s a ok guideline/reference point.
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
You're wrong so hey
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
UNCEASING MOCKERY
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Yes, that's what Graham is here for.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
One of these days he'll slip up and say something stupid
And we’ll all pounce
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
Someone told me he drunk posted once.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
He was still smarter than everyone except maybe Matthew by a long shot.
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/5/6/481415/hahah-facuk-captain-tripos
JI - June 16, 2008
Dear god that's amazing
I respect Graham a whole lot more now.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
No wonder he did not mock my post.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Anyone got drunk Matthew bookmarked?
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
This really is an LL requirement, isn't it?
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
We weren't kidding on that whiskey night..
seattlesundevil - June 16, 2008
Considering I got crap for posting I thought maybe you were.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Thats cause the regulars were drunk and away from computers at the time
Robert - June 16, 2008
I sure hope so.
I’ve never seen it.
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2006/4/8/132249/5017
JI - June 16, 2008
Thank you.
This has to be one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/4/20/427863/your-sanitized-ll-hof-ball
JI - June 16, 2008
Updateeeeeee
and NOLAmarinergirl, read “Thread from another universe.”
Best thread in LL history
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
That one I was there for.
I watched it go by with my mouth hanging open.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
I don't think I can start on this.
I have to keep the office door open and people might wonder if I collapse into hysterics.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Fantastic.
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
I love how one of his comments has 11 recs
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
I love how that comment contains the word ahadfhjkh.
Or perhaps that’s a phrase.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
I broke it out during the DRaysBay invasion.
JI - June 16, 2008
We strike back tonight.
Although the numbers won’t be on our side.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
Maybe you should invade while your troops are still awake.
JI - June 16, 2008
Most of them aren't ready for battle.
Only a handful.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
Telling us when you're going to attack seems like a poor idea
...or does it?
JI - June 16, 2008
Gives us time to drink more in preparation.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
It's a ploy by our Rays overlords to strike fear into our hearts before attacking
so they can win despite underwhelming numbers
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
We shall ride furries into battle.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
So by ride you mean...
ningwers - June 16, 2008
Giggle while they gnaw on Coach's legs.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
We've got an army of ponies.
Or perhaps poines.
We might unleash the NSFW ones.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Summoning LFoJL!
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
I swear I didn't make this
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
OlSalty - June 16, 2008
Hot dude on dude action
Yes!
JI - June 16, 2008
I now regret having said anything
ningwers - June 16, 2008
Only BrianL is terrified of furries
the rest of us shall destroy you in the aftermath of the glorious Bavasi firing!
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
We will also use the Fiddle Cat as a celebratory tool.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Fiddler Cat made it's debut on DRB
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
We traded the "Percy in , Game Over!" jpeg
to DRaysBay for Fiddle Cat and we have never looked back.
JI - June 16, 2008
I'd like to think
You dealt the furry .gifs and stoned Raymond for the cat.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
While this may be factually true
I get sole credit, if it’s “Percy In, Game Over!”
JI - June 16, 2008
True
Jeff providing stoned Raymond only hurts your campaign.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
I also told you we have few men.
No smart general does that.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
Unless you're lying and have men waiting to ambush
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
We alrerdy know this.
JI - June 16, 2008
You should bring the guy who thinks Griffey is awweseom
so we can rip him to ribbons.
JI - June 16, 2008
If this were anyone but JI, I'd think it was a drunk post...
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
Or he might be referring to his DRB counterpart
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Lazy troops?
We can let you borrow Coach to whip them into shape.
OlSalty - June 16, 2008
We have our own verison of Coach
Who thinks it’s possible for hitters to save power.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
Like a battery?
Jed MC - June 16, 2008
here
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
underrated comment:
JI - June 16, 2008
We stole your Coach .gifs
For later in that thread.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
His reading comprehension explanation is priceless.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Everything he posts is epic.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
Now it's overrated because I just gave you a rec
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
you bastard
JI - June 16, 2008
;)
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
That's classic.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Halogen bats would be pretty interesting
OlSalty - June 16, 2008
Have you seen the price of power these days?
I heard they’re working on hybrid players
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
Admittedly the price of power is much higher
in Seattle than in most other markets this season
ningwers - June 16, 2008
Coach is in hiding till tomorrow
Robert - June 16, 2008
Oh?
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
He's like the kid that runs away from home
Goes 5 blocks, sits on the corner for 30 minutes and heads home like nothing happened.
Robert - June 16, 2008
At least Coach has never asked Beltre to hit shorter home runs
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
While listening to Linkin Park on his iPod
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
We really need to get this right side of the screen thing fixed
Half of our subthreads are unreadable
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
It's for the better
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
Make shorter posts.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
Speaking of fugitive LLers
Edgar for Mayor is now posting on USSM. And….. AK1984 is posting on Geoff’s blog!
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
Wait, did Edgar for Mayor actually get banned?
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
Yeah he did
Graham laid the banhammer down hard.
OlSalty - June 16, 2008
I thought I was pretty reasonable about the whole thing
Oh well
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
GREY HAM IS A NAZI
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
Graham is Max Moseley?
Llewdor - June 16, 2008
I thought you were
It wasn’t the first time he’d been a prick about being moderated a little bit.
OlSalty - June 16, 2008
It's not like he didn't have it coming.
JI - June 16, 2008
Yes
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
I'm in support.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Did he show up at softball?
JI - June 16, 2008
Find Skoorbo and F'nA's and then I'll be happy
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
I s
Eyebrows - June 16, 2008
God damn it
SBN coding ate my title. I merely professed my love for those two morons/trolls.
Eyebrows - June 16, 2008
Underrated comment
Robert - June 16, 2008
Yes, I liked that one too.
I wondered why not sitting in a chair was such a huge issue for him.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
This one is good:
JI - June 16, 2008
What I enjoy is that the posts are from two years ago.
Yet the same comments are still being made.
“Bavasi is not that bad”
“He has been horrible”
And so on, and so on.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Drunk Graham for GM
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
sure, i was expecting that
but give me an example where there are two pitchers on the same team… and one has a better era by 1.00 every year (for 3 years), but is actually pitching worse
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
It's not completely stupid
but there are much better ways… so why be willfully ignorant?
JI - June 16, 2008
that was supposed to be followed by a
“and I’ll give you 10 examples where it is true”
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
Don't deny the man his free will.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Dontrelle Willis and every other Marlin pitcher ever
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
I thought Pat Rapp was for real.
JI - June 16, 2008
Josh Beckett
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
Annibal Sanchez
Josh Johnson
JI - June 16, 2008
Carl Pavano
JI - June 16, 2008
Mark Redman
Ryan Dempster
JI - June 16, 2008
Chuck Smith
JI - June 16, 2008
I feel sorry for the people who drafted Josh Johnson high last year.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Nobody cares about their fantasy teams
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
Livan Hernandez over the past several years
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
His Marlins ERAs were somewhat legit.
JI - June 16, 2008
He could have been a Mariner.
Would that have been a train wreck? Bless the Twins.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Livan Hernandez was by some distance the worst pitcher in baseball last year
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
At least you can count of him to suck.
JI - June 16, 2008
Silva or Livan?
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
If you could choose one.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Livan
JI - June 16, 2008
Damn.
We could have saved 40 million dollars and a few runs.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Livan won't save you runs
Sliva = bland, but ok. Needs good defense behind him.
JI - June 16, 2008
Felix
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
Campillo
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Campillo over Felix?
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
NOOOOOOOOOO
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
OK good
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
Forgive me baseball Gods, for ever having insinuated that!!!!
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Campillo over HoRam
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
I'm better than HoRam
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
Not saying much, but yes he is.
The M’s seem to like to get rid of Campillo/Baek kind of guys.
They never turn into stars after they leave, but they always have at least some success with their new team.
Thingray - June 16, 2008
ANTHONY REYES
over Felix. He’s soooo good.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
*Ken Griffey Jr.
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
his 4.93 era reflects that
as does his 200 innings worth of that suckiness.
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
No it doesn't
His ERA should have been closer to 6.5
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
didn't say it was exact
Just said it was good enough of a measure. 4.93, pretty sucky. 6.5, big time sucky.
2.5 era big time pitcher, really should be 3.3, pretty damn good pitcher still
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
So then
Was Weaver’s ERA accurate in 07, as to what it should have been?
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
No
Weaver was horrifically unlucky.
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
(Although he was still bad)
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
I was gonna say...
So he wasn’t historically the worst pitcher ever… he’s just in actuality a pitcher you’d never want on your team…
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
No
I wanted us to resign him
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
Really?
How would that benefit us? He’s not very cost-effective.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
After sucking that bad, he'd have probably been pretty cheap
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
He'd have come on an absurdly cheap deal and been a fine #5
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
Dang, you're right.
I’‘d take him over the entire back end of our rotation
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Would he have been that absurdly cheap
How come no one has signed him? Is it because his demands are too high?
I suppose 1 year at 4 million of Weaver is infinitely better than 4 years 48 million of silva.
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
He's playing for the Brewers in AAA
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
Oddly, I saw Jeff Weaver pitch twice.
Both times, he four-hit the opposition.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Not anymore, I don't think.
JI - June 16, 2008
He was actually released a few days ago, I believe.
They had to either let him go or call him up, according to his contract.
Teej - June 16, 2008
Jeff Weaver: the Mariners' savior
that felt excruciatingly weird to type.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
I'm not saying he's good or anything
But on like a 2/$4M contract I’d take him over Silva so fast your head would spin
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
but I notice he went to the allstar game
last year as well… THAT is hilarious
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
Holy jesus Livan pitches a bunch
I knew he had a buttload of innings, but… consecutively
234, 200, 240, 227. 216. 233. 255, 246.216. 204. Unless he missed an entire season , too lazy to look.
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
none of those guys
except Dontrelle was good for 3 seasons…
Burnett (not named)
was only good for half a season…
injuries don’t count as a reason of why someone is worse also…
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
Dontrelle was not good
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
Even though his ERA was lower than expected
He was a pretty good pitcher his first three years.
JI - June 16, 2008
Too bad for the Tigers, eh?
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
probably just in general
that he’s worse now than he was before. LD% up, bb’s up or the same, k’s down. He also seems to be a bit of a whiner/problem child) to me… but that’s just me. (Triunfel too apparently)
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
Your last name isn't by chance Hermes is it?
I knew a Taylor Hermes, biggest pothead ever. Grew shrooms in his room, and hung out with a bunch of hippies. Really talented runner though.
LantermanC - June 16, 2008
Nope, it isn't.
sorry
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Matthew's talking about the fact that he's worse this year than last year
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
I'm happy this happened
but I’ll hold off the real celebration until they hire Antonetti/DePodesta/someone of that ilk.
snow - June 16, 2008
Well, happy birthday to me
Kim Ng Kim Ng Kim Ng Kim Ng
Nick S - June 16, 2008
I am still deciding how to interpret this comment.
JI - June 16, 2008
Read: It is my birthday and the firing of Bavasi is an awesome present.
Now we should go hire Kim Ng. Because there’s no way we go get Depodesta.
Nick S - June 16, 2008
DePo might not want to be in Billy's division anyway.
Llewdor - June 16, 2008
If we get Paul DePodesta
I will buy you a birthday present. And I dont even know who you are.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
If you haven't politely asked him to interview here
you’re doing it wrong.
JI - June 16, 2008
On the flip side, if we get Steve Phillips
I will mail you a turd sandwich. And I don’t even know who you are
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
*exploding turd sandwhich
JI - June 16, 2008
She's married, guy....
rtang - June 16, 2008
At least they'd have somehting to talk about.
JI - June 16, 2008
It seems I could have phrased this better
Nick S - June 16, 2008
I hope they post the job on the website somewhere
like Duke and Michigan did for their football head coaching jobs. I applied for the UMich one. Needless to say, I didn;t get it.
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
They're just racist
When’s the last time you’ve seen an Asian football coach?
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
At my alma mater where we just hired Norm Chow to run the offense =)
although I think you were going for head coach…
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
MANGINO HUNGRY
PhilKenSebben - June 16, 2008
Hawaii
posted their Head Coach job online as well.
I have the wrong degree to be a college head coach. Despite all my years of play call training.
bluemax - June 16, 2008
I bought an XBox360 and NCAA '08 out of anger after watching a Karl Dorrell-fest @ Arizona
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
Fuck UA
That is all.
seattlesundevil - June 16, 2008
C-bud came back. I'm stunned, frankly.
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
So...you think Fontaine knew this weekend was a kind of swan song?
I mean, he may not be officially gone, but he’s gotta be gone, right?
That would make an event like this weekend’s a bit odd, but I guess he could really speak his mind.
marc w - June 16, 2008
He never said anything bad about the org, and was defensive of Bavasi
Eyebrows - June 16, 2008
I need to attend one of these gatherings. Circumstances have prevented me from doing so the past two years.
Susheel Ramasahayam - June 16, 2008
Bob Fontaine.....
Ugh.
.Taylor - June 16, 2008
Ugh?
Fontaine was awesome.
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
Still is.
Thingray - June 16, 2008
Ineed.
I was just referring to his talk at the meetup.
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
I missed the meetup.
:( (I’m a sad panda)
Thingray - June 16, 2008
Me too.
Spent the weekend in Vegas at a poker tournament. Good weekend to not pay attention to Mariner baseball, too.
eponymous_coward - June 16, 2008
This is like the 4th or 5th year in a row
where these things are scheduled on weekends I’m out of town.
I’m not one for paranoia, but I think I see a pattern emerging.
marc w - June 16, 2008
Graduation parties for my "step"son and my niece, + fathers day means no LL meeting for Thingray.
Thingray - June 16, 2008
"step"son?
Am I to assume that you in fact use him as a step?
ningwers - June 16, 2008
Couldn't quite figure out how to put it succinctly.
It’s my GF’s son, but her and I have been together for so long, even he says I’m “pretty much his stepdad”.
Thingray - June 16, 2008
I figured it was something like that
I’m just really bored at work right now
ningwers - June 16, 2008
I'm busy but don't feel like working, does that count?
Thingray - June 16, 2008
Close enough
I don’t have anything to do organically, while you don’t have anything to do by force of will
ningwers - June 16, 2008
The force is strong in me.
Thingray - June 16, 2008
You could just say GF's son
or lie to us and say stepson. How would we ever find out?
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
GF's son didn't seem strong enough, and I don't like lying about stuff like that.
I figure after watching him grow up since he was five, he deserved some sort of title, even if I haven’t put a ring on his Mom’s finger yet.
Thingray - June 16, 2008
I know what you mean though. I have a "cousin" who has basically been adopted into my family
I usually just refer to him as cousin though; I’m not one to explain things
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
He probably had no idea
Gomez - June 16, 2008
I'm dreading the inevitable Steve Phillips hire...
Omerta - June 16, 2008
He, that subthread disappeared...
JI - June 16, 2008
*hay
JI - June 16, 2008
Which one?
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
The one that's not there.
JI - June 16, 2008
You made the mistake of refreshing
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
One which I have not
hence my curiosity.
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
presser is on fsn
PhilKenSebben - June 16, 2008
Howard Lincoln looks like a pterodactyl.
JI - June 16, 2008
Go Groz!
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
Boo answer!
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
Howard is open to anything?
oooooh kinky
JI - June 16, 2008
No stone will be unturned
Our next GM will be the biggest crab we can find.
OlSalty - June 16, 2008
an apt comparison
JI - June 16, 2008
Rays question?
I like.
JI - June 16, 2008
Share please...
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
Basically:
Q: “Hey, the Rays are awesome and have no payroll! We’re terrible and have a giant payroll! WTF?”
A: “The Rays had to suck forever to become good. They’re dumb. Winning is contagious, etc.”
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
Someone should have mentioned an ownership change :>
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
Is that a devilish grin?
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
Gotcha.
R.J. Anderson - June 16, 2008
Go to USSM
JI - June 16, 2008
This answer makes me want to murder them both.
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
Whoa, talking up the Rays huh?
OlSalty - June 16, 2008
It's 2008, cocksmoker.
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
The Seattle Mariners:
We don’t tell the truth.
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
This is a confusing graphic:
JI - June 16, 2008
Yeah, because Bill Bavasi directly caused those things
Listing career numbers for those first three guys would be more telling.
Gomez - June 16, 2008
I was thinking Putz was out of place because bavasi signed the other three.
JI - June 16, 2008
FSN's lowlights reel is awesome
PhilKenSebben - June 16, 2008
GO JUMP OFF THE AURORA BRIDIGE YOU LYING SACK OF FUCK!!!!!!
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
YOU ARE COMPLETE NONSENSE YOU SMUG DOUCHENOZZLE!!!
Aaron Campeau - June 16, 2008
they feel bad for us.
PhilKenSebben - June 16, 2008
We should dig up the corpse of Ty Cobb
And get mad at him for not playing up to his historical averages.
OlSalty - June 16, 2008
Well this is one of the better things to see coming back from class..Just a few question though
How long till we see player movemenet and more importantly why did we not do this earlier before we let Bavasi draft?
laxtonto - June 16, 2008
Fontaine made it sound like he and the scouting department make the drafting decisions
ningwers - June 16, 2008
Bavasi and Fontaine are very liekly a package deal.
JI - June 16, 2008
Yeah, from what I understand, Bavasi has little to do with the draft.
Teej - June 16, 2008
Then fire whoever picked a reliever in the first round while your at it
laxtonto - June 16, 2008
Shrug - June 16, 2008
That Rays question was pretty awesome
Too bad he spun it away with that bullshit answer.
OlSalty - June 16, 2008
Great news but I hope we hurry up and find a competent GM before the trade deadline
JLC - June 16, 2008
We should wait till the offseason so we can interview people from other organizations.
I’m sure all Pelekoudas will be asked to do is dump salary regardless of the return so it won’t be too bad.
BrettJMiller - June 16, 2008
Any return is good return for Sexson, Wash, ect.
PhilKenSebben - June 16, 2008
I'm afraid that we'll be trading low on a lot of players.
The players that we want to get rid of have zero trade value anyway.
JLC - June 16, 2008
Jesus Christ
I leave for a recording gig and by the time I get home, the FO has crucified Bavasi. Does this kind of thing happen to every team the Nationals sweep?
BrianL - June 16, 2008
See, this is why you should never go to work and just hang out on LL all day
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
Or work the boring desk job like the rest of us, and just hang out on LL all day.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Amen!
Thingray - June 16, 2008
Hey just out of curiosity, does NOLA stand for New Orleans, Louisiana?
If so you get a ton of cool points from me.
thewyrm - June 16, 2008
Oh my my.
Behind on that one, eh?
Yep, it’s New Orleans.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
I'm a coonass myself.
I thought I was the only Saints/Hornets fan who cheered for the M’s.
thewyrm - June 16, 2008
I love the Hornets, but football isn't my thing.
I’m also not a native Orleanian, just a displaced Oregonian with Washingtonian tendencies.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
I am a born and raised Alaskan, but Louisiana is in my blood.
thewyrm - June 16, 2008
It's in my blood now, too.
My teeth chatter when I leave the state, and I look down my nose in disdain at all food served to me.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
Did you move to New Orleans before or after God tried to kill it?
Llewdor - June 16, 2008
After God smote the baddies.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
God didn't try to destroy New Orleans
A corrupt political structure of good old boys and plain old fashioned human failure however did.
thewyrm - June 16, 2008
They needed God to swing the hammer. They just weakened the shield.
Either way, it’s God doing the killing.
Llewdor - June 17, 2008
According to Jerry Faldwell anyway.
I ZOMG’d myself. No need.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 17, 2008
football?... that's like having a fling once a week...
...baseball is a relationship.
oc - June 16, 2008
A heartwrenchingly painful relationship that you can't extricate yourself from, yes.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 17, 2008
A coonass?
OlSalty - June 16, 2008
Not really. At least, definitely not when we call ourselves or other cajuns a coonass anyway.
thewyrm - June 16, 2008
Typically I do work a desk job
but I took the day off to do another recording session that pays more.
BrianL - June 16, 2008
Planned that day poorly.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
I like money.
They paid me $400 for a 2 hour gig.
BrianL - June 16, 2008
For a five hour gig, Richie Sexson makes $86,419.75
seattlebruin - June 16, 2008
That's impressive math.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 16, 2008
"to every team the Nationals sweep"
There’s only been one…..
JLC - June 16, 2008
So.... yes
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 16, 2008
Hey guys I just woke up.
Anything interesting happen today?
thewyrm - June 16, 2008
Bavasi can trade veterans?
“Bavasi did a decent job of trading when he was ditching veterans for prospects, but who knows.”
Two words. Carlos. Guillen.
Thoan - June 16, 2008
Three words:
Not his idea.
thewyrm - June 16, 2008
Trading Guillen wasn't his idea
What he got in return, however, was…
PositivePaul - June 16, 2008
Guillen wasn't Bavasi's fault.
That was in place long before he showed up.
BrianL - June 16, 2008
Not entirely true
He was essentially told to move him for whatever, but the trade was his.
Graham MacAree - June 16, 2008
Fair enough.
BrianL - June 16, 2008
But if everyone knew he had to move Guillen, Bavasi wouldn't have had any leverage.
Llewdor - June 16, 2008
Bavasi can leverage teams against each other to get a better return
Gomez - June 16, 2008
As much as I hated it at the time
Vizquel would have been an acceptable return under the circumstances.
JI - June 16, 2008
How the hell is Vizquel still a decent defensive shortstop?
It’s mind boggling.
BrianL - June 16, 2008
Good instincts?
JI - June 16, 2008
Guillen wasn't worth anything when he was traded
except to those who could tell he was developing as a hitter and could predict that he was going to stop getting injured all the time.
johnbai - June 16, 2008
Or those with a reasonable grasp of park effects
Graham MacAree - June 17, 2008
Or on base percentage
or aging curves
or simple baseball economics
JI - June 17, 2008
What a interesting thing to wake up to...
ThundaPC - June 16, 2008
Anyone know where I can watch or listen to the press announcement?
I had to be at work all day.
Scrupio - June 16, 2008
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