Seattle: 25-47
Braves: 36-38
Game 1: Erik Bedard* vs Jorge Campillo
Game 2: Jarrod Washburn* vs Jair Jurrjens
Game 3: Carlos Silva vs Tim Hudson
Through nearly 500 pitches as a starter Jorge Campillo has managed 60 swings and misses for a 12.1% rate. That's higher than Erik Bedard last year or Felix ever. He also has an incredibly low line drive rate all resulting in a 2.48 tRA. We'll get an upfront seat to witness it tonight, but Jorge Campillo has pitched as one of the best pitchers in the majors leagues so far this season.
Getting groundballs and missing a decent amount of bats paired with reasonably enough control has Jurrjens profiled as a solid two or three in a rotation.
Hudson's groundballs are down a bit from last year's incredible rate of over 60%, but he's managed to up his strikeout rate in compensation keeping his overall line the same.
Likely Starters:
C Brian McCann*
1 Mark Teixeira^
2 Kelly Johnson*
3 Chipper Jones^
S Yunel Escobar
L Brandon Jones
C Gregor Blanco*
R Jeff Francoeur
This is a very underrated offense lead by the always underrated Chipper Jones. They possess a 112 OPS+ as a team and as of late they've managed to ditch some of their more under-performing members.
Knick knack patty whack another dog thrown to the bone. Johnny Mac goes away and we get to enjoy a whole new unknown person in nominal charge. What majestic sweeping changes might we see? Who wants to bet on none?
Are we still supposed to root for losses now that the team has fired the two more visible managers? I say yes. For one, we still want a shot at Strasburg or whomever becomes the consensus best talent next year. For two, enough losses might get Lincoln in the hot seat. For three, barring that, we don't want the upper front office to become complacent with Pelekoudas and Riggelman.
Sweetwater IPA
Sweetwater Brewing. Atlanta, GA
A full on IPA with loads of hops. It's a light drink, but Atlanta is a hot town and the rule of thumb is that the hotter the weather outside, the lighter the beer inside (the bottle).
0 recs | 168 comments
Was not impressed with Sweetwater when I visited my son in Atlanta three summers ago.
Steve Nelson - June 20, 2008
I disagree with the hotter it is outside, the lighter the beer.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
The hotter (spicier) the food, the lighter the beer. I'll accept that one.
I always drink Raj with Indian food.
Llewdor - June 20, 2008
Atlanta's food is not spicy.
It’s hot and disgusting there, but the food is not worth a light beer.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Not sure I'm with you there
For spicier food I like something with fuller body to supplement the flavor. Light beer is flavorless with spicy food because you can’t taste it over the food. Just like I don’t want a rich stout, IPA, etc with a salad or cut of fish, since it would overwhelm the taste buds and make the food effectively tasteless.
thejew4u - June 20, 2008
I'm not saying it's how you should drink;
just how beers are typically produced. It’s why summer seasons are almost always light and winter beers are darker.
Matthew - June 20, 2008
This works for me.
I tend to gravitate towards stouts and porters in the winter, while moving towards the lighter beers like pale ale and the like in summer.
Thingray - June 20, 2008
except
Big Time’s summer barley wine. I forget what they called it.
Bearskin Rugburn - June 20, 2008
And that's light=color
Hefeweizen is a pretty thick beer tastewise, but it’s light in color.
eponymous_coward - June 20, 2008
Summer = Weissbier
Llewdor - June 20, 2008
Can't argue that.
Or maybe you can, I’d be curious to see the counterpoint.
thejew4u - June 20, 2008
Yes, more national TV exposure for the team!
Also means I get to watch for once, since I don’t want to pay for MLB.tv to watch the Viva Strasburg M’s
seattlebruin - June 20, 2008
Except you have to watch them do the damn chop.
I loathe, despise and detest the Braves.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
=( I love the Braves...
I grew up rooting for them because the Mariners were never on TV (or playing games for that matter) after September
seattlebruin - June 20, 2008
I love the braves too because they gave me a team to root for during the playoffs when I was growing up.
Plus I love pitching.
Matthew - June 20, 2008
I'm sorry, I can no longer be friends with either of you.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
I hate the Braves..can we be friends?
kentroyals5 - June 20, 2008
Perhaps.
The only other baseball requirements I have involve teams that all Mariners fans should hate.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Lets see
Angels, Yankees, Red Sox, Rangers, A’s, I can’t think of another team for the Mariners to hate?
Fin - June 20, 2008
Padres, Royals
How did you forget our BITTER BITTER RIVALS to the south and our only competition for Grass Creek, WY?
seattlebruin - June 20, 2008
I can't believe I forgot the Rivals®
With our long storied history between us and them.
Also I would love to figure out who the people of Grass Creek, WY actually cheer for. Probably either the Rockies if they are cheering by vicinity, or Yankees or Red Sox.
Fin - June 20, 2008
Growing up in Memphis, you had to pick the Braves or the Cards.
I picked the Cards. Even though my attachment to them died out years ago, my hatred for the Braves remains as strong as ever, albeit for much different reasons.
Aaron Campeau - June 20, 2008
Practically being born in Busch Stadium means that I have residual love for the Cardinals.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
They're a team I root for and all, I just don't follow them closely.
I was actually a closet Astros fan growing up because I thought their uniforms were the shit, but my Aunt would’ve beat me if I confessed to rooting for anyone besides the Cards.
Aaron Campeau - June 20, 2008
o rlly
JI - June 20, 2008
That must be intentional.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
JI is getting sweet on you now
BTW, here is a typical Cardinal fan for you.
Sec 108 - June 20, 2008
He already is attracted to my excellent punctuation.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
I choose to be ignorant of this.
JI - June 20, 2008
Me too.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Considering the spelling I though it was you JI
Sec 108 - June 20, 2008
Note the kid in the yellow shorts
I’ve seen this pic before and assumed that that’s the “morans” kid. Take note of his shirt…
Hit By Pitch Brewing Company - June 20, 2008
If this is "Oh really?"
The story is that my mom had skybox seats while pregnant with me. She had to climb the stairs in Busch Stadium and after the game she had to go to the hospital in labor. I came three weeks early. I really wanted to see that game.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
No one appreciates when I type like a 12 year old girl.
Your plan still failed. >:(
JI - June 20, 2008
I know.
They lost, too. To the Mets.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Born a sucker.
kentroyals5 - June 20, 2008
I would think my presence on this site already made that well known.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Good point...I was wondering how you fit in so well here.
kentroyals5 - June 20, 2008
I went to college in STL
and I hate the Cardinals and Cardinals fans. They’re loyal as hell, but kind of hickish, and a bit ignorant. Scott Spiezio?? Please, if he was clutch on the Mariners, I’d STILL hate him. Pineiro and Franklin? C’mon, losers. LaRussa? God I hate him. Too much Ozzi Smith worship, not enough Stan Musial worship. Thats all for now…
LantermanC - June 20, 2008
Huh? Stan Musial has his own fucking statue.
JI - June 20, 2008
Ah the irony in correcting that spelling.
Yeah, I see myself in the mirror and think, “kinda hickish. bit ignorant.”
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
I used to play as the Braves all the time
on Hardball 3 growing up.
Chipper!
Justice!
Lemke!
Blauser!
Smoltz!
Maddux!
Glavine!
I think I knew more about them than the Mariners for several years.
bluemax - June 20, 2008
What about Pendleton?!!!
seattlebruin - June 20, 2008
Terry Pendleton!
Oh man I forgot about him. And Crime Dog! Steve Avery, Brad Clontz, Mark Wohlers, Kent Mercker!
bluemax - June 20, 2008
Why, why, why are you mean?
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
I've learned that I enjoy being mean
its not really a personal thing against other people. I just enjoy being mean.
bluemax - June 20, 2008
John Rocker must be your favorite Brave ever.
Thingray - June 20, 2008
The only way I could like John Rocker less is if he had played for the Mariners
seattlebruin - June 20, 2008
Ugh no
I was never a Rocker fan.
bluemax - June 20, 2008
That's one dude who has more than a few screws loose.
Thingray - June 20, 2008
Did you see the panel he was on with Baker?
JI - June 20, 2008
Heard about it, but I didn't see it.
Thingray - June 20, 2008
He's not a dumbass like Kruk or Steve Phillips.
JI - June 20, 2008
So he's a smart asshole?
Thingray - June 20, 2008
He seemed to be somewhat intelligent.
Baker thinks he’s a pretty smart dude.
JI - June 20, 2008
Takes all kinds I suppose.
Thingray - June 20, 2008
Being a smart bigot is worse than being a dumb/ignortant bigot.
Aaron Campeau - June 20, 2008
I used to know a ton about them too, since they were always on TBS.
Now that there is baseball and baseball highlight shows on 5 different channels at any given time, I don’t follow them as closely anymore.
Not sure I ever ROOTED for them, I just loved baseball so I would watch any game that was on TV.
Thingray - June 20, 2008
I used to watch them all the time because that was the only way to see the Expos on TV.
Llewdor - June 20, 2008
These are names that cause rage to boil within me.
Every single flippin’ one. Every one.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
How can you hate Greg Maddux?
He was downright amazing. A true master of pitching.
I can understand hatred of Glavine though. I hate him too. And the Atlanta fans. Cannot even sell out playoff games? Unworthy.
Matthew - June 20, 2008
Well the Mariners are in a once-in-a-lifetime race for Strasburg
and they can’t even sell out their stadium. What a shame…
seattlebruin - June 20, 2008
It's easier/cheaper/less psychologically damaging to watch it in a bar
ningwers - June 20, 2008
The alcohol cushions the blow.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
That and the antics of drunk Robert
ningwers - June 20, 2008
All I've got is the alcohol.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Except for that one hilarious evening, me too.
ningwers - June 20, 2008
I actually have a morbid curiousity regarding drunk Robert.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
I sense a money making proposition
Robert - June 20, 2008
I read that as "I sense a monkey mating prostitution..."
seattlebruin - June 20, 2008
Another money making proposition
Robert - June 20, 2008
I saw monkey, too.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
That's racist.
kentroyals5 - June 20, 2008
I'm impressed that was said without gifs
You’ve earned a rec, my friend
ningwers - June 20, 2008
I sense fear. On my part.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
I've only roofied myself
Robert - June 20, 2008
Seriously?
ningwers - June 20, 2008
Did it look like a tic-tac?
Or was it intentional?
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Did you feel used afterward?
Llewdor - June 20, 2008
Damn those delicious 1.9 calorie mints...
ningwers - June 20, 2008
Chugging random beers in public places=Bad idea
Robert - June 20, 2008
That is fantastic.
Was this at Safeco? Please say yes.
ningwers - June 20, 2008
Yes
It was the last thing that I remember for about 5 hours. But hey at least got to miss Willie bat so it wasn’t all that bad.
Robert - June 20, 2008
Maddox is about all I can give on.
I also would love to punch Jones in the face.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Just Chipper?
ningwers - June 20, 2008
Well no.
But I don’t want to scare y’all with my rage.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Plus Maddux looks like a normal dude
pot bellied, glasses, etc etc. I remember being okay with getting glasses in the 9th grade because I knew Greg Maddux wore glasses. I think I tried to get a similar style to him for my first pair.
bluemax - June 20, 2008
I'll never forgive them for abandoning Milwaukee
Steve Nelson - June 20, 2008
Fuck the Braves.
JI - June 20, 2008
I can't tell if JI hates the Braves or has an unhealthy attraction to them.
ningwers - June 20, 2008
If it's the former JI is allowed to be my friend.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN199610140.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL199610160.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL199610170.shtml
JI - June 20, 2008
Is there a reason you're reliving such pain?
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
You borught it up.
JI - June 20, 2008
Oh so you were proving you could be my friend?
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Any chance I get to rant about things that make me angry I take.
JI - June 20, 2008
It's so impressive how you spell correctly when you're angered.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
I hadnt noticed.
JI - June 20, 2008
Fuck Tony LaRussa for not starting Ray Lankford.
JI - June 20, 2008
Tell us how you really feel.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Actually Lankford was injured
it only makes me slightly less angry.
JI - June 20, 2008
Ah, after seeing the new tagline, I understand what "LL - Deciduous" meant
seattlebruin - June 20, 2008
wouldn't we be vidrophobic?
Why are we attracted to the absorption of Jose Vidros?
Corco - June 20, 2008
It will be cool to finally see the M's at Turner field.
PhilKenSebben - June 20, 2008
Where is the best place to find tRA for all MLB pitchers?
coasty141 - June 20, 2008
Well
You should start here
Sec 108 - June 20, 2008
Does Grahm have 2008 stuff somewhere? Or does he just compile it on a case by case basis and at the end of the year for everyone?
coasty141 - June 20, 2008
He's got a classified spreadsheet somewhere that auto calculates it
He’s told us he inputs the data by hand though
seattlebruin - June 20, 2008
muhahahahaha
Matthew - June 20, 2008
Can everyone please join me
for a brief moment of what the fuck with regards to Jorge Campillo?
...
...
Ok thanks that was great. I feel better.
Bearskin Rugburn - June 20, 2008
Can I get an amen?
Thingray - June 20, 2008
Ummm yeah pretty much
To make myself feel slightly better about life, I’m going to live in a bubble protected by the belief that his success is 100% related to the league change and he would be terrible in the AL.
thejew4u - June 20, 2008
yep
He wasn’t that bad for us though. He just couldn’t throw more than like 5 pitches without his arm falling off
Corco - June 20, 2008
Blue Jays hire Cito Gaston??
Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a while
seattlebruin - June 20, 2008
WTF?
I liked Gibbons. I thought he was a good manager. He was creative with his bullpen, he got in afistfight with Ted Lilly. What’s not to like?
Cito’s an idiot. He though Joe Carter was good.
Llewdor - June 20, 2008
And Ernie Whitt was awesome.
He kept pointing out obscure rule violations to the umps.
Llewdor - June 20, 2008
So would you take Gibbons here?
Thingray - June 20, 2008
Yeah, I probably would.
Gibbons generally handled pitchers like he knew what the hell he was doing. He did tend to leave them in quite a while, but when Roy Halladay’s on your staff that’s a winning strategy.
Before Ryan blew out his elbow Gibbons often brought him in in the 8th. Gibbons used his starters as relievers on their throw days when he had cause (Halladay has 2.1 innings of relief this season).
As far as hitters and lineups go, he didn’t have much to work with, but he didn’t ever bat Eckstein 3rd. And when Hillenbrand sucked Gibbons didn’t play him (and then challenged him to a fight).
Llewdor - June 20, 2008
Such good points, I'd make them again.
kentroyals5 - June 20, 2008
Chipper, Chipper, Chipper, will he bat 400?
That’s all we heard when the Braves played the Angels. That and the hilarious accident when Chipper fouled a ball off the batting cage in BP and it ricocheted back and hit him in the eye, throwing himself out of the starting game that night.
44FAN - June 20, 2008
Best night of my life.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
You need better nights
kentroyals5 - June 20, 2008
Obviously.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Although Chipper has been on the DL a lot in his career.
So I suppose you’ve had a lot of ‘good nights’
kentroyals5 - June 20, 2008
The best nights are when his arrogant face gets smashed.
See, anger.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
I have a feeling you'll give us some solid GTE when(if) this team is in contention.
BrianL - June 20, 2008
She has a pretty high ceiling
ningwers - June 20, 2008
High ceiling for what?
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
GTE
ningwers - June 20, 2008
Fine. I admit, I don't know what that means.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Game Thread Emotion
OlSalty - June 20, 2008
Ah. Oh, I'll bring it.
I am full of fantastic insults.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Excellent
ningwers - June 20, 2008
Our top GTE remains EnglishMariner's "Fuck My Pussy"
You’ve got a long way to go, rookie.
BrianL - June 20, 2008
Probably not what you'll hear from me.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
That'd just be awkward
ningwers - June 20, 2008
But it was a classic thread.
Llewdor - June 20, 2008
I'm all for the original thread.
It’d just be awkward if NOLA said it.
ningwers - June 20, 2008
Um, yes.
Awkward.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Yeah that wouldn't work so well in your situation...
OlSalty - June 20, 2008
Don't worry, I have plenty of clever, witty remarks just waiting.
Now if I could only have a chance to use them.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
It might count as Corcobaiting if you said it.
BrianL - June 20, 2008
Don't really want to go there.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Smart decision.
BrianL - June 20, 2008
HAHAHA
ningwers - June 20, 2008
You're mean too.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
I wasn't laughing at you
I was laughing because I assumed that the confusion was my fault
ningwers - June 20, 2008
Ok. Retracted.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
It's usually a safe assumption
Plus I just laugh a lot. I think it comes from not taking myself very seriously.
ningwers - June 20, 2008
You'll see.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Chipper Jones
Great hitting 3B, or greatest hitting 3B?
JI - June 20, 2008
Career line is better than Mike Schmidt's, though his OPS+ is 145 compared to Schmidt's 147
So by raw stats, yeah, Chipper is better, but based on the league averages of the day, Schmidt was just a litttttle bit better than his competition compared to Chipper.
Regardless, I don’t care if you people hate Chipper Jones. That guy’s awesome. Motherfucker can hit.
BrettJMiller - June 20, 2008
I have all the respect in the world for Chipper Jones.
I think he’s a total d-bag, but he’s a helluva’ hitter and the most underrated player of his generation.
Aaron Campeau - June 20, 2008
...besides Jim Edmonds.
JI - June 20, 2008
Jim Edmonds was rad, but I'm not sure he was underrated.
Aaron Campeau - June 20, 2008
*as underrated.
Aaron Campeau - June 20, 2008
Jim Edmonds was the best player on the Cardinals from 2000-04,
and McGwire and Pujols got all the attention.
He was the second best player in the NL in 2002 and 2004 (only behind Bonds) and didn’t receive serious MVP consideration. This guy is one of the greatest centerfielders to play the game and he won’t even end up in the HOF.
JI - June 20, 2008
You may very well be correct.
I partially retract my previous statement.
Aaron Campeau - June 20, 2008
Beltre was better in '04?
redwolf75 - June 20, 2008
Why does he secrete d-baggery?
I’ve never understood this, but it’s something you just know by looking at him.
Frosty Raptor - June 20, 2008
He reminds me of my family that decided to stay in the south.
Those people suck, so I assume he does, too.
Aaron Campeau - June 20, 2008
wait... why's Chipper a d-bag?
Am I missing something? Seems like a nice enough guy to me. Kind of ugly though… that’s probably NOLA’s closet reason for disliking him. Ashamed of liking an ugly dude.
LantermanC - June 20, 2008
He's not ugly...
vkut79 - June 20, 2008
Um no. Otis Nixon. That's an ugly dude.
But I echo acblue—he looks like a dumbass good ol’ boy. Those are the faces I long to punch.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 20, 2008
Does he, or does he not
perpetually have a cold sore? Always looks like he does to me.
Hit By Pitch Brewing Company - June 20, 2008
Yeah, Mike Schmidt was awesome
It’d be interesting to see who was better at reaching base compared to their peers.
JI - June 20, 2008
Schmidt played better D.
redwolf75 - June 20, 2008
Jones is pretty mediocre defensively.
JI - June 20, 2008
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