This might sound crazy, especially given Derek's recent post at USS Mariner, but here goes anyways. Willie Bloomquist has been the best shortstop on the team so far in 2008.
OFFENSE: Yes, Willie has no power; none whatsoever. He has 20 hits on the year, all singles and a meager .626 OPS. Turns out that for now it doesn't really matter. Why? Because he has 13 walks in just 90 PA which is a higher pace than any Mariner hitter probably since Edgar in 2003. You can compare Yuni's slugging percentage (.401) to Willie's (.260) all you want, and it's a completely valid criticism, but I'm going to come back at you with .367 to .287. That's Willie's OBP compared to Yuni's. Walks matter! Yuni has four of them in 277 PA which is ONE TENTH the rate that Willie has so far in 2008.
Pick your stat. EQA? Willie's at .254 to Yuniesky Betancourt's .239. Runs Created? A lineup of Bloomquist's scores 4.0 runs a game while a lineup of Betancourt's scores just 3.4. Incidentally, the Mariner lineup in realtiy has scored just 4.01 runs per game. Getting on base in the single most important thing a hitter can do and Willie's nearly 30% better at it than Yuni. Is that sustainable? Probably not, though Willie's contact rate is up this year, but I find it interesting nonetheless.
DEFENSE: We've been harping on it for awhile now, but Yuni's defense has regressed worse than Miguel Batista's pitching. He stands near or at the bottom of shortstops at both making plays in zone and making plays out of zone. He's always had trouble with the routine but when he first came up in 2005 and in 2006 he would make up for that with terrific range, getting to and at least stopping balls that Derek Jeter doesn't even reach in his most frenzied ESPN-induced self-glory dreams. Those days are gone. Long gone.
Now, is Willie an upgrade? We cannot really know. Ironically since the team loves moving Willie around so much on the field, we have nothing even approaching an adequate sample size on his defense anywhere. And we cannot even take the fact that the team plays him at multiple positions to speculate that his defense is passable because this team intentionally started an outfield consisting of Ibanez-Ichiro-Morse earlier this year. However, it's a fair bet to say that Willie is at least not a butcher at short. You can usually visually spot those and since right now Yuni actually is a butcher and Willie's probably not...
OVERALL: It's also worth something that Willie's baserunning is better than Yuni's. Not worth much, but it's something. The rumblings have been that the team moved Ichiro to right field in order to open up a spot in center for Willie and Reed to play (why couldn't they just play in right?) primarily in order to showcase Willie for a trade. I hope it's true because getting anything in return for Willie would be high hilarity, but if you are trying to showcase him, would showcasing him at shortstop a few games a week help? Or would that damage Yuni's potential trade value more than it helps Willie's?
What could Yuni do to rectify his lowly performance thus far in 2008? In a word, bootcamp. When he does play I want him on the Loafie hitting plan where he's not allowed to swing until there's at least one strike on him. If he happens to not be playing that day, I'm having him skip all drills and just run foul poles over and over and over and over. And then over some more. He needs to do whatever possible to regain at least 2006-era range. We can use the second half of the season to see if he's going to be useful going forward. If so, great. If not, hope our new savvy GM come winter can lure some less wonderful GM into buying into the high average, defensive rep and team-friendly contract and make away with some players at other holes we need to fill and go free agent shortstop shopping.
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It would be hard to try to trade Yuni
after being benched for WFB.
Edgar for Pres - June 26, 2008
He wouldn't be benched at the end of the season.
Other GMs would understand the desire to showcase Willie for a possible trade in July.
Matthew - June 26, 2008
Poor Yuni
I hated running foul poles back in my baseball days.
Fin - June 26, 2008
Hell hath frozen over.
The seas are boiling, the headless horsemen of the Apocalypse are circling around my office.
Oh Yuni, how the mighty have fallen.
BrianL - June 26, 2008
My God. It's scary to read this and know that it's true.
Thingray - June 26, 2008
I feel so cold...
BrianL - June 26, 2008
WFB: Matthew endoresed.
This season sucks.
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
Alright you win
There is no floor
Robert - June 26, 2008
Yuni has been bad.
Therefore, Matthew argues that WFB should be starting over Yuni.
Ergo, there is no floor.
Q.E.D.
BrianL - June 26, 2008
I hated 9th grade math so hard
Robert - June 26, 2008
Remember 2 offseasons ago when it was reported Yuni was untouchable and could nab almost anyone in a trade?
Ah…good times….
SethGrandpa - June 26, 2008
No
Bloomquist’s 2008 Marcel: .260/.320/.354
Betancourt’s 2008 Marcel: .288/.318/.418
The OBP difference is a small sample size fluke. There’s no reason – none – to believe that Bloomquist is suddenly a true talent 14.4% BB% guy.
Starting Bloomquist at shortstop because he’s got a higher OBP is based on the same logic as sending Clement back down because he struck out a lot in 50 at-bats. It’s dumb.
davidcameron - June 26, 2008
So what your saying is it's going to happen?
SethGrandpa - June 26, 2008
*you're
SethGrandpa - June 26, 2008
No, you had it right the first time
seattlebruin - June 26, 2008
No...the sentence should read "So what you are saying is it's going to happen?"
SethGrandpa - June 26, 2008
Nvm
seattlebruin - June 26, 2008
BLOG FIGHT!!!!
Thingray - June 26, 2008
CRIPPLE FIGHT
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
I honestly don't know.
If doing something like this makes Yuni hit the treadmill and drop the Vidro diet, I think I’d be for it.
BrianL - June 26, 2008
True there is a reason Willie gets an amazing amount of fastballs.
They want him to swing and miss…walks are pretty high for his lack of xbh’ing ability.
As the eight ball says: All signs point to fluke.
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
Mine says "all signs point to suck".
Thingray - June 26, 2008
Stupid stupid me... why did I by the G-rated magic eight ball?
seattlebruin - June 26, 2008
He's not missing though,
at least this year. He’s making contact 90% of the time he swings. That’s Ichiro territory.
And again, because clearly I’m not emphasizing this strongly enough.
I am not claiming Bloomquist is now a true talent .360 OBP guy or a 90% contact rate guy. I am aware of the small sample size. I find it interesting that he’s been so much more valuable than Yuni thus far in 2008 and think its worth discussing whether it might be a real step forward for him.
I am not making any definitive statements about future performance.
Matthew - June 26, 2008
It
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
What the hell was that...It like auto-posted!
Anywho…I was going to say that it’s his contract year…he’s going big!!
And with all the fastballs he gets he will definitely find some contact. But with all those fastballs hit something harder damnit!
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
Well, that was a weird formatting issue.
I did not mean for all that to be in bold. Screw you SBN 2.0 for eating my asterisks… etc etc
Matthew - June 26, 2008
If only you had the powers to fix this error...
JI - June 26, 2008
If you had the powers you would be forced to edit every comment you make.
Because if you don’t utilize the powers you have to perfect your posts, then what is the point in having the power?
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
So what? So he ends up sucking and helps us lose games?
What’s the downside here?
And for what it’s worth, up to the day Marcel projections for 2008 are actually
WFB – .256/.335/.311
Yuni – .277/.295/.400
Matthew - June 26, 2008
Are you sure?
Coming into this season, Bloomquist had 1090 PAs and Marcel had him at a .318 OBP. There’s no way 77 PA with a .367 OBP should raise his true talent level OBP up 17 points. No way.
davidcameron - June 26, 2008
Also, the downside
You nuke Yuni’s value in the process. We might know that his OBP is a problem and his defense doesn’t match his reputation, but do you think the Twins know that?
There are a good amount of teams out there that are going to read the scouting repots on Yuni’s defense (still positive), see the .290 batting average and the extra base hits, then see the 3 year, $9 million contract and decide that he’s an attractive player. The M’s shouldn’t do anything to lower Betancourt’s value.
davidcameron - June 26, 2008
Would you pull a trigger on a trade then before you put WFB in?
Or do you sit on Yuni (assuming WFB takes some/alot of his playing time away)?
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
Starting Willie at SS ~3 times a week
for 5 weeks is going to nuke Yuni’s trade value. Really?
And there’s no possible upside that the extra time spent running et al doesn’t make Yuni an improved player post ASB, raising his trade value?
Matthew - June 26, 2008
Why can't he run before games..or after...why is him running and playing mutually exclusive?
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
I don't know.
But it seems to be because there’s no way you get that slow and fat unless you’re not running.
Matthew - June 26, 2008
So I think we should keep playing him and running him in the morning like a race horse
Taking him out of the lineup to get in shape may send a bad message to other teams about his willingness to work hard.
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
Yes
If you’re the Twins, and you see that the worst team in baseball now thinks that Betancourt isn’t good enough to be a full time starter for them, you’re going to seriously re-evaluate your take on his abilities. It’s like telling every other team in baseball “he’s not as good as you think!”.
And, extra time spent running? Betancourt’s going to do sprints during the game? I don’t think so.
davidcameron - June 26, 2008
It's like super reverse genius trickery
Yeah, the other teams will think, “Ha! Those crazy Mariners want to get Bloomquist in the lineup so badly that they’re benching superstar Yuni! Let’s hurry up and fleece them now before some other club does!”
The genius is so subtle that to the casual eye it’s completely invisible.
busplunger - June 26, 2008
It's what Sal's marcel tool says
Granted, it only looks back to 2004.
Matthew - June 26, 2008
Oh you said true talent.
I didn’t grab that, I took his up to minute projection for 2008 (counting what’s already transpired).
Matthew - June 26, 2008
While I agree with this
weighted wOBA (.1/.3/.5/.1, 2005-2008):
Willie: .285
Yuni: .306
That equates to a difference of ten offensive runs over a 600 PA season. Is Willie ten runs better than Yuni in the field?
Jeff Sullivan - June 26, 2008
Yeah, I don't agree with any of this.
We don’t gain anything by benching Betancourt, It’d be resigning ourselves to sell low on him. There’s no way Boom-Boom can keep this up, David Eckstein sees more pitches than the average bear, and his walk rate isn’t particularly impressive—and he’s Mark McGwire compared to Ballgame. I’d be shocked Willie’s walk rate is anything more than a SSS fluke.
JI - June 26, 2008
Benching Betancourt is not actually what I had in mind and upon re-reading this I see where that comes across.
And taking that and Dave’s valid criticism to heart, I’ve tried to edit it to better reflect what I was trying to get across originally.
Matthew - June 26, 2008
I wouldn't be upset with Willie getting more starts
as long as it’s not in CF.
But 1b (dear God I can’t believe I just advocated that), SS, LF go to town.
JI - June 26, 2008
Willie does actually represent an improvement at 1B, doesn't he?
I think I’m going to be sick.
BrianL - June 26, 2008
I just puked in my mouth a little.
Thingray - June 26, 2008
I wouldn't think so...some value comes from the power threat from the 1B position (well that is gone too with Richie)
Son of a bitch…WFB for 1st base!!
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
Improvement at DH too?
Matthew - June 26, 2008
Part of me just died an awful, awful death.
BrianL - June 26, 2008
Vidro has more power...saddddddddd
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
Implied by advocation of starting at 1B.
JI - June 26, 2008
Raul/Willie platoon?
Matthew - June 26, 2008
Yeah
or Raul /Willie/ Richie carousel.
JI - June 26, 2008
It would be a carousel of hilarity.
I’m down.
BrianL - June 26, 2008
Might as well throw Vidro and Johjima in there as well.
More the merrier.
Matthew - June 26, 2008
Actually, Fuck Richie
I don’t care how bad LeHair is, it’s pointless to keep Sexson on the team at this juncture. maybe we’ll get luck and he’ll turn into Todd Benzinger or Greg Dobbs.
JI - June 26, 2008
Todd Benzinger?
Jeff Sullivan - June 26, 2008
He could play more than one position.
JI - June 26, 2008
I've been thinking about this for a while but never had the balls to say anything
Jeff Sullivan - June 26, 2008
You are going to get the woman vote
Jeff: Vote for me, cause like you I have no balls!
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
Please don't ban me....:(
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
Penalty box?
BrianL - June 26, 2008
Too obvious, will wait
Jeff Sullivan - June 26, 2008
Wait for what? I'm not excited...if I had mod-powers I could delete my post
Just saying..
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
It's much better to just say half-assed things and let Dave tell you when you're wrong
and then you can correct it and seem smarter.
Matthew - June 26, 2008
You still raise an interesting point
a legitimate argument can be made that Willie Ballgame is Yuni’s equal, if not actually better.
Jeff Sullivan - June 26, 2008
So everyone's off the Teixeira bandwagon then?
Because, don’t look now, but his 2008 looks an awful lot like his 2006.
davidcameron - June 26, 2008
I still want him,
but not at the price he’s going to command.
Matthew - June 26, 2008
And to be fair,
a lot of our hope for him was that he seemed like one of the least stupid signings Bavasi would consider. Now that Bavasi’s gone, that constraint is lifted.
Matthew - June 26, 2008
at least temporarily
JI - June 26, 2008
Give me six months of hope.
I’m going to need it if they hire another tard because you know whoever the next hire is, he/she’ll get 3-5 years at least before they axe him/her
Matthew - June 26, 2008
Not all GMs are stupid in the same way.
Take comfort.
JI - June 26, 2008
I'm so non-conformist that never was on the Teixeria bandwagon.
JI - June 26, 2008
YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!
johnbai - June 26, 2008
I only forgot one word.
JI - June 26, 2008
Based on what he did to us
I’m expecting him to get a 10/300 contact.
JI - June 26, 2008
This is why you are a poor leader.
JI - June 26, 2008
PENALTY BOX!
kentroyals5 - June 26, 2008
Jeff is Ichiro?
joof - June 26, 2008
Jeff hurts this blog by not using the ban hammer more often
johnbai - June 26, 2008
He's banned LFoJL 4 times in the past 48 hours.
Matthew - June 26, 2008
SBN needs a penalty box feature.
JI - June 26, 2008
Fuck the penalty box
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 27, 2008
I like this post
It’s out of the box. I’m tired of Yuni and his lack of walks, and his boneheaded defensive plays. I can’t tell that he got fatter, but I guess if everyone says it’s true, he must have gotten fatter.
Too bad real life can’t be like a video game where you can just trade Yuni and Washburn for Stephen Drew… (also on a similar note, I love playing against Vidro, and having the announcer call him a good hitter).
LantermanC - June 26, 2008
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