The 1995 Mariners overcame incredible odds to win the division and advance to the American League Championship. This team is not that team. Thankfully we only have to put up with another 104 of these games before we can officially call it an offseason. Strasburg, ho!
Biggest Contribution: Jose Lopez, +11.3%
Biggest Suckfest: Jarrod Washburn, -23.8%
Most Important AB: Lopez double, +10.8%
Most Important Pitch: Mathis homer, -18.0%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -12.4%
Total Contribution by Hitters: -37.6%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
(What is this chart?)
Posting should be back to normal again tomorrow. Great.
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I just want to say thats a quality power point graphic, it really makes the 21-37 seem exciting.
also go pens.
GarlicFryCubFan - June 3, 2008
Jarrod Washburn soaked in befuddlement
As seen in the Blog of Baker…
“It’s baffling,’’ Mariners starter Jarrod Washburn said after going 5 1/3 innings and taking the loss. “It’s hard to believe that our season has gone as badly as it has.’‘
Another two outs and one less run surrendered and he would have a “quality start” on his hands! Foiled again by the Joh.
Frosty Raptor - June 3, 2008
Actually no
I heard his postgame comments and he said some other interesting stuff. A “journalist” asked him if it was unrealistic to expect a pitcher to be perfect, and he said something like “when you’re a guy like Felix, you can afford to not be perfect because your stuff can get you by, but when you’re a pitcher like me, you can’t afford to make any mistakes.” He was muttering something about his fastball not being as fast as it used to be and that he never had a good curve ball.
Sounds like he’s starting to realize that he sucks.
The Typical Idiot Fan - June 3, 2008
The "baffled" quote references the team, not his performance
Frosty Raptor - June 3, 2008
Any chance we can swing a deal for Cha Seung Baek?
Shouldn’t take more than a shitty AA pitcher to land him.
Teej - June 3, 2008
Time to play "Who's that pitcher?"
ThundaPC - June 3, 2008
Btw
The top quote is Ervin Santana. The bottom is by Jarrod Washburn.
Yea.
ThundaPC - June 3, 2008
Well I'm satisfactorily emabarrassed
Jeff Sullivan - June 3, 2008
Unlike the pedophile
eponymous_coward - June 3, 2008
Mariners are charting the same course with Sexson as they did with Boone
The performance and circumstances of both players are similar. With Boone, the Mariners pulled him from the lineup on June 18 for four games and worked with him on his hitting. They gave him two weeks after that to turn his season around, and then DFA’d him.
So at this point, I figure Sexson’s got about two weeks left with the club.
Steve Nelson - June 3, 2008
Yeah but the 05 Ms had Lopez waiting for that spot
What is Bavasi going to do after cutting Sexson? Call up Lahair? Haha….
Wait. No Bill! Bill, no! That was a joke! Bill!
Goddammit.
Matthew - June 3, 2008
Useless 1B is useless
I don’t see the harm of seeing a Loyal Organizational Soldier getting some games in MLB once it’s been proven your season is officially a [COATHANGER], so long as it’s not going to stop you from upgrading 1B during the offseason.
eponymous_coward - June 3, 2008
They have a plan for 1B next year ...
All teams have roster plans that extend over the next several seasons. Those plans are provisional, but they’re in place. So the Mariners will likely go to whatever that plan is.
That’s exactly the same situation with Boone. The Mariners hadn’t planned for Lopez to be the 2b that season, but when they cut Boone loose, they went to the future plan. So if the Mariners dump Sexson, we’re likely to see what the future plan is, or the current lack of a plan. If the team is thinking about Raul at 1B in the future, they would likely make the move now. If they bring up Lahair then we know they probably don’t have an internal plan for filling 1B next season.
Steve Nelson - June 3, 2008
Sexson's a FA, and there isn't really anyone in the system behind him.
This is why Miguel Cairo is playing 1B, remember?
Basically, you’re giving the M’s WAAAAAAAY too much credit for thinking in advance here. My guess is the current offseason plan is “sign another aging and lumbering brute for $Texas to be the next Mo Vaughn or Richie Sexson”. The M’s haven’t developed a player worth a crap at 1B since Tino Martinez nearly 20 years ago.
eponymous_coward - June 3, 2008
I'm pretty sure the Mariners don't actually try to fail.
Matthew - June 3, 2008
But they're so talented at it!
Imagine how good they would be if they actually tried!
seattlebruin - June 3, 2008
Well, I think Bavasi thought Mo and Richie were flukes.
Hey, just because this didn’t work the last two times we tried it…
eponymous_coward - June 3, 2008
Steve phillips took Mo off his hands and gave him value in return
...you can always do worse.
JI - June 3, 2008
At the gathering last year he thought Zito's bad season was a fluke
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Jeff Sullivan - June 3, 2008
Technically he was right
just not in the direction he probably meant.
Matthew - June 3, 2008
Weren't his core numbers ~the same as his last year in Oakland?
JI - June 3, 2008
Quite similar
Jeff Sullivan - June 3, 2008
I'm still at a loss as the why anyone thought that'd be a good idea.
I wasn’t as into in depth analysis as I am now, and I still thought he was a collaspe candidate because of all the walks.
JI - June 3, 2008
But...the ERA...shiny...just like Washburn's...
eponymous_coward - June 3, 2008
You know how boring this game was?
It actually prompted me to watch more hockey than I ever had in my life
Sportszilla - June 3, 2008
I'm not seeing how that's a bad thing...
ningwers - June 3, 2008
That game was spectacular
Jeff Sullivan - June 3, 2008
Yes, yes it was
I think I could be a hockey fan, except I don’t care about any particular team
Sportszilla - June 3, 2008
I don't care about Detroit or Pittsburgh and I was still flipping out
Jeff Sullivan - June 3, 2008
Yeah I hate Pitt and Detroit is meh
But I was glued to the TV.
dbroncos31 - June 3, 2008
but I was still goin nuts
Sportszilla, root for the Blackhawks. They are young and exciting.
dbroncos31 - June 3, 2008
The 2008 season, in one picture.
104 more to go…
eponymous_coward - June 3, 2008
I was thinking
We have gotten horrible production from DH this year. We have a LF who sucks at defense. We have two young OF who probably aren’t horrible. Corey Patterson just got sent to the minors. Is it really that hard to shift Ibanez to DH? I’m so confused.
With regards to 1B, they should have seen this coming…
Edgar for Pres - June 3, 2008
Reed and Wlad lack Turbo's veteran grittiness.
eponymous_coward - June 3, 2008
The Strasburg Seven
June 2nd
May 25th
- We fell a bit to 2nd place but we’re still in good shape.
- Colorado definately wants in on Strasburg. They dropped 8 straight games since the last time I posted this.
- San Francisco lost an arseload of ground by not sucking enough. They’ll need to work on that.
ThundaPC - June 3, 2008
I 100% believe Rowland and Molina are this good.
JI - June 3, 2008
Can we still mock the Giants?
The Platonic Idea of the Giants still sucks big time, even if its imperfect impression scored 10 runs last night.
Paytheline - June 3, 2008
Somehow they are 6th/13th/11th in slash stats, but are 14th in runs scored.
They were dead to me once they sent Bocock down.
JI - June 3, 2008
This is in protest of Raul actually making a difficult play:
JI - June 3, 2008
RRS
I am absolutely amazed that people aren’t swinging from the rafters demanding to make RRS replace Wash in the rotation. RRS clearly has enough stuff to get by in the rotation and brief 100%-effort appearances for Wash might make him mildly effective.
batura - June 3, 2008
I think we're beyond the point of really caring when the Mariners do something stupid
It’s generally understood that RRS would be the better pitcher. It’s also generally understood that it isn’t going to happen. So it’s generally understood that we might as well get used to it without getting too emotional.
Jeff Sullivan - June 3, 2008
Speaking of your new bf, Jeff
do you think he would be successful as a starter? Seems like he was okay in the minors as a starter, and I think he’s got the stuff to cut it in the bigs, too. Eh, I wouldn’t mind if he closed, either
seattlebruin - June 3, 2008
I think he could cut it as a #4 but I doubt he'd be anything special
Jeff Sullivan - June 3, 2008
The rotation should probably be:
Bedard
Felix
Silva
RRS
Morrow/Dickey split until Morrow builds up endurance.
Matthew - June 3, 2008
I know it's been said before
but it can’t be said enough:
Batista/Washburn/Silva cost this team ~$100m.
Morrow/Dickey/RRS cost ~$1m and would be no worse.
JI - June 3, 2008
Not that it's particulary important
but ~$113M
Silva 4/48
Washburn 4/40
Batista 3/25
Brandon Morrow – 2.5M signing bonus
seattlebruin - June 3, 2008
Worse than orginally thought!
(Signing bonuses don’t count, IIRC)
JI - June 3, 2008
Well, if you want to talk about total investment into a player, I would count the bonus for a player like Morrow
so he costs us (2.5M + $500k*2 years) = 3.5M/2 yr, ~4M/3 yr, etc.
seattlebruin - June 3, 2008
Actual cost of Brandon Morrow:
Tim Lincecum.
>:(
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Matthew - June 3, 2008
I feel stupid for not blasting them for this at the time
Jeff Sullivan - June 3, 2008
Trust me
it doesn’t make you feel any better.
marc w - June 3, 2008
Eh... with Lincecum's problems getting through lineups twice
and Morrow’s recent emergence as being completely unhittable over one inning outings, I don’t feel so bad.
OTOH, Lincecum is a genuine joy to watch pitch, and at this point is certainly ahead of Morrow of the development curve. I just think that Morrow still has a ton of potential if the Mariners ever let him start some fucking games.
seattlebruin - June 3, 2008
buh?
He’s worse 2nd time through yes, but a lot of that is a bad BABIP.
Matthew - June 3, 2008
Meh, I'm not saying I don't like Lincecum or anything
more that the way Morrow has pitched recently, I regret this less and less.
seattlebruin - June 3, 2008
I regret it 0.02% less
until I see Morrow start a game the regret is going to remain murderingly high.
Matthew - June 3, 2008
Why are you combining total contracts for the former
and just 08 salary for the latter?
Matthew - June 3, 2008
Because the latter don't require long term deals.
...or maybe because it was stupid thing to do.
JI - June 3, 2008
With Morrow/Dickey
They could even try a tag team arrangement similar to what Wisconsin did with Aumont and Donnie Hume. Assure Morrow of 3-4 innings and expect Dickey to get the first 4-5 innings out of the way.
Gomez - June 3, 2008
Fucking Jose Lopez
Needs to learn when I’m watching the game and when I’m not :(
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 3, 2008
It's not his fault you'd rather watch Maid in Manhattan.
JI - June 3, 2008
*sleep
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 3, 2008
You dream about Maid in Manhattan?
JI - June 3, 2008
You slept with a maid in Manhattan?
eponymous_coward - June 3, 2008
Not gay enough
Jeff Sullivan - June 3, 2008
Saw Made of Honor in theaters?
Fin - June 3, 2008
I think they have gay maids now.
JI - June 3, 2008
Well, it IS NYC.
eponymous_coward - June 3, 2008
Fudge you
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - June 3, 2008
It's a good thing.
When he was called out, he knew he couldn’t count on you coming to the rescue and proimptly went yard
dbroncos31 - June 3, 2008
so what stupid move will our FO make this off season
InSpokane - June 3, 2008
All of them
Nick S - June 3, 2008
Yeah, see, that's the downside.
We go “great, let’s get to the offseason” and then it’s “OMFG BAVASI’S AN IDIOT”.
eponymous_coward - June 3, 2008
21-37
In a row?
prays someone gets that joke
Sylar - June 3, 2008
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