Much like Brandon Morrow, I think I'll take today off.
Biggest Contribution: RA Dickey, +33.6%
Biggest Suckfest: Brandon Morrow, -47.0%
Most Important AB: Lopez DP, -14.2%
Most Important Pitch: Suzuki homer, -48.8%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -4.7%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -48.8%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +3.5%
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1 recs | 114 comments
This is more in depth than any recap I could ever write
here, have a rec
JI - July 10, 2008
Tough to recap a game that took place while you were at work.
Jeff Sullivan - July 10, 2008
Agreed.
JI - July 10, 2008
Actually, I'll amend that
I can usually tune in from work. Tough to recap a game when the bulk of it took place while you were out at lunch.
Jeff Sullivan - July 10, 2008
I wouldn't listen to this at lunch.
JI - July 10, 2008
Dear God I've developed a completely irrational mancrush on Dickey.
Please give him a new contract.
BrianL - July 10, 2008
He's quickly becoming one of my favorite players.
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
It's almost like he could conceivably be a decent #5 for nothing
Jeff Sullivan - July 10, 2008
If you're the GM, what do you offer?
BrianL - July 10, 2008
contract-extension wise.
BrianL - July 10, 2008
5/70
It’s what we feel he’s worth.
JI - July 10, 2008
He has the Body Language of someone who's worth 5/70
Unlike Bedard, who has the body language of some one who has lady parts
joof - July 10, 2008
Unless I'm mistaken, Dickey's still going to be under team control
so I give him something in the high six figures and smile when his eyes light up.
Jeff Sullivan - July 10, 2008
I wasn't really sure what his contract situation was.
The whole Rule V thing, followed by the trade for his rights confused the living daylights out of me.
BrianL - July 10, 2008
How many Rule V draftee's turn out successful (minus Hamilton and Santana)?
Fin - July 10, 2008
JI - July 10, 2008
Uggla?
joof - July 10, 2008
Victorino's been all right
Jeff Sullivan - July 10, 2008
When I think Rule V, I think of Luis Ugueto.
I just don’t imagine them contributing as much as Dickey has this season. Dickey was a Mat Olkin suggested move, wasn’t he?
BrianL - July 10, 2008
Thats what USSMariner said back when Dickey was selected in the Rule V
joof - July 10, 2008
JI - July 10, 2008
Ok, I think I get it
There is just of a good chance of a rule V draftee making it big as a regular draftee. But they get to stay on the big league roster, or go back on their old team, right? The whole rule V thing is confusing.
Fin - July 10, 2008
I think we're confusing the Rule V draft with the Rule 5 draft.
JI - July 10, 2008
I think I am at least.
Because the roman numeral for 5 is V, so I assumed they were the same.
Fin - July 10, 2008
It was a joke.
JI - July 10, 2008
Ok
Its hard to tell a joke apart through text.
Fin - July 10, 2008
It's a situation of
Well, he’s not one of your 40 best, but we think he’s one of our best 25.
JI - July 10, 2008
Or at least that's the intent
the idea is to keep certain teams from hoarding talent. Sometimes a team will draft a worthless player and then play 24 deep until they can make up a fake injury accompanied by a subsequent lengthy rehab assignment.
JI - July 10, 2008
Didn't the Mariners do that with Sean White last year?
Fin - July 10, 2008
One of the worst cases of sucktitis the team has ever seen.
BrianL - July 10, 2008
...and Ugueto
except Ugueto was fucking worthless
JI - July 10, 2008
Didn't the fact he was on the 25-man drive Lou nuts?
BrianL - July 10, 2008
Probably.
Considering Gipson was the other reserve… that’s a pretty punchless bench. Ruben Sierra and Desi Relaford be damned.
JI - July 10, 2008
Like Roberto Petagine bad?
Fin - July 10, 2008
Petagine was decent. >:(
Herb Washington would have been more useful.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/u/uguetlu01.shtml
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=14831
JI - July 10, 2008
Man, how sad would it be to know you never had a hit in your two year major league career?
Both these guys make WFB look like an all-star.
Fin - July 10, 2008
Yeah, They have to be on the 25 man roster the whole year or be offered back to the original team for half of what the team paid.
joof - July 10, 2008
whoops-a-doodle
JI - July 10, 2008
"If they had killed Gillian they would have gotten off the island."
I think this applies to 3/5 of our rotation.
JI - July 10, 2008
I'd offer him the $810,000 he didn't get when the Rangers discovered that missing ligament.
Although I’d seriously consider just giving him an even 1 million (provided he doesn’t completely fall apart).
BrianL - July 10, 2008
the fuck?
JI - July 10, 2008
Is there any easy way to find out the results of every at bat a pitcher pitched?
I want to see what percent of the time Morrow has pitched either a strikeout, walk, or homerun, and how that compares with other batters.. It seems that whenever he pitches, he gets one of the three true outcomes while he pitches, and rarely do batters put it in play when the ball isn’t heading over the fence.
joof - July 10, 2008
He is a true fielding independent pitcher.
Fin - July 10, 2008
Coming into today, 45.4% of Morrow's PAs ended in a K, BB or HR.
Matthew - July 10, 2008
That's insane.
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
Because I'm bored...
Putz, 2006-39.9%
Putz, 2007-38.8%
And, because I’m really, really bored….
Nolan Ryan, 1977-43.8%
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
....Holy crap.
BrianL - July 10, 2008
Nolan Ryan's pitching lines are ridiculous.
I knew this intuitively, but looking at them all at once…dear God.
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
He was a pretty good pitcher once he turned 40.
JI - July 10, 2008
And a pretty good brawler too
Ask Robin Ventura
Gomez - July 10, 2008
That video always makes me smile.
BrianL - July 10, 2008
His 1973 was batshit.
383 K, 162 BB, 2,48 FIP, 326 IP, 26 CG.
I know it was a different game, but that’s completely unfathomable to me.
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
Sweet holy Jesus mother of pearl.
BrianL - July 10, 2008
Yeah, that's obscene.
Teej - July 10, 2008
Even the 383 K seems unreachable in today's game
But god damn. At least knowing he played up until he was 45 gives me hope that Sean Green’s arm doesn’t fall off.
Fin - July 10, 2008
Randy almost got there a few years ago.
JI - July 10, 2008
That was an insane season.
BrianL - July 10, 2008
2001
372 K, 249 IP
more impressive
JI - July 10, 2008
Randy Johnson = Today's Nolan Ryan?
Maybe without all the no hitters?
Fin - July 10, 2008
RJ is better than Nolan, relative to the rest of the league.
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
You mean since he was in his prime during the supposed "steroid era"?
Fin - July 10, 2008
I prefer "era of increased offense."
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
Or juiced ball era?
Or smaller park era?
Nolan Ryan isn’t anywhere close to being as good as Randy Johnson.
JI - July 10, 2008
Yeah, I'd say Randy's one of the best five or 10 to ever do it.
I don’t put Nolan Ryan in that group.
Teej - July 11, 2008
so the Mariners were stupid for not extending his contract?
Fin - July 11, 2008
If it weren't for longevity
Nolan Ryan wouldn’t be a HOFer. He was a very good pitcher for a very long time, but he never really was as good as people remember.
JI - July 11, 2008
The longevity is noteworthy, though.
Aaron Campeau - July 11, 2008
And definitely worth something.
I’m cool with him being in the HOF, but yeah, he’s no Randy.
Teej - July 11, 2008
Randy Johnson is in a whole different building than Ryan.
JI - July 10, 2008
Nolan Ryan really wasn't all that great of a pitcher.
Matthew - July 11, 2008
Neither was Cy Young or Walter Johnson
Gomez - July 11, 2008
wha?
Walter Johnson was deeply, deeply awesome. easily one of the best ever.
Why do you think he wasn’t all that great?
marc w - July 11, 2008
I think you missed the sarcasm.
JI - July 11, 2008
Meta sarcasm is meta
Gomez - July 11, 2008
Despite popular sentiment
I like this meme when used in moderation
JI - July 11, 2008
Isn't Ryan's durability part of his value?
It’s like what Dave Cameron was talking about with the Harden -> Cubs trade where Gallagher’s durability is nearly as valuable as a great, but injured pitcher, like Harden.
I’m not trying to argue Ryan is an all-time top 5 pitcher or even close to RJ, but the high number of better-than-average pitcher innings & long career has a lot of value. From age 25 – 45, his worst ERA + was 91 (I know it’s not a great stat, but I’m looking at BR) and he only had 4 other years below 100 (99, 98, 98, 94).
Jed MC - July 11, 2008
Which would mean he had many years where he was ~average, no?
JI - July 11, 2008
Yeah, Ryan had a lot of average-ish years.
I think the high K numbers and lots of no hitters make people think he was a lot better than he really was. I think he’s a clear HOFer, but not the super-elite player like a Randy or Pedro.
Jed MC - July 11, 2008
Yes.
JI - July 11, 2008
Doesn't Tom Glavine fall under this same category as Ryan in that respect?
Fin - July 11, 2008
That's a good example too.
Although, after taking a quick look, Glavine appears to be more consistently better than Ryan was.
Jed MC - July 11, 2008
That was ridiculous
Me, following RJ’s stats that year:
June: Oh, he’ll slow down.
July: Oh, he’ll slow down.
August: GOOD LORD
Gomez - July 11, 2008
I was a bit bummed when he didn't make it
but I had two very good teams to distract me.
JI - July 11, 2008
I'm beginning to remember why I loved him so much when I was a kid.
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
1973 was an obscene year for pitchers
as far as overall effectiveness he was much more Kerry Wood than Roger Clemens.
JI - July 10, 2008
Sure. But I had Nolan Ryan's numbers in front of me and was flabbergasted.
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
And also, considering the amount of strikeouts and BBs
coupled with the IP and batters faced, imagine how many pitches he must have thrown.
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
Just chat up Dave Neihaus
I wish game logs for back then had pitch counts, but here’s an example.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=ryanno01&year=1989&t=p
JI - July 11, 2008
If I could chat up Dave Neihaus I would never let the conversation end.
Aaron Campeau - July 11, 2008
He might eventually start saying the same things though.
Fin - July 11, 2008
Eh, that'd be okay.
Aaron Campeau - July 11, 2008
That's when you hand him the bottle and a tumbler
Gomez - July 11, 2008
Needs more Buhner.
BrianL - July 11, 2008
This comment isn't sarcasm.
JI - July 10, 2008
Yeah I'm fascinated by his post 1987 numbers at the moment.
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
Whoa
Freaking…whoa.
Frosty Raptor - July 10, 2008
Fangraphs.
Aaron Campeau - July 10, 2008
Just thought of this now
After reading Jeff’s game thread rant about how good pitchers like McGowan get injured but shitty pitchers like Livan Hernandez stay durable just now, I thought of another one. Jarrod Washburn, he hasn’t been on the DL once since being here, yet he’s been a pile of crap. He’s probably blocked the way for RRS/Morrow/Dickey for quite a while. Hopefully he will get traded soon.
Fin - July 10, 2008
You spelled
R.A. wrong
naviomelo - July 10, 2008
I love you so much Dickey.
BrianL - July 10, 2008
Yeah, he should drop the periods.
Unlike E.R.I.C B.E.D.A.R.D, who has a bunch of periods, RA Dickey is manly.
joof - July 10, 2008
I see what you did there
Gomez - July 11, 2008
Not bad.
JI - July 11, 2008
At least this was slightly creative.
BrianL - July 11, 2008
Like RA Scion!
Seattle hip-hop artist. He’s pretty fucking awesome.
Teej - July 10, 2008
Or it could be the other way around
Like R.A. the Rugged Man, hip-hop artist and batshit crazy person
Nick S - July 11, 2008
Yes, R.A. the Rugged Man is not stable.
Maybe he should lose the periods.
Teej - July 11, 2008
I love this comment
Jeff Sullivan - July 10, 2008
Me too.
JI - July 10, 2008
I love this new sig.
Kirsten Schlewitz - July 11, 2008
A subtle, yet very effective fancomment.
Almost rec worthy.
BrianL - July 10, 2008
It reminds me of a book author's name.
Fin - July 10, 2008
I listened to some interviews with RA Dickey discussing the knuckleball in spring training.
He’s a really, really smart sounding guy.
BrianL - July 11, 2008
Boy that DP really screwed up Lopez's WPA
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - July 11, 2008
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