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Designated rivals upon the inception of interleague play, the bitter hatred between the Padres and Mariners has a long and storied history. They ruined the debut of Safeco Field. We've taken nine of twelve at Petco Park. They killed us with Rondell White. We killed them with Richie Sexson. They gave us Al Martin. We gave them Jeff Cirillo. They gave us Ben Davis. We gave them Brett Tomko. They gave us Dave Hansen. We gave them Dave Hansen. Their front office made us look bad. We slept with their mother. And so on and so forth. These two teams haven't been on good terms in more than a decade, and the degree of mutual animosity only increases in magnitude by the week.

But where the rivalry was already marked by a fervent intensity before, now conditions are beginning to approach an unmistakable flash point. For, with the Mariners tanking in an effort to secure next year's #1 pick, the Padres have taken it upon themselves to beat us at our own game.

I had my own doubts at first - as recently as six weeks ago, the Padres stood five games in front of us in the standings, even going so far as to win five games in a row in some desperate push for the playoffs. Had you asked me at that point to compare the two teams, I'd have told you that their seasons were headed in opposite directions. But since then, having acknowledged that they don't have a chance for October, the Padres have shifted gears and made up ground in a God damn hurry. Since the morning of June 9th, we've sputtered along to a 16-22 record, but the Padres have upped the ante by going an unfathomable 10-27. Over a full season, that's a 44-win pace. This team means business, and where ordinarily it'd be easy to write it off as a statistical fluke, they lost all elements of subtlety and nuance when they let us sweep them at home and then proceeded to give Randy Wolf away for free. That's not even trying to keep it a secret. That's coming right out with zubaz and a megaphone and declaring that not only do you intend to lose, but you intend to lose better, and you intend to lose ugly. The Padres are trying to win like DMX tries to whisper.

These are the times that try men's souls. The Padres aren't dicking around. That team wants it, and if the Mariners have any desire to see their tanking effort pan out, they have to want it more. Trade Raul Ibanez. Keep Erik Bedard on the sidelines. Let Miguel Batista try to work things out. Tell us that Jose Vidro and Miguel Cairo are the kinds of players that need "consistent at bats" to make things happen. Give Bryan LaHair several cups of coffee. Make Jeff Clement earn his starts. These are the sorts of things that could help this team accomplish its goal. I'm sure you can think of a few others.

The Mariners already half-assed their attempt to build a contender. Now that those dreams have been brutally annihilated, all we can hope is that they learned a lesson from this, and that they go on to fully commit themselves to Plan B. After all, the season's only lost if you view the standings in descending order. There's still plenty of time for the other race to be decided, so if the Mariners intend to keep pace, now's the time to prove it. Let's see it, Lee. Let's see it, Jose. Let's see it, Miguels. For once in my life, I believe in you. Don't let me down.

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Biggest Contribution: Jose Vidro, +32.1%
Biggest Suckfest: Kenji Johjima, -45.7%
Most Important AB: Johjima DP, -32.5%
Most Important Pitch: Lowell single, -23.5%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +28.5%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -78.5%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
(What is this chart?)

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What a fucking horseshit day

Saw that on SportsCenter. So funny.

It’s hard to make Pujols look stupid, but C.C. was ridiculous today.

My copy of avi edit ran out so there's this crappy take 1

and no take 2

Necessary.
Also, if you could point me in the direction of your gif-o-matic...
I sucked it up and put some of that LL donation money towards AVIedit registration.
You told me you spent it all on beer.
I tell a lot of lies.
This is a more ethical use of our money.
That's why I forged the suggestion box and just bought you beer.
Christ.
As a child I had a copy of game 3 of the 2005 NLCS on DVD

I watched Hector Luna air-mail the backstop in a recursive loop for what seemed like hours, so I think I’ll gif Edmonds getting tossed from Game 4 instead.

Wait, what?
As a child

2005 NLCS

Child at heart.
I like to start stories that way.
I found it funny
Most people do.
What is happening here?
Felix watching Vidro's home run
Perhaps if we have to take Kei Igawa in the Washburn deal...

We can stick him in the rotation. He’d be the second coming of Ho-Ram.

We'd be on the saddle with him for three years after this year.

Thus contradicting our pessimism today, optimism tomorrow view here.

Even if Igawa is awful, he still makes half as much as Batista and one-third of what Silva earns.

I’m not saying I want Igawa, but it’s not like he would be a big drain on the payroll. He’s owed $12 million total over the next three years. And he hasn’t been awful in AAA this year. If we’re dumping Washburn and his whole contract, I don’t think taking Igawa would be a big deal.

There has to be a way to dump him by which we don't assume any future commitments.
Washburn or Igawa?
That would be preferable, yes.

I guess I’ve been reading the rumors of Washburn and Vidro for Igawa and a decent prospect.

I should stop reading trade rumors, now that I look at that.

I think this rumor stemmed from Hickey

Which I would’ve been thrilled if it was this time last year, but basically I have given up hope on this season. Well actually I do have hope, its called Strasburg.

The Yankees want to win.

I don’t see how reconstructing the Mariners really helps them towards that end.

Who says we have to play him?
Igawa in AAA: 7.1 / 2.5 / .95

Eastern League as a whole: 7.4 / 3.2 / .87

Igawa = tad bit above average.
In AAA.
At 28/29.

This is why Free Agent arms races are always a good idea.
One thing in the Mariners' credit:

When they lose, they still manage to put entertaining players on the field like Ichiro, Beltre, Felix, Bedard and (sometimes) Yuni.

Aside from Jake Peavy, I can’t come up with a reason to watch the Padres. (At least not in person, since Vasgersian can often make a shitty game entertaining.)

But I think the Mariners do a better job of tricking people into watching a 100-loss team than the Padres do.

Headley's pretty cool

and Khalil’s so dull he’s exciting.

Cla Meredith is fun too
And Heath Bell is like a good pitcher version of Vidro.
This makes no sense.
He's fat
Wouldn't that make him the white right handed reliever version of CC Sabathia?
Or the relief pitcher version of a fat man
You're not going to beat my comment.
But Graham goes to school in Fancyland.
David Wells?
Or a white Ray King?

At least he was a reliever.

If they had kept Edmonds this wouldn't be happening.
To be fair, the outfield isn't one of the weak spots.

The second baseman, shortstop, 5th starter, long reliever, short reliever, mop-up guy, closer, and bench have all been problems.

Motherfucker has been making my life miserable for months.
Khalil's fun to watch in the field, yes.

Watching him hit makes me cry. At least at Petco.

I like that he's taking the Bad Beltre approach to a whole new level
Yeah, he's really something.

At least Beltre can make contact. Khalil is just straight-up Two True Outcomes. I like him, but it pains me to see him look so awful so often.

If it pains him, you'll never be able to visually prove it.
I wish I could find the footage of an interview he was obviously forced to do on Channel 4.

He seriously just half-smiled like an embarrassed 12-year-old, his eyes darting around nervously, answering in one-word sentences before the interviewer pretty much gave up and let him off the hook.

I went looking for a good photo or video clip, and I couldn’t find what I was looking for, but I did find this, which made me laugh:

Adrian Gonzales?
For as awesome as he is

Adrian Gonzalez is remarkably boring.

Isn't that something to the Padres credit, that they don't trick people into watching a shitty team?
Do we know what next year's top 3-5 in the draft are yet?

Obviously, Strasburg’s #1 with a bullet unless he stinks up the joint next year, but who looks like they’ll be after him?

If anyone missed it, FJM live blogged the game

click on comments

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Just great baserunning by Vidro to go first to third there. Guy’s the total package.
A real player would have scored.
From first on a single to right field?
It can happen on a hit and run.
Jeff,

you are one of a handful of men I have an affection for bordering on love. I salute you, sir.

I’m not gay.

You're still behind Robert on the depth chart

don’t hold out

No time to post and get cozy with y'all

I just enjoy reading the content.

Just make sure to salute him with a quality beer.
Peanuts

With the concept of winning by losing, shouldn’t the chart be flipped upside down and the players get negative points for a ‘good’ performance. Vidro’s homer yesterday would have added -.321 towards a Mariner loss and Kenji’s suckfest would make him the player of the day and largest contributor.

And the peanut thing the Mariners are doing is awesome for those who have that issue.

Stop! DROP! Shut 'em down open up shop!
This song has one of my favorite endings ever

(RATTATTATTATTATTATTATTAT)
...






TALK IS CHEAP MOTHERFUCKER

Oh my god...was this the Ruff Ryders?
You guys are screwed

We just got held scoreless by a guy with a 19.50 ERA.

DEFEAT WILL BE OURS!!! AND SO WILL STRASBURG!!! (Until we realize there is a signability issue and then draft some other local kid who doesn’t have Boras for an agent and sucks.)

Oh shit, It's on!

It's on...like Donkey Kong.

Excellent post, Jeff. Sadly you forgot to mention a player that we were lucky enough to acquire from the Mariners…a player who has already done so much to help us keep our lead in the Strasburg: Cha Seung Baek. HIs 0-4 record and 6.75 ERA at Petco Park (opponents are hitting .356 against him at home - AT PETCO PARK!!) alone make him such a valuable piece in our bid for the number one pick.

Taking five of six games from us, sleeping with our mom, giving us Baek…the Mariners are the gift that keeps on giving.

Oh…and stop by Gaslamp Ball to check out our cool “Race for the Strasburg” standings.

Baek's ERA could be like 2.5 and he'd probably still be winless

You guys are better at this than we are.

His site has Strasburg standings

clearly they want it more.

Yea its about time we get the Strasburg standings going.

Show them we’re for real.

I just stole their widget and added it to the sidebar
His FIP is 3.08 and his OPS+ is 111

but yeah, HE’S probably the reason the Pads are out in front….

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