Designated rivals upon the inception of interleague play, the bitter hatred between the Padres and Mariners has a long and storied history. They ruined the debut of Safeco Field. We've taken nine of twelve at Petco Park. They killed us with Rondell White. We killed them with Richie Sexson. They gave us Al Martin. We gave them Jeff Cirillo. They gave us Ben Davis. We gave them Brett Tomko. They gave us Dave Hansen. We gave them Dave Hansen. Their front office made us look bad. We slept with their mother. And so on and so forth. These two teams haven't been on good terms in more than a decade, and the degree of mutual animosity only increases in magnitude by the week.
But where the rivalry was already marked by a fervent intensity before, now conditions are beginning to approach an unmistakable flash point. For, with the Mariners tanking in an effort to secure next year's #1 pick, the Padres have taken it upon themselves to beat us at our own game.
I had my own doubts at first - as recently as six weeks ago, the Padres stood five games in front of us in the standings, even going so far as to win five games in a row in some desperate push for the playoffs. Had you asked me at that point to compare the two teams, I'd have told you that their seasons were headed in opposite directions. But since then, having acknowledged that they don't have a chance for October, the Padres have shifted gears and made up ground in a God damn hurry. Since the morning of June 9th, we've sputtered along to a 16-22 record, but the Padres have upped the ante by going an unfathomable 10-27. Over a full season, that's a 44-win pace. This team means business, and where ordinarily it'd be easy to write it off as a statistical fluke, they lost all elements of subtlety and nuance when they let us sweep them at home and then proceeded to give Randy Wolf away for free. That's not even trying to keep it a secret. That's coming right out with zubaz and a megaphone and declaring that not only do you intend to lose, but you intend to lose better, and you intend to lose ugly. The Padres are trying to win like DMX tries to whisper.
These are the times that try men's souls. The Padres aren't dicking around. That team wants it, and if the Mariners have any desire to see their tanking effort pan out, they have to want it more. Trade Raul Ibanez. Keep Erik Bedard on the sidelines. Let Miguel Batista try to work things out. Tell us that Jose Vidro and Miguel Cairo are the kinds of players that need "consistent at bats" to make things happen. Give Bryan LaHair several cups of coffee. Make Jeff Clement earn his starts. These are the sorts of things that could help this team accomplish its goal. I'm sure you can think of a few others.
The Mariners already half-assed their attempt to build a contender. Now that those dreams have been brutally annihilated, all we can hope is that they learned a lesson from this, and that they go on to fully commit themselves to Plan B. After all, the season's only lost if you view the standings in descending order. There's still plenty of time for the other race to be decided, so if the Mariners intend to keep pace, now's the time to prove it. Let's see it, Lee. Let's see it, Jose. Let's see it, Miguels. For once in my life, I believe in you. Don't let me down.
Biggest Contribution: Jose Vidro, +32.1%
Biggest Suckfest: Kenji Johjima, -45.7%
Most Important AB: Johjima DP, -32.5%
Most Important Pitch: Lowell single, -23.5%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +28.5%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -78.5%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
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What a fucking horseshit day
JI - July 23, 2008
Saw that on SportsCenter. So funny.
It’s hard to make Pujols look stupid, but C.C. was ridiculous today.
Teej - July 23, 2008
My copy of avi edit ran out so there's this crappy take 1
and no take 2
JI - July 23, 2008
Jeff Sullivan - July 23, 2008
Necessary.
JI - July 23, 2008
Also, if you could point me in the direction of your gif-o-matic...
JI - July 23, 2008
I sucked it up and put some of that LL donation money towards AVIedit registration.
Jeff Sullivan - July 23, 2008
You told me you spent it all on beer.
Teej - July 23, 2008
I tell a lot of lies.
Jeff Sullivan - July 23, 2008
This is a more ethical use of our money.
JI - July 23, 2008
That's why I forged the suggestion box and just bought you beer.
Robert - July 24, 2008
Christ.
JI - July 23, 2008
As a child I had a copy of game 3 of the 2005 NLCS on DVD
I watched Hector Luna air-mail the backstop in a recursive loop for what seemed like hours, so I think I’ll gif Edmonds getting tossed from Game 4 instead.
JI - July 23, 2008
Wait, what?
Eyebrows - July 24, 2008
Child at heart.
Kirsten Schlewitz - July 24, 2008
I like to start stories that way.
JI - July 24, 2008
I found it funny
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - July 24, 2008
Most people do.
JI - July 24, 2008
What is happening here?
r0ry - July 24, 2008
Felix watching Vidro's home run
Jeff Sullivan - July 24, 2008
Perhaps if we have to take Kei Igawa in the Washburn deal...
We can stick him in the rotation. He’d be the second coming of Ho-Ram.
Frosty Raptor - July 23, 2008
We'd be on the saddle with him for three years after this year.
Thus contradicting our pessimism today, optimism tomorrow view here.
Fin - July 23, 2008
Even if Igawa is awful, he still makes half as much as Batista and one-third of what Silva earns.
I’m not saying I want Igawa, but it’s not like he would be a big drain on the payroll. He’s owed $12 million total over the next three years. And he hasn’t been awful in AAA this year. If we’re dumping Washburn and his whole contract, I don’t think taking Igawa would be a big deal.
Teej - July 23, 2008
There has to be a way to dump him by which we don't assume any future commitments.
Jeff Sullivan - July 24, 2008
Washburn or Igawa?
Fin - July 24, 2008
Washburn
Jeff Sullivan - July 24, 2008
That would be preferable, yes.
I guess I’ve been reading the rumors of Washburn and Vidro for Igawa and a decent prospect.
I should stop reading trade rumors, now that I look at that.
Teej - July 24, 2008
I think this rumor stemmed from Hickey
Which I would’ve been thrilled if it was this time last year, but basically I have given up hope on this season. Well actually I do have hope, its called Strasburg.
Fin - July 24, 2008
The Yankees want to win.
I don’t see how reconstructing the Mariners really helps them towards that end.
Jeff Sullivan - July 24, 2008
Who says we have to play him?
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - July 24, 2008
Ownership.
BrianL - July 24, 2008
Igawa in AAA: 7.1 / 2.5 / .95
Eastern League as a whole: 7.4 / 3.2 / .87
Igawa = tad bit above average.
In AAA.
At 28/29.
Matthew - July 24, 2008
This is why Free Agent arms races are always a good idea.
JI - July 24, 2008
One thing in the Mariners' credit:
When they lose, they still manage to put entertaining players on the field like Ichiro, Beltre, Felix, Bedard and (sometimes) Yuni.
Aside from Jake Peavy, I can’t come up with a reason to watch the Padres. (At least not in person, since Vasgersian can often make a shitty game entertaining.)
But I think the Mariners do a better job of tricking people into watching a 100-loss team than the Padres do.
Teej - July 23, 2008
Headley's pretty cool
and Khalil’s so dull he’s exciting.
Jeff Sullivan - July 23, 2008
Cla Meredith is fun too
Graham MacAree - July 23, 2008
And Heath Bell is like a good pitcher version of Vidro.
Coach Owens - July 23, 2008
This makes no sense.
JI - July 23, 2008
He's fat
Jeff Sullivan - July 23, 2008
Wouldn't that make him the white right handed reliever version of CC Sabathia?
JI - July 23, 2008
Touche...
Coach Owens - July 23, 2008
Or the relief pitcher version of a fat man
Graham MacAree - July 23, 2008
You're not going to beat my comment.
JI - July 23, 2008
But Graham goes to school in Fancyland.
Coach Owens - July 23, 2008
Went
Graham MacAree - July 23, 2008
David Wells?
Fin - July 23, 2008
Or a white Ray King?
At least he was a reliever.
Eyebrows - July 24, 2008
If they had kept Edmonds this wouldn't be happening.
JI - July 23, 2008
To be fair, the outfield isn't one of the weak spots.
The second baseman, shortstop, 5th starter, long reliever, short reliever, mop-up guy, closer, and bench have all been problems.
craig3410 - July 23, 2008
Motherfucker has been making my life miserable for months.
JI - July 23, 2008
Khalil's fun to watch in the field, yes.
Watching him hit makes me cry. At least at Petco.
Teej - July 23, 2008
I like that he's taking the Bad Beltre approach to a whole new level
Jeff Sullivan - July 23, 2008
Trade!
JI - July 23, 2008
Yeah, he's really something.
At least Beltre can make contact. Khalil is just straight-up Two True Outcomes. I like him, but it pains me to see him look so awful so often.
Teej - July 23, 2008
If it pains him, you'll never be able to visually prove it.
Jeff Sullivan - July 23, 2008
I wish I could find the footage of an interview he was obviously forced to do on Channel 4.
He seriously just half-smiled like an embarrassed 12-year-old, his eyes darting around nervously, answering in one-word sentences before the interviewer pretty much gave up and let him off the hook.
I went looking for a good photo or video clip, and I couldn’t find what I was looking for, but I did find this, which made me laugh:

Teej - July 23, 2008
Adrian Gonzales?
joof - July 24, 2008
For as awesome as he is
Adrian Gonzalez is remarkably boring.
Jeff Sullivan - July 24, 2008
Isn't that something to the Padres credit, that they don't trick people into watching a shitty team?
Last Fan Of Jose Lopez - July 24, 2008
Do we know what next year's top 3-5 in the draft are yet?
Obviously, Strasburg’s #1 with a bullet unless he stinks up the joint next year, but who looks like they’ll be after him?
craig3410 - July 23, 2008
If anyone missed it, FJM live blogged the game
click on comments
JI - July 23, 2008
.
Aaron Campeau - July 23, 2008
A real player would have scored.
JI - July 23, 2008
From first on a single to right field?
BrianL - July 24, 2008
It can happen on a hit and run.
JI - July 24, 2008
Jeff,
you are one of a handful of men I have an affection for bordering on love. I salute you, sir.
I’m not gay.
spittle8 - July 23, 2008
gay
Teej - July 23, 2008
You're still behind Robert on the depth chart
don’t hold out
JI - July 23, 2008
No time to post and get cozy with y'all
I just enjoy reading the content.
spittle8 - July 24, 2008
Just make sure to salute him with a quality beer.
Kirsten Schlewitz - July 24, 2008
Peanuts
With the concept of winning by losing, shouldn’t the chart be flipped upside down and the players get negative points for a ‘good’ performance. Vidro’s homer yesterday would have added -.321 towards a Mariner loss and Kenji’s suckfest would make him the player of the day and largest contributor.
And the peanut thing the Mariners are doing is awesome for those who have that issue.
PascoJoe - July 24, 2008
Stop! DROP! Shut 'em down open up shop!
kentroyals5 - July 24, 2008
This song has one of my favorite endings ever
(RATTATTATTATTATTATTATTAT)
...
TALK IS CHEAP MOTHERFUCKER
Gomez - July 24, 2008
Oh my god...was this the Ruff Ryders?
Phil Hatzenbuehler - July 25, 2008
You guys are screwed
We just got held scoreless by a guy with a 19.50 ERA.
DEFEAT WILL BE OURS!!! AND SO WILL STRASBURG!!! (Until we realize there is a signability issue and then draft some other local kid who doesn’t have Boras for an agent and sucks.)
Winfield's Ghost - July 24, 2008
Oh shit, It's on!
Fin - July 24, 2008
It's on...like Donkey Kong.
Excellent post, Jeff. Sadly you forgot to mention a player that we were lucky enough to acquire from the Mariners…a player who has already done so much to help us keep our lead in the Strasburg: Cha Seung Baek. HIs 0-4 record and 6.75 ERA at Petco Park (opponents are hitting .356 against him at home - AT PETCO PARK!!) alone make him such a valuable piece in our bid for the number one pick.
Taking five of six games from us, sleeping with our mom, giving us Baek…the Mariners are the gift that keeps on giving.
Oh…and stop by Gaslamp Ball to check out our cool “Race for the Strasburg” standings.
Drama - July 25, 2008
Baek's ERA could be like 2.5 and he'd probably still be winless
You guys are better at this than we are.
Jeff Sullivan - July 25, 2008
His site has Strasburg standings
clearly they want it more.
JI - July 25, 2008
Yea its about time we get the Strasburg standings going.
Show them we’re for real.
Fin - July 25, 2008
I just stole their widget and added it to the sidebar
Jeff Sullivan - July 25, 2008
Awesome
JI - July 25, 2008
His FIP is 3.08 and his OPS+ is 111
but yeah, HE’S probably the reason the Pads are out in front….
marc w - July 25, 2008
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