Lookout Landing

Overreaction Fanboy Post #2

ZOMGZ MARINER ROTATION!

MORROW, FELIX, BEDARD, RRS, SILVA

ThundaPC - September 5, 2008 reply

Four of these are being paid much too little, while one is being paid way, way too much.

joof - September 5, 2008 reply

If they're not going to spend money on free agents, I'm completely fine with this.

fuck wilson bedimit

Get it out of your system, Robert.

Today’s a day you should be happy.

So, Jeff, I'm guessing your checklist for Morrow looks pretty good.

i havent gotten home yet.

did jeff crack a smile?

Point #6 was going to be "throw a no-hitter" but I was in a rush and had to end it

Jeff Sullivan - September 5, 2008 reply

How did Tui look at 3B?

eknpdx - September 5, 2008 reply

Who the hell knows?

Did he even field a ball?

Jeff Sullivan - September 5, 2008 reply

you bet your ass he did!

he also hit a double!

I actually got curious and had to go look

He threw out A-Rod on a grounder in the 4th.
He caught a leadoff popup in the 5th from Giambi

That’s all.

I don't think anyone was really paying attention

I recall a “nice arm” comment though

Corco - September 5, 2008 reply

He actually looked good, didnt look bad in any at bat, nice opposite field double

and even his fly outs to center, were pretty good swings.

DarkLou - September 5, 2008 reply

This is way late but...

Anyone else hear Niehaus say tui was terrifc at 3rd base? I’m guessing Dave doesn’t have time to catch many Tacoma games…

The radio crew's going to talk up the local boy in his debut

It almost didn’t matter how Tui did today.

Yeah true..

How do you think Tui will do with more experience at 3rd? does he have potential to be a solid 3rd baseman? That was my first time seeing him play live today

He's perpetually struggled with his defense in the minors

Of course, he’s also only 22 and did get rushed some in the minors. Things could change for the better with some work, but right now he’s Morse-like with his defense, which doesn’t help with a slower Yuni at SS.

yikes.

Morse-like is about as low as you can go

Morse isn't terrible at third.

He IS terrible in the OF, and should never have even been allowed to experiment in the OF, but he can handle 3rd and 1st pretty respectably.

Tui’s got a ways to go defensively, especially since he’s only recently moved over to third. But he might get there yet. He just needs to remember to WATCH the ball into his glove:

PositivePaul - September 5, 2008 reply

Well yeah, that's what I mean by Morse-like

His glove and physical abilities are okay. His fielding fundamentals needs work. His range… heh… well….

Susheel Ramasahayam - September 5, 2008 reply

Hardenesque?

But less injuries please

As I was trying to race home to watch the end of this, I got a call from work.

Our CC processing was down, and I’m the only person who could possibly hope to fix it. As soon as I hung up the phone, Betemit doubled. Goddammit.

Thanks

The two stats that jump out at me are
1. Morrow only threw his fastball 58% of the time tonight
2. Average fastball velocity: 95.7 MPH

Was good to see Morrow get a decent number of swing and misses on his breaking stuff

PAY ATTENTION FELIX

No shit.

This was refreshing. Talent PLUS not pitching like an idiot!

Seriously, somebody send Felix a printout of the pitch distribution from today's game.

And HIGHLIGHT ALL OF THE OFFSPEED STUFF

What's funny is Morrow's fastball is better than Felix's, and Felix has sick breaking stuff.

This is like the opposite of what should be happening.

SOMEONE FIRE STOTTLEMYRE BEFORE HE RUINS MORROW

Stottlemyre: You need to establish the fastball.

Morrow: Establish this, bitch. [EPIC PIMP SLAP]
Stottlemyre: [flies into dugout]
Morrow: I learned that from some Vanilla Ice wannabe in Tacoma.

And rec'd.

BrianL - September 6, 2008 reply

Rec'd.

Nicely done.

That just made the season so much easier to stomach.

Why oh why couldn’t he be in the rotation from the beginning?

(No answers please, it was rhetorical.)

True dat.

I’m excited for Felix, Bedard, Morrow, SIlva, RRS?

That is what I’m praying for anyway…

Make RRS #4 and Silva #5 and it works for me.

If RRS ends up panning out as a #4 that is.

If we had a real SS, non-disastrous LF defense, and an average 1B and DH, blah blah blah this team is dumb but I'm excited so I'll shut up.

I hear you

Felix, Bedard (healthy), Morrow in the rotation is enough for me to get excited about next year. Even if Morrow struggled from time to time it would be better then watching the crap they threw out there this year.

If they are going to blow things up (and they are going to blow things up) it's nice that I'm more excited about Morrow than I was at 7:00 tonight.

The nice thing is, if Morrow and RRS keep pitching well

It’s going to be very hard for them to justify keeping Washburn around next year.

Awwwwwwwwwwww...........

rtang - September 5, 2008 reply

Where is he going to go, though?

Anywhere they can get partial salary relief for him, hopefully

I doubt they’ll get the full salary taken off their hands now but they can likely get a portion of it taken off their hands.

That is, if they stop being stupid and reverse course on the whole salary dump stubbornness now that they’ve gauged the fan outrage over it.

Obviously it's not salary relief that they're after.

I envision the world's most expensive bullpen by mid-season next year.

I'd be okay with that at this point

Washburn can be the Tug McGraw to Silva’s Goose Gossage for all I care.

If they're going to be around, might as well minimize the damage they can do.

My grammar blows tonight

Even if RRS pitches like crap and Morrow goes back to the pen

its going to be very hard for them to justify keeping Washburn around next year.

Washburn’s salary == Strasburg’s signing bonus

Blicks - September 5, 2008 reply

You're forgetting...

…who’s President of this club (and thinks he’s a pocket general manager)…

rtang - September 5, 2008 reply

I know

It just won’t be justifiable from a rational person’s POV.

Blicks - September 6, 2008 reply

I think one of the best parts of tonight

Was that (and I don’t have pitch F/X data to confirm this so take it with a big grain of salt), but it seemed like he didn’t have great control of his curveball, but he was still drawing swinging strikes with it when it was nowhere near the zone just because they were all sitting fastball.

Awesome what mixing your pitches can do.

My favorite part:

I loved the fact he went so far with the no-no with Tui at 3d and Balentien in CF.

batura - September 5, 2008 reply

Tui is a brick, but WLAD isn't as bad as people think

I haven't heard a ton on Tui's defense yet.

What’s the story?

Tui's D

Better than Willie’s. Worse than Beltre’s.
Overall, he’s a solid defensive 3B.

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

This is about as different from everything else I've heard as is possible.

I was being unsuccessfully sarcastic, sorry.

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

Nevermind then.

Worse than Beltre

isn;t much of a criticism….

rtang - September 5, 2008 reply

It wasn't terrible today, but extremely small sample size

He had what, one-two plays?

I’d say it was a small sample size.. ha.

Normally he is best classified as a trainwreck

Could we transition him to SS?

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

We transitioned him FROM short.

He’s too big to go back.

That's no good.

Does he stick at the position?

Seattle is running out of choices for a while if he is SOO awful.

I have heard from many different sources of varying credibility that his future is most likely at a corner OF spot.

He couldn't be any worse than Raul.

Right?

I'm pretty sure I would be better than Raul.

But nowhere near as entertaining.

What if I "forgot" to secure my belt and chased a flyball with my pants around my ankles?

Needs more shoelaces tied together.

I'd play an entire gmae with TP stuck to my cleats.

I'm sold.

acblue in LF 2009!

Can he hit tho?

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

Can WIllie?

Can Cairo?

Can Yuni?

Can Johjima?

Can Wlad?

Please stop me.

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and again, amirite?

You could be the designated bunter

AKA our #2 hitter

acblue = Cairo?

Ouch.

My ears are nowhere near that big.

If you strike out 500 times a year, you can't hit into double plays and Ichiro gets a lot of strikes to run on.

This is in the sequel to Moneyball.

Failball

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

Takethemoneyandrunball

Nice.

I could hit from my knees and be the new Eddie Gaedel.

Yeah, but he probably takes more pride in it than you would.

makes more sense.

But Seattle obviously has better prospects slotted into the COF in the future.

Saunders, etc

Maybe even Prentice Redman, who knows.

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

I've never been high on Prentice Redman.

Prentice Redman is 27 and not a prospect.

You should try it. Gets you fucked up pretty good.

Aw shit.

Comment of the year

that’s awesome

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

Would have been better if I had replied to the right comment.

I’m Prenticing balls right now, though, so it’s not all that surprising.

So that's why he never panned out

It was the peyote constantly flowing through his bloodstream.

I almost died because of this post.

Who's the outfield down in Tacoma now anyway?

There’s Reed and Balentien up here; who’s left?

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

Season's kind of over.

But Redman, Diaz maybe. Saunders. I gues…

Halman will probably be in AA to start the year, I'm assuming.

He might get up sometime, though.

That would make sense.

Moore should be up in AAA to start the year (off topic.. whatever)

exactly.

I saw him hit an absolute blast in Portland’s PGE Park earlier in the year. Still.. he’s got no future.

Functional but still needs a lot of work

+1

WLAD made a couple of nice plays tonight.

appleshampoo - September 5, 2008 reply

No +1 please.

Yuni made a couple "nice" plays, but he ain't getting any pluses around here.

+1 is verboten.

I hadn't heard

Not saying I’m a veteran LL’er, but I’ve been around off and on for a couple years and have never heard +1 forbidden. Gomez said WLAD isn’t that bad, I was just corraborating with evidence from tonights game, he had 2 really nice runnig catches. Does it mean he’s a gold glove CF, no, but he still has a small sample size as a ML CF so I think it’s relevant. Yuni has a big enough sample size that we pretty much know he sucks at his position.

appleshampoo - September 5, 2008 reply

Tui's arm and relative speed would be OK in the OF

Wlad, I hope today, showed people that he’s very, very respectable in CF. He made some pretty awesome plays to keep the no-no going…

PositivePaul - September 5, 2008 reply

He looks good to me

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

Let's just hope this isn't a fluke

like Clay Buchholz and his MLB debut.

Blicks - September 5, 2008 reply

You mean the debut where he didn't throw the no-hitter?

Buchholz isn't a fluke.

………………..yet.

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

True, but he hasn't shown that he is an MLB caliber SP.

Although he could very easily turn it around.

Blicks - September 5, 2008 reply

I just wanted to make a comment.

I think Wlad showed that he can play a pretty decent CF, too. He looked real solid out there tonight…

PositivePaul - September 5, 2008 reply

That would be like finding out the decoder ring in your Cracker Jack box is made of platinum.

He didn't really have great hands on that over the shoulder catch

But at least he made the catch, so I guess that’s all that matters.

Agreed.

Him and Reed could tandem up nicely.

OR WE COULD SIGN ELLISON FOR FIVE YEARS 60 MIL WOOOO

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

The way Balentien has looked at the plate, playing a competent CF would

appear to be his only shot at sticking here long term. His .230/300 BA/OBP with 20-25 homers could maybe be passable in CF

DarkLou - September 5, 2008 reply

I'm not the world's biggest Balentien fan, but he's much better than he's looked at the plate so far.

He's still slow as fuck

I don’t like him out there unless it’s an emergency

Speaking of range...

what the hell has gotten into Yuni? Watching chubs run around like that had me busting up.

About 75,000 of these.

Maybe they've started him on an exercise regimen finally

….probably not.

I'll blame it on the atmosphere.

I’m betting he needs an epic nap after tonight.

Yuniesky Betancourt placed on the 60 day DL due to chubbyness.

Yuniesky Betancourt placed on the 60-day DL to keep Bedard company

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

Yuniesky Betancourt place on the 60-day DL

because Carlos Silva ate him.

Yuniesky Betancourt could eat 60 sandwiches

And a bad case of the sillies

Oh that silly, AIDS infested primate.

He's probably diabetic too.

.Taylor - September 5, 2008 reply

Would partially explain the difficulty hitting,

since diabetic neuropathy affects the retina, diminishing the effective visual field.

Potassium overdose.

One of the most amazing games I've ever been to..obviously

The crowd was fantastic from about the 6th inning on. Everyone was kinda buzzing but no one really overtly clamoring about what they were watching. Getting loud and pumped up before the scoreboard told them too. 30k jumping to their feet all at one moment after each strikeout late in the game. I thought we were playing for something…and I think the fans knew what it was. Our future.

I’d like to thank Morrow for getting my weekend off to a fantastic start.

kentroyals5 - September 5, 2008 reply

I knew something was going on the minute I turned on the radio in the 7th.

The crowd was absolutely electric.

I haven't heard it like that in years

kentroyals5 - September 5, 2008 reply

jealous

Yes agreed

I was fortunate enough to be behind home and I was up cheering after two strikes (a la the Randy days) from the beginning of the sixth. My Father-In-Law was having me do some stop watch work for him as he’s a scout but after five innings took it from me so, in his words, I could be a fan again.

Thank you Brandon. Tonight was an oasis in a large, hot desert.

TheBishop - September 6, 2008 reply

Oh my GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE I DIDN'T TAKE THOSE TICKETS FROM NOLA

bwahahahahaha

I am going to regret this for the rest of my life.

It was spectacular

If only there was TiVo for life

erk.. REWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND

I actually do this all the time.

I will be sitting listening to someone talk, then I lose my attention, and the first thing I think is “rewind” when I want to hear what they said. Unfortunately, I have lost the remote for life.

:(

You can't hear that crowd and the roars...it was fantastic. Kingdome-like.

kentroyals5 - September 6, 2008 reply

Heh...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_(film)

Fail

Click

Graham MacAree - September 6, 2008 reply

I curled up into a little ball and nearly cried after the double though

To me, these sorts of emotional responses are just as much a part of why I'm a baseball fan as the positive ones.

Tino’s HR in Game 5 of the 2001 ALCS is probably my most vivid memory, and at the time it was unbearable. But Goddammit, I felt something.

Bernie Williams or Alfonso Soriano is the inflatable cuntbag that you are currently thinking of.

Nope, Tino. 3-run-HR in the 8th Inning off Paniagua.

Game was most likely already over (it was 9-3) but that was the “hey your season is over now” moment. It was an absolute bomb to CF, and I still remember Cammy going up and just hanging over the wall. That was the one that did me in.

oh hey your right

The season died to me the night before anyway.

Oh, now the crying comment makes sense.

I hadn’t seen this one.

Pretty much, yes.

But guyz Morrow is more valuable in teh bullpen~!1!!1

I’m so upset I missed this game…if he’d actually gotten a no-hitter I may have just knifed myself.

Omerta - September 5, 2008 reply

I want to find every FO exec who might have thought Morrow would be better for the club in the bullpen,

show them a tape of today’s game, then shove that tape up their ass.

Armstrong and Lincoln would be a safe place to start.

I'm heading down to Safeco tomorrow and administering a cassette-tape enema to those two fuckers.

Fuck Wilson Betemit

It's okay, Robert.

It wasn't meant to be.

And yet I felt more satified with this game than any in recent memory. My heart was thumping hard, too. Sweating slightly.

My God! Did I just have sex without realizing it?

I'm really not mad that Brandon lost the no-hitter.

Not in the slightest, because Brandon did something far more important.

Hope for the future has been in short supply lately. Thanks, Brandon.

My wife asks me this all the time.

TheBishop - September 6, 2008 reply

I'm sure he's available

The Mariners are fun and exciting to watch

Dewey N - September 5, 2008 reply

*twice a week

I was going to say twice a year.

God I love this team

Dewey N - September 5, 2008 reply

:)

;)

Dewey N - September 5, 2008 reply

Morrow is the turtle shell!

Why the cliff?

He's decided not to jump after all.

Now I get it

But then why the turtle?

Sometimes it takes awhile to get where you're going, but if you're tough enough to survive the journey, it will all be worth it.

Well technically we don't know what was on the other side.

Just that its presumably less cliffy.

Analogy solved!

Dewey N - September 6, 2008 reply

Awwwwwwwwwww.

Maybe, just maybe, a smart GM will be hired

and convince Chuck there’s some hope next year.

Or lie and not blow up the team.

It's annoying, because we're so close to being somewhat relevant, and it wouldn't require hurting the future.

Im drunk now so takke avdantage Morrow.

Slica - September 5, 2008 reply

Lee Elia creeps over to Slica's place with a Morrow mask on

Good luck, my neihgborhood is dangerous.

I got robbed last weeked.

But I will take both scoops of his Raisin Brandno morrws

Slica - September 5, 2008 reply

Jeff must be writing some epic, 20,000 word post

Two Rs and Two Ls - September 5, 2008 reply

I read "epic,"

and for some reason, this is the first thing I could think of.

Let's say, hypothetically, that Adrian Beltre is traded this offseason.

Who do you think emerges as the frontrunner for everyday third baseman? Tui, maybe Lopez, someone else I’m missing? Morse? (bleh)

I refuse to think about this.

Beltre is probably my favorite M right now

So yes, it sucks. But it could become an important issue sooner than later.

Let's jump off that bridge when we come to it.

This is my favorite comment of the day.

yeah yeah fine fine

I will tumble down the side incline, thx

Annnnd rec'd

OlSalty - September 6, 2008 reply

The fall won't even be fun.

It's probably Tui's job unless someone cheap and better stumbles onto the Mariners ST complex

According to Foxsports.com

Yanks almost no-hit in loss to M’s Rookie Pitcher

Idiots

tootthekazoo - September 6, 2008 reply

Are you fucking kidding me?

They don’t even have a picture for Morrow. News flash, he’s been in the big leagues for AN ENTIRE SEASON.

appleshampoo - September 6, 2008 reply

He's no Joba.

kentroyals5 - September 6, 2008 reply

You're right, he was a shit-ton better than Joba was in his opener

OlSalty - September 6, 2008 reply

Not only has he been in the bigs for almost an entire season

he was one of the best relievers in the entire AL the first half of this season…

EnglishMariner - September 6, 2008 reply

They should keep the sihouette instead of a picture.

Just add some glowing red eyes, maybe they pulse a bit, PRESTO!!

dpseadv - September 6, 2008 reply

Damnit

Why oh why did i decide to not watch this game.

wadswerth - September 6, 2008 reply

Couldn't believe it when I woke up.

The first thing I do every morning is grab my phone, check mlb.com and then LL. I was excited when I woke up – I wanted to know how Morrow had done. When the page was loading I thought to myself how awesome it would be if Morrow went 5 IP and only gave up a few hits.

Then the page loaded. The Yankees had TWO hits?!?!? Morrow with the ‘W’?!?!? I opened the box score page, loaded the M’s section … and for the first time in months, I was excited to be a Mariner again.

Well done, Brandon. Don’t ever suck.

Fuck Wilson Betemit

Last thought upon sleeping, first thought upon waking.

11:43 AM, Seattle Times is reporting that Wilson Betemit was killed ...

by a man apparently being identified only as “Robert”.

Humongo - September 6, 2008 reply

One of these days I will actually go through with it....

I love that ther's a shortlist of ballplayers that LLers actively wish death upon

We need letters for all of them

I nominate JD Drew to be “Player B”

I'm surprised no one has actually put the full death list in writing yet

OlSalty - September 6, 2008 reply

Legal reasons

Jeff Sullivan - September 6, 2008 reply