Larry LaRue breaks the news that the best catcher in franchise history is opting out of his contract and going back to Japan. Sounds like the real deal, too - Zduriencik is holding a press conference in a couple of hours to discuss it.
Thanks for the years of service, Kenji. I'll miss the silly red glove and the powerpitch swing. Good luck in Japan.
Can't talk too much about the impact of all this now but this isn't a big surprise. Dave's been talking about the possibility of Johjima heading home for the past couple of months. This should free up some significant money for next year, but it comes at the cost of more Rob Johnson.
Matthew's Update: According to Shannon Drayer, no other confirmation yet, there is no buyout. The Mariners owe him no money.
Graham's Update: Section changed to great news. Party time!
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good riddance.
David89 - October 19, 2009
Enjoy Rob Johnson.
Eyebrows - October 19, 2009 via mobile
I will. Rob Johnson/Adam Moore is/are only gonna get better.
If the pitchers favor Johnson over Joh thats all I need to know. Who knows the language barrier might have been worse than we thought.
David89 - October 19, 2009
Adam Moore, yes.
But I don’t see Rob Johnson, even fully healthy, being as good as Kenji was when Joh was at his worst. And what good does it do for the pitchers to favor Johnson when he has trouble performing probably the most important aspect of being a catcher, which is, of course, catching the ball? Not that I put much behind a pitcher favoring a catcher anyway.
JLProck - October 19, 2009
My impression of a Rob Johnson visit to the mound:
Rob: Felix, what’s with shaking me off. I’m not calling the fastball.
Felix: I want the fastball, he does not respect me.
Rob: Felix, he’s sitting on a fastball, he’s expecting a fastball. Throw your change up.
Felix: He cannot hit my fastball, he is not man enough to hit my fastball.
Rob: You Latin prick, your fastball is not your cock. Throw the change up.
Felix: …
Rob: …
Wakamatsu: What the hell is going on out here?
Rob: Dammit Don! We’re just about to have a breakthrough here
Wakamatsu: What about?
Ump: Fellas, what the hell, lets move it along.
Wakamatsu: Just a second ump, we’re might be having a breakthrough
Felix: (Looking confused and scared)So you’re saying my masculinity isn’t tied to my fastball?
Wakamatsu: Right on Rob, good job. (heads back to the dugout)
Ump: Holy shit, live long enough you really do see everything. PLAY BALL!
Kermit. - October 19, 2009
There are 200 posts in this thread (201 now!)
How does this not have an equivalent number of recs?
James F'n X - October 19, 2009
It paints Rob Johnson in too good a light.
Eyeball Kid - October 19, 2009
The Latin stereotype might have been too much
The whole “he’s good with pitchers” line every time anyone associated with the team talks about Johnson is killing me. They trust him? He has a dominant personality they automatically follow? They like his pitch sequencing better? WHAT DOES IT MEAN!
Kermit. - October 19, 2009
I hate Rob Johnson even more now that you made him sound like Crash Davis.
And not because I hated Crash Davis, but because I like Crash and I refuse to have Rob Johnson seem anything like him.
JLProck - October 20, 2009
That has to be the reason.
This is brilliant!
Sinking Away - October 19, 2009
I'm glad Rob was able to convince him his masculinity was actually tied to his 'death change.'
JamMasterJesus - October 21, 2009
I hope you're joking.
w00tah - October 19, 2009
I for one love passed balls and "wild pitches"
BrianL - October 19, 2009
I prefer to have poor defense combined with below average hitting at the catcher position.
Craig Powers - October 19, 2009
The fuck?
Bearskin Rugburn - October 19, 2009
Is there a negative rec button?
I’d like to do that right now.
JLProck - October 19, 2009
Flag them.
Fin - October 19, 2009
Isn't that more for rule infractions?
I just want a way to tell David89 that his opinion sucks donkey balls. Maybe I’ll just say “Hey David89! Your opinion sucks donkey balls!”
JLProck - October 19, 2009
I would not be pleased if you did that.
You can certainly express disagreement in a more civil manner than that.
Matthew - October 19, 2009
While Kenji's contract was horrible, he was the best Major League-ready catcher the team had.
I would still take Kenji at $8 million over any more Rob Johnson. I’m happy that Kenji opted out, though. Hopefully Jack finds someone to unseat Johnson.
JLProck - October 19, 2009
More Rob Johnson :(
But also more Adam Moore :) (?)
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
Would have preffered Kenji and Moore catching than Rob Johnson.
w00tah - October 19, 2009
I'll take Moore and Johnson and the 8 million in payroll space
Rudy4three - October 19, 2009
Well, good luck to the FO in using the $ to compensate
for the whole more Rob thing.
stupidquestions - October 19, 2009
I always liked Kenji, and I hate seeing him go because it seems like he was often ufairly treated.
at the same time any any event that puts more money in Zduriencik’s hands is a net positive. So, I;m going to shed one tear for Joh and meanwhile dream of Jack declining Wilson’s option and buying a nice shortstop for us.
Bearskin Rugburn - October 19, 2009
This sucks.
I’ll miss Kenji. Was he really the best catcher in franchise? I’m questioning your statement, I just have not spent any time going through the numbers.
Also my dog loved him. Occasionally, when he was up to bat she would get right up to the television.
InSpokane - October 19, 2009
His first two years
are the best two hitting years from a Mariners catcher ever. Yes, that is as sad as it sounds
Trenchtown - October 19, 2009
You can probably put the money to better use.
Take this as a blessing. There’s gotta be a guy you can pluck off the pile who’ll give you more bang for your buck than Kenji, right?
future - October 19, 2009
Oh my God Oh my God
On the one hand, AWESOME. On the other hand, awww. I liked Joh, and I always got the feeling he never really “fit”. I hope he finds success, or happiness (either / or) back in Japan.
royalcurve - October 19, 2009
Jeff Clement!!
EnglishMariner - October 19, 2009 via mobile
Mean!
royalcurve - October 19, 2009
I have bad news.
BrianL - October 19, 2009
Clement hit .224 after the trade
Perhaps the M’s sold high
Trenchtown - October 19, 2009
Clement hit like a crazy man for two weeks, hurt himself, and tried to play through it
Graham MacAree - October 19, 2009
And rec'd my good man.
I’m glad Joh’s gone…wont even shed croc tears for him. Wish he hadn’t sucked for a year and a half, but thems the breaks.
Omerta - October 19, 2009
You mean Matt Clement?
;-)
PositivePaul - October 19, 2009
Jemaine Clement!
Phil Hatzenbuehler - October 19, 2009
Money!
Robert - October 19, 2009
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Poochie - October 19, 2009
This is a Improvment for the Ms
Fell free to point out anything wrong here but the average market value is about 1win/4Million dollars. Kenji leaving us saves us 8 million and I doubt the difference between 300 Kenji ABs/300 Johnson ABs and just 600 Johnson ABs is to the order of two wins.
Provided that this allows Z to go and make a move elsewhere. Kenji leaving is great for the Ms.
IceStormV1 - October 19, 2009
I think it's possible to be happy that the Ms just got a lot of money back
but also feel bad for Kenji over the way he was treated here the season or so.
BrianL - October 19, 2009
last season*
BrianL - October 19, 2009
True, Yes
I just find the excitement of Z and the front office having an extra 8 Million this off season to be bigger then the sadness of the circumstances around Kenji’s departure.
IceStormV1 - October 19, 2009
Kenji leaving certainly does not save us $8M
Graham MacAree - October 19, 2009
Unless it does.
Matthew - October 19, 2009
Apparently it does
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
Whoopsadoodle!
Ok time to party
Graham MacAree - October 19, 2009
!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdNT6uRAwxY
Robert - October 19, 2009
More quotes in the official release
here
msb - October 19, 2009
But if he had stayed, he would have gotten it all!
Poochie - October 19, 2009
My approval of this event will be entirely centered around how much money we still owe Mr. Johjima.
katal - October 19, 2009
Yeah wish we knew what the buyout was
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
Drayer says no buyot
arbeck77 - October 19, 2009
So,we owe him nothing?
BrianL - October 19, 2009
I don't have inside knowledge
But Drayer is reporting exactly that.
arbeck77 - October 19, 2009
Okay so I feel a little bad about how much I love this now
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
Bruce Hines also gone
per Baker
stupidquestions - October 19, 2009
The fact he hadn't worked as a base coach in years really showed, unfortunately.
and the infielders didn’t really show a lot of signs of being coached up …
msb - October 19, 2009
Oh, and it was actually Larry Stone :)
msb - October 19, 2009
whoops, sorry about that
stupidquestions - October 19, 2009
It's tricky when he signs in under Baker's byline photo
msb - October 19, 2009
Dan Wilson would like a word on that "Best catcher in franchise history" thing
lemonverbena - October 19, 2009 via mobile
Dan Wilson might like a word but he'd be hilariously wrong
Graham MacAree - October 19, 2009
Well
The best catcher in Mariners franchise history ranks somewhere in between “the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson’s life” and “the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield’s life.”
Trenchtown - October 19, 2009
Nice
Steve Yeager ranks towards the James Garfield end of the continuum
lemonverbena - October 19, 2009
I don't care what the numbers say...
Scrapiron Stinson will always be the best in my book.
Until Adam Moore’s career takes shape.
PositivePaul - October 19, 2009
Come now
Garfield made it thought the Civil War without stopping a bullet.
It’s more a “tallest dwarf” sort of category.
Colm - October 19, 2009
Dan Wilson would also like eleventy bazillion dollars and a sparkly pony
“most fan beloved” doesn’t mean “best”.
pdb - October 19, 2009
You mean .691 career OPS hitter Dan Wilson?
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
But longevity!
Robert - October 19, 2009
Yes, that one
lemonverbena - October 19, 2009
I'm going to agree.
Kenji may have the better offensive numbers, but Dan was stellar behind the plate. He was able to hide his offensive woes with the lineups we had and was able to focus on his catching.
I know we like objective numbers around here, but I will side with Dan being the better catcher based on his defense and game calling. Kenji had his issues the first season he caught, but he did improve to become the better all-around catcher. However, he didn’t have enough years to take the overall title. Longevity does count.
Wilder. - October 19, 2009
Being bad for a very long time is a pretty poor argument for being the best at something
Graham MacAree - October 19, 2009
To be fair we have no way of measuring a catcher's defensive contribution.
Kenji has Dan beat in OPS by about 30 points, but Dan had his .752, .774, and .749 OPS 3-year stretch as well. I’m not sure how we would park adjust for numbers put up way back in the mid-90s…I realize the Kingdome was an easier place to hit in without a doubt, but it’s not like Dan wasn’t decent for a catcher in his prime. Plus, we know that a player can make up more the .010 difference in wOBA Kenji and Dan had in their careers. .314 for Kenji, .304 for Dan.
Honestly, I probably side with Kenji here too. Just playing Devil’s advocate. We have no real way of knowing if Dan’s defense did or did not make up for the offensive gap, but it’s not as much of a long shot as you make it seem.
And once again, for the record, I’d take Kenji too. There are still two not totally invalid sides to this argument.
BrettJMiller - October 19, 2009
Make up for the difference in wOBA with defensive contributions, I mean. I should really proof read.
BrettJMiller - October 19, 2009
It's a ridiculously long shot
Dan Wilson had a comparable but worse peak if you don’t bother compensating for park, and if you do it’s not close. He then proceeded to really suck for quite a long time.
I have a way of knowing if Dan’s defence made up for the offensive gap because there’s frankly no way in hell that it did if one doesn’t take Johjima as being Victor Martinez behind the plate. You make think there’s an argument here, but that doesn’t stop you being wrong.
Graham MacAree - October 20, 2009
I love Johjima.
actually, I do.
He came over as a veteran catcher, with metal plates in his catching hand, and a good 20-years of ingrained habits … setting up, to moving around the plate, interacting with pitchers and umpires in a certain way … and he tried to change, he tried to do everything he was asked to do. He worked with Roger Hansen (and every other ex-catcher in the organization), he worked on his English, he wrote voluminous notes about the hitters and pitchers around the league, he apparently reined in his natural aggressiveness behind the plate, and for a while he actually hit, as well ..
At the start of this year he made the mistake of caving to Japanese pressure to play in the WBC, which put him behind with the new staff & pitchers, and then when he was back, Rob had the opportunity to play once a week, and spend the rest of the time talking to every pitcher for hours, making them all feel very special, and when Joh got hurt, and Rob took over, there was the perception in place that Rob had the magic CERA touch.
Wonder what would have happened had he come over as a younger man, had he allowed his emotions to show more in the beginning the way they sometimes did towards the end (reportedly he was a very demonstrative catcher in Japan), had his command of the language been greater from the start ….
msb - October 19, 2009
When Joh first came over, I loved his aggressiveness behind the plate.
I wish that had stayed.
Matthew - October 19, 2009
Same here.
Smegmalicious - October 19, 2009
Holy mcgoodness is it sad that Kenji is the best catcher we've had in our 32 year history
Robert - October 19, 2009
Thank you so much for doing this Kenji
He could’ve just stayed around in a backup role and raked in the dough. But instead we get out of a truly awful contract for nothing.
I hope he enjoys his last few years in Japan,
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
Second time we've been saved by this
Robert - October 19, 2009
The Sasaki thing wasn't that good for the team
Graham MacAree - October 19, 2009
Fortunately, Joh didn't wait until the verrrrrrrrry last minute.
msb - October 19, 2009
Yeah
Graham MacAree - October 19, 2009
No shit it wasn't good
I was devastated
Robert - October 19, 2009
You've been more devastated
Graham MacAree - October 19, 2009
My life is a series to corresponding devastation but this was still when I was young and naive and so this hurt more
Robert - October 19, 2009
Ah, I love Kenji. :(
But hooray! This is pretty awesome for the Mariners. And I’m happy for him that he can go home and still make a living while being more comfortable and close to his family.
Teej - October 19, 2009
I always liked Kenji
And now I know why!
Seriously though, best of luck to him. And we all truly do appreciate his first few seasons. On a sidenote, we really need to find a decent damned catcher one of these days and keep him around for a while. But this is really, really good for the organization.
cwel87 - October 19, 2009
Good catchers are really really hard to find.
Graham MacAree - October 19, 2009
Fair point
Just sucks the M’s have been around for 32 years and haven’t had any sustained success from that position for, well, the entirety of their existence.
cwel87 - October 19, 2009
Yup.
Contrary to popular belief, Mauers aren’t found every draft.
msb - October 19, 2009
But we got Steve Baron!
Paseman - October 19, 2009
Aw fuck yeah Matt Holliday time
Poochie - October 19, 2009
Thanks for the service, Kenji. I hope you find the happiness you are looking for.
Also, $8M WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
abender20 - October 19, 2009
Beltre?
A man can dream, no?
cwel87 - October 19, 2009
Felix!
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
Well partially
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
That's what Batista's and Washburn's contracts coming off the books is for!
And maybe a wee bit of Bedard’s $8M too.
cwel87 - October 19, 2009
We better not use it to sign that no good underachieving Beltre
Poochie - October 19, 2009
Beltre has been worth his contract
Robert - October 19, 2009
Oh wow you can parrot Dave Cameron I'm really impressed
Poochie - October 19, 2009
Beltre!
abender20 - October 19, 2009
Willmore - October 19, 2009
Is Jason Varitek available?
I think it would cost about…oooh….$8 million to sign him.
short - October 19, 2009
Yes, because he's been fantastic as of late
cwel87 - October 19, 2009
Bill Bavasi does not run the team anymore
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
You mean the Jason Varitek that can barely walk?
Much less actually perform the duties of a professional baseball player? No thanks.
pdb - October 19, 2009
But ... Captain!!!
msb - October 19, 2009
Leadership, grit, World Series rings
It really is frightening how fast Bavasi would have written a blank check to Varitek.
cwel87 - October 19, 2009
Oh Captain, My Captain ... eh ... it didn't work out that great for the Dead Poet's Society kid.
Willmore - October 19, 2009
Pretty sure Johnny Bench is available as well.
Craig Powers - October 19, 2009
This is good for the team
That said, I will definitely miss having Kenji around. Like you said, Graham, I will miss the wacky red glove and the power-swing and corresponding bat flip when it connected. Godspeed, Mr. Johjima. I will forever remain curious as to why you bucked convention and drove around in a blacked-out and lifted Hummer H2
tootthekazoo - October 19, 2009
Really? He drove a Hummer like that?
JLProck - October 19, 2009
Happy trails amigo.
waldo rojas - October 19, 2009
Zduriencik on 710 at 11:40
msb - October 19, 2009
Wasn't Kenjis' extension sort of an "off-the-books" expense?
That didn’t count against the alotted payroll as it was dictated by Yamauchi. If so, does this really free up money for GMZ to spend?
waldo rojas - October 19, 2009
Player salary is player salary?
abender20 - October 19, 2009
I thought this was a "special expense" that didn't count against payroll, but am happy to see that I was mistaken.
waldo rojas - October 19, 2009
No, it was part of salary
Graham MacAree - October 19, 2009
I'll choose to view this as neither a net gain nor a net loss
and simply sit back and trust that Z knows what to do. And I like being able to talk about faith in the GM with sincerity.
Torrid - October 19, 2009
If the motivation for benching Kenji was to force him to opt out then I feel pretty bad for him
Dewey N - October 19, 2009
Is it really a benching when the playing time is split down the middle?
msb - October 19, 2009
It is when it's split with Rob Johnson
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
I'm starting to think it may have played a part in it
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
That's just punishing Kenji for the previous FO's mistake
and it seems like a shitty way to treat a player
Dewey N - October 19, 2009
Yeah I'm not really crazy about that tactic either if it's true
It may not have been the reason at all, but it does provide a motive for the way he was handled this year that isn’t “Rob Johnson calls a great game” or “All the pitchers have good chemistry with Rob”. When it comes down to it I don’t think Rob ever really clearly earned the playing time he got so it’s a little suspicious that they stuck with him so much.
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
Maybe that's why Ichiro was so happy this year.
Robert - October 19, 2009
This org values character, it's not uncommon for pitchers to choose their catchers, and he was shitty last year, so I doubt it.
Poochie - October 19, 2009
Old article by Brad Lefton
here
msb - October 19, 2009
Huh.
one from ’07 with JJ lavishing praise on him,
msb - October 19, 2009
:(
Still, the extra money’s nice.
Eyeball Kid - October 19, 2009
This is really great news
I liked kenji, but that contract was just stupid. Hooray for good news
wadswerth - October 19, 2009
I wonder what the ownership and Japanese media have to say.
Also the Japanese online comments.
w00tah - October 19, 2009
How lucky
PaulThomas - October 19, 2009
This makes me sad
What an honorable thing to do. I’ll always respect you, Mr. Johjima
Corco - October 19, 2009
Good Luck Kenji, May you find what you are looking for
Trenchtown - October 19, 2009
Why isn't Yuni clinging to the neck?
abender20 - October 19, 2009
I don't get this but it's amazing.
Eyeball Kid - October 19, 2009
Kenji is sailing back to Japan
And if you receive a 10 million dollar buy-out (pure speculation on the amount,) and you want to buy a guitar shaped motor boat, who is going to stop you?
Trenchtown - October 19, 2009
The Coast Guard?
abender20 - October 19, 2009
Joh should have a fishing pole, too.
he loves fishing.
msb - October 19, 2009
I love Johjima!
Fin - October 19, 2009
I'm amazed it took this long.
Eyeball Kid - October 19, 2009
I'm shocked this didn't come sooner.
FWombat - October 19, 2009
Well,
guess what.
abender20 - October 19, 2009
FUCKING CHRIST
Robert - October 19, 2009
Perhaps the best part of this is that we never have to hear that stupid meme again
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
If I was Jeff I would just post Family Guy Youtube compilations
Robert - October 19, 2009
At least he did it correctly
Poochie - October 19, 2009
So when will we announce the signing of Gregg Zaun?
Corco - October 19, 2009
I don't know but,
Barring any ridiculous circumstances I would approve of this
Trenchtown - October 19, 2009
Great
abender20 - October 19, 2009
He's the perfect stopgap fit to be cheap and hold the position down better than Rob Johnson until Moore is ready
Corco - October 19, 2009
So Dave probably has some redrafting to do on his offseason plan post
stupidquestions - October 19, 2009
I would guess that Dave probably had a good idea that this might happen as he's hinted to it for a while
Robert - October 19, 2009
But could he (or anyone) have predicted that we would save all the money?
stupidquestions - October 19, 2009
Living up to your username?
Fin - October 19, 2009
Yeah, sorry; I had just remembered this being talked about before as a buyout...my mistake
stupidquestions - October 19, 2009
Be nice
Graham MacAree - October 19, 2009
I am sorry.
That probably was mean, I just felt set up for that.
Fin - October 19, 2009
It's all good...I basically gave you a Silva fastball
stupidquestions - October 19, 2009
Speaking of Silva, Opt out?
InSpokane - October 19, 2009
That is hoping for too much.
Fin - October 19, 2009
Living up to your profile pic?
/jk
redwolf75 - October 19, 2009
I always saw it referenced to as an "opt-out clause," so sure.
Teej - October 19, 2009
An odd contract from the get-go
Team gives player contract extension worth >$20M(?) for no apparent reason; player opts-out of additional $16M in income for limited reason.
I’m guessing money is getting moved under the table (or something else of value).
BFR - October 19, 2009
They must be Illuminati
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
I wrote the post assuming Kenji would do this
I’ve been waiting for the announcement in order to hit publish.
davidcameron - October 19, 2009
My misunderstanding...I apologize
stupidquestions - October 19, 2009
I hadn't thought about it
but his son is of an age to be starting school, which would mean the family stays back in Japan.
msb - October 19, 2009
Now that you have mentioned it, I'd like to think that this is the reason he's leaving
Instead of him having the realization that he’s playing backup to Rob Johnson.
IceStormV1 - October 19, 2009
Shannon has more
here
msb - October 19, 2009
I can't wait for Pedro Calderon to weigh in on this situation.
Kermit. - October 19, 2009
I think it may be becoming a dead meme to even reference him.
JY - October 19, 2009
The cool people reference him by his real name
Poochie - October 19, 2009
JI?
seattlebruin - October 19, 2009
Yeeeeeeeesss?
JI - October 19, 2009
When are you going to weigh in on the Kenji situation on your Mariners blog?
seattlebruin - October 19, 2009
I think you have mistaken him/her for someone else
Poochie - October 19, 2009
I'm not wearing a What Would Poochie Do t-shirt.
Pedro Calderon sounds cool, I hear Latino sounding names are going to be the big thing next year anyway
Kermit. - October 19, 2009
I'd rather hear from Pedro Cerrano
I always feel in good hands with his suggestions
seattlecougar - October 19, 2009
Keep bats warm.
Two Rs and Two Ls - October 19, 2009
We should be able to give out assist recs on this site
seattlebruin - October 19, 2009
So Kenji basically played at a 2-win pace this year.
Which is not counting his defense, which seemed to be above average. That sounds like a pretty good catcher to me. I hope he’s appreciated more by fans and coaches wherever he ends up.
Manzanillos Cup - October 19, 2009
For all those who think there isn't money changing hands in this deal here:
Come on. Be realistic. Kenji’s definitely getting a little something off-the-books from Yamauichi or persons close to that part of the ownership. I don’t have to have any inside knowledge to know that this is far and away the most likely scenario, and that it’s furthermore consistent with Jack Z. claiming there was no buyout. (If it were to ever come to light it would merely be characterized as something else, a “gift” perhaps.)
esoteric - October 19, 2009
And if I have to watch a full season of Rob Johnson I swear to God I'll open a vein.
esoteric - October 19, 2009
It's possible
But he’s also going to get paid a lot to play in Japan and he’ll get to start and be close to his family, so it’s not that unreasonable that that would be enough motivation.
OlSalty - October 19, 2009
Even so
Would still seem more plausible than not that someone’s agreed to make up the difference.
BFR - October 19, 2009
Evidence?
Poochie - October 19, 2009
While that may be true, the Ms are still gonna come away with extra money
and since our pitching staff and coaching staff have decided that were gonna be riding the ‘Rob Johnson, Professional catcher’ Train next year. We might as well put Joh’s Salary into improving the other holes we have like DH/SS/3B/ect.
IceStormV1 - October 19, 2009
How do you know?
I don’t have to have any inside knowledge to know that this is far and away the most likely scenario
If you don’t have knowledge, by definition you don’t know.
pdb - October 19, 2009
Pardon my imprecision, but colloquially speaking my point was perfectly clear.
Let’s not be nitpicky here, although yes technically you got me.
esoteric - October 19, 2009
I would disagree that there is enough information available to you to make such a conclusion reasonable.
It is fine to say that you think that it is the most likely scenario, but what pdb pointed out is far from nitpicky.
Aaron Campeau - October 19, 2009
You admitted you had no basis for knowing what you then said you "definitely" knew
I don’t think that’s being nitpicky. I think it’s pointing out how silly it is to make statements like that. Especially on a site that prides itself on its analytic/evidence-based slant.
pdb - October 19, 2009
Awww..
I just hope that Rob’s surgeries make it so he has to be released. I can imagine that he’s really happy about this, that smug grin on his fat face…god I hate him…
Coach Owens - October 19, 2009
This is unbelievable.
Finally he has more time to camp out under that bus.
CapSea - October 19, 2009
Apparently
last friday they were running articles in Japan about the likelihood of Joh’s return
msb - October 19, 2009
Are there any good stopgap catchers available right now?
.Taylor - October 19, 2009
Jamie Burke!
EnglishMariner - October 19, 2009
We re-signed Guillermo Quiroz.
JY - October 19, 2009
Rob Johnson
CapSea - October 19, 2009
I'm officially on the Gregg Zaun bandwagon
Corco - October 19, 2009
Wowzers!!
I’m going to miss him.
ThundaPC - October 19, 2009 via mobile
The return of Pat Borders.
msb - October 19, 2009
We must have traded for him about 30 times
CKel - October 20, 2009
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