Since this doesn't involve our team or division, let's be fairly brief:
The winner: Mark Teahen
The losers: Josh Fields (the other one), Chris Getz
Overview: Kenny Williams was so disappointed with Fields and Getz being unable to live up to their minor league numbers that he couldn't just non-tender the pair. Instead he paid $5 million to banish them to Kansas City. Harsh.
Moral: Do not disappoint Kenny Williams.
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White Sox are now on the market for a Second Baseman
Hmmm….
Ballard Erik - November 5, 2009
This was my first thought as well.
Goose - November 5, 2009
The one remaining question is
Can Kenny Williams continue to be Kenny Williams long enough for a Dave-esque trade proposal to be accepted?
cwel87 - November 5, 2009
Fangraphs commentators know the answer!
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The Typical Idiot Fan - November 5, 2009
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Goose - November 5, 2009
What I appreciate most is that there are actually people that come to a blog about baseball analysis
and then complain not about the content of the piece, but on the fact that someone is analyzing baseball. I have that complain as well when I come to Lookout Landing. I hate that they talk about the Mariners here, and would much prefer they talk about Zojirushi Rice Cookers.
CapSea - November 5, 2009
Rice cookers are useful appliances, but, in my opinion, overrated.
First of all, let me concede this right away, they make a really good pot of rice. That they are able to monitor the internal cooking temperature is a huge advantage and even mediocre cookers can churn out solid rice. And if you are someone that eats a lot of rice, then by all means, it’s a good investment.
But for the average American, I would say, nay, you do not need yet another space taker in your kitchen! And no, this does not mean that you have to make rice the traditional way in a pot with all the stirring and then the clumpiness and the hard to clean. No, unlearned masses, there is a better way. You can, are you ready for this?, bake your rice. No, really. I’m serious, bak— will you let me explain? SHUT UP! Thanks. Now then, simply get an oven safe dish and throw in the following ingredients. 1.5C rice, 2.5C water with 1T of butter melted into it and 1t of salt added. Cover it medium-tight with aluminum foil and put into a 350 oven for 35 minutes if you are cooking white rice and 60 minutes if you are cooking brown rice. The rice will emerge cooked, tender and fluffy! And clean up’s a breeze.
Now then, if you insist on a rice cooker and one from Zojirushi, the first consideration is size. How much rice do you want to cook? Standard sizes are 3 or 5.5/10 cup units. Be aware that even three cups of rice is a lot. You are going to want a cooker with a non-stick interior of course and look for exterior materials that will stay cool to the touch. Wouldn’t want to burn yourself! Aside from that, note the stay warm options and the different rice cooking settings available. In the 3 cup size, I like the NS-LAC05 model because it comes with a retractable cord that helps reduce counter clutter. In the 5.5/10 cup size, go with the NP-HTC 10/18, it has three settings for white rice alone, plus brown and sushi rices. It also has an extended keep warm option.
Matthew - November 5, 2009
While I appreciate the effort, there is a noticable lack of mention of both Fuzzy Logic and/or Induction Heating (IH) Rice Cookers which are clearly superior to the model you discuss within your post.
If you are going to discuss basic rice cookers when there are more advanced rice cookers available, then this might not be the place for you.
CapSea - November 5, 2009
The NS-LAC05 is a fuzzy logic cooker
and the NP-HTC10 is an IH cooker.
Do your research!
Matthew - November 5, 2009
Well shit.
I always get those models confused with the NHS-06 and the SC-1201S. the NP-HTC 18 is a sick model. I’d suck its GABA Brown setting dry if given the opportunity.
CapSea - November 5, 2009
Feh.
There’s nothing wrong with cooking rice in a good old plain pot. You can really tell how the rice is doing in a pot. Rice cookers tell you nothing, they just confuse the issue with fancy gadgets.
msb - November 5, 2009
This is untrue.
Rice cookers turn off automatically when the water has completely dissolved, due to the temperature rising from lack of water. This allows you to:
a) Do other things without having to watch the rice
b) Make sure the rice is not over or underboiled because the machines know when to turn off.
Rice that is fully cooked is less likely to stick the pans, the keep warm features ensure that the rice does not cool over time (and can be kept for as long as 48 hours), and the added settings allow you to cook multiple types of rice without prior knowledge.
In addition, fuzzy logic and IH rice cookers use heating systems that allow for internal adjustments based on temperature, so that neither external nor internal temperatures can prevent each grain of rice from coming out perfect. Cooking the rice in a plain old pot will get some of the job done, but those methods are prone to mistakes, require oversight, and there are a variety of external factors that are not accounted for. A good rice cooker is simply a better decision, provided you have the money to spend on the device.
CapSea - November 5, 2009
While you bring up a good counter,
msb has a point, especially when relating to non-medium length grains. Your risotto rices and especially your shorter grains like amaranth or psuedograins like quinoa, couscous and the like, benefit tremendously from simple pot cooking where the cooking comes fast. And really, if you haven’t tried them, you should. They’re easy to cook and offer a great deal of variety to the palate.
Matthew - November 6, 2009
Well yes,
but pseudograins are not rice, and are not really designed for a rice cooker anyway. Risotto is questionable. But considering most advanced rice cookers can also create other style dishes, like congee, as well as many soups (and even bread), they certainly have their uses. I would also like to point out that quinoa has an awful flavor, though I do agree that other grains like couscous can be quite delicious.
CapSea - November 6, 2009
Not to go too far off-topic here,
but I think that some of us here are way too harsh on fangraphs commentators. There are plenty of intelligent posters on the website. The only problem with some of them, is that they refuse to accept a difference in opinion and say they are at a point of diffidence. Those making a series of ad-hominen attacks have largely dissapeared and regardless of that, they should be ignored.
Also, Jayson Nix was a 1 WAR player at 2b and SS. If he was limited to second and given a regular role, I could see him being a league average, 2 WAR player, in his career prime for cheap. Basically a slightly worse Lopez with no contract and no additional costs for acquisition.
tdot mariner fan - November 5, 2009
I've seen some doofus named Teej make a good point now and again.
abender20 - November 5, 2009
I don't care about all fangraphs commenters.
I care about the ones that make stupid comments.
CapSea - November 5, 2009
Whew, good thing no one went too far off topic.
It could have ruined the spirit of this post.
CapSea - November 5, 2009
Wait are you saying that not playing shortstop would make a player more valuable?
Graham MacAree - November 6, 2009
Depends how bad of a defender he is there versus 2b
The difference is probably exagerated by SSS concerns for UZR this year. I was mainly thinking that he could be an above average defender at 2b, my mistake if the comment is misleading.
tdot mariner fan - November 6, 2009
Goodness.
Why would you go to a stat website, and complain about the writers being stat-minded?
msb - November 5, 2009
Its the nature of the site
Unlike a team specific site, I don’t think there are many people who would consider themselves “FanGraphs readers”. They read sites that link to FanGraphs all the time, they look up stats on the site, they may even have the blog in their RSS feed, but they’re Mariner fans or Tiger fans or Yankee fans just looking for information (in general).
I’d bet that most of the dumb comments come from people who never read the site. They follow a link from Twinkie Town or Bless You Boys or Royals Review or whatever, who links to some post that explains why their team just did something dumb, and they come in and huff and puff because they don’t think the move was bad at all and their offended that their team is getting bad national coverage.
They aren’t FanGraphs readers, but because the site doesn’t have comment registration, they can do the equivalent of a drive-by, leave their pearl of wisdom, and go back to where they came from.
It’s wonderful.
davidcameron - November 5, 2009
I've learned many things from FanGraphs comments.
Matthew - November 5, 2009
The most important being that you are one biased motherfucker.
JLProck - November 5, 2009
No, that I already knew. We're all biased.
Most of the lessons revolve around learning to not care what most people think.
It’s honestly a very enlightening experience and one that I still struggle with.
Matthew - November 5, 2009
I'm not even an author there and I struggle with walking away from the vitriol.
I’ve done my best to stay away lately.
Teej - November 5, 2009
(from the comments, not from the site, of course)
Teej - November 5, 2009
That you struggle with it at all is a positive quality,
Not caring can make you bitter and cause you to overlook positive comments in favor of attacking negative ones.
CapSea - November 6, 2009
I'm pretty sure it's caring that makes someone bitter.
Not caring frees up a lot of time and lowers stress levels.
Matthew - November 6, 2009
So does pot.
CapSea - November 6, 2009
I was surprised to see MGL come and make comments.
He’s right. His posts slam the door on discussion. It’s probably because most of those morons have no idea what he’s talking about.
The Typical Idiot Fan - November 6, 2009
I think we should trade Lopez for John Danks
Poochie - November 5, 2009
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seattlebruin - November 5, 2009
Sí
abender20 - November 5, 2009
I'm not sure I understand the point of this trade from Chicago's side.
Goose - November 5, 2009
Same with the Kotsay add
Jeff Sullivan - November 5, 2009
This trade is exceptionally easy to understand.
Kenny Williams.
abender20 - November 5, 2009
It makes perfect sense under the premise that KW hates Josh Fields and Chris Getz
Graham MacAree - November 5, 2009
I get it
They are losers because they have to go to Kansas City.
I guess that is a pretty bad punishment.
Fin - November 5, 2009
Is this the part where we trade Jose Lopez?
And get Alex Gordon and he hits 40 HRs?
Slurvey - November 5, 2009
Hmmm
“Moral: Do not disappoint Kenny Williams.”
Nick Swisher and his new shiny ring disagrees.
RollingWave - November 9, 2009
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