Talking about the best and worst individual pitches on the team the other day got me thinking about a lot of things, most notably Brandon Morrow's fastball. The 15.5% swinging strike rate I pulled from Josh Kalk's online tool was almost unthinkably high for a heater, and I could hardly believe my eyes. So, ever the skeptic, I went searching for confirmation. I went to Matthew for help from his PITCHf/x database, and, well, bad news.
Kalk FA SwS%: 15.5%
PITCHf/x FA SwS%: 11.7%
Josh Kalk's online tool is doing something wonky, excluding some information while seemingly just making up other information, so I'd take anything you pull out of there with a grain of salt. There's something funny going on.
That said, 11.7% is still magnificently high for a fastball. Only...
Morrow FA SwS%, bullpen: 14.7%
Morrow FA SwS%, starter: 7.6%
Yikes. Morrow's fastball didn't lose much in the way of velocity upon moving to the rotation, but over a sample size of 317 pitches, it became more hittable. We'd expect that to some degree, of course, but his swinging strike rate on the fastball fell by nearly half. That's a huge, huge drop, one you wish you could write off as a sample size issue if it weren't for those damn swinging strike rates stabilizing so fast.
But now I have good news. Even though 7.6% doesn't seem that hot - especially when compared to 14.7% - the league average swinging strike rate on fastballs thrown by starters last year (minimum 500 fastballs) was 5.3%, with a standard deviation of 1.7%. So Morrow still comes out looking a good deal better than average. Even more encouraging? The list of starters between 7-8%:
Ben Sheets
Aaron Harang
Vicente Padilla
Jon Lester
Cliff Lee
Josh Beckett
Jake Peavy
Roy Oswalt
Chris Young
Seth McClung
CC Sabathia
Erik Bedard
Dustin McGowan
David Purcey
Edinson Volquez
Tim Lincecum
Daisuke Matsuzaka
Gil Meche
John Maine
Javier Vazquez
Of the 168 starters last year who threw at least 500 fastballs, 20 used them to register between 7-8% swinging strikes, and the average tRA of this group was 4.14. Sabathia, Lee, and Lincecum were the three best starters in all of baseball. So even with the significant drop in SwS%, Morrow's fastball still found itself in some reasonable company.
While we don't know how Brandon Morrow is going to fare as a starting pitcher in the long run, what we do know is that his fastball gives him a pretty good head start on the road to success. Going forward, we'll see if he finds a balance somewhere in between 7.6% and 14.7%, but even if he doesn't, and he stays around where he was last September, that's still an above-average pitch at the heart of his repertoire, and that isn't to be underestimated. ~60-70% of all pitches thrown by starters are fastballs, and having such an explosive heater gives Morrow a fairly big advantage.
Brandon Morrow has a lot of developing left to do, and I don't expect 2009 to be the season in which he hits his ceiling. But there are plenty of good reasons to be excited about his potential, and if he's ever able to combine his fastball with better location of his changeup and curve, you're gonna want to be wearing rubber underpants.
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I'm not too discouraged by the drop
Those were his first 5 starts ever, after all. It’s not really unreasonable to chalk up some of that drop to stamina problems.
OlSalty - March 3, 2009
There's definitely a lot of room for improvement on that 7.6%
If he can manage that, all the better. I just didn’t want to come across as too much of an optimist.
Jeff Sullivan - March 3, 2009
On some days, I think about Tim Lincecum and I find myself filled with regret
On other days, I see information like this and I think to myself that things didn’t turn out so bad. I’m happy with Morrow. 2009 is going to be a neat growing year for the Mariners. By 2010, when Brandon (and the other kids) have matured, it’s going to be a lot of fun.
Thanks for digging these numbers up.
katal - March 3, 2009
I'm curious....
How do other pitchers swinging fastballs (who’ve made the move from reliever to starter, Dempster, Joba, etc) change? I’d have to think this is pretty normal seeing how the opposition would go from seeing 20 fastballs a game to 60 fastball a game. You’d think swing and miss rates would decrease, no?
coasty141 - March 3, 2009
You'd definitely expect a decrease of some sort
but a drop of 48% seems unusually high. I don’t know, though. This is definitely something worth looking into.
Jeff Sullivan - March 3, 2009
Wouldn't the drop be at least partly attributable to context/situation
I would think this would be expected for a pitcher going from closer to starter or vice versa. If a guy comes in to slam the door on 10-20 pitches, he goes right after batters with max velocity, versus gearing himself up for the hoped-for 80 plus pitches as a starter. I know we’re talking about fastballs either way but the context almost seems to dictate such a differential.
lemonverbena - March 3, 2009
See above reply
Jeff Sullivan - March 3, 2009
Yep. Dude beat me to the point whilst I proofread.
lemonverbena - March 3, 2009
Being that I encourage proofreading I should have responded to you instead
Jeff Sullivan - March 3, 2009
I love statistical analysts
Think about how many hours you just spent so that you could conclude that Brandon Morrow has a good fastball.
We’re hilarious.
davidcameron - March 3, 2009
You don't know how often I've thought about stuff like this
Statistical analysis spends its time trying to be, what, 10% more correct than a good scout? 20? 30? People spend hours upon hours trying to arrive at a conclusion that a decent scout might be able to give in a word.
Jeff Sullivan - March 3, 2009
Reason #25345674563 why scouting and stats need each other
JI - March 3, 2009
On the other hand, scouts still like Yuni's defense.
Sometimes scouts are wrong.
Vatinius - March 4, 2009
How many hours _he_ spent?
Matthew - March 3, 2009
Data fairies speak when spoken to
Jeff Sullivan - March 3, 2009
He was speaking to my proxy.
Matthew - March 3, 2009
JI - March 3, 2009
That list made me happy until I read Gil Meche
Then I kinda got sick to my stomach
Ezzra - March 3, 2009
Vicente Padilla is on that list.
I saw that and attempted to pull clumps of hair out of my head.
Then I saw Lincecum and calmed down a little but. But it was only out of the corner of my eye.
cwel87 - March 3, 2009
Padilla and Meche both have some devastating stuff
They just aren’t complete pitchers. But they can certainly induce swinging strikes.
johnbai - March 4, 2009
I saw Padilla pitch against us once. His breaking pitches are insane.
.Taylor - March 4, 2009
Padilla doesn't quite have the same effect on me
It’s a product of the M’s playing against him instead of pitching for them
Ezzra - March 4, 2009
Regarding Kalk's discrepency with Matthew
Is it possible that Kalk’s system is including caught foul tips as swinging strikes and Matthew’s is not? Or is there no way in hell caught foul tips could make up a near 4% difference? Although, for some reason Kalk’s system doesn’t believe Roy Corcoran gave up a home run
Malcontent1 - March 3, 2009
Kalk is missing a lot of information for some guys
Honestly I just don’t know what’s going on. I’d love for him to offer an explanation.
Jeff Sullivan - March 4, 2009
Swining strikes are a pretty meaningless stat.
You should include other stats in your analysis, like how many quality starts he had and his WHIP and fielding percentage. Not to mention that he has 100% career line drive and contact rates. His .000 BABIP is unsustainable.
Vatinius - March 4, 2009
The question is...
Is there an odd percentage of swinging or looking strikes on his breaking pitch and how often is it thrown for a strike? If batters are showing a trend toward letting every off-speed pitch go by, then the reason his SwS% stats have changed is that batters are sitting on his gas. Without the off-speed stats to consider, its like choosing which one-legged guy you want to see win the butt-kicking contest.
Zeke003 - March 4, 2009
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