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No, I'm not dead. I've just been out of town, and now my Internet isn't working at home, so I don't have any idea when things are going to be back to normal. But then I don't think "back to normal" is what anybody wants right now on account of holy crap 7-2

  • 7-2! CoolStandings.com gives us a ~1-in-3 chance of making the playoffs, up from 1-in-9 at the beginning of the season. I'm not taking those numbers as gospel, and neither should you, but there's no arguing with the fact that we've put ourselves in a good position with this hot start. A three-game lead over second place means that, if you thought that we were three games worse than the Angels (or Rangers, or A's) in true talent at the start of the year, we're now essentially even. That's big. We knew it would be of vital importance for this team to play well out of the gate and take advantage of LAnaheim's injury problems, and that seems to be just what they're doing. Now we get to play the game where every time the Mariners lose we all look around at each other and wonder if that'll spell the end of the magic. Only 153 games left to go!

  • 1% playoff odds for the Nationals. And Lastings Milledge is off to the minors. I wonder how long it'll be before the flyball pitching staff/exclusively high fastballs thrown/seven outfielders tactic becomes a reality.

  • The Mariners have the lowest LD% as an offense and the third-lowest LD% as a pitching staff. With luck their inevitable regressions will cancel out, although it's worth noting that our offensive .296 BABIP is unlikely to go that much higher. Our .263 BABIP against is a testament to both the defense and the low rate of line drives allowed. That's going to come up - even the 2001 Mariners came in at .269 - but as long as Wakamatsu's good about keeping Griffey out of the outfield, it should remain pretty terrific. I'm looking for something in the .270s. Our outfield has an RZR of 1.000 and is +10 on plays out of zone, and that's pretty much all without Ichiro. This is like a team full of what Bill Bavasi thought Ramon Santiago was.

  • The Mariners, as an offense, have the highest contact rate in baseball, at 84.6%. They're the highest on pitches both in the zone and out of it. Now Ichiro's back. Russell Branyan must feel like he's lost.

  • We've also thrown the most fastballs as a pitching staff, leading the Dodgers 72.2% to 70.4%. Why? Just thank Carlos Silva, David Aardsma, Brandon Morrow, and Roy Corcoran, all of whom come in at north of 85%. We can only hope Felix walks around the clubhouse with blinders on.

  • Our team FIP is 3.75, but that comes with a home run rate that's going to regress. Supporting what we already assumed to be true: the pitching staff is somewhere around average to a little better than that, but the defense will take us into the upper tiers of run prevention. It can only be taken as encouraging that Griffey's only played three games in the field despite our missing Ichiro for the first week. I don't care about the official excuses - be they the turf or his back or whatever - Wakamatsu's found reasons to keep Griffey off the field in the early part of the season, which bodes well for the later.

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And it seems like Griff is fine with that.

Drayer

yes yes yes
It seems encouraging that he's accepting his new role

I was worried about that when they brought him in, but he seems to be settling in nicely.

This is so awesome.

Not having been around in the nineties, I really have no emotional attachment to Griffey and was worried he was going to put up a stink. To see those quotes from him makes this season look so much better. If he can be happy out there once every week or two or so to spell a guy, we’ll be in good shape.

The best part is where Ichiro confirms he is not human.
I think the best part was when Chuck Armstrong announced he's putting a stop to Day-O
Welcome back Jeff

I hope you’ve at least been able to watch these amazing games.

Jeff, i hope you got to see last night's game, even if you just caught the replay on MLB.TV..

That was such a perfect game last night

I think Jeff got to see the games

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/4/14/837669/4-14-open-game-thread#14170209
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/4/14/838167/april-15th-free-tix-still#14265861

Wrong Jeff in the second one

I was at the Opener, but missed last night due to no internet.

That was a stupid night to have an outage on
As yet unresolved!
The internet's a passing fad anyway, you're not missing much
Sounds like a good night to work late.
Really?

I was wondering why Matthew said he skipped the game on account of Jeff

Are you saying his crew cut isn't mandated by the armed services?
The sailors like what they like.
Great to have you posting again Jeff.

Regarding the team FIP, I think it is important to separate starter and reliever team FIP here, as the pen’s absurd walk rate is most certainly hurting that number.

If you want to look at the team’s pitching unit as a whole, that’s fine, but the team’s walk rate is even more unsustainable than the team’s HR rate and should stabilize soon. Morrow already seems to have recovered some sense of the zone, and Lowe looked dynamite yesterday, and Batista doesn’t seem to be in line for a whole lot of high leverage innings.

Or hey, you could just use tRA
How would tRA be different from FIP

In terms of regressing the HR rate for the entire staff and the BB rate for the bullpen only?

Oh sorry,

I forgot you sort out relievers in team stats. Well, there you go. Starters – 3.46, bullpen – 4.33tRA.

Actually the bullpen has a lower FIP because it hasn't allowed a home run
Welcome back Jeff.

The front page has missed you.

Meaning no disrespect to M & G of course.
Coolstandings probably understates our chances

According to their FAQ they use the previous season’s data at first to avoid some SSS problems. Clearly the data from last year comes from a different process than this year so the projected playoff chance using this year’s data alone is probably higher.

Of course having a high % chance to go to the playoffs in April only means we have that much farther to fall if the bottom falls out.

Otherwise we'd probably have a bigger playoff %, since we're fifth in baseball in run differential, and only a few runs from being second
That's what happens when you hit a bunch of unclutch grandslams to pad your stats after the game is already in hand.
SSS fun for idiots

7-2 = 77.8% wins
77.8% * 162 games = 126 wins. 10 games better than 2001!
26 RA in 9 games → 468 RA for the season.

Texas 71 Runs in 9 games → 1278 runs for the season. Not too shabby.

No matter how you slice it, we’ve had a hot start that isn’t sustainable. Sure beats the alternative though.

Don't crap in my cornflakes

Right now I don’t want to hear the words “unsustainable” or “regress”, even though I know they both apply – I just want to enjoy 7-2 for a while. And hopefully 8-2.

If we get to 8-2 tonight, 10-2 is a good probability.

Let’s go, Jaku!

The key is to be so unsustainably good that the regression can't drag you all the way down
This is what I'm hoping for
Until the playoffs!
After last year I'll take a first round playoff exit with a smile on my face and a song in my heart
I would take one important game in the month of September.
If there's one thing I love about sports

its that we fans always want just a little bit more than what we have. Give us a playoff appearance and we just want to win a series. Give us that and we’ll just want to make it to the World Series. Give us a that and all we want is a championship. Give us that and all we want is another.

Even Bill Simmons said he would trade a 15-1 Patriot season with a guaranteed championship if he could have a 50/50 shot at 19-0.

Not saying wanting more is wrong. I’m just saying that fan is short for fanatic and we’ll always want just a little more. That said, I’d like a victory tonight. I’ll recalibrate my unrealistic expectations from there.

There's a difference between weanting and being content with.

I want the Mariners to win the World Series, but if they stay in contention until September I’ll be ecstatic.

Aren't you already ecstatic?

Lots of reasons to be happy (such as the .gif below). This may be just the beginning of something incredible or it could just be the high water mark of the season before we tailspin. No one can know for sure.

I do know that there will be lower lows this season. Probably even higher highs. I just want to focus on what’s happened so far and enjoy it. Junior going deep. Ichiro’s grand slam. These things are real, they happened and they can’t be taken away. If we’re playing meaningful games in September, great, but there’s a lot that can happen between now and then.

We’re 7 and freaking 2. We’ve won a series against the Angels. We’ve got a team that’s fun to watch. I’m ecstatic!

I don't really care about Griffey hitting a HR.

He’s the DH. It’s what he’s being paid for. Ichiro’s GS was awesome and I flipped the hell out when I heard it, but the game was for all intents and purposes over at that point.

I am extremely happy with the way the season has gone so far, and there have been tremendously positive signs. Bedard’s health to this point, Kelley being a pleasant surprise, and yes, a 7-2 record. But no, I’m not ecstatic. This team could quite easily go 2-7 over their next 9 games and end April 4-5 games out. Aumont and Morrow are in the bullpen, Triunfel lost a year of development, Clement is horribly frustrating and as much as I still like Zduriencik and the rest of the new front office, I don’t think they’re infallible as I once (if only for a few blissful days) did. This team has burned me too many times to feel entirely comfortable this early on in the going and even the rational part of me knows that they’re not a great team.

I’m excited, I’m cautiously optimistic. But I’m not ecstatic.

Totally with you on the potential problems.

It’s striking to me how hard it is to just enjoy the moment. I’m fully guilty of this to, so I’m not trying to point fingers. Maybe I’m just beating a rather obvious dead horse.

Imagine if we had started 2-7, mostly due to being unlucky. Would we feel better about the future knowing things are going to get better as compared to going 7-2 and suspecting that things will get worse? I don’t know the answer. At first, it seems like a no-brainer to want to be 7-2, but then you have the dread of waiting for the other shoe.

It’s really hard to experience what’s happening this year without thinking about last year. I just hope that we don’t let last year spoil our enjoyment of what’s happening now too much.

Welcome to life as a fan of teams other than the Red Sox.
Don't get my wrong; I've had a blast so far.

I could not be any happier with the way things have gone. (Well I could, but you know what I mean.) I’m just too much of a realist to let the irrationally hopeful fan in me mingle with the rational, analytical me just yet.

I do.

And the answer is hell no. Math is idiotic.
We’ve been lucky. We’ve also been really fun to watch. Winning this division doesn’t seem as much of a long shot as it once did.

I feel happy after wins and unhappy after losses, and after all the misery of last year, a bit of luck and happiness is really all I want out of baseball.

Exactly

this year, wins make me happy and losses upset me – last year, wins were greeted with apathy, and losses were greeted with even more apathy.

I actually liked losses near the end of last year.

Remember the hunt for Strasburg!

Actively rooting for my team to lose was the worst experience of my life as a sports fan

and I hope to hell I never have to go through that again.

Remember how we lost at that, too?
Why yes I do, thank you sb.
That really was the worst team ever wasn't it.
Screw that.

This year’s Rockies/Rays, or bust. Bonus points for actually winning the Series.

I hope to God you're being sarcastic.
Yup.

Partly, anyway.

I want to be the 1990's Braves and make the playoffs every year, thanks
If you had a choice

1990’s Braves minus 1995

OR

2006 St. Louis Cardinals (potential one-hit wonder)

Who would you want to be a fan of?

1990s Braves every time.
1990's Braves, in a heartbeat.

WInning a World Series would be 8000 kinds of awesome, but I’d rather have a long stretch of sustained quality than to have one trophy and nothing else.

Are those the only choices?

/chickenrun

Assuming we’re talking about 10 year of really good but no ring vs 10 years of mediocre and 1 ring I’d take the ring. The analyst in me says the good team for longer would be more fun to watch, but the fan in me says “ring? shiny!”

Ask the Marlins how that feels and get back to me
The Marlins or their fans?

You’d have a hell of a time finding the latter

either one, really
They are hitting their every six years this season.

And they are not disappointing so far. Maybe they have found the secret recipe?

Imagine what Larry Beinfest would do if he had money and/or fan support
Give the money to ownership, sell the fans to the Rays, give that money to ownership,

and then watch Loria lower the gun.

I took this as a personal preference question.

As a Blazer’s fan I feel like I’ve had the “good team but no championship” experience and am ready for the “sure we suck now, but at least we’ve got a ring”. Supporting a miserable team is no fun, but neither is getting tantalizingly close each year without sealing the deal.

My quick poll* of Marlins fans resulted in the following responses:
We wouldn’t trade our championships for anything: 1
We’d trade our championships for a few years of being respectable: 1
How ’bout dem Gators!?!: 32,654

  • I didn’t actually poll anyone
Good thing you put in that disclaimer

It was clear you were making things up when you polled more than 12 Marlins fans

I think he just randomly polled people in South Florida

and only found two Marlins fans out of 32,656 respondents

That's where I disagree

I’ll take tantalizingly close any time. Of the Mariners’ 31 seasons, exactly four have ended in playoff appearances. If they make the playoffs even five years in a row, let alone ten, I would be giddy.

I think I'd take the championship

the teams I love have never won (so that’d be the Mariners, the Seahawks and UCLA football and hoops), but they’ve all had some sustained excellence, and I think I’d trade it to have the feeling of winning just once.

Maybe it changes once you’ve won a championship, but that first one will be (whenever it may be…) awfully sweet.

And no, the Storm don’t count.

Oh, don't get me wrong

when the M’s finally win a World Series I will have no hesitation in being the drunkest most celebratingest person in the NW – I’ve waited a LONG GODDAMN TIME for that. But I’d rather it not be a Rockies/Rays oneoff – if 10 straight years in the playoffs yield one WS, I’m good with that.

Rays aren't a oneoff.
As of right now they are

I hope that they do turn into a more sustained good team, but as of this day that hasn’t happened yet.

I think it's reasonable to assume that they're going to be good for a while.

The Rockies just got insanely lucky and I think everyone knew it.

So yes, technically the Rays are a oneoff, but I would bet they’re going to be relevant for a while now.

I've been burned too many times by sports to assume anything

I blame the Mariners for this, too.

Really? All of them?

Why not just Kenji Johjima? It’s so much easier that way.

Because if I blamed it on all of them

I’d have to start blaming people like Gaylord Perry, Jose Cruz, and all the rest, and that’s just too time consuming on an individual level, so I stick with the team.

Rockies don't count because they didn't win

I’d kill myself if my team blew for ten years, had one magical run… and came up four games short of winning the world championship, then immediately faded back into mediocrity.

I'd rather have a good team

that I can get excited for every year than have a shitty team that always disappoints, excepting the one WTF-we-got-lucky-who-cares-woohoo year.

Who cares if you won by luck though?

It doesn’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning’s winning.

Thank you, Dom.
Oh, I'd be dancing in the streets.

But I’d rather follow a team where every season is fun, every season you’re playing meaningful games (playoff games!), and every season you have a legitimate shot at taking it all.

Of course either one would be cool.
The Braves

But without the godawful tomahawk chop.

The Cardinals mad the postseason 6 out 7 times from 00 to 06
So close in 2007...
Sorry to harsh on your buzz man.

I’m enjoying the results just as much as anyone. It’s hard to not expect the other shoe to drop after last season’s shoe avalanche.

Moratorium on doom and gloom until we lose again?

I wish coolstandings.com was more transparent in general in terms of how it calculates playoff odds.

I wonder what they stand to gain by not revealing much or any of their projection system. I’m not saying they should give up the whole enchilada, but I think a little more explanation would lend them more credibility.

7-2! Ichiro's back!

I like that Ichiro sort of gives Yuni a two-handed shove at the end of his trot.
Meh it looks way too friendly, nevermind.
It kind of looks like he's tickling his pits.
Baker is reporting that the M's are calling up

Burke and Sean White. So Tui gets sent down and Joh goes on the DL?

Holy shit catcher gets injured and Clement still has to hang out in AAA?

Did he sleep with Zduriencik’s wife?

I would hope a former first rounder could pull better tail
Burke?

He isn’t on the 40-man is he? Sounds like Bryan LaHair is about to get bumped.

We have open spots.
Gotcha.

This quote from Divish’s blog is what confused me

Kenji Johjima has a strain of the right hamstring. Wakamatsu said it will be reevaluated on Thursday. If he goes on the disabled list, they could either call up Jeff Clement or Jamie Burke. Clement is struggling mightily at Triple A Tacoma, hitting just .053 (1 hit in 19 at-bats). The M’s could call on veteran Jamie Burke, but he’s not on the 40-man roster, and so to call him up, someone would have to be taken off the 40-man roster, which would make the eligible to be claimed by another team. But someone like Bryan LaHair, who is on the 40-man, could be dropped to make room.
I realize that spring training and 19 AAA at bats isnt much to go on for 2009, but I'm beginning to think Clement just might not be very good.

Just throwing it out there.

He can hit, they just need to shit or get off the pot and figure out what they're going to do with him.
Yeah, I agree they should have given him more of a shot behind the plate in Seattle,

but I dont think his bat is good enough to make him very valuable if he’s 1B or DH.

I don't actually think they should give him a shot at C in Seattle.

His defense is bad, his knees are bad and Adam Moore is a decent prospect. Moving him to 1B or DH hurts his value, sure, but he’d still be cheap, young and LH. That’s more valuable than being a AAAA catcher or not being able to play because of injuries.

This a thousand times
I guess if the plan is to move him away from catcher I'd just assume trade him at this point.

I feel like we’re good on LH 1B/DH sock between Griffey and Branyan, and you’ve still got Carp to fill that role if one of them goes down.

His value is in the shitter.

You couldn’t get anything decent for him right now. Carp isn’t nearly as good as Clement offensively and probably never will be.

Put him at 1B in Tacoma now. See if he can stick. If he picks it up quickly, call him up and make him a bench bat/1B/DH/3rd C later on.

I agree that Clement's value is low now, but as a LH 1B/DH, is he really worth more to the Mariners than he might be to another club?
I'd say so

Russell Branyan is a serviceable player, but it’s not like he’s Albert Pujols.

Safeco is made for left handed power bats, and Jeff Clement is a young one under club control. If Clement busts, he busts, but if Clement succeeds we’re in great shape. If he busts, we have Carp, and if he succeeds, we can certainly trade Carp.

I guess Branyan and Griffer are only under contract for one year, so this makes sense.
Not only that, but the idea of trading Clement is directly tied to the aussmption you're going to get something back.

At this point, you’re not.

Sure, but if you believe that Clement is a valuable player

but also that the Mariners cant trade him for anything of value, then there has be be the assumption that the other teams are not capable of seeing his value in the same way that the Mariners are. I agree that his stock is down now, but shouldnt that affect our evaluation of his talent in the same way it affects other clubs’ evaluations?

My point is that he still has value

but there are enough questions about his value that other teams are unlikely to take much of a risk. You’re not likely to get what he’s worth to the team if you trade him, so it’s preferable to try and optimize his future contributions. If he can stick at 1B and he comes up and hits, he’ll have more value than he does now. Or you can call him up and have him catch and see if he can regain his value that way.

The overall point is right on, but...

at some point, you’ve got to view Clement as an elite hitting prospect for a catcher, and not as an elite hitting prospect.
Carp’s numbers at the same age/level are probably a bit better than Clement’s, though that’s obviously a small sample. Clement obviously went off last year in Tacoma, but his bad years are much worse than anything Carp’s done – even setting age aside.

At this point, I just don’t know what to make of Clement, 1B. It probably makes the most sense, but yet I’m not convinced he’s a better 1B prospect than Carp. Which is too bad.

That's fair, I suppose.

I just like Clement’s skillset more than I like Carp’s skillset. I agree that he’s not an elite hitting prospect, but I think it’s reasonable to expect him to be at least average as a hitter at 1B for a few years.

What are the differences in skillset in your mind?

Clement has the edge due to having a bit more patience?
How do you adjust for ARL?

To be clear, I’m not being argumentative, I’m just curious. Clement is kind of maddening, because I don’t know how to define his skillset anymore. I always feel that the ‘power potential’ that people talked about when he was drafted is still included, and while he’s by no means a slap hitter, I just don’t think he’s a 35HR guy. It also makes it difficult if he moves off of C, because so much of what people talked about with him – all the things that made him elite – were tied up in position scarcity. Right? Or is that too pessimistic?

Clement has more patience, better contact skills and more power.

I think Carp’s most likely outcome is LH bench bat. I think Clement’s most likely outcome at 1B is league average (maybe a bit above a few years.)

He’s definitely not an elite prospect as a C, but I think people underestimate his hitting ability because his value would take such a huge hit if he were to move to 1B. His offensive value as a catcher was pretty huge; it’s not like people thought he was a catcher who could hit a little bit, he was supposed to be a good hitter that could play C.

You know way more about the farm system than I do, though, so I’m willing to defer to you to a certain extent.

While I agree that getting Clement into Seattle's lineup is a good idea

I just don’t see how management would pull it off without him playing at catcher. Would they really take playing time away from Griffey and/or Branyan to get him into the lineup at 1B/DH?

Who gives a fuck just play him at C
Ideally that's what I want to see.

With Griffey/Branyan/Clement in the lineup at the same time the team looks a touch more competent against RHP.

Rec'd because gosh dangit this is the effing truth.

Give him a 1B glove and stop dinkin’ around with this C thing…

We have 39 spots filled and neither Burke or White are on the 40 man

So something has to happen

wait 38, forgot about Feierabend being on the 60 day

Never mind

Yeah that was in the Drayer post that was linked above by Matthew

I may have been the only one to read all the way to the end of it though, because Shannon just kinda tosses it out there at the end of that

Just trade Clement already and be done with it.
What could we get for him?
Adam Everett come on down
That's mean.
And yet 100% accurate.
How about a live arm with good velocity but limited control for the bull pen?

Cause you can never have too many of those. /kidding

I like that Tommy Hanson has found his way onto the MLB tRA leaderboard.

Someone at Statcorner has a crush.

How can you take Statcorner seriously when it is run by a bunch of gayers?
Yeah, I cannot figure out what's going on there.
The strength of the Braves farm system must be causing Gwinett to rank above the Nationals.
Anybody want a free ticket for the possible 8-2 game tonight?

I’ve got an extra bleacher seat.

Possible 8-2?

I like that you think this is possible, it means other fans become jaded and think losses are quite likely..just like us!

Except Eyebrows is a drop of awesome in a sea of stupid Angels fans

so I wouldn’t expect anything to change, really

Aren't you more of a drop of awesome in a sea of stupid Angels fans, being in SoCal and all?
Well we have Dodgers, Padres and Red Sox fans around here too!
And Giants fans. Lots and lots of Giants fans
Those are some rough seas.
Were you formally "Optimist"

before SBNation remodeled?

Nope TheOptimist is another person.

He still pops in from time to time.

He apparently posts on HH now.
I see.

Sorry for the mistaken identity.

Eh I kind of expect it. You don't expect too many Angels fans around here.

My sig used to be “the other angels fan” to try to keep us separate in people’s minds, but he stopped posting here as often, and people all thought I lived in so cal, so I switched it to combat the other misconception.

You could have just made it "not TheOptimist" and no one would ever get you confused again!
It's true that I'm not much of an Optimist.
You're forgiven for not being much of an Optimus

none of us are


Caption: THIS PICTURE IS NOT OF EYEBROWS

I'd deepthroat my dad for a chance to be at tonight's game.

One day I’m gonna live in America for a year, I wish it was right now. :<

I could've gone my whole life without that image in my head.
What's funny is that only EM could possibly pull this off.
Robert
I don't think Robert could pull off the incest thing.
oh god what have i done
Relax

I don’t have any hot sisters.

Nice reverse psychology.
now he's going to pull off his dad, too?

that’s dedication, right there.

You win at life.
But you don't know what his dad looks like..

Oh I get it, that means you have to substitute it for you and your dad…Man that is a tough break.

I think my favorite part of baseball is you.
Really?

THIS game? It’s not even Felix day.

Did you not see Jaku in spring training?

We don’t need Felix anymore.

I can't let that blasphemy stand.

I retract the previous statement.

God Save the King.

I don't give a shit, this team is in first place for the first time during my fandom.

Do you understand that?

I have NEVER supported ANY team that has been in first place for more than one game, in ANY sport. NONE.

And this is a team I actually give a shit about [“hey the school badminton team is winning the inter-league championship!”]/

This is a first and I wish I was there to savour it the only way I know: screaming and using profane language in quiet surroundings.

Well I've got a free ticket if you want it.

You people in RandMcNally can teleport, right?

One day I am going to attend a Felix game with you, Chinn and Robert.

And I might die of laughter, but it will have been worth it.

I wonder how long it would take for y'all to get kicked outof SafeCo.
The best part would be if Felix gets roughed up and/or tweaks an ankle and leaves the game early
If this ever happens I think I will work late instead of going home.
Remember I was at the Felix Slam game ...
But now you'd have Chinn and Robert too
We probably end up Effiel Towering.
I would invite Felix and Mrs. Felix to make sweet but passionate love underneath us.
After Tuesday, I am convinced that you can pretty much get away with saying anything in the bleachers.
I guess I did try to start a chant of "blue pills" directed at Raffy Palmiero in the LF bleachers once

and no one said anything.

We were making Yuni monkey jokes.
I am suddenly glad our seats weren't together.
Should have made it less subtle
I overheard a punk saying this

“You think Nick Adenhart’s family had it bad? I had him as a sleeper on my fantasy team”

This is one of the most tasteless things ever, including anything said in a gamethread on Lookout Landing
Yeah it left me speechless

between him and the guy that was clamoring for more Griffey after every play it was pretty much the worst seat location ever.

It might not be worth it for what you have to do to/for EM's dad, though
Maybe your dad is lonely and has plane fair lying around..
Fare*, and also, self eww.
Bleacher seats are still available.

I got 5 just now…it’s going to be great to go to the game for $8 and be able to move to the 100 level.

Careful for ushers.

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