MINNEAPOLIS -- Vladimir Guerrero has a torn muscle in his chest and will miss at least a month.
The Angels sent the slugger to Los Angeles on Friday to be examined by noted team orthopedist Dr. Lewis Yocum, who found Guerrero's pectoral tear. An MRI test the day before showed a strain.
Not a great time to be an Angel fan.
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Eep.
What a random place to tear a muscle.
esoteric - April 17, 2009
It's probably a pectoral muscle.
Those can be a real bitch.
Smegmalicious - April 17, 2009
It is.
Matthew - April 17, 2009
Nice
Last year it was us. Maybe we can get a nice head start in AL West and then choke in August or so. As long as it’s somewhat competetive this year i’m happy.
ChaseB - April 17, 2009
I don't care who they play for, there's nothing 'nice' about a player suffering a non-minor injury.
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2009
It's hard to feel too bad for guys making that kind of money.
Unless it’s a major injury, It’s part of the game. You must be in school.
ChaseB - April 17, 2009
Way to make totally bullshit assumptions.
I am in school and I work full time. I just happen to have a fucking conscience.
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2009
I'm not here to argue.
So one last thing. If you want to feel bad for someone getting hurt, why don’t you go feel bad for someone who got injured and can’t pay his mortgage. There is alot of people out there like that.
A true bullshit assumption indeed.
ChaseB - April 17, 2009
Nice strawman.
Amazingly I am capable of feeling bad for more than one person at a time.
Take your ad hominems elsewhere.
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2009
What a strange set of assumptions.
How about not reveling in the injuries of opposing teammates because it’s bad sportsmanship?
esoteric - April 17, 2009
Or because they're human beings?
Did you cheer when Nick Adenhart died too?
Vatinius - April 17, 2009
Apparently now that I'm out of school it's okay for me to do that.
esoteric - April 17, 2009
Oh boy.
Yes, I cheered. I diddn’t think that was a serious enough injury to feel bad for.
ChaseB - April 17, 2009
I would stop now if I were you.
You are digging yourself a hole.
Fin - April 17, 2009
Or you could take the time to read what I say.
I guess some people don’t take death as a serious injury. I feel like i’m trying to explain this to a monkey. No, I do not wish for the Angels plane to crash. Yes, I would love it if Jared Weaver was injured for the next couple of months. whew!
ChaseB - April 17, 2009
I guess it doesn't occur to you why it just comes off as bad form to write this.
esoteric - April 17, 2009
Basically what you're saying is:
The number of wins that the Mariners get this year is more important to you than the the health of 75 human beings, as long as their injuries only prevent them from working for a couple months rather than killing them.
Yeah. That’s reasonable.
Vatinius - April 17, 2009
You nailed it on head.
Problem solved.
ChaseB - April 17, 2009
re: "I feel like i’m trying to explain this to a monkey."
I already asked you to cut out statements of this nature. Show more civility in your writing.
Matthew - April 17, 2009
Or we will fling feces at you.
waldo rojas - April 17, 2009
Please show more civility in your writing.
ChaseB - April 17, 2009
The fact that people like you aren't allowed to get away with this kind of bullshit for long
is why LL is so much better than the rest of the internet.
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2009
Amen
Ezzra - April 18, 2009
This is amazing.
Teej - April 17, 2009
Your third sentence is 100% unneeded.
Don’t write juvenile stuff of that ilk again.
Matthew - April 17, 2009
Do you need to be in school to have a sense of conscience?
That’s an absurd remark.
Ezzra - April 17, 2009
I applaud your niceness but I have a whole list of platers I'd cheer a career ending injury for
Graham MacAree - April 17, 2009
This typo is fantastic.
Aaron Campeau - April 18, 2009
This was a fairly innocuous statement.
“Nice”
Not tap-dancing on anyone’s grave or a request for directions to making a Chone Figgins voodoo doll.
I think some comments are better off ignored and don’t really need 20+ replies piling on that everyone else subsequently has to ‘z’ through.
hcoguy - April 17, 2009
Well to be fair.
The first comment wasn’t a big deal. It was said author’s response to the second comment that caused the subthread to blow up.
ThundaPC - April 17, 2009
I think that cheering the injury of other teams' players is pretty classless and the rest of the subthread didn't do much to change my opinion,
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2009
How was that first comment cheering?
Being content or happy with the result of something happening =/= cheering.
Not saying he’s not a moron, but he seemed to be jumped on for something pretty tame at first.
hcoguy - April 17, 2009
Being happy about another player's injury strikes me as poor sportsmanship.
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2009
I'm OK with being happy that Vlad can't play against us
I don’t care if he’s hurt or not, this helped us, so that makes me happy.
I certainly don’t wish injury on any player, but I’m going to be happy for us when an injury to a competitor helps us.
seattlebruin - April 17, 2009
Well, Matthew did file it under "Good News"
Objectively, I suppose it is. Karmically? Who knows. That’s up to the cosmos.
esoteric - April 17, 2009
Reply fail.
esoteric - April 17, 2009
Good news for the Mariners and actively hoping players on rival teams get hurt are two completely different things
seattlebruin - April 17, 2009
Yeah, I understand the difference.
esoteric - April 17, 2009
I know
should have responded to Napoleon Dynamite above instead of you, ’zoh well
seattlebruin - April 17, 2009
I'm looking forward to seeing if they can luck their way out of this one.
ThundaPC - April 17, 2009
Well there were plenty of Angel TM pussy hits last night. They are going to need even more of them now.
How does this affect their epic bad outfield defence? I assume this helps?
EnglishMariner - April 17, 2009
Yeah, it probably helps.
They ought to shift Abreu to DH now and throw a real OF out in the corner.
Matthew - April 17, 2009
Willits or Rivera
are the most likely to take the spot I would think.
bluemax - April 17, 2009
This is a shitty, painful, slow healing injury.
I’ll take the way over on the month.
Big Jared - April 17, 2009
Yeah, I'd say 6-8 weeks is a better estimate.
Matthew - April 17, 2009
Any idea how a tear like this happens during a baseball player's routine?
Swinging a bat, perhaps? Seems like something I could see happening in the weight room, too.
esoteric - April 17, 2009
Probably a bad swing
To seriously tear a pec lifting you have to be going at in a pretty extreme fashion or using really sloppy technique or have some sort of accident.. It’s not an uncommon injury for bodybuilders/powerlifters who go balls to the wall with weights as a matter of their business.
Vlad has never struck me a big weight room disciple and baseball players typically don’t train in ballistic fashion during the season.
Big Jared - April 17, 2009
Knowing Vlad's swings, it was definitely that
The way he manipulates his body to make some of the swings he does, and the violence in which he actually swings, both play a huge factor in this injury.
I expect him to be out for a while, particularly because his approach to the plate will be stunted for a rather considerable amount of time. Of course, Vlad is a monster who thinks batting gloves are for sissies, so he’ll probably be willing to swing through the pain sooner than most.
6-8 weeks is a fair estimate.
cwel87 - April 18, 2009
Happy 2 year anniversy of Felix going down!
Robert - April 17, 2009
What? The Twins game?
That was only two years ago? Shhhhhhhhhhhhhittttt….
EnglishMariner - April 17, 2009
The T-Bird tavern on 15th NW was a solemn place that evening.
waldo rojas - April 17, 2009
The knife cruise across the Robert's Wrist Straights has never been more busy.
Robert - April 17, 2009
You're a disturbing individual.
JLProck - April 17, 2009
In other good news
the Angels and Rangers both are currently trailing. Oakland is tied with the Blue Jays.
bluemax - April 17, 2009
And we still have the sucky Texas bullpen to come
EnglishMariner - April 17, 2009
Weird sight to see everyone struggling to get to .500.
While we need to lose 4 straight to do the same.
ThundaPC - April 17, 2009
So we will be .500 by Tuesday.
I’m still a hopeless pessimist.
marinerdan - April 17, 2009
Wheeeeeeeeee!
This is the part where the coaster goes down. But this one’s not coming up for a while.
Eyebrows - April 17, 2009
The Angels will luck their way to 120 wins for sure.
Fin - April 17, 2009
And Moseley left the game due to elbow injury!
Eyebrows - April 17, 2009
The worst thing is that with the Angels luck
they’ll finish with the worst record this year and Washington will draft and not sign Stephen Strasburg
seattlebruin - April 17, 2009
I predict that people will overstate the impact of this injury
Jeff Sullivan - April 17, 2009
If the Angels play this smartly and shift Abreu to DH
This might be what, only a half win downgrade over two months? Maybe less.
Matthew - April 17, 2009
They better use Willits
Jeff Sullivan - April 17, 2009
I'm waiting for them to just call up Brandon Wood and play him at DH or something.
Matthew - April 17, 2009
He probably won't set the MLB K record unless her gets at least 3 months of playing time
Graham MacAree - April 17, 2009
No way, that's Mark's record goddamnit.
Goose - April 18, 2009
Wouldn't Willits only be valualbe if he is in center?
I don’t see them moving Hunter anytime soon. Thank you Gold Gloves.
vivaelpujols - April 18, 2009
Position doesn't really matter
he’ll be somewhat valuable at any of the three OF positions.
Jeff Sullivan - April 18, 2009
He'd be like +20 in a corner spot and +10 in CF
His range is basically the same but he loses 10 runs because CF has a much larger range of territory to protect. But because CF is harder to play by a margin of 10 runs his overall value is the same.
The Angels might be better served by moving Torii to a corner spot and Willits to center, but that doesn’t change Willits’ value as a player.
(I don’t know if those are his actual numbers I’m just throwing them out their to illustrate the positional difference)
OlSalty - April 18, 2009
The thing is...
for a player like Willit’s, who’s value is completely tied up in his defense, their is really only a limit of how good he could be defensively at an easier position. If he is +10 in center, than he probably wouldn’t be +20 in a corner spot, because nobody is that good. He may only +15 in a corner, in which he wouldn’t be as valualbe.
vivaelpujols - April 18, 2009
Most people who would be +20 in a corner are playing center
Jeff Sullivan - April 18, 2009
It's especially not a good time to be an Angels fan after tonights game, ouch.
OlSalty - April 17, 2009
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2009
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