The fun thing about rooting for a ragtag team of opportunistic glove mavens is that nary a win will go by that fans of the opposition won't blame their own players for the loss. There aren't going to be any "well the Mariners just played better than us tonight"s, but you can bet your bottom dollar there are going to be a lot of "WHO IN SAM HELL TOLD GABE KAPLER TO TAKE SNAPS FROM SECOND BASE WHILE WE'RE PLAYING THE FIELD"s. Some might prefer to see their team get credit for winning, but me, I prefer the double satisfaction of knowing the Mariners won while the other team's fans are humiliated, and from the looks of things, there's going to be a lot more humiliation down the road. To winning humiliatingly!
- Jarrod Washburn has never been my favorite pitcher on the staff, but I have to give him one thing - when he gets amped up during a game, he pitches like it. After his rocky start tonight, he just went lights out, fanning nine of the 29 batters he faced and keeping contained a damn fine lineup. The biggest key was his success against the Crawford/Pena/Iwamura trio of lefties, who combined to go 0-10 against Washburn with six strikeouts and eight runners stranded. Pena had the most trouble, whiffing on five of the seven swings he took. Washburn just had his breaking ball working all night long, and he was able to generate outstanding results.
Three starts into the season, Washburn's numbers look pretty familiar, with the same flyball and strike rates as he's always posted. But if you look at his swinging strike rate, it's up from the 6% he posted in 2006-2008 to 7.1% so far in 2009. It's not much, and this early in the year the difference is statistically insignificant, but he has been missing more bats than we've come to expect, and on the off chance that this is for real, then the implications are positive across the board. Maybe he really did improve his changeup. Maybe he really did sharpen his sinker. Maybe he really did get a better feel for his breaking ball. No matter what's happened, Washburn's been pretty good so far, and tonight he was great. It's funny how games like this almost make me not want to hate him.
- Aside from Jarrod Washburn, the story of the game has to be Gabe Kapler's positioning. A pretty good defensive corner guy with a lot of time in the middle under his belt, he's no stranger to center field, but tonight he just looked all kinds of wrong, and his defense arguably cost Tampa a win. In the bottom of the fourth, he played Rob Johnson alarmingly shallow, and got burned when Johnson hit a liner over his head for a two-run triple. Two batters later, he was playing shallow again when Yuni tripled over his head. Two batters after that he had to sprint backwards to snag an Endy Chavez line drive that would've been routine for a CF in normal position. And then in the eighth, Kapler was playing too shallow and couldn't get a good angle on a Mike Sweeney liner, allowing Sweeney to get to second as the ball rolled towards the wall.
Four clear-as-day examples of one guy starting out in the wrong place. You could make the argument, of course, that it's perfectly justifiable to play shallow when any of Johnson, Betancourt, Chavez, or Sweeney are at the plate, but the difference between shallow and where Kapler was standing is about the same as the difference between where Kapler was standing and second base. He was positioned too aggressively, and the Rays paid dearly because of it. Have I told you how much I love having our outfield?
- You think the coaching staff had a nice long chat with Yuni before the game? Here's his day:
AB#1: Takes two balls, lines 2-0 pitch (strike) for single
AB#2: Takes one ball, lines 1-0 pitch (strike) for triple
AB#3: Takes two balls and a strike, bunts 2-1 pitch
The bunt, though oddly timed, was a nice touch and a clear nod to the coaches, a message from Yuni saying he really has been paying attention and just wants another chance. He's not real comfortable with bunting yet, but with his speed, the team thinks it could be a useful weapon, so we got to see him try to use it in a game situation. Didn't work out, but I doubt Wakamatsu will care very much. He'll see the effort and the taken pitches and commend his shortstop on a job well done. And he deserves it. I didn't want Yuni to start tonight, but he really shaped up.
A shame about that Burrell single that got by him in the fourth. I guess some things are beyond fixing.
- GRIFFEY WATCH '09: 14 team games, three games played in the field, three times replaced in the late innings, zero games played in the field since Ichiro's return. Don Wakamatsu very clearly knows what arrangements are in his best interests. The only thing left to see is whether or not this holds up when Chavez starts to slump, but right now I don't see any indication that Griffey's going to see much time in the field at all.
- As expected, the magnitude of the ovation given when Griffey's announced as the hitter has diminished steadily ever since the home opener. Let's consult a handy chart:
The Griffey ovations haven't yet leveled out, but they're getting close. Even when they do level out, I imagine he's going to get the most applause of anyone on the team, but the minute the slope hits zero is the minute the novelty's worn off, and we're rapidly approaching that point. Pretty soon Griffey's just going to be another player. Another popular player, of course, but no longer a guy we have to welcome back with Crayola love notes sloppily written on posterboard.
- With the number of pitches David Aardsma spikes in the dirt, it's a wonder he ever allows a fly ball.
Has Washburn been traded yet?
Robert - April 21, 2009
Why did Griffey's ovation rate see a sudden rise?
That is clearly unsustainable.
Snowman1025 - April 22, 2009
That's supposed to be at the end of the season.
Eyebrows - April 22, 2009
Great caption
dbroncos31 - April 22, 2009
Agreed.
The novelty of editing AP captions has not worn off for me in the slightest.
Also, nice use of the word ‘humiliatingly’.
ralphie81 - April 22, 2009
Seconded.
The captions are becoming the best part of the game notes.
Eyebrows - April 22, 2009
The weird Ichiro bunt explained by Baker:
BrianL - April 22, 2009
Wak is covering for his players.
Somebody screwed up — whether it was Ichiro or Yuni — and Wak is falling on the sword.
ryanhealy - April 22, 2009
Which, honestly, is the right thing for the manager to do in that situation
we don’t need more “I coached good, they played bad” speeches
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
If anyone put money on Rob Johnson hitting the first triple by the M's this year
They would be really dumb, really lucky, and really rich.
Scrupio - April 22, 2009
I, for one, wouldn't mind that combo.
Damn 20/20 hindsight.
ralphie81 - April 22, 2009
I really really wish we would tone down the bunting.
This offense can’t afford to be giving away outs.
Goose - April 22, 2009
Yeah, and it is losing its effectivenss.
Longo made two great plays on bunts, but he was expecting it. He played near the infield grass and charged like hell when he saw our guys square around. And then when you ask someone like Griffey to bunt, that’s just dumb. He won’t ever leg out an infield bunt hit and he is likely to knock it right back at the pitcher just as he did tonight.
Time to use the fake bunt then quick swing on opponents. Try getting that bloop single over the infield’s head. It will make them think twice about playing in for the obvious bunt situation.
Wilder. - April 22, 2009
I highly doubt Wakamatsu told Griffey to bunt.
Seems like an on-his-own thing ala David Ortiz to “beat the shift” but executed much more poorly.
BrettJMiller - April 22, 2009
That is even worse if Griffey decided to lay the bunt down.
Maybe when having a sizable lead it’s okay, but not in the situation he was in tonight.
Wilder. - April 22, 2009
Players are stupid
BrettJMiller - April 22, 2009
Are you kidding?
There was nobody playing to the left of second base until the right fielder
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
Honestly, I didn't see the defensive shift.
That does change the situation, but I would like to see him try hitting to the opposite field more than bunt.
Wilder. - April 22, 2009
A bunt is significantly easier to control the placement of
It was a really shitty bunt, but regardless, it will make opposing defenses aware that Griffey is willing to do that to get on base, and they’ll be forced to downplay the shifting.
It was a pretty good decision on his part. The execution…another story.
cwel87 - April 22, 2009
Being able to prove you can hit to the opposite field would do more to defensive shift than the bunt.
I think the best idea is just to flip the bat out. Not quite a swing and not a bunt. It allows you to control the position placement a little more and you can solidly hit it past the pitcher.
But hey, if Griffey is working on bunting to the left side to defeat the shift, then I see no problem with him doing so. He executed well by making solid contact, just didn’t get the ball pushed in the right direction. This really is fun baseball to watch and I hope the strategy continues to evolve as the opposing defense finds themselves out of position.
Wilder. - April 22, 2009
Pretty much
Bunting there every so often is a good idea, not only because it comes with the upside of an easy single, but also for game theory reasons. I don’t have a problem with it.
Jeff Sullivan - April 22, 2009
It makes a little more sense if you're primarily a singles hitter...
…(Joe Mauer does this fairly well to keep the defense honest, or against LHP that he doesn’t feel very comfortable against), but even for someone with a little pop it’s good to keep the other team guessing.
ubelmann - April 22, 2009
If anything
after a half dozen cheap singled they’d cancel the shift, and then you could swing away through a normal defense.
JI - April 22, 2009
He could have literally walked to first base if he put that thing down right.
And yes, I’m talking about Griffey.
cwel87 - April 22, 2009
I want to pile on:
I wish players who are forced into a shift would bunt MORE than they do, because it is a free base if you pull it off reasonably well.
EnglishMariner - April 22, 2009
Bunts
in order to use the fake bunt the team needs to establish the legitimacy of a real bunt. I think they’ve done that this far. Teams from now on will have to watching for the bunt.
In addition the plays by Longoria were executed perfectly. The Mariners should take into account the quality of the fielders when deciding to bunt, but still, if an outfielder makes an amazing diving catch of a line drive, you don’t stop hitting line drives, you just give the outfielder the credit he deserves.
I liked the Griffey bunt because of the shift. If he lays the bunt down right it’s a single early in the inning. I’m not sure what’s wrong with that. What’s the odds that he lays the bunt down right vs. what happened? 50/50? .500 average for a single is something I’m happy to take in a close game.
Snuffleupagus - April 22, 2009
More on 'establishing the bunt'
We now have a reputation as a team that bunts way more than usual. Our hitters seem to be GB hitters on the whole. Defenders need to come in closer to guard against the bunt. Does this have any noticeable benefit on how many GB go through?
Note: as a general rule, I am against excessive bunting and subscribe to The Book’s groupthink.
EnglishMariner - April 22, 2009
I'm almost certain it should have an effect on how many GB go through
It’s not that different than Ichiro’s speed forcing defenses to play in, making it easier for him to punch the ball through. Or how easy it is to get a single through a drawn-in infield when the tying/winning run is on 3rd base. (I hate, hate, hate having to pull the infield in for those situations. It just seems so ridiculously easy to get a ground ball through the IF in those situations.)
I think that as a general rule, lots of bunting is a bad idea, but it depends a lot on the individual hitter and fielders in a given situation. If you’re Mike Sweeney or Jamie Burke, you shouldn’t be bunting unless it is a sacrifice and you really, really, really are playing for one run. If you’re Endy Chavez and you’ve got some speed and hit 55% ground balls, I think it makes a lot of sense to try to bunt a fair amount to draw the infield in as much as possible to help you out when you’re swinging away. Especially if the corner infielders aren’t very good at handling bunts or the pitcher is prone to throwing the ball away or slow to get off the mound.
ubelmann - April 22, 2009
The PR dept.'s job is to make sure the novelty of Griffey does not wear off.
Until they can sell the playoffs they will sell Griffey. Even then though, it will be: watch Griffey lead the team back to the playoffs! If that happens, I don’t think anyone here will care how they sell the team!
mark sobba - April 22, 2009
Mike Sweeney:.313/.333/.375 Professional Hitter
The Jose Vidro void has been filled.
Goose - April 22, 2009
Only he's a bench player and will be re-designated to 'good clubhouse presence' once Branyan feels better.
That makes him better in many ways than Jose Vidro.
cwel87 - April 22, 2009
At least lets hope so.
I don’t want Wak to “ride out his hot streak” when Branyan does feel better.
Fin - April 22, 2009
Submitted without comment
Baker
Goose - April 22, 2009
Baker's day has arrived
OlSalty - April 22, 2009
YEAH!!!
Play through that fucking injury! That’s what men do! Fucking throw ’til your arm falls of and shit! Just rub a little dirt into the gushing socket!
Eyebrows - April 22, 2009
To be fair, a cramp is typically the kind of pain that where the player knows he won't do any more damange by playing in pain
just experience some discomfort, so if he can play through it at maximum effectiveness, it’s not necessarily such a bad thing.
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
Well yeah I know this isn't an extreme example
just this part of the quote:
Yeah that stupid stuff sets me off.
Eyebrows - April 22, 2009
Yeah, I know what you mean
leave it to Sweeney to pull out the old-veteran cliches about playing through pain
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
Yeah, the mistake is really on Sweeney for using the word 'error'
Not on Washburn for pitching through a cramp.
ralphie81 - April 22, 2009
Wow, I'm not awake yet.
That’s supposed to be ‘injury’.
ralphie81 - April 22, 2009
As Long As They Are Playing Hard
I don’t care how stupid the reasoning is…
SebastianPruiti - April 22, 2009
No
it’s stupid for players to play through injury – it diminishes their effectiveness and opens the possibility for greater injury due to overcompensation or overuse of whatever their injured body part is.
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
Like football
I don’t mind it when players play ‘hurt’, but I really do mind when they play ‘injured’. These guys know the difference, and for the most part, they can play a little hurt and still be effective and not delay their recovery.
It’s when guys like Ibanez play injured for the better part of a year that pisses me off.
batura - April 22, 2009
You really need to define what an injury is
A torn rotator cuff, sure don’t try to pitch through that. A cramp? You aren’t gonna cause any damage to yourself. Somebody should have told Micheal Jordan he should have sat on the bench when he had the flu.
If it isn’t hurting the player’s ability to perform and it isn’t going to cause damage in the future then you better fucking man up and pitch through the pain.
Edgar for Pres - April 22, 2009
At least it explains the roaring.
ralphie81 - April 22, 2009
Much better than a bunch of players feeding on each other, last years bullshit wore out pretty quick.
I’d rather listen to this. Besides, the reporters are going to get a quote, they can’t function without a quote. And if they don’t get a quote, then the story is about how Bedard refuses to give a quote, and is therefore a sullen little bitch. There’s a great story I can’t wait to read everyday. I’ll take Mike Sweeney Sugar Coated Hyperbole for $1000 Alex.
Kermit. - April 22, 2009
The answer is, "This man once said, 'Both teams played hard, man. Both teams played hard.'"
abender20 - April 22, 2009
That's Rasheed Wallace Classic Interview For $800.
But you did manage to find the second of two Daily Doubles, nice bit of luck on your part eh?
Kermit. - April 22, 2009
You know, for a crazy guy, Rasheed Wallace never came off as all that crazy
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
This would be a bit of a paradox, no?.
And appleshampoo just gave me an idea for the worst OT ever. And by worst I mean it could possibly be the best, but most likely the worst.
Kermit. - April 22, 2009
Post it
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
It's up!
Kind of weak being off the cuff and all, I hate 75 word filler.
Kermit. - April 22, 2009
Not in the form of a question, you lose.
appleshampoo - April 22, 2009
Nice touch with the Canadian question mark.
abender20 - April 22, 2009
Wait, I don't see a difference. That one is Canadian?
.Taylor - April 22, 2009
Good God
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
You really don't see it, eh?
joof - April 22, 2009
What a hoser eh!
Kermit. - April 22, 2009
Totally agree
I’d rather listen to things we know are stupid than things we know are stupid and are really annoying coming from the players, anyway.
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
I'm glad you mentioned the Pat Burrell single...
My memory was that of a slow roller. So slow that Washburn seemed to have time to look like he was going to stab at it but consciously thought, “I should just let the SS get it; if I stab and redirect it that could mess him up”. With the TV angle they showed (from CF) I couldn’t see Yuni, but the ball was rolling towards to outfield about as fast as a little girl skips. I kept thinking, “here comes Yuni to snag it… here he comes… it’s going to be close… this is going to be a hell of a play… any time now…” only it just rolled harmlessly onto the grass. Yuni jogged by soon after in what looked like an obligatory manner.
Azimeir - April 22, 2009
was it as bad as this?
Was somewhere there who can comment? or able to look at a decent replay?
I agree with the above post, that it seemed like he should have gotten it. Really should have gotten it.
Snuffleupagus - April 22, 2009
I was there,
I’m not sure it was as bad as that, but it wasn’t hit hard and I definitely thought at the time something along the lines of “why didn’t Yuni get that? Oh wait, it’s Yuni.”
gregrabble - April 22, 2009
Here you go
Jeff Sullivan - April 22, 2009
You can't see his starting position, but it's been mentioned Yuni has been shaded pretty far towards 3rd base.
Has anyone noticed this? If so is it on every play, or just for certain batters or pitch counts? Maybe it’s the pitch type? There’s a lot of reasons to change positioning, I’m wondering if anyone is picking up some tendencies.
Kermit. - April 22, 2009
that's why I was wondering if someone was there
with the video you can’t tell how far he was. Was this laziness or a really slow jump? was he just not paying attention?
But the video makes it look really bad.
Snuffleupagus - April 22, 2009
I've seen that play a millions times in person.
I have no idea if he is capable of making that play because he never does.
Sec 108 - April 22, 2009
So in other words you do know.
pdb - April 22, 2009
I would love to think I do.
However, the rational side of me knows that it is difficult to make solid assertions when blinded by hate.
Sec 108 - April 22, 2009
Dive for that you lazy motherfucker
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
I feel like I have been saying this for a while.
Anyone still think he is just conserving energy?
Sec 108 - April 22, 2009
Do Cubans normally spend the winter hibernating?
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
Spring and Summer actually.
Sec 108 - April 22, 2009
that's prime boat-building season
pdb - April 22, 2009
You put his entertainment visa in that baseball and I bet he gets after it.
Kermit. - April 22, 2009
You would flame someone if they said this about Ichiro
JI - April 22, 2009
Ichiro is not a middle infielder so that's a stupid thing to say
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
The hypocrisy of the mods is choking the life out of this site.
JI - April 22, 2009
has Ichiro demonstrated a past of such serious laziness?
Is he the only one avoiding optional batting practice? did his defense take a shocking decline after joining the majors?
I think there’s a key distinction when a player like Ichiro or most players don’t seem to put 110% into a catch. We give them the benefit of the doubt, Yuni gets no such leeway.
Snuffleupagus - April 22, 2009
Why do you say that Ichiro doesn't put 100% into a catch, though?
Is it because he doesn’t dive? Could that be, though, that he’s well-positioned when the play starts so he doesn’t NEED to dive?
Seriously, Ichiro’s a waaaaaaaaay better fielder than Betancourt, which is why he gets the benefit of the doubt. Yuni doesn’t seem to give a shit, and that’s the problem.
pdb - April 22, 2009
The users here are allowed to call Yuni a "lazy monkey"
There’s all kinds of nasty prejudice a favoritism penetrating what would otherwise be a wonderful site.
JI - April 22, 2009
And I still think a key distinction is that diving as a MI is much more important than diving as an outfielder
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
Watching WFB play the OF should make that pretty clear.
In the infield, you want to stop that ball at the first available opportunity, and missing it in a dive has the same result as not trying. It gets to the outfield. Diving and missing costs the team nothing – it’s still a single.
In the outfield, you often want not to dive, even if you have a fair to middling chance of making the catch, because the cost of missing the ball is at least two bases.
Llewdor - April 22, 2009
Plus %range added by diving is different
Much higher for the infield because the ball gets to them faster.
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
See this is ok
but if you end it with “stupid oafsome monkey” you hop on the one way train to awkward stares island.
Robert - April 22, 2009
That doesn't even drop the f-bomb
JI - April 22, 2009
Trying to explain it with circus tunes only made the situation worse.
Robert - April 22, 2009
You need to insult one of each person of every race on the team by calling them a monkey
then it will be ok.
JI - April 22, 2009
The ironic thing is that if Yuni was African American he would likely be a better athlete.
Robert - April 22, 2009
He'd get better jumps
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
Jimmy the Greek says hello!
Kermit. - April 22, 2009
If Washburn had time to move toward the ball and take a poke at it
Yuni should have had plenty of time to get to the ball. I mean, you don’t even see second base in that shot until the ball has cleared the infield. I don’t understand how he couldn’t have at least been close to that ball.
tootthekazoo - April 22, 2009
Also the whole "shading towards third"...
Seems peculiar. I mean if there was a shift on for Burrell, why is the 2B where he is on the play?
Azimeir - April 22, 2009
BTW, this was posted in another thread, but if you haven't seen it yet, you MUST....
…go read Drayer on Yuni.
Some of the best M’s reporting I’ve seen so far this season.
esoteric - April 22, 2009
Listening to Haselman
last night on the radio, he kept defended Yuni and why he was still out there, how Wak didn’t really have a good reason to bench him and how he needed a 2nd chance.
No, Bill, he’s had plenty of chances, Wak doesn’t need a “good reason” (and even if he did, he has plenty)… please do some research (like read your coworker’s blog) before opening your mouth. Ugh.
ralphie81 - April 22, 2009
*defending
ralphie81 - April 22, 2009
Need some coffee?
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
Yes, yes I do.
ralphie81 - April 22, 2009
Isn't this more like the eighth chance?
Eyebrows - April 22, 2009
He's had far more than that.
.Taylor - April 22, 2009
Yes, but
“last year is last year and none of that matters”. BS, Bill. Even if that were true, he’s had ample opportunity to show improvement this year and he hasn’t capitalized.
ralphie81 - April 22, 2009
Wak's been great on everything BUT this. Maybe Yuni is just an incredibly likeable guy.
.Taylor - April 22, 2009
Likeability doesn't enter into it
or at least it shouldn’t.
pdb - April 22, 2009
But it clearly does.
Mike Sweeney!
cwel87 - April 22, 2009
And it doesn't sound like he's loved, anyway.
At least it seems that way judging by the anecdote about everyone taking bp and fielding practice while Yuni listened to his iPod. Obviously might have just been one instance, but that should have been a pretty big strike on Yuni right there.
dbroncos31 - April 22, 2009
Are Washburns strikeouts looking a indication that he is mixing his pitches better?
And has a better plan on how to use his repertoire?
Scruffy Lefty - April 22, 2009
I think he's more comfortable with the defense behind him and is willing to mix up his arsenal.
.Taylor - April 22, 2009
The outfield alignment last night for the Rays was just strange.
If Upton plays last night we may not win that game.
Sec 108 - April 22, 2009
No takebacks!
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
I miss my big black beautiful stallion so much :(
R.J. Anderson - April 22, 2009
That's what she said!
JeffS - April 22, 2009
That was clever.
Posting as JeffS.
Fin - April 22, 2009
He could have said it too.
JI - April 22, 2009
The best part was how after Kapler got burned for playing Johnson so shallow, he did the same thing three more times
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
And somehow he caught one
JI - April 22, 2009
This was lees choppy before I posted it >:(
JI - April 22, 2009
I'm pretty sure he has ADD.
R.J. Anderson - April 22, 2009
Do all his routes look like pirate hooks?
JI - April 22, 2009
Yes.
And, even on routine flyballs, he does about three different turns/spins.
R.J. Anderson - April 22, 2009
Well at least he's hunky.
JI - April 22, 2009
Plus he runs hard!
I can see why the special part of the fanbase loves this guy.
R.J. Anderson - April 22, 2009
Hey, at least it's not Delmon Young in CF, right?
ubelmann - April 22, 2009
Or Elijah Dukes.
R.J. Anderson - April 22, 2009
Or Josh Hamilton
JI - April 22, 2009
Or Toe Nash.
R.J. Anderson - April 22, 2009
Yeah...
But if our guys hit little weak flairs or linedrives up the middle he makes plays on those that he otherwise would watch fall for singles; he choose to position the way he did and happened to get burned. Really only once, cause for all the fun-making of our spherical shortstop, Yuni’s hit was legit; just wouldn’t have been a three-bagger.
Azimeir - April 22, 2009
What constitutes a legit hit?
Sec 108 - April 22, 2009
Uh...
It landed on the warning track in the gap between center and left field on a decent trajectory; unless an outfielder was playing unusually deep, no one would’ve gotten to it, unlike Johnson’s 3B which would’ve been caught had the CF not been playing so unusually shallow.
Azimeir - April 23, 2009
With different positioning it may have been caught. No need for unusually deep.
The ball did the typical Safeco thing where it seemed to stop mid-flight and drop. He did hit the ball hard though so I will give you that.
Sec 108 - April 23, 2009
100,000 sold
pdb - April 23, 2009
The DRaysBay game thread is awesome.
Shawk - April 22, 2009
I don't see how that's possible.
JI - April 22, 2009
Unlikely
Jeff Sullivan - April 22, 2009
I maintain that D-Rays Bay was conceived during the Colorado game and the drinking during the beer thread gave it FAS.
Robert - April 22, 2009
Or at least thats what I remember Jeff saying once.
Robert - April 22, 2009
I have quickly glanced through it and can confirm that no it is not
OlSalty - April 22, 2009
Perhaps you could break it down and give me the readers digest version
JI - April 22, 2009
According to the readers digest issue at Safeway the other day
Kids these days are “sexting” and I am being left out.
Robert - April 22, 2009
I would pay extra for picture mail if my phone were sext compatable
JI - April 22, 2009
I saw some thing about this on Good Morning America
they had some fat 40 year old woman on who was a “Internet Security Expert” or some shit.
With my years of experience with the seedier side of the internet I should totally hire myself out as a consultant.
I need to write a book.
bluemax - April 22, 2009
Ew.
royalcurve - April 22, 2009
Why must you lie?
R.J. Anderson - April 22, 2009
Why do you turn the comments on?
JI - April 22, 2009
Have you considered banning/publicly demeaning people?
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
Perhaps even a celebrity mod week or hiring up and coming mods that get a starting job in their current system.
Robert - April 22, 2009
Done both many times.
R.J. Anderson - April 22, 2009
I see P Brady and SRQman still post.
JI - April 22, 2009
That fisherman image was awful.
.Taylor - April 22, 2009
Guest Mod Week!
We could clean up that place in a week.
pdb - April 22, 2009
No, the power would corrupt us
and we’d just sink into a pit of despair, furries, and flashing gifs.
Eyebrows - April 22, 2009
Fogel could be the control group
Robert - April 22, 2009
I'd just turn into even more of a misanthrope than I am now probably
but it’d be fun slashing and burning through the weeds to get to that point.
pdb - April 22, 2009
Robert would ban himself on accident
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
Even Robert isn't capable of that level of stupidity.
JI - April 22, 2009
Are you saying Robert is smarter than Graham?
R.J. Anderson - April 22, 2009
I banned myself on purpose you silly sons of a bitch
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
It's a fine line between clever and stupid.
JI - April 22, 2009
I still don't see why it was stupid
I wanted to see if we could ban ourselves
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
Banning yourself is such a useful tool I could see why you'd need it in your batbelt
JI - April 22, 2009
You'll understand when puberty finally catches up to you
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
I think this is a poor insult because he is quite short.
If puberty had to catch up with him I don’t care how your traveling, 3 feet 9 inches isn’t going to take that long.
Robert - April 22, 2009
If I were able to sprout hair was there was no hair before I would be able to join the circus.
JI - April 22, 2009
Couldn't you already?
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
He could be the Living Typo
OlSalty - April 22, 2009
If this is headed where I think it's headed it's about as fresh as being told a Silva is fat lol joke whilst being dutch oven'd by the joke teller
JI - April 22, 2009
With all the Jew and Bukkake jokes
what’s not to like?
Llewdor - April 22, 2009
Is it just me
Or were the Mariners trying to set a new record for bunt base hits last night (and failing miserably)?
Ike Clanton - April 22, 2009
Meanwhile in Pittsburg...
A routine 1-6-2-5-1 DP then.
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
Pittsburgh
JI - April 22, 2009
new Rays bitches
Matthew - April 22, 2009
I can't believe you called these guys too.
Are you ever wrong?
Robert - April 22, 2009
Once.
I had to prove that I could be wrong about something or risk getting burnt at the stake, so I intentionally spoke a mis truth.
Matthew - April 22, 2009
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/9/27/622988/9-27-open-game-thread#9028033
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/9/9/611054/9-9-open-game-thread#8640031
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=al&qual=y&type=6&season=2008&month=0
JI - April 22, 2009
FanGraphs uses inferior park adjustments
Matthew - April 22, 2009
Seems like you should get on that rant then
JI - April 22, 2009
I already wrote that rant
Matthew - April 22, 2009
Did you publish it?
JI - April 22, 2009
Yes
Matthew - April 22, 2009
where
JI - April 22, 2009
Places.
Matthew - April 22, 2009
I'm deciding whether or not to take your word for it
JI - April 22, 2009
What kind of new Rays need that many relays in the infield?
OlSalty - April 22, 2009
I'm guessing it was a rundown.
Rollo Tomasi - April 22, 2009
That is defintitely threading the needle, holy crap.
Kermit. - April 22, 2009
Let me guess.
Bases loaded, pitcher deflects ball to shortstop, who tags the runner and then throws home. Runner from third, no longer forced to advance, retreats and gets caught in a rundown.
Simple.
Llewdor - April 22, 2009
It was corners, no outs
I’d guess that it was a gb to the pitcher who threw to short to start a routine DP, but Wilson saw that he could get the out at home and forced the runner into a pickle.
Graham MacAree - April 22, 2009
That sounds odd.
I might have to find footage of this one.
Llewdor - April 22, 2009
Fun, useless fact.
Jarrod “The Motherfucking LION” Washburn value wins over his first three starts is only .5 wins below his ENTIRE 2008 season total.
EnglishMariner - April 22, 2009
Anybody remember Nick Green?
He’s been the starting SS for the Red Sox the last few games.
redwolf75 - April 22, 2009
Today's lineups, notable because of who's hitting fifth and playing 1B:
Ichiro RF
Endy Chavez LF
Ken Griffey Jr. DH
Adrian Beltre 3B
Mike Sweeney 1B
Jose Lopez 2B
Rob Johnson C
Franklin Gutierrez CF
Yuniesky Betancourt SS
Chris Jakubauskas P
Aaron Campeau - April 22, 2009
Eh, it'd be hard to bench Sweeney after he played so well yesterday and Branyan is coming off an injury
I’m OK with this, actually
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
It's not surprising and I understand what you mean
but as an outsider it’s annoying.
Aaron Campeau - April 22, 2009
It's impossible to know if Branyan feels totally healthy
And for all the shit we sling at players who play injured, I think this is a fair decision for Wak to make.
cwel87 - April 22, 2009
I'd prefer Yuni at SS-->Cedeno at 2B-->Lopez at 1B
but I was mainly posting it to point out that Branyan is still hurt.
Aaron Campeau - April 22, 2009
Branyan isn't hurt.
I have it on good authority that he just doesn’t want to play. He’s not satisfied with his playing time at first base and feels like he should have had a chance at taking over the regular catching duties when Kenji Johjima got hurt and so, on the advice of his agent, he’s exaggerating how much his back hurts until he can get to free agency and rake in a big contract.
Bank on it. Russell surely will be.
Matthew - April 22, 2009
I really hate all the selfish fucks on our team
seattlebruin - April 22, 2009
Brilliant
JI - April 22, 2009
Cedeno-Lopez vs. Lopez-Sweeney
I’ve seen this lineup proposed quite a bit on LL while Branyan has been out, but does it really get us that much?
I can understand that
-Lopez has better defense at 1B than Sweeney
-Cedeno has better defense at 2B than Lopez
But these seem like pretty incremental differences, not enough to compensate for replacing Sweeney’s bat with Cedeno’s in the lineup. As old as Sweeney is, for offense, I’d rather see him in there than Cedeno. And really, Sweeney hasn’t been that bad at 1B. Granted I don’t recall him having many opportunities on balls hit to the right side, but he hasn’t done anything boneheaded out there.
appleshampoo - April 22, 2009
This comment was bad foreshadowing
considering Sweeney’s non-play in the first inning tonight.
appleshampoo - April 23, 2009
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