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The Mariners have abandoned, for now, any plans to have former No. 1 draft pick Phillippe Aumont continue in a starting role.
..."We felt that this was a guy, who, if used in a relief role, could be on a real fast-track to the major leagues,'' he said. "And we're talking a real fast track.''
In the end, Zduriencik said, it came down to whether the team was willing to wait several more years for Aumont to develop as a potential front-end starter for the rotation -- never a guarantee -- or go the more likely route of becoming a top bullpen arm in a much shorter timeframe. (Baker)
Phillippe Aumont is 20 years old and just used his A-level heat and sharp breaking ball to sit down some excellent hitters in the WBC. Now, out of nowhere, it appears he's being moved from the rotation into the bullpen. After appearing in all of 15 minor league games.
This may not be permanent. Dave mentions that the front office has been talking about moving Aumont to the bullpen temporarily in an effort to manage his workload. But the way Zduriencik comes off in Baker's piece...I didn't hold the Morrow thing against the organization, because that was simply a matter of his body not being built for such a demanding role, but if this is true, and if this is permanent, then it's an unforgivably, unbelievably, irresponsibly short-sighted decision.
Phillippe Aumont is 20 years old. TWENTY YEARS OLD. There is absolutely no reason to do this.
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I may be jumping to conclusions, as I might be misreading Z's comments, but...
FUCK!
JLProck - April 5, 2009
FUCK THE WBC!
And did we not just experience a painful lesson about putting a dominant starting pitching prospect in the ‘pen before we’re forced to?
PissedMick - April 5, 2009
April fools was last week you ass
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
BECAUSE THIS HAS TO BE A FUCKING JOKE
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
What the fuck
afhdfhdafgtjtkdbhkhg
Fett42 - April 5, 2009
Crap.
There goes my high from the Good News!
MFAN - April 5, 2009
WTF
I am starting to really wonder about Z
wadswerth - April 5, 2009
what
JI - April 5, 2009
WHAT
THE FUCK
Robert - April 5, 2009
WHAT THE FUCK
WhA% THE FUCKING HELL DO YOU FUSCKING H+HIUNK YOU’RE PLAYING AT YOU GOD DAMN CUNTING SON OF A BITCH.
I HOPE YOUR ANUS IS INFESTED BY RABID BAGERS AND EVERYONE YOU LOVE IS CHEESEGRATED TO DEATH IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
I DONT UNDERSTAND
Robert - April 5, 2009
MAKE MORE SENSE YOUR PHILLY ASSCUNTWHIPEHOLE
Robert - April 5, 2009
HIS FRAME WOULD MAKE FOR A PRETTY GOOD STARTER TOO
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
GOD DAMNIT THE MARINTOR WAS RIGHT
Robert - April 5, 2009
SO NOW THIS TEAM HAS NO STARTING PITCHING PROSPECTS AT ALL
THIS IS A FUCKING DISASTER
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
JUAN RAMERIEZ IS CLOSERS NAME MOTHER FUCKER
Robert - April 5, 2009
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Corco - April 5, 2009
Uh...
this post is four days late. Don’t play.
PissedMick - April 5, 2009
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
Jeff Sullivan - April 5, 2009
THIS HAS TO BE A JOKE
Corco - April 5, 2009
I just saw that.
So, Randy Johnson should have been relegated to the ’pen as well, eh?
JLProck - April 5, 2009
WEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE'RE STUPID AGAIN!
Goose - April 5, 2009
We're going to have no starters and 12 relievers.
6 pitchers per game!
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
PERFECT!
Corco - April 5, 2009
Revolutionary!
tootthekazoo - April 5, 2009
Jeff Sullivan - April 5, 2009
And some of people wanted it gone.
HAHAHAHAHA!
Goose - April 5, 2009
I admit I might've jumped the gun there.
Fin - April 5, 2009
Washburn extension in 3....2....1....
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
I don't understand this at all
The whole offseason it seemed like Zdurenciek understood that a bullpen could be put together of low cost/high reward types with live arms. He seemed to get that spending a lot of money and/or draft picks on the bullpen was not a smart move. If this turns out to be true we will have 3 first round draft picks used exclusively for relief purposes in Morrow, Fields and now Aumont.
I hope something change with this otherwise I am going to be really upset. Our rotation is Olsen twin thin and it’d be nice to have an electric arm like Aumont’s waiting to join Felix in a few years. I know that Aumont becoming the SP we all hope he will become isn’t a sure thing but it doesn’t seem worth shirking that risk by lowering his potential value in making him a reliever.
Willie Mays Haze - April 5, 2009
BOB FONTAINE IS RUNNING THE TEAM!
Robert - April 5, 2009
I hate everything in the world
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
I am no longer the happy go lucky RC you once knew
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
On the bright side we're never ever giving up runs in the 7th, 8th, and 9th innings
Unfortunately we’ll be losing 12-0 before that happens
Corco - April 5, 2009
Relievers are volatile and none of Morrow, Fields, or Aumont are guarantees
Jeff Sullivan - April 5, 2009
SORRY I'M JUST TRYIING TO FIND SOME GOOD IN THIS
Corco - April 5, 2009
Seems like a silly thing to do
Jeff Sullivan - April 5, 2009
BURN THE FUCKING TREE WITH SEVERAL BLOWTORCHES FUELDED BY THE ZDURIENCIK FAMILY'S BLOOD AND DESPAIR
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
I had to rec this.
misterjonez - April 6, 2009
We should get another boost when we trade Saunders for Dotel.
MFAN - April 5, 2009
FUCK EVERYLONE
WE’VE DRADFTED RELIEF PITCHERS IN THE FIRST FUCKING ROUND 3 FUCKING YEARS IN A CUNTING ROW.
FIRE ZDURIENCIK AND FUCK BOB FONTAINE
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
FUCK THIS GODDAMN TEAM
WHAT THE HELL COULD POSSIBLY BE THE JUSTIFICATION FOR DOING THIS
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
SO IN THEORY THE GAMES ONLY NEED TO BE 6 INNINGS LONG FROM NOW ON
Robert - April 5, 2009
The home team does make the rules...
andrewgolfsalot - April 5, 2009
SO IN FACT IF THE GAME IS RAIN SHORTENED WE ONLY NEED 3 INNINGS OF STARTING PITCHING
I LIKA THE WAY OU THINK MR Z
Robert - April 5, 2009
Call High School rules at the start of the game
Fuzz - April 5, 2009
WE CAN DO THIS ?
WHY HAVE WE NOT DONE THIS ?
i CALL SHANNNAIGENS
Robert - April 5, 2009
Let's get Strasburg and put him in the 'pen, too.
He could probably throw 110 gajillion miles per hour from the bullpen. Let’s do it!
JLProck - April 5, 2009
NOW I'M GLAD WE WON'T BE GETTING HIM
AT LEAST WE WON’T BE ALLOWEd TO FUCK UP THE BEST PROSPECT TO COME ALONG IN YEARS.
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
I think its time to reconsider our support of Z
Fett42 - April 5, 2009
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Capitals really don’t express just how loudly I shouted this
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
MOTHER FUCK MOTHER FUCK MOTHER FUCK CUNTHORSE FAGFAJITA
abender20 - April 5, 2009
!FAGFAJITA
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
Seriously the motherfucking honeymoon is motherfucking over what the rusty fuck
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
Five more years until a new GM!
BrianL - April 5, 2009
Welcome to the shitlist, Jack.
BrianL - April 5, 2009
I really want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but his comments in that article are mind-boggling.
I was really geared up to have a GM that got it, that understood what it meant to actually build a team, that understood that you can build a bullpen for cheap and that you can win without a team of superstars. This move is completely anti-that-train-of-thought.
JLProck - April 5, 2009
For the record, I'm not giving up on the guy.
But this move sucks.
JLProck - April 5, 2009
FUCK THAT SHIT I'M GIVING UP ON HIM
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
i just i dont theres what is going on help
DKCecil - April 5, 2009
So..........who's the top reliever in this years draft class.
Goose - April 5, 2009
That was supposed to be a question.
Goose - April 5, 2009
Stephen Strasburg!
Jeff Sullivan - April 5, 2009
HE'LL THROW LIKE 105 in RELIEVE
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
IN THE MARIENRS OPINION ITS STEPHEN STRASBURG
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
Strasburg if drafted by the Mariners.
MFAN - April 5, 2009
TIME TO BOMB SAFECO
Corco - April 5, 2009
Robert is already got the plans
Fuzz - April 5, 2009
I'LL BOOK MY PLANE TICKET TO SEATTLE RIGHT NOW
IT’S TIME BITCHES
Corco - April 5, 2009
ZDURIENCIK IS ACTUALLY BUFFALO BILL THAT MOTHER FUCKER JUST BILL BAVASI WEARING A MOTHERFUCKING GMZ SUIT
abender20 - April 5, 2009
BABVA BABVA BABVA BABVA BABVA BABVA BABVA BABVA BABVA BABVA
http://www.npbtracker.com/2009/02/ichiro-working-out-as-a-pitcher/
Robert - April 5, 2009
The water cooler at Safeco is fucking spiked with acid.
There is no other explanation.
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
ARGH WHAT THE FUCK
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
WHAT THE FUCK
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
HOLY CUNTING CHRIST ON A PICNIC BASKET SERIOUSLY
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
IS IT BECAUSE i ONCE WAS HAPPY?>
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
I TOLD YOU
Robert - April 5, 2009
Morrow I get, but now GMZ has fucked up with Clement and Aumont.
I thought he was supposed to be good at this whole player development thing.
BrianL - April 5, 2009
Yeah fuck that
Corco - April 5, 2009
FUCK YOU AND THE UNICORN YOU RODE IN ON THAT TURNED OUT TO BE A HORSE WITH A FICK FUCK YOU COCK GLUED TO ITS HEAD
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
FUCK
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
And even if there is some magical way we manage to snag Strasburg this year
This move still doesn’t make sense. Even with Strasburg it’d seem you’d want to keep Aumont as a starter to have to the potential Felix, Stras, Aumont triumvirate as opposed the the trident of bullpen arms in Morrow, Fields, Aumont.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that I feel like the lust victim in Seven.
Willie Mays Haze - April 5, 2009
I feel like Brad Pitt at the end of Seven.
And we all know what happens to Kevin Spacey at the end.
PissedMick - April 5, 2009
LET'S ALL KILL OURSELVES YAY
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
ONE STEP AHEAD OF YOU PAL
abender20 - April 5, 2009
ON THE PLUS SIDE OUR DRAMATIC MASS LLUICIDE AT HOME PLATE ON OPENING DAY WILL ALL BE FOR NAUGHT
abender20 - April 5, 2009
QUICK TO THE RAPPING MACHINE!!!
Robert - April 5, 2009
I hope this was supposed to be raping machine.
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
full time...
Matthew - April 5, 2009
SWEET CHRIST ON A FUCKING CRACKER
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
THIS JUST IN FELIX HERNANDEZ WILL NOW BE CATCHING.
IN OTHER NEWS, RANDY MESSENGER IS STILL CATCHING
abender20 - April 5, 2009
WHAYT THE CRAP WHY
IS IT BECAUSE FRECH FUCKJING CANADIENS CAN’T THROW FOR VERY LONG WITHOUT EXPLODING
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
I'll just assume this is Baker being confused
JI - April 5, 2009
HE'D BETTER BE FUCKING BROKEN
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
How the hell has GMZ gone from a good GM to completely and utterly incompetent in the span of a week?
BrianL - April 5, 2009
WORKING FOR THE MARINERS MAKES YOU RETARDED
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
GOOD THING WE ARE IMMUNE TO SUCH DISORDER
Robert - April 5, 2009
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU MANAGE TO KILL 40% OF YOUR 2011 STARTING ROTATION INSIDE A FUCKING WEEK
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
Hey guys remember when we thought Bavasi was really good at trades
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR DRAFTING MOSKOS THIS YEAR
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
FROM THE PIRATES
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
FUCKING CHRIST WHY
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
I'm ready for the offseason now
Corco - April 5, 2009
Triunfel is supposed to have a canon arm right? He'll be our righty setup man!
Goose - April 5, 2009
For the 5th Inning?
Corco - April 5, 2009
Wait, seriously?
JI - April 5, 2009
FUCK ME IN THE FACE WITH A CHAINSAW
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
Please intervene Chuck Armstrong
Corco - April 5, 2009
MAYBE HE ALREADY IS
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
OH YEAH
Corco - April 5, 2009
SERIOUSLY WHAT
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
i CAN;T FUCKING BELEIVE THIS SHIT
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
FIRE JACK Z!
Goose - April 5, 2009
FIRE EVERYONE AND THEN KILL THEM
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
I LVOE RELIEF PITCHERZS THEY FILL ME WITH EMOTION`
LIKE HEY FUCK YOU
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
CLOSER IS THE NEW BLACK
Robert - April 5, 2009
3 ACES I SAYS
Robert - April 5, 2009
SERIOUSLY WE HAVE LIKE SIXTEEN FUCKING CLOSERS NOW
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
we'll be unhittable after the third inning
JI - April 5, 2009
MAYBE GMZ IS SO FUCKING AHEAD OF THE GAME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NO STARTERS AND 12 RELIEVERS
AND EVERYBODY PITCHES TWO INNINGS OR SOMETHING BOY WE’LL SURE LOOK SILLY THEN
OR MAYBE HE’S FUCKING RETARDED
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
OH OH OH OH I KNOW THE ANSWER
Robert - April 5, 2009
BRANDON MORROW DOESN'T HAVE DIABETES
ZDURIENCIK JUST WANTS TO MASTURBATE OVER THE THOUGHT OF WAKA CALLING THE BULLPEN FOR HIM
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
I WAS FUCKING JOKING WHEN I SAID AUMONT WAS CLOSER #4 YOU PRICK
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
ARGH
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
LET'S DISBAND MLB
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
I'M GOING TO GO TRYOUT TO BE A STARTER FOR THE MARINERS
Corco - April 5, 2009
don't try too hard
they’ll like what they see and move you to the fuckin pen
marinerdan - April 5, 2009
I'm the opposite of Aumont though
Corco - April 5, 2009
A short left handed Mexican?
marinerdan - April 5, 2009
A short lefty-submariner who speaks English
and can’t throw hard enough to get the ball to the plate
Corco - April 5, 2009
Psh I'm a lanky 6 foot lefty with a blazing 77 mph fastball, no ability to throw anything else, and lateral epicondyle tendonitis.
I’m closing, bitch.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
No, you probably would be starting.
BrianL - April 5, 2009
KOUFAX WAS ALSO A LEFTY JEW WITH ELBOW ISSUES. SEND ME TRUCKS OF MONEY.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
He better have diabetes.
Because this is fucking retarded.
Teej - April 5, 2009
HMM LETS SEE WHO ELSE IN OUR FARM SYSTEM HAS VALUE THAT WE CAN RUIN
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
LET'S MAKE TRIUNFEL A FUCKING HITTING INSTRUCTOR
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
TRIUNFEL IS GOING TO BE THE DH OF THE FUTURE
BrianL - April 5, 2009
ICHIRO FOR CLOSER
BECAUSE WHY THE FUCK NOT
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
I WOULD SAY LATE BUT I DONT WANT Z TO THINK THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT YOUR SWING AFTER MY HYPOTHETICAL PITCH BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO BE A CLOSER
Robert - April 5, 2009
I just don't get it.
We’re converting a first round pick to a reliever in hopes of what? He becomes the next Jeff Nelson?
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED!?
BrianL - April 5, 2009
I HAVE A THEORY THAT GMZ SUFFERED SOME SORT OF BLOW TO THE HEAD LAST WEEK
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
I HAVE A THEORY THAT HE WILL SUFFER SOME SORT OF BLOW TO THE HEAD THIS WEEK
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
GOOD MAYBE THAT WILL CORRECT THE RETARDNESS THAT RESULTED FROM THE ORIGINAL BLOW
IT WORKS IN CARTOONS
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
A NEW DAY A NEW WAY!
A NEW WAY TO FUCK US OVER!
Goose - April 5, 2009
A New Day, A New Rape
Decatur - April 5, 2009
A NEW DAY, THE SAME OL' SHIT!
Fin - April 5, 2009
Our last three first-round picks are fucking relief pitchers.
Teej - April 5, 2009
DONT FORGET THE BUST IN THERE
OUR BEST DRAFT PICK HAS BEEN TUI!!
Robert - April 5, 2009
Should have posted the Bad News first.
The the Good News could of calmed us all down.
MFAN - April 5, 2009
HIRE CHRIS ANTONETTI
BrianL - April 5, 2009
It's like the puck is our future...
JI - April 5, 2009
HEY DAVE SHOULD REDO HIS FRANCHISE RANKINGS
THE MARINERS WOULD BE #31
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
32, NORTH CAROLINA IS SLIGHTLY LESS RETARDED
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Well this is a nutsack.
JI - April 5, 2009
:(
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
AND WITH THE SECOND PICK IN THE 2009 MLB AMATEUR DRAFT, THE SEATTLE MARINERS
DRAFT BRAD BOXBERGER, CLOSER TURNED START SOON TO BE CLOSER AGAIN
abender20 - April 5, 2009
HOW THE FUCK DID WE FORGET THAT THE CARROT WAS BITTER
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
SHUT UP YOU KNOW NOT OF WHAT YOU SPEAK
THIS IS SEX COMPARED TO THE CARROT
Robert - April 5, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvoeeq-BH4w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvoeeq-BH4w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvoeeq-BH4w
Robert - April 5, 2009
AND ALL HOPE IS FALSE
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
In all seriousness though I don't exactly see the point of this move
Corco - April 5, 2009
MY FAVORITE PART IS HOW BAVASI COULD DO THIS FOR FREE
Robert - April 5, 2009
HEY LET'S SEND THE BENCH TO TACOMA AND GO WITH A 16 MAN PITCHING STAFF
BrianL - April 5, 2009
WE CAN HAVE 11 CLOSERS!
BrianL - April 5, 2009
HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY LOSE
abender20 - April 5, 2009
So ummm...
……..
We’ve got no awesome starting pitchers of the future.
Any ideas on how you’re going to rectify this, Zduriencik?
ThundaPC - April 5, 2009
WELL HEY AT LEAST WE HAVE SILVA LOCKED UP
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
This is mind boggling
IF ANYTHING I THOUGHT PLAYER DEVELOPMENT WAS THE THING HE WAS GOOD AT
BrianL - April 5, 2009
EXTEND WASHBURN
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
HE HAD A SAVE LAST SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!
MFAN - April 5, 2009
There. Is. No. FLOOR!
Goose - April 5, 2009
Not to mention that we just grabbed the ceiling and pulled it down a few miles.
Teej - April 5, 2009
It was a trap door.
It’s a trap.
ThundaPC - April 5, 2009
I wondered how long it would take you jackbags to turn on GMZ
Gomez - April 5, 2009
It would've been Day One if this was his first move.
PissedMick - April 5, 2009
Isn't it fun when people 'leave and never come back'
And they come back anyway?
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
Big news warrants a guest appearance :P
Gomez - April 5, 2009
A man of his word
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
Change and evolution are great things
Wait… are they?
Gomez - April 5, 2009
At least we'll always be able to look back fondly on that five-month span when we got to pretend everything was going to be OK.
Teej - April 5, 2009
This is like the 5 month long version of the Manny rumors/Doyle trade/Soriano trade.
Goose - April 5, 2009
WHY DID WE TRADE JJ
Jeff Sullivan - April 5, 2009
We don't need 4 closers?
Three is plenty
Corco - April 5, 2009
TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE CLOSERS RETARD
DO YOU FOLLOW BASEBALL??? YOU CAN ONLY HAVE A CERTIAN AMOUNT
Robert - April 5, 2009
I'm dissapointed you choose not to go with the pun there.
Goose - April 5, 2009
MORE A TYPO REALLY
abender20 - April 5, 2009
I just emailed Tango and asked him to talk some sense into GMZ
Now I am done. I will simply tell myself that reading this post was a bad dream.
Decatur - April 5, 2009
Tony S - April 5, 2009
I'm NOT Corco
Hey man, M’s fan here in cheyenne. Your the 1st ive seen in Wyoming!
surfdiego - April 5, 2009
MAYBE HE CAN BE YOUR CLOSER
Tony S - April 5, 2009
NOW IS NOT THE TIME
UNLESS YOU KNOW HOW TO MAKE AUMONT NOT A CLOSER
Wyoming is awesome though
Corco - April 5, 2009
There is only one way GMZ can make up for this
and that’s to put together the best motherfucking draft ever this June.
BrianL - April 5, 2009
As soon as I calm down I will put things into perspective
BUT FOR NOW HE CAN FUCKING DIE
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
HEY LOOK WE HIRED ANOTHER OLD, BAD WHITE GUY TO BE THE GM
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
BrianL - April 5, 2009
WELL AT LEAST HE'S ON A FAST FUCKING TRACK
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
GOD I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS SEASON TO BE OVER!
Goose - April 5, 2009
ITS ALL HOWARD LINCOLNS FAULT STOP MEDDLING IN PERSONAL MOVES YOU FUCK PRICK
JI - April 5, 2009
OUR ROTATION NEXT SEASON
FELIX
SILVA
SHIT
FUCK
COCK
BrianL - April 5, 2009
FUCK YOU GRIFFEY
I BLAME UR OLD DH’ING ASS.
MFAN - April 5, 2009
I TOLD YOU GUYS TO NOT TRUST A STEALER FAN BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BODY LISTENED TO ME
Robert - April 5, 2009
Aumont in
Sanity over.
DKCecil - April 5, 2009
WE HAVE THE BRANDOW WEBB OF CLOSING!
Robert - April 5, 2009
WE HAVE THE BRANDOW WEBB OF CLOSING!
Robert - April 5, 2009
WOWWWWWWWWWW
Maybe, just maybe the idea is the get him the the MLB quicker
With the idea that the sooner he faces MLB hitting, the quicker he’ll improve
Maybe they think that going from an MLB pen to MLB rotation would be an easier adjustment than going from a AA/AAA rotation to an MLB rotation
I’m trying to have hope here…
mariners124m - April 5, 2009
Well that sure worked out for Brandon Morrow, didn't it?
BrianL - April 5, 2009
GOD
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
WHY DO I EVEN BOTHER
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
THE LIBRARY HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A HOUSE OF LIES
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
"WHEN WE GET GOOD, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD FOR A LONG TIME."
UNFORTUNATELY WE WILL NEVER GET GOOD BECAUSE WHAT THE FUCK
Aaron Campeau - April 5, 2009
ASK THE CLIPPERS ABOUT THAT SHIT YOU CAN FIRE ELGIN BAYLOR BUT THE SUCK GOES ON
abender20 - April 5, 2009
I KNEW I HAD SEEN THE FUCKER IN THE PAST
Robert - April 5, 2009
Because that's a totally standard development path that people have been doing for years with success
Unlike that other one
Corco - April 5, 2009
MAYBE HE HAS DIABETES TOO
Tony S - April 5, 2009
Chill out guys, it worked for Adam Wainwright
JI - April 5, 2009
ZDURIENCIK IS BENEDICK ARNOLD
abender20 - April 5, 2009
The Scariest Part
That sounds a helluva lot like Bavasi…
tait644 - April 5, 2009
Who is "we"? Lincoln? Armstrong?
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
Who knows
Maybe they called Hargrove for his opinion…
tait644 - April 5, 2009
"We want to rush the motherfucker to the majors as quickly as possible so that we completely undermine his value."
abender20 - April 5, 2009
FUCK GM AND THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRY
MARINERS NEED A BAILOUT!
Tony S - April 5, 2009
No Politics.
Fin - April 5, 2009
Pineda and Ramirez would be awesome
in long relief
marinerdan - April 5, 2009
HOLY FUCK SHOOT ME
I’M WATCHING WRESTLEMANIA 25 YEARS LATER
Tony S - April 5, 2009
CARLOS TRIUNFEL WAS TRADED FOR BRANDON LYON
abender20 - April 5, 2009
That's just not funny.
PissedMick - April 5, 2009
Damn
When I saw “Bad News,” I was sure this was the thread with a Spoiler that it is Cuddy that dies tomorrow.
Adam J. Morris - April 5, 2009
I WILL PERSONALLY KILL CUDDY WITH A RUSTY SPORK IF IT MEANS THAT AUMONT STARTS STARTING AGAIN
Corco - April 5, 2009
Michael Cuddier?
marinerdan - April 5, 2009
That would probably be good news.
Matthew - April 5, 2009
Let's not be unreasonable here please.
Robert - April 5, 2009
Fuck you
JI - April 5, 2009
NO FUCKING SPOILERS
Robert - April 5, 2009
Just to reiterate,
spoilers are not allowed. This has been a long standing policy.
Matthew - April 5, 2009
What's next? GMZ starts skimming Dominican signees' bonuses?
Decatur - April 5, 2009
THAT WOULD GET HIM FIRED SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING
Corco - April 5, 2009
It could be worse, guys
Gomez - April 5, 2009
Heh.
Hahahahaha
Kermit. - April 5, 2009
Fuck...
I thought Jeff was trolling us, I didn’t believe it until I clicked the link.
ColeFitz88 - April 5, 2009
LOUD NOISES!
ReasonableDoubt - April 5, 2009
WE GOTTA GET CORDERO BACK AND HEALTHY!!!
MFAN - April 5, 2009
I FEEL LIKE BECOMING BULIMIC IN HOPES THAT MY VOMIT GETS DRAFTED A SHUTDOWN CLOSER
Robert - April 5, 2009
You've got it backwards.
Your heart would probably get drafted as a starter, then downgraded to a closer 1-3 years post draft day.
Your vomit, on the other hand, might get awarded a 4 year $48mil FA contract to be a starter. So probably you should try the FA route, rather than entering the draft. More money, less loss of valuable materials.
misterjonez - April 6, 2009
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME
Nick S - April 5, 2009
fuck me in the earhole
Z needs to be tea-bagged…soon.
bilbo - April 5, 2009
Gorilla masked with super glue
it’ll last longer.
Willie Mays Haze - April 5, 2009
What did you expect?
This is what happens when you hire a Scout with no front office experience. He can find talent but he doesn’t know how to handle it. I hope we stock up on SP from the Bedard/Beltre/Washburn/Yuni trades
Paseman - April 5, 2009
God damn this fucking organization
Rays in 09
phil333 - April 5, 2009
I can't actually believe this is happening. It's like Jack Z just ripped off the mask to reveal Allard Baird underneath.
esoteric - April 5, 2009
I just rummaged around in my soul for any shred of excitement left about this season
I found nothing.
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
HEY RC THE KOOL-AID IS STILL FRESH AND IT'S FILLED WITH EXTRA HAPPY POWDER
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Is Kool-Aid spelled "xanax"? If so, I'm way ahead of you.
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
LETS DRAFT STAFFORD AND PLAY HIM AT LINEBACKER!!!
Robert - April 5, 2009
LET'S SLIT WALTER JONES' THROAT AND THEN PLAY HIM AT QUARTERBACK
abender20 - April 5, 2009
dude
Robert - April 5, 2009
STARTING CHARLIE FRYE PRODCUES THE SAME RESULTS
MFAN - April 5, 2009
"Fast Track"... Who the hell cares about the fast track.. Who the hell is this guy??
I thought this sonofabitch was about the future??
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
FuckYou Jack Z
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
Ichiro looked really good pitching for Japan, but didn't have the endurance to throw many pitches:
RELIEVER!
Matthew - April 5, 2009
THEN WHY OH WHY ISN'T JAMIE BURKE ON THE TEAM
abender20 - April 5, 2009
I ENJOYED WATCHING HIM PITCH
IT MADE ME SMILE
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
SAVOR THE FEELING OF SMILING BECAUSE THE NEXT TIME IT HAPPENS WILL BE WHEN CHOWARD ARMSTINK RESIGNS
abender20 - April 5, 2009
GOOD ADVICE AB
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
Wow.
This one I don’t get.
taro - April 5, 2009
It is such a short-sighted move it makes me sick.. this organization hasn't changed a bit..
What’s next, just drafting the best college pitcher available with the shortest path to the majors even if better long term talent is on the board?
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
Well, we like Strasburg, but Aaron Crow was drafted last year, which means he was ready to pitch a year sooner.
We like that.
Matthew - April 5, 2009
I CRACKED THE CODE GUYS I REALLY DID
Z MUST THINK LE START MEANS I DONT WANT TO START ITS THE ONLY THAT MAKES SENSE
Robert - April 5, 2009
EITHER THAT OR CORDEARO BANGED Z'S WIFE AND Z WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT CHAD WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIND ANOUTHERS CLOSERS JOB
Robert - April 5, 2009
Jack Zduriencik really hates Chad Cordero.
Matthew - April 5, 2009
.
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
Bunsen, why?
esoteric - April 5, 2009
Looks like GMZ.
MFAN - April 5, 2009
I figured as much.
esoteric - April 5, 2009
SQUEEL LIKE A PIG, BEAKER
abender20 - April 5, 2009
It's clearly no accident that Beaker is being forced to look at a hog during his humiliation.
esoteric - April 5, 2009
BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Wilder. - April 5, 2009
You fools! You don't understand Jack's genius!
He’s going to trade each closer for alot talent build an entire team that way!
Goose - April 5, 2009
Omar Minaya isn't THAT stupid
There are only six or seven BP spots, you know…
tait644 - April 5, 2009
that's what I honestly think he's thinking
He wants to trade JJ Putz every year for the next 3 years
Corco - April 5, 2009
Anybody else really hoping for this to be a
Geoff Baker misunderstanding…I don’t think it is but man..
marinerdan - April 5, 2009
If it was, he needs to be burned alive.
Goose - April 5, 2009
I don't want Baker to be wrong
because I like Baker, I think he’s a brilliant beat writer, I’m just looking for anything to make this decision not true.
marinerdan - April 5, 2009
There's an entire constituency of the LL/USSM readership that's desperately looking for a way to blame this on Baker right now.
esoteric - April 5, 2009
Bunch of experts on journalism...
NOT.
tait644 - April 5, 2009
If Baker retracts this, I will be so happy I won't care
Hear that, Geoff? Everything’s cool? Just tell us it was a misunderstanding and we’ll all chill out. No hard feelings. Really. Honest.
Decatur - April 5, 2009
No, he's lying. We will set you ablaze.
Goose - April 5, 2009
SHHHH
Decatur - April 5, 2009
Those quotes seems pretty straight forward...
tait644 - April 5, 2009
WE SOLVED THE ERIK BEDARD PROBLEM!!!
Robert - April 5, 2009
We did?
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
5 BULLPEN ACES
Robert - April 5, 2009
8-9 PUNCH
Matthew - April 5, 2009
Preceded by 7 kicks to the groin!
Goose - April 5, 2009
Oh. Alright.
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
4th sign of the apocalypse is
2 Canadians in one starting rotations, duh.
marinerdan - April 5, 2009
I WONDER IF THIS LUMP IS LYMPHOMA
Robert - April 5, 2009
IT MOST CERTAINLY IS NOT GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING LUPUS
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Probably.
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
I BET HE HAS DIABETES
Humongo - April 5, 2009
I bet God has diabetes and he's venting His wrath on us.
Decatur - April 5, 2009
Indeed
On a side note, a word of warning. If you are going to be doing a GIS for the above image, DO NOT misspell it as “Diabettus”. If you do, you will get the above image, and many other images you do not want.
What the fuck Google? Seriously. What the fuck?
Goose - April 5, 2009
Beat me to it.
esoteric - April 5, 2009
Holy guacamole
ew
Corco - April 5, 2009
Holy shit that's a lot of cartoon fucking
abender20 - April 5, 2009
I BLAME GMZ FOR THE CARTOON FUCKIING AS WELL
Humongo - April 5, 2009
Wasn't Kam Mickolio in the same draft as Aumont?
marinerdan - April 5, 2009
That's it, I'm taking a cab tonight. Chinese and booze please.
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
Don't bother eating just hit the bottle and go right to the rock
abender20 - April 5, 2009
That's exactly my plan.
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
New baker post up
more depression
marinerdan - April 5, 2009
ugh
Goose - April 5, 2009
Holy shit, did this guy not see the sinking fastball and disgusting slider this kid has?
His sinker is so filthy he could probably survive as a starter without throwing anything else…
But the crime is that he has a crazy slider to go with the sinker..
Z is acting like Aumont can’t throw anything but a 97mph fastball
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
Ugh
There is such a thing as two much depth at a position if it comes at the expense of too little depth at another, jackass.
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
What does this even mean?
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
Im guessing this was in response to a question about having 3 potential closers?
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
See the comment above mine for the rest of the quote
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
yea got it, thanks
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
palmface
Omerta - April 5, 2009
New Theory: Jack Zdurencik reads LL and wants to impress us.
But the only thread he read was the Chad Cordero signing thread. So he’s decided to give us more relievers!
Matthew - April 5, 2009
I THINK GMZ HAS DIABETES
AND WATCHES CARTOON PORN.
Humongo - April 5, 2009
Then I desperately hope he reads this one.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Sorry everyone >:(
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
I was getting a little concerned about GMZ's righty reliever stockpiling over the offseason
It seemed to be happening ad nauseum
I didn’t realize this is what gets him on
Corco - April 5, 2009
off
abender20 - April 5, 2009
hahahahahaha
BAHAHAHA
This from the guy who’s been excellent at drafting…
I…
just…
what?
What?
Matthew - April 5, 2009
I am starting to suspect he's not really the one in control of this team anymore
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
How would Armstrong or Lincoln make this decision?
I mean, seriously.
Matthew - April 5, 2009
Yeah, I just don't see how or why Chuck and Howard would make that call.
It’s not a pig PR move (no one outside of knowledgeable fans will care that much) and it’s nothing thats really gonna hurt/help ticket sales.
MFAN - April 5, 2009
I don't know I'm just looking for someone else to blame who has a better chance of getting fired
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
But seriously maybe he's listening to the wishes of his players entirely too much
Or going with some group consensus of retarded holdovers from the last organization instead of making his own decisions.
Because it doesn’t make sense for anyone to make this move, whether it be Z or Armstrong or Lincoln, anyone.
OlSalty - April 5, 2009
Right there with you Matthew.
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
I wonder if Z and his scouts just don't see it happening.
This move pisses me off and I want to break things, but a part of me wants to say “Hey, he’s a professional scout with a hell of a track record. Maybe he doesn’t see a starting pitcher in Aumont.”
And I doubt he made this decision without his scouts’ input. This just doesn’t add up. We’re missing something.
Because fuck this makes no sense.
Teej - April 5, 2009
On a team with no starting pitching depth close to the majors, gutting anyone with a chance at helping there makes no sense.
You can always turn him into a reliever later if the starting thing really isn’t working out.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
On the one hand I trust his judgment, but on the other Aumont is 20 years old with basically zero experience
Give the man some time!
Jeff Sullivan - April 5, 2009
Yes, but he's tall and agressive which Jack has concluded means bullpen..
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
The Mariners embrace small sample size!
Matthew - April 5, 2009
I fear people are going to draw David Price parallels (assuming he can easily just be a starter again, which is unfair because Price WAS a starter the whole way along.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Exactly
Not sure how you can make any definitive decision with a TWENTY year-old pitcher, even one based on injuries.
THere are not many excuses for this decision other than misjudgment.
This really baffles.
tait644 - April 5, 2009
Maybe Z has the same fetish for relievers that Bowden had for outfielders.
Fin - April 5, 2009
Together we're halfway to a full team!
Jeff Sullivan - April 5, 2009
Don't the Jays have some fetish for white players?
We could add that and move the M’s to the deep south.
MFAN - April 5, 2009
Won't work.
Philipe Aumont is too french of a name.
Fin - April 5, 2009
Playing left field:
Randy Messenger!
JI - April 5, 2009
Funny that the combined half should happen to be
the most fungible parts of roster construction – relief pitchers and outfielders.
misterjonez - April 6, 2009
ONLY 68 YEARS TO 100!
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Why oh why can't he be treated like Kerry Wood?
Of course he’d could be a lights out reliever. God how unbelievable would Tim Lincecum be as a reliever? Verlander could throw 100 for 15 pitches at a time. The philosophy SHOULD be “Hey kid, you’re a starter until you ain’t.”
abender20 - April 5, 2009
IT IS HUMOROUS THAT YOU MENTION TIM LINCECUM!!
Matthew - April 5, 2009
(With no malicious intent)
abender20 - April 5, 2009
You know he would've been a reliever if he were here too.
Fin - April 5, 2009
Actually, that sounds plausible.
His delivery wouldn’t hold up to a single season, let alone the six years we care about.
misterjonez - April 6, 2009
http://images.google.com/images?q=funny&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
Robert - April 5, 2009
http://highdeas.com/
Faux - April 5, 2009
Hold the phone.
Isn’t is possible that Z just wants Aumont to face big league pitching sooner, in relief, rather than later? Maybe he isn’t off his nut. Maybe he just wants to know what he has now rather than in 2010 or 11? (He’s got to get rid of Washburn and possibly Bedard in the next several months). He’s got to know what he has to replace that with. Aumont is a big guy with no stamina or diabetes issues. He could pitch in relief or start. He should start, but let’s see if he can, let’s see what he needs to work on over the winter. HE WILL BE A STARTING PITCHER. Z is not designating him to the bullpen, just letting him get some experience there. Didn’t hyphen start (sic) there? This is not the end of the world (Bavasi showed us what that looks like). Let’s give him a chance. Most of the other decisions he’s made have been quite good. We’re 0-0 tomorrow. Let’s give him a little more time.
Not Loving Batista - April 5, 2009
Wishful thinking. He is wasting valuable development time, even if you go by the idea
that they will turn him back into a starter in a few yrs
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
But, he can't be this STUPID.
Surely, he knows he doesn’t need three closers in the pen. He’s got to think that Aumont is in his starting rotation once he’s seen what he needs to be there.
Not Loving Batista - April 5, 2009
I've learned to never assume anything about Mariners GMs.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Being good enough to get three or six guys out is completely different from starting.
You can’t look at how good a reliever is in MLB, then just plug those stats in as a starter. You need more pitches. You have to have something to get lefties out. You lose a few MPH on your fastball, so you have to have other pitches to complement it. You have to have durability
- which you’re not going to have if you’ve been pitching in oneor two-inning increments for three years. You have to know how to pace yourself. Etc. Etc. These are all things that don’t develop if you’re a full-time reliever.It’s not like once he gets called up to the MLB bullpen, he’s passed the finish line and is now ready to be at the top of the rotation.
Teej - April 5, 2009
The SBN hyphen bug finally gets me.
I thought I had it figured out and it would never harm me. Oh how today blows.
Teej - April 5, 2009
Ah!
So I should probably NOT skip the strikeout lines when I’m reading here?
d0nkey - April 6, 2009
Guys who come up through the minors as relievers don't just turn into starters once they're here.
Teej - April 5, 2009
And if they do, they're No. 5 guys like RRS.
Teej - April 5, 2009
But the conversion in the other direction is easy! That's why you should always make your starters into relievers as early as possible.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
I'll give you the conversion, but he doesn't have time.
Washburn (hopefully) and Bedard are gone. He desparately needs a starter sooner rather than later. He needs to know what he’s got. Aumont is young and strong. He can adjust. He’s not Morrow or as fragile as Bedard.
Not Loving Batista - April 5, 2009
See Corco's comment below.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
How do we know he's not fragile?
He’s thrown like 8 innings in his whole life. Dude didn’t even have a high school team to play on. We know nothing about him, other than he has the potential to be an incredible starter, but it’s going to take some time. He should be given that time to see how he develops. If we tell him, “hey, throw only the sinking fastball from now on, and you’ll pitch one inning every day,” how is he ever going to learn the things he needs to learn to be a starter in the majors?
Teej - April 5, 2009
A successful major league starting pitcher needs an entirely different repretoire then a successful major league reliever
A reliever can get by just fine with one or two pitches. A starter needs 3+ to be successful.
It’s awfully hard to develop your secondary pitches at the major league level.
It worked with RRS because he already had 3 pitches. Morrow kind of did. Aumont does not.
Corco - April 5, 2009
There has to be some value in learning to face people more than once in a game as well, pitch economically, etc.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
All that too
Corco - April 5, 2009
You don't need three pitches if you have the type of power sinker that he does..
If he got to the point where he could command that thing, he could throw is 80 percent of the time and probably be very effective.
He also has a pretty filthy slider. If he spent the time in the minors getting his arm stretched out and working on command of only those two pitches, he’d be pretty damn good in the rotation.
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
Even the man who does this
also has a change, a slider, and a curveball. The man with the best sinker in the bigs throws something like 70-75% of the time. (I’m having trouble finding pitchFX data to confirm).
abender20 - April 5, 2009
80 percent, 75 percent... whatever.. my point was that he's a mediocre changeup away from
already having a devastating repetoire for a starting pitcher.
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
Webb's curveball and change have developed into above average pitches as well.
Goose - April 5, 2009
They aren't like Tim Wakefield's secondary pitches.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Webb is a beast. My whole point is that he already has two above average pitches
that obviously need to be perfected and commanded through repetition and development.
They toss an average changeup in there and he’s a top of the rotation guy. Is he Webb? No, but Webb is an elite guy.
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
That would be awesome if you were Z or some FO guy defending the decision.
I know its very hard to prove, since this is the internet, but I am just saying.
Fin - April 5, 2009
I am not Z or from the FO, but Z hasn't really f'd up yet, except for maybe Tui
and that’s only a two week mistake. Give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. Aumont can get another pitch. Aumont can see what he needs to develop in the bigs. Morrow was never going to be a starting pitcher. He doesn’t and never will never be able to sustain for 6 innings. Aumont is young and strong and I fully believe he can develop into a solid #2 starter. If he is forced to do that by 2010 that is a big positive for the M’s. I wish he didn’t have to be rushed, but that is sometimes the nature of things.
Not Loving Batista - April 5, 2009
Morrow almost threw a no hitter in his first ML start. I fail to see how he "can't sustain himself for six innings"
His move was BS too. Same deal as Aumont. Jack didn’t want to wait and gamble with Morrow when the bullpen was a disaster.
It’s all coming together now.
Rudy4three - April 5, 2009
The bullpen is a disaster because nobody in the bullpen can throw strikes..
Oh wait, more and more of them can throw strikes as more and more get added to the bullpen. Throwing strikes is important both in the starting rotation and in the bullpen. Z has to know how his prospects can both throw strikes and avoid bats. This is a rebuilding year.
Not Loving Batista - April 5, 2009
The bullpen is the only part of the roster that can be built from spare parts and bubblegum
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
Exactly. You don't need 3 closers in the bullpen.
One is enough. I think you’ve got that in Morrow. Aumont is going to be a STARTING PITCHER. And you can trade that other guy.
Not Loving Batista - April 5, 2009
And this slows his development as a starting pitcher.
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
I give up. I'm trying so hard to believe that Z is really going to change things.
There has to be a good reason for him to do this. I cannot live with another x# of years of mismanagement. Tomorrow morning we’re tied for first in AL West., and that hasn’t been the case for a while.
Not Loving Batista - April 5, 2009
Not, in fact, since last year.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
In a rebuilding year...
there’s no reason to have a shutdown closer. It’s worth losing a couple more games if it means you have Morrow in the rotation for the next four years.
PissedMick - April 6, 2009
If Phillipe Aumont is a No. 2 starter in 2010, I will give you everything I own and be your own personal slave for eternity.
Teej - April 5, 2009
It'd be absolutely worth it, too.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Agreed, if I was in to that sort of thing.
Not Loving Batista - April 5, 2009
If they made a magic "develop third and fourth pitch" mushroom that could be snacked upon in the bullpen,
then I’d be living in a world so awesome that even being a man slave could not ruin my demeanor.
Teej - April 5, 2009
Maybe they should move him to the big league bullpen as the mop up guy and make him throw nothing but changeups
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
Also, force him to warm up with about 150 pitches.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Oh wait you mean bullpen guys just throw fastballs and whatever breaking stuff they have really hard?
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
Phillippe Aumont: Pitching a complete game, three batters at a time.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
I hope you enjoy owning things
Graham MacAree - April 5, 2009
I do!
Teej - April 5, 2009
Mariner's fandom.
Bread and water, icy showers, guards whomping your ass round the clock, and the only way out is suicide.
JAH - April 5, 2009
The bleeding ulcer seems to be contagious
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
Which makes sense, as we all collectively had a sub-arachnoid hemorrhage earlier.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
I am off to rock with Chinese. I will hoist a glass for you, abender20.
royalcurve - April 5, 2009
Hoist 2, skip the Chinese.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Hah, I think it's music not food
Kermit. - April 5, 2009
That makes more sense.
abender20 - April 5, 2009
It was, yes. AC's band is called Chinese.
They absolutely shred. And I did hoist 2. Well, more than two.
royalcurve - April 6, 2009
How was the show?
marc w - April 6, 2009
Really great.
royalcurve - April 6, 2009
What a badass
abender20 - April 6, 2009
What in God's green earth if going on here?!
Make it go away! Make it go away!
Mariner Melee - April 5, 2009
Yeesh.
Damn you Seattle guys have it rough. You have my condolences.
omnipotent grab - April 5, 2009
This isn't as bad as it looks actually.
ThundaPC - April 5, 2009
Thank you. I appreciate that.
royalcurve - April 6, 2009
Mine also
But man, this thread was entertaining. And I want to thank you for that.
vince_ - April 6, 2009
We need to start a club heLL
Wilder. - April 5, 2009
What do you call this?
abender20 - April 5, 2009
Needs more .gifs
Wilder. - April 5, 2009
.
Wilder. - April 5, 2009
I am still in shock about this
Hours later and i still cant believe the M’s have this quickly stepped back into the retardation that oozed out from the bavasi yeares.
wadswerth - April 5, 2009
Not again. At least use some lubicrant!
Slica - April 6, 2009
wow, worst overreactions ever
HE WILL BE A STARTER, JESUS H TAP DANCING SON OF HOLY BURRITO CHRIST! This is 100% to manage his workload and not rush him into becoming hurt like most of the other past SP draft pics
Pebohead - April 6, 2009
Why wouldn't you just say that then?
SkipT - April 6, 2009
Do you see the words "workload" or "inning count" or anything even remotely close to that?
Goose - April 6, 2009
Yeah, it's totally obvious that he's going to be a starter, based on the completely fucking clear quotes from Zduriencik that he's not going to be a starter.
Teej - April 6, 2009
Misdirection
Jack’s playing possum.
PissedMick - April 6, 2009
"Nothing is carved in stone,'' Zduriencik said. "This is an experiment we're doing to see if we can get him to the big leagues quicker.''
And besides, you know they are going to give up on this. They are way to smart not to. Or, all you you guys can continue down the “OH NOES Z IS BAVASI TIMES 2 ZOMG I WANT TO KILL MYSELF” path
Pebohead - April 6, 2009
you heard the man
continue!
marinerdan - April 6, 2009
The fuck?
JLC - April 6, 2009
I don't know why all y'all are trippin;.
Aumont’s Inverted Q is a huge risk factor.
Aaron Campeau - April 6, 2009
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