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Biggest Contribution: Jarrod Washburn, +66.9%
Biggest Suckfest: Jose Lopez, -20.3%
Most Important AB: Johnson single, +9.4%
Most Important Pitch: Casilla groundout, +12.5%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +77.0%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -27.0%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
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Question Jeff

I feel like sometimes with the WE chart you make corrections to the FG data, on errors or defensive plays and the like…did you give Gutierrez (or Cedeno or Yuni) credit for any of the plays they made behind Washburn?

Nope
Someone should maybe take that upon himself as a project.
Was this something you've done in the past

Or am I misremembering?

I used to do it a long time ago but decided it was entirely too subjective to continue
Once Hit F/X comes around...

Couldn’t you use a system giving partial credit for plays based on the probability of that play being made (like advanced defensive metrics, if I’m not mistaken) and make a sexy fielding-inclusive WPA?

ehh

Not worth the effort.

I was just gonna ask this.
Biggest Contribution: Jarrod Washburn

It’s like Backwards Day at school!

Small sample and all that

but Yuni’s showing some agility in the field that just was not there last year. I know you’ve already made not of it (was it the Silva start?) but its worth reiterating.

If Yuni plays above average defense this year it’ll be worth an extra win for the team at least. The outfield was projected to be awesome and is so far as advertised. Beltre is still great, Lopez will be /-5 runs, Branyan/Sweeney/Shelton also. If Yuni can recapture some of that 0<x<10 magic we’re looking at a .500 true talent team (I’m assuming Clement is back with the big club come May).

If Yuni plays above average defense this year I will eat my hat.
You should buy a nacho hat
Nacho nacho man...
I want to be a nacho man.
It's not at all improbable

see Jeter, Derek.

When was the last time he played above average defense?
He played average defense last year after posting a -18 season
Putting up average defensive numbers over the course of one season isn't the same as playing average defense.
same goes for putting up miiserable defensive numbers

and Yuni’s only got one season of that, to go with three seasons of average.

Sure, but Jeter still looked bad and Yuni looked bad in 2007 despite being only -2.8.
Yuni started airmailing throws to first in 07 but I don't remember him looking bad

he was also just a touch below average by PMR and RZR. Maybe your memory betrays you?

I remember him looking worse than I expected

however I expected greatness, so “worse” could’ve easily meant average.

Yeah that was basically the year we realized that we didn't have

a magic Cuban baseball bunny hopping around every which way scooping up grounders but a pretty much normal player with a tendency to throw well wide of first. But he wasn’t bad. Specifically, I remember him ranging way out into left field to grab shallow flies Ibanez couldn’t get to.

I remember a noticable dropoff

but as Jeff said below he was so awesome before that it’s possible that a huge dropoff means below average.

The BIS based metrics don't think he was ever exceptional

and I think we may have been charmed by a handful of flashy plays. All the same, I think a slimmer, more focused, scared for his job Betancourt can possibly end up in the 0 – (+)10 range.

Yuni has looked bad since 2006.
For what it's worth, PMR doesn't think Yuni was so awful last year

they have him at -10, which may seem bad at first but the range is 35 to -30.

SBN ate my plusses

wtf. And you had made a note, as opposed to a not, of Yuni’s defense.

Yuni did a fine job of making a not of his defense all by himself.
Damn, missed this game.

Wish I could have seen those stellar defensive plays that everyone is raving about.

Jarrod Washburn +66.9

Holy shit…

It's gonna be funny as hell when

Jarrod and his 10-6, 3.13 ERA self gets traded for a top-50 prospect later this season.

Can't complain that we've got 6 games against the Angels this month

5 of those with Ichiro back, and three of them should be Felix/Bedard starts. Angels should have Saunders, Weaver and Loux pitching most of them. Here’s hoping we can go 5-1 in those series.

None of our games against the Angels next week feature Felix or Bedard

The best we can hope for is that they’ll both go against Anaheim in the latter series of this month.

I realized after I posted that I miscalculated

It’d be nice to skip Wasburn or RRS after the day off Monday to shift things a bit but whatever.

I'm hoipng Jakubaukas starts on Saturday, EriKKKKKKKKK on Sunday then Felix Tuesday.

Or something along the lines just not Silva on the home opener please!

They'll pitch Silva for the home opener because they are almost guaranteed a sellout.

The games will not sellout and you want your biggest draws when attendance isn’t guaranteed.

The games after*
This would be fantastic =)

especially if Felix goes on Friday

I was looking at the schedule

to see if I would get to see Felix or Bedard when the M’s are in town at the end of the month, and I think it comes out to being Bedard on Friday, Silva Saturday, Washburn Sunday. Or something worse.

Your job must take up the vast majority of your valuable time.
In terms of hours committed

I think I go personal life > blog > sleep > day job

Where's beer on that list?
His woman didn't make the list either
Pretty sure she's all of "personal life"
I do have a friend
That's part of the graph?

hmmm

Included in all four actually
As it should be
Split with Ichiro out?

I’ll take it

Is there any single game that better illustrates the point from this offseason

of “a run saved is as good as a run scored”?

I sure don’t think so.

Rec'd because I was going to say that myself!
A run saved is as good as a run scored

Should have been the new slogan for this team. Fuck a new day a new way.

Technically it is a very new way
That picture is priceless!
I like how in the background the bride is just sitting there looking sad.
That's because she's 16
re: Wak's 9th inning defensive adjustment

I thought this was a fantastic move, even if the benefit was marginal. It made me wonder if or how often other AL managers have made the move to forfeit their DH in late innings for the sake of an unforced defense adjustment.

Just seeing Wak make that move gives me hope that Griffey won't be seeing much outfield this season.
CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That's so dirty
yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes
I think I missed something.
The Little Engine that Could?

Possibly.

Still one of my favorite new memes this year

Every time I talk to someone about the Ms this year, the idea of the Mariner train goes through my head. And now I have a picture. Weeeeeee goes the insanity…

Trade value!
Anyone have a .gif/clip of the Gutierrez dive?
=

Gutierrez hurts this team by....diving?

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