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16-19, Chart

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Biggest Contribution: King Felix, +51.0%
Biggest Suckfest: Brandon Morrow, -87.1%
Most Important AB: Balentien double, +9.5%
Most Important Pitch: Davis homer, -69.1%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -24.3%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -25.7%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
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This might be my favorite chart of the year - although the competition is pretty fierce.
Like that thing would ever erupt.
Maybe give it some Pixie Stix.
I got Vesuvius all over me.
soda water will take that right out
I was just going to lie in the fetal position and suffocate

but soda water seems easier.

and less suffocatey

but potentially more drowney. Pick your poison, I guess.

Part of me wants to work this into a cocaine joke just to see is LSB is stupid enough to try trolling again.
Well now it's ruined if you do
You think they're smart enough that me announcing the plan would deter them from getting in another tizzy?
I was amazed that it even worked yesterday
Stupidity is predictable and undeterrable
it's like the river, it just keeps on flowing
All the unfound dark matter in the universe is actually just human stupidity.
Let's see if this works again

Everyone on that site is a fag.

And they all do cocaine
.

This is what I love about LL
Blow it out your vag.
Is that where Josh keeps it?
Who snorts coke off little boys
I do!

oh wait, that wasn’t a question

I thought that's what Hamilton did
All the LSB commenters are bigger faggots than Mike Young and Mike Young takes it up the butt and likes to dress up as a twelve year old girl and blow Vietnamese buisnessmen and pays to preform such a service.
Too conspicuous.

I think they could see right through that bait.

Way to recycle material.
That's the whole point
You respond like I am not just purposely trying to antagonize you.
Please be more civil
Your self-righteousness upsets me as it disrupts the harmonious fabric of my inner peace
I bring a conciliatory offer of goodwill

Thank you for the humility you have shown in this gesture of goodwill
HUGS!

I can't see this thread any more through my tears of happiness
I don't think it's working
I think it's starting to!
Give it a sec!
Brett Hull cheated
Well, that one is totally true though.

How is that baiting?

Some of the students at the Baylor College of Medicine smell bad
I'm struggling here
Colt McCoy wears assless chaps to boys night
Texans got thoroughly killed at The Alamo.

It’s not that hard, see?

Where the fuck is Robert
LLLJ
It's not my fault I don't have a gif of the damn Romo play
It's sweet when he's missed.
Arlington is the Tacoma to Dallas' Seattle
Or the East St Louis to St Louis', uh, St Louis

this is more challenging than it seems it should be.

I really respect your effort here.
Umm...we all agree on this.

But Arlington also happens to be in between Ft. Worth and Dallas (and close to a few other city/suburbs)

I almost moved there!
That's more like Ft. Worth.

Arlington is more like Everett.

You take that back.
OK, more like Kent.

Better?

Take that back!
Hmmm...

…that is good to know. Thanks for the heads up!

Look out for Arpita
That sounds like...

…either a great Greek snack or a cause for lots of deodorant.

Mmm, but the beer still tasted amazing out of the Stanley Cup!
I brought this on myself
Yes, yes you did.

Not that I really want to get into a flame war, but I figure I can at least force you to be more creative/effective with your baiting.

I'll be more creative when I get home from work

Right now I have to come up with something witty in between supervisor fly-bys.

Shiner Bock is overpriced ass for people that don't know what good beer tastes like.
Shiner Bock is a better cheap beer...

…than Budweiser and Coors.

But St. Arnolds is the best Texas beer anyways…

Who on earth drinks Budweiser and Coors?
Softball players

And I think I saw Jamie Foxx drinking one in a commercial a few years ago.

Well...Amuhricans?

Also, people with a need for large volume of beer and not a lot of dollars?

Not all of us are lucky enough to have Newcastle be the local swill.

The British version of Bud isn't Newcastle, it's Carling
Agreed.

Shiner Bock for a buck a bottle in Austin bars? When usually the dollar beer is something like PBR or something else nearly as undrinkable (basically, drink it while it’s cold and hold your nose)? Sign me up, please.

Exactly.

It took me a while to understand why people would drink Bud Light or Coors Light…you WANT to water down that “flavor”.

It kind of worked
HAHA actually funny
Not as funny as that time Josh Hamilton tried to snort his own dandruff
There could be an opportunity here

Someone should try and get Hamilton, Morrow, and a baggy of caster sugar in the same room and see what happens

Masturbation is a sin Matthew
Wheeeeeeee.

Mariners win expectancy charts would make the most awesome roller coasters ever.

And somewhere

Chad Cordero smiles.

I believe that would be in Peoria, AZ.
Player BB sucks.
God I'm glad today isn't my Birthday.
Otherwise Torii Hunter would have hit that home run somehow?
I'm just being a dick to a certain LL pal.
I bet some cocaine could really help me mellow out right now.
I just made coke brownies. Help yourself.
Word of advice - pour out some lines of milk. Those things are rich.
I thought that was powdered sugar!
Cocaine's a hell of a drug

Wow, glad I missed this one.
I checked the score in the 8th, when it was 2-0

and I thought, ok, Felix is due, this should be in the bag now. Boy, was I wrong.

I'm enjoying Morrow being a full time closer.
Jesus catfucking Christ, I didn't even realize there was a game on.

And now, I’m thrilled to have missed it.

Brandon Morrow to the salt mines, please.

You mean to the DL?

For Diabetitias.

Apparently Diabeetus leads to suckitis.
He needs to get a new testing kit then

Needs more Morrow in the picture.
and less

dude from walker, texas ranger

More Morrow?

I love the subtle 187.
What.
Can Morrow go back to starting, please?
So, you prefer losing the game in the 3rd inning as opposed to the 9th?

I suppose there’s merit in no hope as opposed to false hope.

So, uh.

We just got CG’d by Matt Harrison.

Good thing that the one thing all our suckass hitters are good at is hitting mediocre LHP.
He did just throw a complete game shutout aginst the CHW his previous start

but I understand the logic

Let's put it this way...

Jarrod Washburn also is pitching well over his last several starts.

And yet I am fairly sure I would keep Harrison

over Washburn

Right before 3 starts ago the Ranger pitching coach finally got him to change his approach and dramatically quicken his pace in game. He was on the verge to losing his rotation spot to Derek Holland. Looks like it worked. The difference is night and day.

That and Texas installed Teagarden as his permanent C
How are you not banned after that boob gif?
That's because Harrison isn't going to cost anyone millions of dollars.

89-91 MPH mediocre heat, fast worker, flyballer, left hander? Hi, meet Jarrod Washburn, or any other number of finesse lefties.

you do realize he is 6th in

Average FB velocity for LH SP this season right?

91.2 vs. 88.3

pretty huge difference for a lefty. I don’t think he totally falls into the finesse category. That would mean Johan Santana, Erick Beddard, Wandy Rodriquez and Scott Kazmir all fall in the “finesse lefties” catergory since they have a lower average FB velocity than Harrison.

Does Harrison actually have any secondary stuff?

I haven’t paid him any attention at all

change is OK, slider is getting there

He is a guy that tops out a #3 starter initially based on scouting reports, but it seems like he has finally figured how to use both sides of the plate and more importantly is willing to throw inside.

That Texiera deal was an absolutely fleecing.

I'm not sure you should get your hopes up until he faces a real offence
CG SO of CHW the game before...

and a 5 innings of SO ball before that…

Not entirely for sure what happened. He went for being Dr. Jeckel/Mr. Hyde last year to looking like he got some thing figured out.
 Most of it it hink has to do with really learning to pitch

Harrison had an ERA around 3 last year in his W and an ERA around 13 in his losses and ND.

It is not like the kid doesn’t have the stuff, being consistent has always been problem. The 4th inning was a pretty good example of what would happen last year as a whole. He would bust guys in for most of the game and then fall in love with trying to get guys to chase away and stop throwing inside.

CHW are not a good offence
ERA is not a good stat for judging pitchers
Also, duh. Pitchers will have good ERA in the wins and bad ERA in their losses for the most part.
you would be really suprised how the spread between

wins and loss ERA’s fall.

2 runs, 3 runs feasible or even 5 runs but 10 runs is not. I am having a hard time finding guys that have a spread over 5 or 6.

Roy Halladay about 2 runs difference. Washburn in his horrbile season las year had a 5, Bedard last year a 3.5, Felix a 3.3. Washburn’s rookie year was a 4.2 spread

But a number around 10?

The best examples I have found with a sample size of 15 or more starts as a rookie have been Fransico Lirano, (10+), Kershaw (7+), Phillip Hughes 6.5, J. Saunders (22!), Rich Harden (10) …

Humm, this might be a real interesting large scale study. I am having a hard time finding guys that had such dramatic splits that have totally disappeared.

Well trchinally all of the current metrics have thier flaws

tERA, FIP, ERA, all have their detractors, and the funny part, they all fall along the same lines this kid.

he is almost like Wandy Rodriquez in his ability to be absolutely frustrating at times and then other times amazingly brilliant. More than anything else, he is a guy that needs or maybe needed to learn hiw to really pitch and not throw.

Wasburn is well past that part of his pitching education. Trying to compare the 2 is asinine.

Interestingly enough he seems to have taken a step backwards this year
So Jarrod Washburn burst forth upon the earth fully formed in 2009? Or 2005?

Jarrod Washburn had a career BEFORE he became a Seattle Mariner. As a matter of fact, he even had a better fastball in his 20’s than he does now, as I recall.

You’re trying to turn a guy who was striking out 6-7 guys per 9 IP in the minors into a top-of-rotation starter. Erik Bedard, as a minor league pitcher, and one of your comps, struck out 11 guys per game through HIS minor league career, and has a MLB strikeout rate per 9 IP of 8-9.

It has nothing to do with K rates

and I am not trying to turn the guy into a top of the rotation pitcher. You are the one who said he was a finesse lefty. He is not. He has above average FB velocity for a LH SP. Thats it.

He is a pitch to contact guy. That doesn’t make him a finesse pitcher, or an extreme GB guy, or a strike out guy. He pitches to contact. He doesn’t live off of his off speed stuff, he doesn’t try to strike everyone out, his goal is to get you to get yourself out.

The fact that the other guys named had a slower average velocity doesn’t make them finesse lefties either. It is more to prove the point that thinking his velocity and Washburn’s are anything close to being similar.

tERA?

What is that?

Taking tRA and multiplying it by .92 to get it on ERA scale which makes my head hurt
This might be helpful; I asked Sky for number clarification. Read the subthread I posted in.

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/5/13/873952/top-10-overrated-starters-in-2009#comments

Forgetting velocity for a moment

Matt Harrison throws fewer than 60% strikes and misses fewer than 5% bats. He might have some potential in there, but to date, he’s been awful.

And yes I understand that this means our offense is worse than awful but hey, no shit
The unbridled Harrison optimism

is coming from a nice stretch of pitching by him that follows a terrible, terrible stretch. Rangers colored glasses show that he turned a corner, skeptics say it’s just luck, I’m assuming/hoping that it’s somewhere in between.

I don’t think anyone is claiming Harrison is a solid “no. 2 starter”, there’s just giddiness from him not being a flaming pile of suck.

If he turned into Jarrod Washburn, that's not too bad.

Really, a career where you get a couple of pretty good seasons when you play behind a good defense and over 100 MLB decisions is pretty damned good. I think we’d be quite happy if Ryan Rowland-Smith had that kind of career (and even more so because unlike Washburn, RRS isn’t mostly an unlikeable douche).

Agreed.

Especially considering the pricetag.

Against shitty offenses!

Wow, no fucking wonder.

So, this is a guy who struck out 6.5-ish guys a game in the minors, walked 2.5ish

He IS getting more grounders right now. (Then again, so is Washburn).

I still am not buying he’s particularly awesome. You can’t gauge how good someone is by how they perform against a struggling offense like ours.

Hey look! I see the cellar approaching!

Worst to first! First to worst!

Sun setting in the Easy! Rivers flowing uphill!
There is no floor
Having gotten up to speed here, I'm just amused now.

Grimly amused. Once again, I root for two terrible teams.

The Nationals would be happy to trade Proven Closer Kip Wells to the M’s if they want someone to replace Morrow!

Chad Qualls is likely available!
Wow, I left after the 7th and this happens.

God I hate the closer role.

Over the past 2 games...

Morrow is -1.5 win expectancy.

WOW.

Also:
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -24.3%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -25.7%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%

The rangers did not win this game…we lost this game.

I think you're misunderstanding what those numbers mean

All that means is that the Rangers didn’t commit any errors that helped us along.

Man, are the M's really 4.5 games out now?

That was quick.

And we have an easy homestand coming right up to help!
Hey Ervin Santana is back
And Lackey starts Saturday
At least Bedard isn't injured again.

…um, nevermind.

So I've given it some thought

and after everything that’s happened since March, I am about 90% sure that the clubhouse hates Brandon Morrow by now.

I cannot tell if I am angry or sad by all this.
He could always try being better
=(
Big news out of camp. Moments ago, I spoke to Brandon Morrow after he’d thrown a bullpen session and he told me (and Shannon Drayer and Tim Booth of AP) that he plans to be a full-time closer from now on. Not just this month, not just this season. For good.

"I feel good about it,‘’ he said. "I feel back home.’’
Home is where the heartbreak is.
I wonder if Sweeney sticks his foot out when Morrow walks past him.
Sweeney pies his face.

With real pie.

Wouldn't that kill him?
Death may improve his pitching at this point.

see Raul’s spasming corpse : outfield defense.

You can't walk people if you're dead.

Or give up game-losing walkoff HRs.

Then he helps him up and tells him to go with Christ
Is that a nice way of telling Morrow to go get himself crucified?
Too soon....
Good.

I am currently drawing up plans for a gun that shoots Skittles. I’m going for enough velocity to penetrate the flesh, but not so hard that they pass straight through.

There are no tastebuds there!

How can I taste the rainbow?

I didn't get to see the game today..

But can anyone tell me how many innings Felix pitched?

And I hope to god the answer isnt 8..

Seven, and he was good
Despite the brief panic caused by Pitch F/x's FAIL
Was his pitch count high?

I don’t see why, if he is pitching so well, they wouldn’t just let him earn his own win..

Of course it probably is better to bring in an 8th and 9th inning reliever.

110 or so pitches.
No, but Hamilton was.
haha
I love that you joined SBN yesterday and the screen name "rangers" was still available.
He spelled it properly.
ya everyone at lone star was amused by that
seattlemariners also available
how about "mariner"?
Stop it

I will get confused. IU already have a hard enough time telling myself from seattlesundevil and seattlecougar

All seattles look alike.
So the difference between 19-16 and 16-19 is Brandon Morrow

You got what you wanted, kid.

Oh, wait, it's all Wak's fault.

because he is calling every pitch from the dugout.

I’ve got to change the channel.

I'm sure Wak called for Brandon to throw the suck pitch.
That's a hard pitch to master, too.
If you stare at it long enough it looks like it goes faster and switches direction

I'm wondering how many LL readers we've lost to seizures.

A moment of silence for our fallen epileptic comrades.

In my head, enjoying this and the gremlin gifs are mandatory for anyone who wants to thrive on LL
That and not having epilepsy, altough I guess the presence of the former precludes the presence of the latter.
Ah, the epilepsy-inducing factor here is... uh, whoa

Ian Curtis-esque.

Is it still baseball season here? I can’t watch these fuckers right now. Because why?

I hate the gremlin gif
Youk's new picture is just awesome.
Curse you, Jeff!
Or it stops
Don't stare at it that long
Mine never stop
That's because you keep believing.
I think LL really did cause me to have a migraine once
I think LL gives Jeff migraines every day.
IT'S TOO POWERFUL!
From the Yahoo (AP) recap:

Brandon Morrow: "I’ve got to start mixing pitches. I’m acting like a pitching machine out there."

The pitching machine comment couldn't be further from the truth
Pitching machines usually throw strikes
I didn't see any ping pong balls flying from his netherregions, so i have no clue what the fuck he's on about
Shannon Drayer asked Felix about his velocity after the game
First off, I was right. Felix’s velocity being down was game plan. I flat out asked him, why not throw 96-97 to these guys today. Okay, so I set him up a little, but good answer anyway.

“A couple years ago I was a thrower, not a pitcher. Now I am a pitcher. I located all of my pitches today. I don’t want to throw 97 in the middle. I just want to go at the corners and throw my two seamers. They have a pretty good line up and you have to locate your pitches. Michael Young is a great hitter, you see that, two hits against me but if you get the other guys out it will be fine.”
Jesus if he can shut the Rangers down in Arlington at while sitting at 92 mph, he can do anything.
That is nice to hear from Felix.
Just finished watching the 9th inning.

The funny thing is I am apathetic to this recent skid. I guess it must be because I haven’t watched a game in a week. If I invested more time, I am sure I would be more frustrated.

The only person I feel sorry for is Felix. And Bedard. And Vargas. And Washburn. Seriously, the starting pitching has been great this season. The offense and the bullpen are annoying.

Is it okay to root for Morrow to continue to fail in the hopes it reverses this whole asinine closer idea.
It's not going to be reversed.
It's FOREVER.
Then can I root for him to fail out of spite?
I guess but you'd think the closer would be the last guy you'd want to see fail
True, but if I'm rooting for it when it happens I don't feel like I just got kicked in the junk.
Let me put it to you this way.

When JJ failed as a starter, he was able to be converted into a great reliever.

When Bobby Ayala failed as a reliever, he… well, got released.

Not soon enough!
When Bobby Ayala failed as a reliever, he… well, got released.

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