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23-26, Summary

This whole slide that the Mariners have gone into headfirst got me thinking about the future. I entertained some thoughts of making the playoffs back when they were playing well and leading the oddsboards, but once the slump hit, I was struck by how readily I conceded the season and turned my eye to 2010. One could argue that it was just a defense mechanism, that after past experiences I was protecting myself from disappointment, but realistically, their odds haven't been real good for a while, now, and given everything that's happened in May it's safe to call this team a longshot. And so it was that we came to this weekend with me fully expecting a few losses to trigger the sell-off.

As such, I wasn't really prepared for this. Not only did the Mariners win; they won somewhat comfortably, after having countered John Lackey with Jason Vargas. When I thought about the effects this weekend could have on the season, not once did I consider the possibility that the Mariners could sweep, and while that's obviously still a long ways away from happening...what if? It's something we should probably think about. Lose the next two and we're toast, but win the next two and all of a sudden the M's are even with the Angels, and Zduriencik will have a tough time pulling the trigger on anything that makes us worse in the here and now.

Thinking about a sweep is almost annoying. Only a Mariners fan would say that, but it's true, because I've eased the pain of the last few weeks by saying it's good for the big picture, and thinking about getting back in the race pushes that off to the side. I hate vacillating on stuff like that, and wins like tonight's aren't helping matters. This team needs to figure out what it is so that the rest of us can adjust our expectations accordingly.

I guess there's not much sense in talking about the effect of a sweep unless we actually sweep. For now, it's just one win. But it's a good win, a win that blows some air over the dying embers of the season. I suppose we'll just have to live with the inconvenience of a wishy-washy year for a little while longer.

This was a weird start for Jason Vargas. Statistically, it wasn't very good, as he neither missed many bats nor threw many strikes, but he never really felt like he was in any danger until the bottom of the seventh. I'd guess that's mainly a perception thing based on the fact that he was getting a lot of quick outs. Quick outs create the illusion that a pitcher's in control, and that's exactly how it felt for six innings tonight. The Angels were taking some good swings, but because Vargas only needed 74 pitches to get through six frames, the game just felt comfortable. I don't know that it should have, but there you go. It helps that two of the three line drives the Angels hit off Vargas over that span were caught, with Bobby Abreu's turning into a double play in the sixth. Put those runners on instead of calling them out and it might've been a different ballgame.

Nevertheless, Vargas instilled confidence in interested onlookers until a bit of a struggle in the seventh. Maybe he was tired - I'm still not used to thinking of Vargas as a guy capable of throwing 100 pitches a start - but three consecutive baserunners knocked him out of the game and forced him to rely on Sean White to protect the lead (which he did). Vargas probably wanted to put up another seven-inning start, as that would only boost his case for remaining in the rotation, but honestly, I have to think the team will look at his low ERA and leave him be. He hasn't pitched nearly as well as his run prevention would suggest, but he looks to be a better bet at this point than Olson or Jakubauskas, so he needn't worry. He's done his job, and he's done his job well. That Putz trade was a damn fleecing.

The offense, meanwhile, sprinkled just enough competence into the bowl of batter to finally come away with something other than the usual batch of retarded macaroons. For the record, though, I wouldn't be too proud of the three-run third. That inning was built off of the following events:

1) bloop single
2) bloop single
3) single on an 0-2 curve in the dirt
4) four-pitch walk where Lackey totally lost his command
5) 40-foot infield single
6) opposite field sac fly in an at bat where Griffey swung at three balls

It was a sustained rally, but it wasn't impressive, and I don't even know that it was all that fundamentally sound. It was just a string of chance occurrences with a handful of decent swings and one single that only Ichiro could hit.

Later on, though, the lineup looked better. The M's in the sixth inning used the right combination of Branyan power and smallball to push across an insurance run, and the eighth saw Branyan and Jose Lopez hit back-to-back homers to left to knock Lackey out of the game. Now, of course, they didn't each get credit for their homers. Only Lopez got credit in the box score. But they both hit the ball to the same exact place, so it seems silly to reward one player while penalizing the other. As far as I'm concerned, Russell Branyan has 12 God damn homers, and I don't much care what Juan Rivera has to say about it.

Seriously, though, I think this about captures my reaction during the whole sequence:

Me: YES! Branyan!
Me: wait
Me: no he didn't just
Me: OH JESUS CHRIST
Me: OH JESUS
Me: OF COURSE THE FUCKING ANGELS PULL THAT SHIT OUT OF THEIR ASS
Me: THEY PULL IT OUT LIKE IT'S FUCKIN NOTHING
Me: HOW THE FLIPPITY FLOP DO THEY KEEP ROBBI
Me: whoa
Me:
Me:
Me: ahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha
Me: What?!?
Me: baaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha

It was among the most improbable sequences of events I've ever seen in a baseball game. Maybe it even tops the list. And though on the one hand I think it's funny that Lopez's homer off of Rivera's glove left Angel fans unable to enjoy Rivera's amazing catch for even thirty seconds, a big part of me wishes that Rivera had been able to come up with the second one as well. Some things are just so historically significant that you find yourself having to root against your own team's best interests, and this was one of those things. Maybe not so much at the time, but definitely in retrospect, because the sheer odds of hitting two consecutive fly balls to the exact same place beyond the left field wall are so unthinkably slim that having the outfielder come back with them both in his glove would be the equivalent of Juan Rivera telling probability to go fuck itself sideways and then giving it a dismissive wanking motion as it turned around and left. This was Rivera's chance. This was his chance to carve his name into the stone tablet of baseball lore. But misjudging Lopez's fly by a couple inches means that he'll instead have to live with making the season-ending highlight package. Robbing one home run is awesome. Robbing two home runs back-to-back is the stuff of legends. Way to blow it, Juan. I'm sorry for him that he couldn't do it, and I'm sorry for me that I couldn't see it.

The five runs proved to be enough. Branyan took back two of the four bases he lost by catching consecutive line drives in the bottom of the eighth, and though Aardsma again made a lot of people dizzy and nervous, he was able to slam the door with an 0-2 fastball to Mike Napoli that was too high to crush. It was both the perfect pitch and a dangerous one, because while its location couldn't have been better, Aardsma isn't exactly known for his pinpoint command, and missing a few inches lower would've given Napoli a good shot at tying the game in an instant. But whatever. The pitch was good, and it ended the game. The Mariners limited their number of head-slapping fuck-ups, and in the end they had a shiny new win to show for it.

Tomorrow, things get interesting. The M's are still three games under .500 and two back of the Angels, but with Felix going up against the laughably nondescript Matt Palmer, there stands a real chance that come 9:30 we'll either be cursing at Felix for pitching like an idiot, or looking ahead to a chance of a sweep. Felix Day can be so dramatically hit-or-miss.

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So, Vargas is probally pitching over his head now, but how what could be expected of him going forward?
Tough to say

Every time he pitches, I keep expecting a crappy start, and every time he’s pitched, he’s gotten great results.
The guy’s a lefty soft-tosser with a tRA over 6, and a repertoire/approach that looks identical to Ryan Feierabend’s.

I think everyone expects plenty of regression, and it’s just a case of how much. I’m enjoying the hell out of this, in part because it’s weird and in part because it seems to balance out what’s happened to the Jakubaustrich. More seriously, I think the thing to look at might be Vargas’ slider. Through 27 IP, it’s basically been the best pitch in baseball by linear weights. His FB has been better than Erik Bedard’s so far (which is ludicrous), and all of his pitch results will regress, but if his slider is something like an out-pitch to lefties, well, that’s something that should allow him to limit big innings.

I've really liked what I've seen from his changeup

and he seems to be really comfortable throwing it. Secondary stuff isn’t Vargas’ problem. It’s probably the fastball and the mediocre command that’re going to hold him back from really being anything special.

Definitely.

Again though, I’m trying to figure out what he’s doing that Feierabend couldn’t do.
Feierabend had better command, and at times a change that was pretty close. His FB got annihilated, whereas Vargas’ has been extremely good.
I can’t figure out why this would be.

Contact, fly balls, and a mediocre K/BB

Try not to let his ERA fool you, because he’s not very good. But #5 starters aren’t supposed to be very good. He’s just a guy we could slide into the back of the rotation for free and not be embarrassed about it.

Who do you think is better, Vargas or Olson?
Oh God

uhhh

Olson has a higher ceiling?

"we'll either be cursing at Felix for pitching like an idiot, or looking ahead to a chance of a sweep."

Or, Felix pitching like Felix, Palmer pitching like the nondescript that he is, and the Mariner bats go back to struggling.

I'd say #3 was rather impressive.

Otherwise, this is pretty funny:

“My stuff tonight felt as good as it’s been in a couple of years, honestly,” Lackey said. “I had a really good two-seamer. I’m still not really sure how I gave up three in that one inning, but that’s baseball. You’ve just got to keep making pitches and try to give your team a chance to win.”
"As such, I wasn't really prepared for this"

You and me both!

OT: Cards Fan Here

There has been a lot of chatter in Cardinal land about trading for Beltre. Than I noticed he isn’t hitting at all this year. I was just wondering if you guys thought he was just unlucky or just looks lost out there.

Thanks

A little bit of both, actually.
He's looked better lately but he hasn't been good.

I don’t think he’s totally lost his ability to hit though, so I wouldn’t sour on him. He’s just in a nasty slump.

Both

Although it looks like he’s finally coming around. Just a really bad stretch he’s had to battle through.

Nobody cares about the Cardinals.
His BABIP is a bit lower than his career average, so that's due to regress

But that doesn’t fully account for how bad he’s been.

Safeco has always destroyed him

I don't think New Busch is particularly kind to RHBs either.
Seems like a stupid decision given their franchise player.
Schumaker is a lefty
The Mariners won 116 games after losing A-Rod
It looks about average Park Factor-wise.

http://www.statcorner.com/team.php?team=SLN&year=2009&leag=N_L

It looks pretty symmetrical too.

But you watch alot more Cards games than I do, so is there something I’m not seeing that makes it harder on righties? I can’t figure out how to find lefty-righty splits for home games (and an also remember the Sexy People saying somewhere that that’s not the best way to go about understanding park factors anyway).

Word around the campfire is that the ball just doesn't carry to left

but I’m no expert on park factors

I can't help but notice Joel Pineiro has a 3.19 tRA
I can't but help notice that there's a gaping hole to the underworld from which the minions of hell are streaming.
Pineiro has been worth 1.9 wins this year. Felix has been worth 1.8.
He is a groundball machine

His #2 seamer/sinker pitch has been having good break and movement. He is locating it regularly also. He believes in the Dave Duncan style of pitching to contact

It seems completely sustainable too.
It is a pretty neutral park all around

Suppresses home runs some what though

For the record

we’d appreciate it if you’d ask this as a separate FanPost, rather than going off-topic in a front page thread.

Sorry about that

I thought it would be the other way around. Not worthy of a fanpost but ok in a front page thread.

Fanposts are for OT stuff.
Or more accurately, we have an OT fanpost.
Great, well-written summary.
So if we're gonna take a guess at predicting Vargas's future role, what are we guessing?

Is he a fourth starter? A fifth starter? A middle reliever? Where do you guys think he belongs?

He could survive at the back of a rotation
How long before he's up for arbitration?

It’s a little unclear from Cot’s, since he missed all 2008 while still being under an MLB contract.

Based on those numbers, eh's around 2 years of service time right now.

Meaning he’d be eligible after next season, assuming he spends most of next year and some more of this year in the majors.

Why not let him stay where he is?

He might have done things in a difficult manner, but he has gotten results. I am the side of the fence that says leave him in the rotation til he pitches his way out of it. I mean hey, they let Silva pitch his way out of Double A rotation before doing anything, lets allow the guys who are doing well the same courtesy. At least thats the way i see it.

I agree with your conclusion on Vargas.

But the results with the most predictive value (many hard line drives and deep flyballs, few strikeouts outside of the A’s and Giants games) haven’t been especially encouraging. But that’s fine for a back-end starter.

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