Biggest Contribution: Franklin Gutierrez, +33.1%
Biggest Suckfest: Felix, -42.6%
Most Important AB: Gutierrez homer, +25.5%
Most Important Pitch: Davis homer, -26.7%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -34.6%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -15.4%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
(What is this chart?)
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Needs more Kata
>:(
JI - May 4, 2009
How seriously do we take Felix's bad pitches/start (?) with the flu and all?
I mean, he was still missing bats like crazy, so it didn’t seem so bad.
Robert Lintott - May 4, 2009
I'm not particularly concerned
His stuff looked terrific.
Jeff Sullivan - May 4, 2009
That's what I thought, but the HRs always worry me.
But it seems like Texas always kills us. One of my earliest Mariners memories was losing a game in ’94 thanks to then-Ranger Canseco going yard a couple of times. It set a patter early in my life, and now Texas HR-fests seem normal.
Robert Lintott - May 4, 2009
He was due to allow some home runs
he’s now up to a pretty standard ~9% HR/FB.
Jeff Sullivan - May 4, 2009
Awesome.
Thanks for the insta-analysis, as always.
Robert Lintott - May 4, 2009
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the HR to Davis did come on a fastball right? I was too busy failing to catch it to check the velocity.
It seems strange to me that Adair goes out and talks to Felix about how to get Davis, a guy he’s K’d twice with almost exclusively breaking stuff, and then he starts throwing the guy fastballs. Is that one on Felix, or Adair?
BrettJMiller - May 4, 2009
His HR was on a curve.
But Davis has crazy power.
Vatinius - May 4, 2009
Why did they have him hitting 8th?
Mariner John - May 4, 2009
Ron Washington is kind of dumb.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
Because they can
they’re the fucking Rangers. A guy with crazy power for them is like a guy who can make crazy contact for the Mariners.
Bearskin Rugburn - May 4, 2009
But David Murphy
and Andrus hitting 2nd.
Mariner John - May 4, 2009
And I found it
Fuck Canseco. It was this game. Anyone else remember that?
Robert Lintott - May 4, 2009
I remember it.
Texas and home runs have always been a pain. Expecially at The Ball Park in Arlington and the Kingdome. I don’t approve/appreciate them at Safeco at all.
Sinking Away - May 4, 2009
From looking at Gameday
The pitch to Young was a fat slider up in the zone, so that was a bad pitch that he just destroyed.
The one to Davis actually looked like a good curveball and just a nice piece of hitting.
I was at the game but am shit for pitch recognition on balls in play, so I was curious to pull up Gameday when I got home.
Of course I am not a pitching analyst, and Jeff’s note about HR/FB is also relevant.
appleshampoo - May 4, 2009
Worth noting that Young even took Felix the other way
Jeff Sullivan - May 4, 2009
And I could've just scrolled to here.
Whoops
BrettJMiller - May 4, 2009
I'm sick of losing.
At least last year it was sort of fun, chasing SS and all.
katal - May 4, 2009
Every teams gonna do it, and were only 26 games into the season.
C-Nage - May 4, 2009
Sarcasm?
It was a tough loss, but come on now.
BrettJMiller - May 4, 2009
Chris Davis really killed us tonight.
C-Nage - May 4, 2009
I'd like to think that someday I'll learn to handle losing gracefully
Graham MacAree - May 4, 2009
In my 15th year of doing this, it still eludes me
Though it’s easier to forgive Ichiro than almost anyone else for the last out.
Robert Lintott - May 4, 2009
I'm in 'blame Felix' mode rather than putting anything on our offence
They did all that could reasonably be expected from them.
Graham MacAree - May 4, 2009
I'd like to be
But a pitcher gets a terrible start every now and again. Erik got his last week, now it’s out of their system for the month. At least that’s what I’m trying to tell myself.
Robert Lintott - May 4, 2009
I'm sort of in "blame Felix flu" mode.
He wasn’t in top form, but I thought the offense could have saved him. Millwood was not Cy Young. If they could just learn some discipline. He threw a lot of pitches across the plate. Why couldn’t we hit any for runs in the first four innings?
Sinking Away - May 4, 2009
You need to culture a facade of studied ennui & sangfroid, like Jeff has.
esoteric - May 4, 2009
Yep, especially since
ralphie81 - May 5, 2009
Total Contribution by umpires: -97.4%
gregrabble - May 4, 2009
More bad strike zones?
Mariner John - May 4, 2009
Johjima hit a ball to short to leadoff the bottom of the 9th
Andrus dove for it, threw from his knees and and “got the out.” I thought he was safe. Also, the throw may have pulled the first baseman off the bag.
Snowman1025 - May 4, 2009
Holy flaming buttholes did he look safe.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
Not only that, Davis pulled his foot
JI - May 4, 2009
I have never booed so heartily.
It really was not even close to being close.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
This was a tough one.
Felix won’t make excuses for himself, but he was feeling under the weather and I’ve got to think that led some of the hits he was giving up. Also, he threw too many fastballs that they had to know were coming. He got his share of Ks, but most of the hits came off of stuff that looked pretty easy to hit, especially the homerun to Davis.
The offense was actually more impressive than yesterday, if you didn’t watch the first four innings. During the first four, Millwood was looking very good against a bunch of batters who have no plate discipline. Although, with the number of strikes he threw, you would think some of our free swingers would have caught a break on one of them. And then they did. But it wasn’t enough tonight.
The ninth was frustrating due to the bad call at first on Johjima. That cost us the game. Gutz’s hit was no surprise (he is very disciplined and doesn’t appear to be scared when he’s down in the count). The Yuni walk was a welcomed surprise. I’m hoping that Wak talked to him and finally told him that if the 3rd base coach signals for him to take a pitch, he has to take a pitch. Yuni must know that Silva is in trouble, and maybe he knows he is too. I sure hope so. I hope this means he knows he’s on a short leash and if they need him to take a pitch, he needs to do that. His defense isn’t keeping him in the game and his offense is just offensive. Swing, popup and swing GIDP just really aren’t very productive.
Bedard can erase this tomorrow. So we’re still OK.
Sinking Away - May 4, 2009
Hm.
Credit to drizzle for the pic.
iorange555 - May 4, 2009
What exactly is that supposed to show us?
DAMellen - May 4, 2009
that texas won the game and not the umps?
iorange555 - May 4, 2009
Hey! So you're a troll!
Neat!
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
Technically he's correct in that it was a very close play and we had an iffy call go our way in the previous inning
Jeff Sullivan - May 4, 2009
Well technically but you damned well that's not what he's trying to do here.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
Excuse me.
For sharing a picture that might serve as a closer look at the play for you all to judge. I’m deeply sorry for trolling.
iorange555 - May 4, 2009
It doesn't serve to do a damned thing.
Seriously, it’s totally inconclusive. Nothing about that picture is illuminating to anyone. He looked safe at the park but I’m willing to entertain the fact that he was out. And in the end, it doesn’t mater because that probably wasn’t the difference in the game in the least. But the manner in which you pulled that picture out quite clearly serves to annoy Mariners’ fans and it’s not like this is something new from LSB commenters.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
On the replay he was clearly safe
JI - May 4, 2009
He was pretty clearly safe at the stadium as well.
It wasn’t especially close but it’s not like it matters.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
You got me.
I knew I shouldn’t have colored my hair neon green.
iorange555 - May 4, 2009
Well this comment makes absolutely zero sense and so I think I'll ignore you now.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
I believe he is referring to the dolls in a lame attempt at humo(u)r.
Mariner John - May 4, 2009
Those dolls haven't been relevant since 1993.
Good job Texas.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
Know is supposed to be in there somewhere.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
Don't know how I am a troll.
But sure whatever.
iorange555 - May 4, 2009
You posted a picture that shows absolutely nothing in the post game wrap-up thread at the losing team's blog.
That seems pretty damned trollish to me.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
All that shows is that Davis caught the ball while Kenji's foot was still fully on the bag
gregrabble - May 4, 2009
Here's my best attempt
Incredibly close. Slow motion makes Kenji look safe, but good luck finding any umpire who’s going to see that as any better than a coin flip situation.
Jeff Sullivan - May 4, 2009
I don't think slow motion is fair to the umpires
Umpires don’t have slow motion
JI - May 4, 2009
They should just swallow a fuckton of Barbs before every at-bat.
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
Saying "he's out!" at LSB=cool.
Coming to LL to say the same thing (with no track record here)=fucking annoying.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
In addition to the photo being of the ball in the glove as well as Kenji's foot on the base.
Only serving to show that he did, in fact, catch the ball.
CapSea - May 4, 2009
Did I ever say he was out?
I posted it with only “Hm” as the subject line to let you all judge. Stop being such a fucking baby. good lord.
iorange555 - May 4, 2009
Relax
You couldn’t possibly have expected to get a positive response. How did you think people were going to react?
Jeff Sullivan - May 4, 2009
I guess I expected too much.
iorange555 - May 4, 2009
I'd ask you to be more passive-aggressive but you might break my scale
Jeff Sullivan - May 4, 2009
How is your scale not calibrated for me?
Matthew - May 4, 2009
Why doesn't my car's speedometer go up to mach 3?
Jeff Sullivan - May 4, 2009
Should've bought an Aston.
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
Motor vehicles measure their speed in miles per hour.
JI - May 5, 2009
I don't know, I guess you just didn't think it was important enough to pay the extra fee?
Matthew - May 5, 2009
What, did he get over Matthew?
Graham MacAree - May 4, 2009
Hmmm...
“that texas won the game and not the umps?”
If your intention was simply to have us “judge for ourselves” then why bother with this comment that, quite frankly, caused this sub thread to blow up to begin with?
ThundaPC - May 4, 2009
Because
DAMellen asked. It’s not a big deal.
Texas won.
Seattle lost.
I’m a troll.
iorange555 - May 4, 2009
awwww
JI - May 5, 2009
I've seen tinier.
Matthew - May 5, 2009
Shit.
I rightfully left myself wide open here.
Matthew - May 5, 2009
Insinuating that you're pathetic is a dead meme
Jeff Sullivan - May 5, 2009
Preemptive defusement!
Matthew - May 5, 2009
See, I was going to make a reference to Tony S' play on the Jason Vargas photo from yesterday
and just post the same pic JI just did, but with a smaller width, therefore making it a tinier violin. But instead, I left the first comment too ambiguous.
Matthew - May 5, 2009
You all should just go ahead and make the really obvious small penis jokes and be done with it.
Matthew - May 5, 2009
But your penis is resplendant and magnificent
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
heterosexual
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
It's just what I heard from Matthew's legions of ladyfriends
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
Rawr
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
I'M NOT GAY
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
Aren't two thirds of them just guys that look like preteen girls?
Robert - May 5, 2009
I look older than preteen you rascal
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
Dude it's cool it's only natural to compare and contrast.
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
I often feel the need to look twice just to make sure that I see it all
Robert - May 5, 2009
This thread is hidden right?
Robert - May 5, 2009
Why are new people posting in this subthread if its hidden
Robert - May 5, 2009
Who, like me?
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
AHAHAHAHA
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
No, that's okay.
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
I disagree
Robert - May 5, 2009
That is what she said to me about my penis!
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
I have heard that your wonderful attitude toward small children and injured animals more than makes up for it!
(Also, my auto fill in suggested the following phrase after two words: “I have no idea why it would be doing that but try putting in” I am not sure when I ever typed that before and really really don’t want to go searching for it)
Matthew - May 5, 2009
Hat-tip: Me
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
My attitude towards small children and injured animals is amusingly enough related to my original comment.
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
They're delicious?
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
That females talk about them w/r/t your penis?
Matthew - May 5, 2009
This bracelet around my ankle is not in fact related to my Gypsy heritage.
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
I wish I knew what this even meant.
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
Ac's hitting on Matthew again
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
Do I ever stop!
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
Hey buddy my proud Quebecois heritage insists that you capitalize that C right this minute.
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
I am a registered sex offender!
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
(Not really.)
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
It's more fun playing defense anyways.
Matthew - May 5, 2009
You're telling me.
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
Youhave to get caught first!
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
hide hide hide
JI - May 5, 2009
Ohhhhhhhhh.
Got it. I read “bracelet” and I think girly bracelet.
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
Apparently it's a sex offence to have your cock classified as a weapon of mass destruction
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
That paperwork is exhausting, too.
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
This is the first time in LL history that someone has taken advantage of a golden opportunity to compliment the sexual prowess of a fellow commentor.
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
It's part of my attempt to rebrand him as a kinder gentler Matthew.
Robert - May 5, 2009
Matthew Beta.
Matthew - May 5, 2009
Ex-nay on the nerd talknay
Robert - May 5, 2009
Bahaha.
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
ntalk?
That’s not a word, Robert. And it’s ix-nay, not ex-nay.
Whatever will I do with you.
Matthew - May 5, 2009
After I am finished shaping Snuggles Carruth you can teach me how to pick up crazy mad bitches
Robert - May 5, 2009
.
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
This is roughly how I imagine it going
Robert - May 5, 2009
where's g
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
Do I look like a home wrecker to you?
Robert - May 5, 2009
I looked at this four times before I saw Jeff.
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
Don't worry the girls in the picture had the same problem
Robert - May 5, 2009
It will be a dead meme by Thursday.
Matthew - May 5, 2009
Surprisingly enough I am quite alright with my cock being huge becoming a dead meme.
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
Party pooper.
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
It's better than your cock being dead as a huge meme
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
Man, tell me about it.
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
They don't tell you about the side affects when you order it
and my the time they kick in you’re so addicted to the results that you go into denial.
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
Maybe she was being quite ironic and your dong is quite enormous.
JI - May 5, 2009
duh
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
In which case
That’s what she said!
(to me)
(because it means “Big dong”)
JI - May 5, 2009
?
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
What the hell happened in this subthread
Jeff Sullivan - May 5, 2009
Rawr?
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
Decompression from a frustrating loss is my guess.
Matthew - May 5, 2009
I'm sick of these inside jokes
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
Give us a inch and we'll take a yard
Robert - May 5, 2009
Matthew had penises on the brain and it degenerated from there.
JI - May 5, 2009
My bad.
ThundaPC - May 5, 2009
I've just found an exclusive picture of Josh Hamilton's rehab assignment:
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
That facial hair is inexcusable.
royalcurve - May 5, 2009
Money is so filthy dirty.
He can’t afford a straw? I thought he was a little better at this.
Big Jared - May 5, 2009
Dude get with it that's a money straw.
It’s a straw made out of money.
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
Very close but you can clearly tell in that picture that he's safe
It seems closer in slow motion though. Oh well – tough break, let’s go out there and beat the shit out of Padilla tomorrow
gregrabble - May 4, 2009
OH! I get it - this is supposed to show us his foot was on the bag.
Regardless, the argument is that Kenji was also safe (which is implied by his knee already bending on the base when the ball is about to be in the glove of the 1st baseman).
CapSea - May 4, 2009
More accurately:
Graham MacAree - May 5, 2009
This is, of course, the only credited response.
esoteric - May 5, 2009
I saw Cedeno in the dugout
I thought he died or something.
Snowman1025 - May 4, 2009
Well that game was awesome and terrible at the same time.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
Losing always sucks
But this was at least a fun game to watch. Gutz is an amazing player to watch right now, just thinking about his value is amazing.
If Ichi just gets a LD there instead of a shallow fly…damn…
appleshampoo - May 4, 2009
I hope this game doesn't scare Felix into throwing more fastballs.
They hit a couple of pretty good breaking pitches, and one in particular for a HR. He also threw some pretty bad pitches but holy shit it’s fun to watch him when he’s mixing it up.
Zwakamatsu - May 4, 2009
So as awful as that loss was
the Yuni walk was my favorite moment of the season so far.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
I screamed out laughing.
When the 3-0 pitch came in as a strike, I was 100% sure that we were going to have one of those “foul off a few more pitches then pop out” at-bats. Amazing that his first walk came at that point when failure looked so incredibly inevitable.
Teej - May 4, 2009
There was a big jumping hug pile in the OF seats.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
I'm still happy about it.
royalcurve - May 4, 2009
Yes and no.
Since it doesn’t reflect on him being any better, I was kind of hoping he’d go 0-fer all season. Or, if he was going to walk, do it in the bottom of the 9th, tied with the bases loaded.
But yeah, it was pretty hilarious. I think that was the most new comments on LL I’ve ever seen pop up at once. The black bar that shows new comments almost hit the top of my screen.
CapSea - May 4, 2009
It was definitely funny in a resigned to failure sort of way.
Aaron Campeau - May 4, 2009
I dunno, for me it showed a small glimmer of hope that he might become a little more patient
I might be a fool though
gregrabble - May 4, 2009
Yeah, I think so dude.
Sorry homey.
CapSea - May 5, 2009
In 23 games, Gutierrez has a .303/.384/.461 slashline with 10BB/16K and an .844 OPS
If he did that a whole year and keeps up his good defense, he’s an MVP caliber, 6 win player ( +20 batting, + 15 fielding, +25 replacement) – based off a quick glance at Grady Sizemore’s value stats. He’s almost certainly not going to do that, but an average wOBA gives makes him a 4 win player, and his ceiling (probably a .350 wOBA) makes him a 5 win player. Right now, at least, he looks like the second coming of Mike Cameron. And he’s a smart player in every aspect of the game, as the Sexy people and Dave Cameron have so pointed out.
Decatur - May 4, 2009
He's so pretty it's difficult for me to think of him as smart.
Kermit. - May 5, 2009
He'd need roughly 750 PAs to get a +25 replacement boost, and that's not so likely
5.5 wins would probably be more realistic in this case. But holy fuck, 5.5 wins?! weeeeeeeeeeeee
seattlebruin - May 5, 2009
I wish we had an Elvis Andrus.
Goose - May 5, 2009
I'm skeptical of his success to this point
but yeah, me too.
Aaron Campeau - May 5, 2009
We did in 2005.
His name was Yuni, if I recall. Wonder what happened to him?
Decatur - May 5, 2009
decided to get in touch with his inner monkey
seattlebruin - May 5, 2009
We never had a guy draw 54 walks in high-A ball at age 18 and play great SS defense.
To be fair, we had a guy draw 45 walks split between lowA/High A at age 19 with above-average defense, but who the fuck wants that when you’ve got Oswaldo Navarro around?
marc w - May 5, 2009
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