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15-12, Game Notes

A gust of wind howls through the orchard as a man sits motionless by a window, watching the sunset. There is a knock at the door to the study. A man in a suit quietly enters the room.

Butler: Sir.
Butler: Sir, I think there's something you should know.
Butler: The Mariners and Rangers are playing in extra innings today, and-
Butler: See, the Mariners are in first place right now. This is an important game for them.
Butler: One of their relievers just got hurt, and...
Butler: And they brought in Denny Stark.
Butler: Sir?
Butler:
Butler:
Butler:
Cirillo:
*sigh*
Cirillo: It's time.

  • The only thing worse than having to bring in a replacement-level reliever to face the Rangers in the tenth inning of a tie ballgame is having to bring in a replacement-level reliever who's fatigued. Stark threw 16 pitches against Oakland on Sunday and 17 pitches against Texas last night, and while that doesn't seem like too much of a workload, his average fastball velocity was 92.5mph over the first two games and 91.5 today. On three occasions he threw his heater below 90 today after not doing it in his previous two games. His first eight fastballs averaged 90.0, making me wonder if he didn't get enough of a warmup, which wouldn't be much of a surprise.

    I'm sure Stark isn't the guy Wakamatsu wanted to bring in, but with Batista and Vargas presumably unavailable after throwing a lot of pitches on Sunday and Kelley getting himself all bollocksed, there wasn't anything he could do about it. We were in trouble the minute Kelley fell down. There's no way you can turn to a below-100% Denny Stark against the Rangers in a tie game with any kind of confidence, and we wound up taking it straight on the chin. It's a miracle that we nearly escaped that inning in the first place.

  • With Kelley likely going to the DL and Morrow unavailable until Saturday, the next three games could be all kinds of uncomfortable. And if Kelley's oblique issue is serious, then all of a sudden a whole lot of eyes are going to turn to Josh Fields. Kelley occupies a critical role, and I'm not yet ready to trust Miguel Batista or Mark Lowe to fill it. 

  • Last time he took the mound, Erik Bedard couldn't locate his fastball, and he got himself into a whole heap of trouble. Today he was able to put that all behind him and pick up where he'd left off the start before. He threw strikes with 72% of his fastballs and 67% of his curves, missing twelve bats and generating five pop-ups on 20 balls in play. Aside from the fastball that he left out over the plate against Nelson Cruz, Bedard was virtually flawless today, and his K/BB now stands at a magnificent 6.5. Let this ease any concerns you might've had last week. Bedard isn't going to face many better lineups than the one he saw today, and he destroyed it. 

  • If you're able to forget that it preceded the final 15% of the game, David Aardsma's strikeout of Ian Kinsler in the ninth was one of those fantastically breathtaking moments you don't get in any other sport. I'm sure I'm not alone when I confess that I don't trust Aardsma to throw a strike when he has to, so watching him get squeezed on pitches #2 and #4 and fall behind 3-1 just about made me spit fiery blood like a hemorrhagic dragon. The 3-2 foul ball was also a bit of a bother since in my head I figured Aardsma only had so many strikes left in his arm. Just when I was doubting him the most, though, he piped pure venom down the heart of the plate, challenging Kinsler to a battle of power on power, and Kinsler swung right through it in such a way that I was reminded of that Morrow game in Texas a couple years back. The thing about Aardsma's blend of velocity and inconsistency is that he'll end up throwing a lot of stressful pitches, and today, that made his finish all the more enjoyable. I screamed at work.

  • Jose Lopez is damn lucky that both Adrian Beltre and Griffey are struggling, because Jose Lopez hasn't done shit. 

  • Sometimes an o'fer isn't just an o'fer. Franklin Gutierrez saw 24 pitches in four plate appearances and swung at just two of 13 pitches out of the zone (all three of the called strikes against him in the tenth, by the way, were balls). Though he went hitless, Gutierrez had a successful day at the plate.

  • Sometimes an o'fer is an o'fer. Yuniesky Betancourt saw 14 pitches in four plate appearances and swung at nine of 12 pitches out of the zone. Yuni had a miserable day at the plate.

Silva and Ponson tomorrow at 5:10 in a matchup of two of the worst starting pitchers in baseball. The Royals, incidentally, have a better record than we do.

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Comments

What the heck happened to Kelley?
Strained his oblique
Our bullpen fucking sucks now

):<

Plus nobody likes a smartass
Noooooo

I had a strained oblique once. It hurt like a mofo, lingered, then when I thought it was over, it started hurting again.

You should start writing your own novels and create a site called jeffsullivan.com
Ponson keeps the kids loose.

So, Silva goes 9 innings no matter what, then?
Silva's gone 9 innings four times in his life.

And each time was ugh, even the 8-hit shutout and 11-hit, 2 BB shutout - plus the other two times.

What were the scores of those games?
Click on the links, but 6-0, 10-0, 2-3 (11 inn), 7-1
Thanks I didn't see the links when I asked
Whatever happened to Gary Glover, anyway?
Only because after he gets shelled in the first 3 innings,

he will be immediately turned into a long reliever, and come in to complete the job.

"just about made me spit fiery blood like a hemorrhagic dragon"

This is magical.

Denny Stark pitching for the M's in 2009

That’s still mind boggling.

Let the

battle of fat pitchers who never were good, but somehow people thought they should be, begin!!!!

Ponson was good before 2004.
Is Wlad hitting well enough to justify playing him every day?

Partly in LF, partly as righty DH? His approach and plate discipline has looked outstanding (up there with Junior Endy, Branyan, and Gutierrez as the best on the team) and he’s only struck out 5 times. I’m starting to think he’s legit.

I wish he was a lefty. :(
As a righty it will be easier with him to platoon at DH, if necessary.

And if his approach really is legit, he can be in left field on days a LHP is starting, allowing them to keep Endy for a late inning defensive replacement. His defense has looked far from abysmal, at least so far.

But all of that hinges on the differences we’ve seen (improved offense and defense) being real, and though I am a huge Balentien fan, I’m not convinced of that yet.

Can somebody please explain the whole Cirillo thing to me?
He was Jeff's favorite Mariner and he's still dangerously obsessed with him.
He was an underrated player his first year here. LL was one of his lone champions
Jeff is smart enough to realize that just because a player isn't all you'd hope he would be it's better to stick with him than turn to some random scrub from AAA.
Underrated how?

Projection relative to production? He kind of fell off a cliff here. Sure he wasn’t as bad as he was here, but he was clearly bad. If ever a player went from star to gone, he was it. I JUST had someone tell me he was good after he left here. If “not as bad as he was here” means good, then sure. He was a 5+ Win player once who went the way of the dodo at the wrong time (for us).

This is why you shouldn't start dripping sarcasm when new people ask valid questions, guys
He has 1700 comments and LL didn't exist in 2002.
Also, depending on how you adjust for park and credit defense

Cirillo was nearly a league average player in 2002

I fucking hate you guys
Hahahahahahahahaha

Oh shit, I just actually read the Cirillo bit, freaking GOLD!!!!

It causes "Firey Blood tm" to think that he was acutally good once.
Denny Stark was part of the group we traded for Jeff Cirillo
I was wondering how that makes this Cirillo's fault but then again I don't care because fuck Jeff Cirillo's crazy ass.
Cirillo hated Seattle, wanted revenge, and used Stark's re-appearance to activate his evil malice machine
I don't understand how you could be as awful as he was and cost as much as he did and be angry about people not liking you.
But then again he is fucking batshit insane so there's that.

We went from Cirillo being a 12 year cutter girl to Spiezio being a speed freak nutjob to Beltre being cosmically boned and appealing his own check swings. Do they paint the third base line with fucking angel dust or something?

I like Scott Spiezio
He's still fucking Looney Tunes.
No freakin' shit he's crazy.
I miss Russ Davis...
People hate to blame themselves

Especially crazy people.

I accept this explanation.
Not to be all Royals homerific, but...
Silva and Ponson tomorrow at 5:10 in a matchup of two of the worst starting pitchers in baseball.

Ponson’s tRA+ is 91, which over the last two years has been the average tRA+ for a #4 starter. That’s not good. In fact, that’s decidedly below average. But it is anything but one of the worst starting pitchers in baseball. He is one of the worst starting pitchers in baseball if you go by ERA, but I was pretty sure Lookout Landing was beyond evaluating pitchers by ERA, no?

Snippitty snap!
I thought we were also beyond evaluating pitchers based on the sample size of one month?
Certainly

And his average projected FIP (wish I had projected tRA’s) is 5.00, which over the last three years has also been at the level of a #4 SP.

Just do a 1-2-3 average of yearly tRA+ or something
It's astonishing that anyone takes seriously anything they read at LookoutLanding.com.

Ponson had a 3.3! tRA in a rehab start at AAA Syracuse just last year and no one here has even mentioned that. That 3.3 tRA is an entire 2.1 tRAs lower than the 5.41 tRA that bucket of shit CC Sabathia continually puts up for the Yankees. Shame on you, Jeff Sullivan, for once again completely ignoring the wood for the trees.

I never pictured Jeff as being one that ignored wood.
His tRA+ since 2005 is 83 and he's completely stopped missing any bats

grounders are all he has left.

Does anyone else think it's even a little weird that tRA gets talked about outside of here?
No.
Actually yes since you let Robert input the data for Σtatcorner
I only messed up once that we know of!
That wasn't even the IBB bug
Not really.
What's weird is that someone is using tRA while questioning whether this site is beyond using ERA to evalutate pitchers.

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