Seattle: 30-30
Colorado: 28-32
| MARINERS | ROCKIES | EDGE | |
| HITTING (wOBA) |
-41.4 (29th) |
9.8 (11th) | COL |
| FIELDING (UZR) |
7.1 (10th) | -10.2 (23rd) | SEA |
| ROTATION (pRAA) |
16.6 (7th) | 19.5 (6th) | COL |
| BULLPEN (pRAA) |
-9.8 (25th) | 4.5 (10th) | COL |
| OVERALL(RAA) |
-27.5 | 23.6 | Colorado |
The Rockies really are not a bad team, as you can see from the summary above, but man alive has some bad luck and atrocious defense combined to make them bad. It does not help to be playing in the same division as the runaway Dodgers.
Game 1: Jarrod Washburn* vs. Ubaldo Jimenez
Game 2: Erik Bedard* vs. Jason Marquis
Game 3: Jason Vargas* vs. Jason Hammel
The Colorado hitters have been mashing against lefties so far this year, but they have also been facing National League left handers. This is the big league now boys! You've never seen anyone like Jason Vargas before!
Considering the Rockies line up is mostly right handed, the nature of Coors Field in and of itself, the vast expanse of outfield and the flyball-ness of the three lefty starts that we are tabbing in this series, I would consider it imperative to run out the best defensive outfield that we can. Early whispers are that Ken Griffey Jr. is going to be making some starts in left field. So, Jack... do you want to trade Washburn? Like, right now? I mean literally, do it right now. Before he starts tonight.
Ubaldo Jimenez has been a consistently with solid strikeout numbers and good ground ball rates making up for a touch of wildness. His extra success so far this year rests on his only two home runs allowed so far. He's not this good and it would be fun to see Branyan go all regression on him.
Coming off three really bad years in St. Louis in which he posted tRA+s of 85, 85 and 69, Jason Marquis signed perhaps the dumbest three-year, $21-million contract ever with the Cubs. It was unfathomable how dumb that contract was based on past performance. It makes the Silva decision seem conservative and financially wise. Unlike Silva, Marquis somehow pitched up to the contract, posting tRA+s of 99 and 98 with Chicago totaling $15.1 million in value and then he was dumped off to Colorado for Luis Vizcaino in a salary move. All Marquis has done is get even better in Coors, now with a tRA+ of 106.
Jason Hammel was terrible as a starter in Tampa Bay and pretty damn bad as a reliever too, but he has been fantastic in Colorado, throwing strikes at an absurd rate given his career tendencies. As such, his walk rate which used to hover around 9% is now down to 6%. That is quite a marked improvement.

Ten FIDY
Oskar Blues Grill & Brew. Lyons, CO
Do not be afraid of beers in cans. Be afraid of shitty beers in cans, of which this isn't one. This is the blackest pour I have ever seen and it comes with an aroma of smoke, roasted malts and dark chocolate. The taste showcases the malts that give way to a little alcoholic/bitter kick fading into a slight coffee/bitter taste which quickly mellows.
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Rockies fan here...
over from Purple Row.
A couple of comments:
The Rockies’ lineup has five lefthanded bats much of the time—Fowler (switch, but better left), Helton, Hawpe, Stewart, and Gonzalez/Seth Smith…so it really isn’t mostly right-handed. I’d go the opposite way actually. The thing that has helped the Rockies is that Hawpe, Stewart, and Smith have had very good reverse platoon splits vs. LHP.
However, we do have a couple of hot righty bats in Barmes and Tulowitzki as well as a heavily underrated Iannetta behind the plate. Ever since the Rockies benched the horrible Garrett Atkins, we’ve gotten better production across the board.
As for pitching, Marquis has been pitching over his head and Hammel’s success has mostly come on the road. I think you’ll be surprised by just how good Jimenez’s stuff is though…he’s going to be really good, and soon (he’s got 2.2 WAR so far this year).
In addition, there are quite a few fine microbreweries in Colorado, most namely New Belgium (Fat Tire, Sunshine Wheat, etc.) if you’re interested.
Here’s our scouting report on the Mariners. Feel free to enlighten us if we’re wrong in our evaluation.
Jeff Aberle - June 12, 2009
They're likely to be running out a mostly RH lineup against our LH starters.
I am quite aware of the beers in Colorado.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
T/F:
Oskar Blues>Avery
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
F
I think Oskar Blues is slightly better at the top end but they have nowhere near the depth of Avery.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
I can ride this trolley.
I will say though that for every style both brewers make I prefer the Oskar Blues version.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
Yeah, pretty much. It's just that OB only makes about four things I like
TF, OC, Gordon and Dales whereas Avery is around 10-15.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
We are in agreement.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
Avery also gets bonus points for making some holy fuck beers (>15% ABV) that are good.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
Sweet mother they made an oak aged sour cherry Imperial stout that was 16%.
They only produced eight gallons :(
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
Damn it.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
That's a quarter of a barrel!
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
I have sketched out my next three beers and for one of them I am thinking ramping up a brown ale
with a lot more malt and then port barreling it.
I was turned off by oaking by my first attempt, but in retrospect, trying to drink it right after bottling was too optimistic. Two months later and it’s quite good. And by latest batch gives me proof of concept in terms of my ability to high ABV (11%) brew.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
You need to start your own brewery someday.
Sec 108 - June 12, 2009
Maybe, someday.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
I'll sell it for you.
Sec 108 - June 12, 2009
*beerery
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
That whole Beast/Meph/Sam series is shockingly drinkable and delicious
Jeff Sullivan - June 12, 2009
Likely lineup may sub in Spilborghs for a LH outfielder...
and maybe Atkins at 3rd. However, considering that Stewart has a much better OPS against lefties and his hot streak, this might not happen. The fact is that the Rockies’ bats are mostly left-handed (Spilborghs and Atkins are the only right-handed bats off the bench that they use).
Jeff Aberle - June 12, 2009
New Belgium is a microbrewery?
They must be paying a lot of OT to the line operators.
waldo rojas - June 12, 2009
By the industry accepted definition of microbrewery not even Oskar Blues would qualify.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
And they shouldn't.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
How much do they produce?
marc w - June 12, 2009
~20k barrels were estimated to be produced in 2008.
So they might fall under the heading of microbrewery used for tax purposes (I believe it is 50,000) but not for practical purposes (which I believe is 15,000.)
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
Last time I took the tour, they said they were classified as "Hand Crafted Regional"
frightened inmate #2 - June 12, 2009
Don't take this the wrong way but not knowing about New Belgium is like not knowing about Sam Adams.
They’re as broadly distributed as anything that doesn’t get advertised during football games.
Oh, and we’ll go toe to toe with you on pitchers outperforming their peripherals. Unsustainable HR/FB? Silly strand rate? Small sample size dominance? you name your stat, we’ve got the big dog in that fight.
Bearskin Rugburn - June 12, 2009
Living in Colorado, I wasn't sure how widely NB was distributed...
consider me educated.
Jeff Aberle - June 12, 2009
It's pretty dang common
it’s not bad beer, at all, but it’s not exactly “micro”. But any brewery that sponsors cool events like this is awesome by me.
pdb - June 12, 2009
Some of it is bad.
Sunshine Wheat, Blue Paddle, Mighty Arrow and Skinny Dip (obviously because fuck light beer) are all bad. The rest is decent—>good.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
I don't mind Skinny Dip so much
but the only time I’ve really had it was after a 100 mile bike ride in 94 degree heat last year, so I could have been drinking refrigerated lighter fluid at that point and it would have been blissful.
pdb - June 12, 2009
I can see it being good on such an occasion because anything heavier might give you the heaves.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
You get 1554 up there?
I think that’s the best NB
frightened inmate #2 - June 12, 2009
We get everything they make.
Lips of Faith is the best New Belgium I’ve had but 1554 is probably my favorite of their regular line.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
FYI: LoF is a series
Matthew - June 12, 2009
I'll be jiggered.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
The Kriek is not so impressive.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
Up to 7 now, I think
Bottleworks had 3 of them on the shelves today.
Relatedly, if you’re into sours, the New Belgium Bottleworks 10th Anniversary Ale is amazing.
serotonein - June 12, 2009
It appears that this beer was had and not shared with me.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
I've yet to figure out how to share beer over the internet
It’s on tap at both Brouwer’s & Bottleworks, though.
serotonein - June 12, 2009
Oh, sorry, that wasn't directed at you.
I’m sure I can find it, I’m just also sure that I was close to having it.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
Don't they make Mothership Wit also?
I like that one.
Thingray - June 12, 2009
Yes, Mothership Wit is a great one.
Its organic too, if that means anything.
Fin - June 12, 2009
Disagree on Arrow, which I think is good-ish.
Sunshine is meh the other two I find decent-ish
Matthew - June 12, 2009
Interestingly enough I don't mind Mothership
which is bizarre.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
Shockingly, I'm with Matthew on Mighty Arrow
though I agree with ac that blue paddle, skinny dip, sunshine wheat are bad. Fat Tire is pretty bad.
Incidentally, I don’t mind the idea of light beer, so I don’t hate skinny dip on principle. I actually had sort of high hopes for it, which tasting it quickly dashed.
marc w - June 12, 2009
I have a hard time calling things bad unless I actively cannot drink them.
Jerome Rubia, Anchor Small, Harpoon Rasp UFO, etc
Matthew - June 12, 2009
Hmm. Maybe a semantic argument.
I don’t have a problem with calling a beer ‘bad’ if I would prefer 90%+ of all other beers. I would drink Blue Paddle over coffee or, I don’t know, Midori any day, but I think ‘bad’ has its uses to distinguish certain kinds of beer from others.
marc w - June 12, 2009
No, I would agree. I'm not arguing against people doing it.
I’m just saying I cannot seem to.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
Oh wait, Seattle-bred.
Duh. That’s why.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
Fat Tire is pretty good on tap and averageish in a bottle.
Good beer to re-up at a party.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
I believe they are distributed at 23+ states
They could be at 50 but are halting their expansion on purpose. They have a partnership with a brewery in Washington State. They each brew each other’s recipes, or will soon, to cut down on distribution costs. New Belgium will be all over Washington soon
Andrew T. Fisher - June 12, 2009
Yes, they have a partnership with Elysian, but they were ubiquitous here long before that.
Seriously, in out-of-the-way gas stations with about 6 beers, you can choose from bud, bud light, miller light, coors light, tecate and Fat Tire. They seem to have better distro than some large craft breweries closer to home… they’re on par with Red Hook, which is fucking insane.
marc w - June 12, 2009
Best use of regression in a sentence, the visual is fantastic!
Kermit. - June 12, 2009
I've got some Old Chub and the Yella Pils in the fridge right now...
ac/matthew, have you tried their pilsner yet?
Marquis seems to be the beneficiary of a huge increase in o-swing, which is odd as his FB has been his best pitch this year and there’s no sizeable jump in SwStr%. Seems fluke-ish to me. Hammel’s improvement strikes me as more ‘real’ though that may just be a function of age.
Jimenez has gotten better and better while his SwStr% has dropped each year since 2007. This year it’s his Ks looking that are up (along with GBs). I’m looking forward to seeing him.
Let’s go M’s
marc w - June 12, 2009
I have and I was sorely disappointed.
It’s really generic.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
There goes my dream of an epic evening of great beer.
marc w - June 12, 2009
Ratebeer seems to disagree with me.
89.1% for style. Perhaps I should try it again sometime.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
Hooray for cans!
Had a Ten Fidy last night and will probably do the same this evening. It’s my current passion. I also really like the Old Chub, and I recently found the Mamma’s Little Yellow Pilsner at a restaurant and loved it. Can’t find it in a can, though. (Well, I saw it in a can in Stone Brewing’s gigantic refrigerator, but they said I couldn’t have any.)
Teej - June 12, 2009
As much as I love Ten FIDY Gordon is probably my favorite beer of theirs.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
I tend to prefer stouts to strong ales, but I do like the Gordon.
Teej - June 12, 2009
I generally do as well, but I think Gordon is one of the two or three best American strong ales that are readily available
while Ten FIDY is in the top 10 for basic Imperial stouts.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
I'm still trying to brave my Ten Fidy after a bit of an incident with Stone Imperial Russian last week.
Earlier this week? Earlier this week.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
I had my first Stone Russian Imperial of the year last night
and I have to say it seemed less delicious than usual.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
I agreed on first sampling, but second sampling was much better.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
Mine lost out to Rouge Imperial, so maybe I need to do the same.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
Perhaps it is so different than what I usually drink this time of year I just have to get used to it.
I’ve also had a few 2008 bottles over the past few months which could also negatively color my imprssion.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
Why was Stone so mean to you?
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
It was in storage and not for sale
Jeff Sullivan - June 12, 2009
Everything's for sale.
For the right price.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
REAL BASEBALL REAL BASEBALL REAL BASEBALL
Poochie - June 12, 2009
I think the word you are looking for is retarded.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
REAL! BASEBALL! MOTHERFUCKERS!
Poochie - June 12, 2009
If I wanted to watch inept offense I'd watch
aw fuck.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
It's amazing that they only give out one championship trophy every year considering the World Series competitors play different sports
Jeff Sullivan - June 12, 2009
It's all politics.
Poochie - June 12, 2009
This is what's going through Griffey's head right now
Bearskin Rugburn - June 12, 2009
Based on their roster configuration I think Seattle and St. Louis should just trade leagues.
Poochie - June 12, 2009
Griffey Bomb, right here.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
a bomb that 15 years ago would kill 450 people but now explodes with all the force of a damp firecracker?
pdb - June 12, 2009
That's my pet name for it.
Poochie - June 12, 2009
Someone's a wet blanket.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
Pretty sure that would be Griffey
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
spaßverderber
CapSea - June 12, 2009
If there's a parade I'm the rain
pdb - June 12, 2009
He's been bombing all season
oh, you mean… right.
Bearskin Rugburn - June 12, 2009
How bad is the Rockies pen?
My impression from watching them against the Dodgers recently is that they have a lot of guys who can’t throw strikes to save their lives.
bluemax - June 12, 2009
Boned?
Bearskin Rugburn - June 12, 2009
A bullpen that doesn't throw a lot of strikes?
Gosh. I’m glad ours isn’t like that.
Colm - June 12, 2009
How bad you ask?
Matthew - June 12, 2009
I only read the comments.
Poochie - June 12, 2009
Apologies
I never noticed that you rated the bullpens previously.
bluemax - June 12, 2009
See, it's so much clearer with the circles.
Why don’t you just put those on in the first place?
Lanky - June 12, 2009
It's right there in the post
by tRA, they’re so bad they’re 14 runs better than us.
Jeff Sullivan - June 12, 2009
It's above average.
And they have the lowest walk rate in all of baseball.
marc w - June 12, 2009
See, there's your problem.
Rockies vs Dodgers:
1-8; 43 RS, 74 RA
Rockies vs. Everyone else:
27-24; 257 RS, 214 RA
Rox Girl - June 12, 2009
Based on the weekend they spent in St. Louis the Rockies are the greatest team of all time.
Poochie - June 12, 2009
Except against our overlords from Southern California.
Who we most humbly defer to in all things.
Rox Girl - June 12, 2009
Bow to King Manny.
Fin - June 12, 2009
In my defense
its not like the Rockies are on TV in Los Angeles very often. And while I subscribe to MLB.tv I don’t use it to watch too many non Mariners games.
bluemax - June 12, 2009
FWIW, a lot of the bullpen you saw then is now no longer intact...
Grilli, Belisle, and Rusch are gone.
Jeff Aberle - June 12, 2009
Embree, unfortunately, still remains.
Jeff Aberle - June 12, 2009
What's with everyone opponents' SBN blogs invading LL?
Fin - June 12, 2009
every opponents'*
Fin - June 12, 2009
What's the problem?
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
Invading or cordially interacting with?
Jeff Sullivan - June 12, 2009
Tomato, tomahto
Lanky - June 12, 2009
I didn't mean invade in a bad way.
I just meant invade as in multiple members of the other teams’ blog come here at once.
Fin - June 12, 2009
There's a difference between the honourable opposition from Colorado and the gaggle of douchebags from Texas
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
Isn't Texas the team that has that guy that's on drugs?
pdb - June 12, 2009
I heard he got so desperate for crack
that he tried to blow himself for money and then he hurt his ribs.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
did he at least get the money?
Because it would be a shame if he had to go without all that delicious crack.
pdb - June 12, 2009
An hour later and I am the first rec for this?
Sec 108 - June 12, 2009
It's called accountability...
You mother’s basement types shouldn’t be able to talk about other mother’s basements types unless you’re willing to talk about it to our virtual faces. Or something like that.
We’ll all leave for our own game thread and just lurk, we see series preview threads as the equivalent of meet-and-greets.
Rox Girl - June 12, 2009
We do need more friends 'round here.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
I like friends
Robert - June 12, 2009
Me too.
Fin - June 12, 2009
Friends are my favorite!
pdb - June 12, 2009
Friends of LL
Eyebrows
R.J. Anderson
Purple Row
…?
Fin - June 12, 2009
Eyebrows is being a turncoat.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
I have to answer the claims of my supposed Mariner fandom somehow.
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
Royals Review, McCovey Chronicles
a couple of the better AN posters
Matthew - June 12, 2009
This new "rox girl" looks like she might work out OK too
jury’s still out on fo0you
pdb - June 12, 2009
Um, that's one of us.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
it's entirely possible that post wasn't really serious
pdb - June 12, 2009
Um, LLers are always serious.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
Like you are being there.
Fin - June 12, 2009
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the jury's in.
That took all of 5 minutes if deliberation.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
My spelling has been atrocious of late.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
Yeah but most of that's the steroids, be honest
pdb - June 12, 2009
It's hard to type and needle at the same time.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
I like this kind of thing.
Wish I happens more often.
ThundaPC - June 12, 2009
Has LL done this lately?
Fin - June 12, 2009
Oskar Blues
The best thing about Oskar Blues in Lyons is the old-school vids they have. Paperboy, Zaxxon, Tron…oh yes, TRON. I never got to play it drunk growing up.
frightened inmate #2 - June 12, 2009
Yet another reason to go!
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
I haven't played Paperboy in foevah
I loved that game.
pdb - June 12, 2009
I was a Zaxxon guy, myself.
marc w - June 12, 2009
Lineup time!
Ichiro RF
Russ Branyan 1B
Adrian Beltre 3B
Jose Lopez 2B
Endy Chavez CF
Ronny Cedeno LF
Yuniesky Betancourt SS
Rob Johnson C
Jarrod Washburn P
ThundaPC - June 12, 2009
um
…
whatever.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
Ronny!
Ronny!
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
Still have Yuni though.
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
I got so excited I missed the rest of this shit fest.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
Hahahaha Rob Johnson is back, bitches!
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
So either Quiroz or Burke are outta here.
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
Not necessarily.
Johnson wasn’t on the DL. They may make the move tomorrow, but who knows. I know they SAID they wanted another pitcher, but they may not need one tonight.
marc w - June 12, 2009
If so, Burke.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
From Baker's blog just now:
No transaction yet, but I’d expect one of the two other catchers — Guillermo Quiroz or Jamie Burke — to be going down. It might not be today, however, since Roy Corcoran was not anywhere to be seen in the clubhouse.
pdb - June 12, 2009
Are you...taunting...us?
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
Why, I would never do that!
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
YUNICYCLE IT GOES ROUND AND ROUND!
Robert - June 12, 2009
Combined weight of our outfield: 505 lbs.
Lanky - June 12, 2009
Johnson needs to get hurt for longer next time
Maybe one of the Rockies was a boyhood Mariner fan and can kick him in the head for us.
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
And Yep
ThundaPC - June 12, 2009
Johnson Bomb, right here.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
I'm sensing a theme today
pdb - June 12, 2009
I had a .492 win percentage on thoughts going into yesterday's game!
CapSea - June 12, 2009
Yeah but most of that's the steroids, be honest
pdb - June 12, 2009
This kind of baseless speculation is unwarranted and unethical.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
But so much fun!
pdb - June 12, 2009
I know, right!
CapSea - June 12, 2009
No way
gregrabble - June 12, 2009
How far would Russell Branyan hit a hung curveball
in 2000 Coors?
600 feet?
craig3410 - June 12, 2009
welcome back RJ!
and WTF is Cedeno doing.. put Wlad out there
fo0you - June 12, 2009
I don't like you
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
Yes, well, some might say go Auburn, too.
So hush.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
Roll Tide!
(Cedeno can play SS)
marc w - June 12, 2009
I am afraid of what I'll see tonight but I can't turn my back on him.
No one else encourages the poor boy.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
At least Dave Cameron doesn't want him flensed.
I’M ALL HE HAS.
marc w - June 12, 2009
This is incorrect.
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
when i heard ‘Bama was in trouble for textbook violations I thought to myself "but we didn’t read at the U of A"
fo0you - June 12, 2009
this makes very little sense and needs a subject line
pdb - June 12, 2009
Please capitalize
use the subject line and use the reply link.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
Aye sir
Thank you for educating me in the ways of the intertubes, but in reality it was my konqueror that failed to render this comment box correctly. Thanks regardless ba dum tish
fo0you - June 12, 2009
New people shouldn't condescend until they read the rules
pdb - June 12, 2009
This is probably another JI account I'd imagine?
Fin - June 12, 2009
I thought it was butthol
pdb - June 12, 2009
I don't know.
I thought JI = Last Fan of Jose Lopez = Fogel = Poochie = Fo0yu. I do not completely get the meme behind it though.
Fin - June 12, 2009
Nope
fo0you is registered on other sites, all seem to be the same person
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
Oh good
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
OMG
We have a winner!
fo0you - June 12, 2009
No chatspeak.
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
LOL.
Fin - June 12, 2009
He knows what site he's on.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
At least I don't use LOLspeak
fo0you - June 12, 2009
I fail to see the difference.
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
don't encourage the (lad/lass)
pdb - June 12, 2009
I've got a half hour to kill at the end of a Friday at work.
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
Trust me, it's much worse
fo0you - June 12, 2009
I'm entirely convinced that every user on here that I haven't met personally is actually one person
or a very cleverly built robot.
pdb - June 12, 2009
That isn't true.
I met a few members from here, including Matthew and Graham. Don’t worry, they are two different people.
Fin - June 12, 2009
You met people that were named Matthew and Graham
but are those the “Matthew” and “Graham” that post here? Have you ever seen Matthew, Graham, and a computer in the same place at the same time? THE MYSTERY DEEPENS
pdb - June 12, 2009
Well, I've seen them both seperately.
They don’t look alike. I also met Gomez, even though he doesn’t post here anymore.
Fin - June 12, 2009
If you were to set up a computer simulation of an active blog
how hard would it be to hire a couple of actors to play characters from the ‘blog’ for a day?
I mean, if you were going to do this right, wouldn’t you do this? It’s not like it’d cost more than a case of beer or so, especially in this economy.
And if you really DID want to go cheap, how tough would it be to create someone to write over-the-top earnest stories of having met several ‘posters’ or ‘mods.’
This really, really elementary shit.
marc w - June 12, 2009
People already do this for a living, on a smaller scale
Astroturfers infiltrate blogs and gain good standing in a community, only to subtly push products/services later.
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
speaking of which can I interest you in a fine set of encyclopedias?
pdb - June 12, 2009
No you're doing it all wrong.
It’s more like: Hey guys I just got this Palm Pre, it’s so amazing, I can do all these things with it oh man. I love the Palm Pre.
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
For some strange reason I now desperately want a Palm Pre
pdb - June 12, 2009
I don't even know what that is.
royalcurve - June 12, 2009
I don't either
Now I’m suddenly wondering about all the phone and computer threads. Holy shit! These GT’s are all about schilling beer! This might go all the way to the top!
Kermit. - June 12, 2009
....Aaaaand you have to have the conspiratorial 'poster' too
marc w - June 12, 2009
Yeah that helps.
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
Even I am not sure about that.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
I'm actually the part of Matthew's brain that dies every time he drinks
Robert - June 12, 2009
This reminds me of a friend in college
who had a sober and drunk facebook profile.
bluemax - June 12, 2009
That would explain the worsening typing skills.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
I wonder which one of us will die first
Robert - June 12, 2009
At the $1,000 donation level...
Matthew - June 13, 2009
I have so many it's hard to keep them all striaght
Poochie - June 12, 2009
My sincerest apologies
Can i send over some garlic fries to make it better?
fo0you - June 12, 2009
Fax 'em on over
pdb - June 12, 2009
You mean we can get garlic fries
without having to sacrifice our dignity on TV?
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
It's a sad day when people realize that their dignity is worth less than an order of deep fried potatoes laden with garlic
pdb - June 12, 2009
I would counter that few, if any, of these people had any dignity to begin with.
How can you lose something you never really had?
Lanky - June 12, 2009
Capitalize properly.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
This seems Alabama.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
Is this politics?
CapSea - June 12, 2009
I'll say sure, why not
pdb - June 12, 2009
I don't know.
I thought he just meant that they don’t read because they party there.
Fin - June 12, 2009
Ah, "Alabama." I got it now.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
Does no one use Google anymore?
search “fo0you” that’s with a zero? geez guys I’m one of you believe it or not!
fo0you - June 12, 2009
Prove it.
Say something only we would know. GO GO GO
pdb - June 12, 2009
Jeff Clement
should never be called up from Tacoma because he is horrible on defense and can’t throw out anyone. what do I win?
fo0you - June 12, 2009
undying enmity at the rate you're going
pdb - June 12, 2009
Only if I can I get 2008 Sexon enmity
fo0you - June 12, 2009
You're halfway there by misspelling his name.
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
Sweet. How can I take it all the way?
fo0you - June 12, 2009
Vengeance from Graham?
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
Multiple comments that about your baseball knowledge.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
ooopsie daisy
pdb - June 12, 2009
Ugh, again.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
Oh good I haven't seen a good snarking lately.
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
I still haven't seen one
ZING
pdb - June 12, 2009
What about now?
Kirsten Schlewitz - June 12, 2009
eeeehhhhhh
marc w - June 12, 2009
I hope everyone you love kills themselves via disembowlment and someone forces you to clean it up with your tongue
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
Don't get me all hot and bothered on a Friday
fo0you - June 12, 2009
Yes, I'm terrified of what might happen to me should I get you all hot and bothered
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
Think you misunderstood "hot and bothered"
fo0you - June 12, 2009
Not really
You strike me as the serial pedophile type but since I’m not 12 no worries there
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
I could also be Rowdy Roddy Piper too
because it’s the internet!
fo0you - June 12, 2009
Which obviously gives you leave to be a flaming douchebag as you please
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
Which means your original comment was what?
fo0you - June 12, 2009
The standard response to when the wrong sort of person stumbles onto LL
To put it another way: You don’t know anything about the Mariners, so fuck off.
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
I'm glad it's the internet, go cry with Geoff
fo0you - June 12, 2009
Well this was boring
Bye!
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
Is this a record for fewest comments before unconditional release?
Lanky - June 12, 2009
Not even close
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
I can imagine some comedic value in collecting all the one-time comments in a single list.
Lanky - June 12, 2009
They're mostly spam, sadly
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
Not all though!
http://www.sbnation.com/users/robert2themax
Robert - June 12, 2009
Who and what are you?
Jeff Sullivan - June 12, 2009
Looks like a Times blog commenter.
marc w - June 12, 2009
I thought it was JI.
Fin - June 12, 2009
JI is funny though.
royalcurve - June 12, 2009
Why would he troll under a fake screenname?
Aaron Campeau - June 12, 2009
I hope to god this settles this once and for all.
JI has never, ever used an alt.
He stopped using the log in JI because of a technical issue.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
Which was my fault
Graham MacAree - June 12, 2009
I'd say it was at least equally his own fault.
Matthew - June 12, 2009
Think you misunderstood Lookout Landing.
CapSea - June 12, 2009
When would you prefer to be hot and bothered?
I would think Fridays would be ideal.
Lanky - June 12, 2009
Derp
OlSalty - June 12, 2009
Please use reply.
And I just did that here.
Eyebrows - June 12, 2009
Via Drayer's Twitter feed:
Aaron Campeau - June 13, 2009
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