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On The Hannahan Deal

All right, so I've had a little time to think about it, and here's what it comes down to:

  • No, we didn't rip anyone off
  • No, Jack Hannahan isn't very good
  • Yes, he's an upgrade over Chris Woodward
  • No, this likely won't end our pursuit of another infielder

It's weird; Hannahan's offense is Oakland in a nutshell. He has a good eye. He swings at pitches like Griffey and Franklin Gutierrez, which is to say that he has a pretty good idea of the strike zone and doesn't go fishing very much. But pitch recognition doesn't mean very much if you don't make a lot of contact or hit for a lot of power, and that's precisely why we were just able to land him from a division rival for a geode and some Bubble Tape. The overall package of Jack Hannahan as a hitter is less than the sum of the parts. It seems like he should be better than he is, but he isn't, and at 29, he's not about to kick it up a notch.

And yet he's still better than Chris Woodward. ZiPS projections for the rest of the season put Hannahan at a .310 wOBA and Woodward at .275, and while I find that to be a pretty rosy view of Jack Hannahan, he's still the better bat, and he's left-handed for good measure. You can't always upgrade with quality. Sometimes you just have to go from really bad to bad, but the good news is that every little bit counts just the same. And besides, we didn't get Hannahan for his offense.

No - it turns out that what makes Hannahan a half-decent player is the fact that he plays a mean third base. UZR likes him. PMR likes him. Plus/minus likes him. RZR likes him. Woodward has made some good plays, but he's also made some bad ones, and Hannahan comes in with a track record of really being able to pick it. Over a full season, his defense is probably worth about a win on its own, and while that impact diminishes when you're left with a brief window of playing time before Beltre comes back, it is a step up. Hannahan is just the latest in a series of acquisitions like this. And given where the Mariners are in the standings, it would be a difficult series to criticize.

As for Justin Souza...don't worry about Justin Souza. He's not going to make us look stupid.

This isn't a sexy trade, but it's a helpful one that solidifies a team defense that, without Beltre, was dealt a significant blow. Take a look around the depth chart. Hannahan, Langerhans, Gutierrez, Ichiro - these are four starters with +10 - +20 ability in the field. Cedeno's looked good over his time. Branyan's been all right. The only guy who hasn't looked sharp is Lopez, and it's not like he's a disaster. He's just a little below average. The team defense as a whole, though, is still really, really good.

Hannahan's going to help. And apparently he's going to try to help as soon as tonight. It sucks for Woodward, but as we talked about yesterday with regard to Yuni, I care more about what's good for the team than what's good for the players, and Woodward will still get to hang out on a Major League bench for a bit while Josh Wilson gets granted the gift of dismissal. Meanwhile, the Mariners improve while doing little to impede themselves from still chasing another infielder. Make no mistake; Zduriencik doesn't intend for this to be his last move. We'll just have to see after the next two games whether the moves he still wants to make will be worth making.

Defense. Cool.

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Yaaayyyyyy

Z is the man

Defense. Cool.

Alright, Z!

Yeah...
It seems like he should be better than he is, but he isn’t, and at 29, he’s not about to kick it up a notch.

This is me. He must have Griffey’s bat speed, 10 years before Griffey’s age. Then again, you look at Oakland’s current roster, and they’re full of guys like him. Good plate discipline and command of the strike zone, but fuck they just can’t hit.

Hannahan can't hit a fastball.

He’s a pretty good third baseman, albeit with a weakish arm, but the bat leaves a lot to be desired.

This has the added benefit of taking leverage away from teams like the Pirates

in case that’s still on the table.

By the way

Hannahan’s a clear pull power guy. So that’s something.

And he's a lefty!
One thing we've discovered on Athletics Nation about Hannahan

The ease with which one can devise pejorative nicknames : Strand-a-man, fan-a-fan, Hanna-can’t. Enjoy!

Given that this is LL I'm expecting Handjob or Hannasex
Bananahammock
I was just in the middle of figuring out how to type this out.
Aaaaaaand we're golden

Thanks!

That covers it.
Handjobahan, clearly.
Really?

I’d go the other way: Hannahandjob.

Jackie Handjob is clearly the way to go
Hannamontanahan
We've already heard that one.
I think that one might stick.
That last one sucks
I like (not mine) H2N3 virus
What are the symptoms of that certain strain?
Pretty much what Jeff said in his diagnosis.
Bananahands!

Or

It's a good thing Yuni is gone

If he had to play next to bananahands he’d have even more trouble concentrating.

Palendrome-an.
Palindrome rather.
"Anagrams for Jack Hannahan"

No anagrams found.

o_O

Jack Hanagram.
Or rather, Jack Nohanagram
nnn.... a-ha-ha!
Not to be confused with Sean Palindrome-her

widely believed to be the PTBNL in the A’s-Padres trade for Hairston.

When (if) he hits a mammoth home run: Branyahan
Something I found kind of funny

Career
Home .253/.337/.375
Away .188/.282/.315

And this year
Home .262/.324/.431
Away .111/.226/.148

Now there’s a pretty massive gap between the BABiPs, but still, I didn’t think the Coliseum was particularly friendly to either left or right handed hitters.

Sample size issue

He has less than a full season at home and on the road.

Pirates sign a guy named Dovydas Neverauskas. Ring a bell?
signed^
Holy shit, I thought you were kidding

Turns out you’re not.

Don't know.

You neverauskas before.

You're having a field day with these.
Better fielding than Yuni. Snap!
OK

Mabye I’m not as dumb as I usually think I am…

I think I like this deal more than you do.

Obviously with Hannhan at 29 he’s not going to get much better, but he’s a good option for the next few years since he’s pre-arb and a great fielder.

I don’t know, I probably like this kind of player a bit too much.

It's like starting Endy Chavez at third base
With no Yuni around to run into him
Woodward should still get opportunities too, since Hannahan struggles against lefties.
Woodward should move to SS

It’s what he’s played the most. Woodward is 2x the hitter than Cedeno.

Only if you believe that what he's doing now represents Cedeno's true talent level
And is 1/2 of the fielder.

Really, you’re not getting much with the offensive improvement.

My new favorite player!
Interesting under the radar deal

Hannahan great defender, plays both 2b/3b. If only he could hit since he has a solid approach overall.
Any info on Souza? A’s asst GM Forst mentioned they had scouts reports of him throwing 96/97mph. So I assume he’s a reliever? I guess he replaces Webb/Italiano who was traded away for Hairston

Swingman

future in the pen. Fastball gets in the mid-90s, tends to be a flyball guy, slider, bad change – standard writeup for a guy like this.

Hammerhan!

Looks like he is throwing a killer punch.
He wanted to destroy something beautiful
...It worked.
I still miss him....
I think this is where his right knee was injured. Hammerhan!
Who doesn't after watching 136 lifeless at bats by Rob Johnson?

It sad too, because Clement probably has fewer than 2.5 weeks left with the team.

Sad Panda...
Sandoval after not making ASG.
Sad whale then.
Please start tonight
This trade is awesome - not so much for its impact on our talent level as for the pure artistry of GMZ.
Not sure where to put this...

Baker’s twitter says: “Morrow to AAA”

Oh God, this shit again.
I'm guessing either Vargas or RRS gets the call after the ASG?
HYPHEN!!

HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RRS, almost certainly
I'd prefer both

with Olson to the pen . . .

Drayer reporting it now, too.
Exactly what he needs.

He needs to be working in AAA on his secondary stuff and control.

Josh Wilson isn't dead yet!
This has a thread of its own
Just an idea...

Someone mentioned that Hanahan can play 2B as well as 3B, so is there any chance that he could split time with Lopez if Beltre comes back, assuming that Lopez doesn’t make some magical defensive improvement and Hanahan hits somewhere in the neighborhood of his projected .310 wOBA?

I imagine his being left handed doesn’t hurt his chances…

Lopez has been roughly average this season and his range has been not bad at all

he just needs to make less stupid errors, and since he has no track record of making horribly stupid errors, I’d expect him to be just fine the rest of the season. He’s at least a 2WAR player once his BABIP regresses to where it should be.

Hmm...
and since he has no track record of making horribly stupid errors, I’d expect him to be just fine the rest of the season


Are you being sarcastic? I can’t tell…
Well that didn't work out well...
The preview button is wonderful.
Indeed.

Thanks for pointing it out, I’m just a little new here, as my errors in mechanics and logic so blatantly show…

Says the guy whose favorite player is Jose Lopez...
Hannahan has played two innings at second base in the Majors
Welcome to the black hole zone, Hannahan!

RF Ichiro
1B Russell Branyan
2B Jose Lopez
DH Ken Griffey Jr.
CF Franklin Gutierrez
LF Ryan Langerhans
C Rob Johnson
3B Jack Hannahan
SS Ronny Cedeno

Sells in the concession stands will perk every inning that starts Johnson, Hannahan, Cedeno.

Or
Nothing says bathroom break like an inning that starts Johnson, Hannahan, Cedeno.

Having a new bad hitter replace an old bad hitter makes the bad part of the lineup not look so bad!
Needs more Jack Wilson.
Johnson, Hannahan, Wilson still isn't exactly intimidating.
Hey, at least 1-6 looks tolerable . . .
From the comment thread on JY's USSMariner post on the Hannahan trade:
Bilbo on July 11th, 2009 5:02 pm

Ok, Z is a great guy and talked to me for about 10 minutes. He wa with wife so didn’t want to bother him too much. He told me about this deal as it hadn’t broken before takeoff. He was coming early for the futures game. He said the guy he really wanted at ss was zobrist in the offseason, but couldn’t get him because of uptons injury. What could have been. Pretty sure he isn’t done yet. I said cedeno is hitting what .180 and he said he wishes. LOL. Very glad he is our GM!

ASLKHJDIAJGSjsdkljlaishgalskdhAHSLihdslakhdfls I LOVE GMZ EVEN IF HE DIDN"T PULL THIS OFF
Oops - the "ASLKHJDIAJGSjsdkljlaishgalskdhAHSLihdslakhdfls I LOVE GMZ EVEN IF HE DIDN"T PULL THIS OFF" was mine, not Bilbo's

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