All right, so I've had a little time to think about it, and here's what it comes down to:
It's weird; Hannahan's offense is Oakland in a nutshell. He has a good eye. He swings at pitches like Griffey and Franklin Gutierrez, which is to say that he has a pretty good idea of the strike zone and doesn't go fishing very much. But pitch recognition doesn't mean very much if you don't make a lot of contact or hit for a lot of power, and that's precisely why we were just able to land him from a division rival for a geode and some Bubble Tape. The overall package of Jack Hannahan as a hitter is less than the sum of the parts. It seems like he should be better than he is, but he isn't, and at 29, he's not about to kick it up a notch.
And yet he's still better than Chris Woodward. ZiPS projections for the rest of the season put Hannahan at a .310 wOBA and Woodward at .275, and while I find that to be a pretty rosy view of Jack Hannahan, he's still the better bat, and he's left-handed for good measure. You can't always upgrade with quality. Sometimes you just have to go from really bad to bad, but the good news is that every little bit counts just the same. And besides, we didn't get Hannahan for his offense.
No - it turns out that what makes Hannahan a half-decent player is the fact that he plays a mean third base. UZR likes him. PMR likes him. Plus/minus likes him. RZR likes him. Woodward has made some good plays, but he's also made some bad ones, and Hannahan comes in with a track record of really being able to pick it. Over a full season, his defense is probably worth about a win on its own, and while that impact diminishes when you're left with a brief window of playing time before Beltre comes back, it is a step up. Hannahan is just the latest in a series of acquisitions like this. And given where the Mariners are in the standings, it would be a difficult series to criticize.
As for Justin Souza...don't worry about Justin Souza. He's not going to make us look stupid.
This isn't a sexy trade, but it's a helpful one that solidifies a team defense that, without Beltre, was dealt a significant blow. Take a look around the depth chart. Hannahan, Langerhans, Gutierrez, Ichiro - these are four starters with +10 - +20 ability in the field. Cedeno's looked good over his time. Branyan's been all right. The only guy who hasn't looked sharp is Lopez, and it's not like he's a disaster. He's just a little below average. The team defense as a whole, though, is still really, really good.
Hannahan's going to help. And apparently he's going to try to help as soon as tonight. It sucks for Woodward, but as we talked about yesterday with regard to Yuni, I care more about what's good for the team than what's good for the players, and Woodward will still get to hang out on a Major League bench for a bit while Josh Wilson gets granted the gift of dismissal. Meanwhile, the Mariners improve while doing little to impede themselves from still chasing another infielder. Make no mistake; Zduriencik doesn't intend for this to be his last move. We'll just have to see after the next two games whether the moves he still wants to make will be worth making.
Defense. Cool.
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Yaaayyyyyy
Z is the man
calim - July 11, 2009
Defense. Cool.
Alright, Z!
kentcheesehead - July 11, 2009
Yeah...
This is me. He must have Griffey’s bat speed, 10 years before Griffey’s age. Then again, you look at Oakland’s current roster, and they’re full of guys like him. Good plate discipline and command of the strike zone, but fuck they just can’t hit.
The Typical Idiot Fan - July 11, 2009
Hannahan can't hit a fastball.
He’s a pretty good third baseman, albeit with a weakish arm, but the bat leaves a lot to be desired.
OldhamA - July 12, 2009
This has the added benefit of taking leverage away from teams like the Pirates
in case that’s still on the table.
Bearskin Rugburn - July 11, 2009
By the way
Hannahan’s a clear pull power guy. So that’s something.
Jeff Sullivan - July 11, 2009
And he's a lefty!
ThundaPC - July 11, 2009
One thing we've discovered on Athletics Nation about Hannahan
The ease with which one can devise pejorative nicknames : Strand-a-man, fan-a-fan, Hanna-can’t. Enjoy!
stormtown - July 11, 2009
Given that this is LL I'm expecting Handjob or Hannasex
Jeff Sullivan - July 11, 2009
Bananahammock
OlSalty - July 11, 2009
I was just in the middle of figuring out how to type this out.
hcoguy - July 11, 2009
Aaaaaaand we're golden
Thanks!
Jeff Sullivan - July 11, 2009
That covers it.
royalcurve - July 11, 2009
Rimaman
EnglishMariner - July 11, 2009
Handjobahan, clearly.
Terminator X - July 11, 2009
Really?
I’d go the other way: Hannahandjob.
ralphie81 - July 11, 2009
Jackie Handjob is clearly the way to go
Jeff Sullivan - July 11, 2009
Hannamontanahan
scotthawk - July 11, 2009
We've already heard that one.
The Ancient Mariner - July 11, 2009
I think that one might stick.
Heydude - July 11, 2009
That last one sucks
gregrabble - July 11, 2009
I like (not mine) H2N3 virus
mikeA - July 11, 2009
What are the symptoms of that certain strain?
russak - July 11, 2009
Pretty much what Jeff said in his diagnosis.
mikeA - July 11, 2009
Bananahands!
OlSalty - July 11, 2009
Or
OlSalty - July 11, 2009
It's a good thing Yuni is gone
If he had to play next to bananahands he’d have even more trouble concentrating.
OlSalty - July 11, 2009
Palendrome-an.
The Typical Idiot Fan - July 11, 2009
Palindrome rather.
The Typical Idiot Fan - July 11, 2009
"Anagrams for Jack Hannahan"
No anagrams found.
o_O
The Typical Idiot Fan - July 11, 2009
Jack Hanagram.
Terminator X - July 11, 2009
Or rather, Jack Nohanagram
Terminator X - July 11, 2009
nnn.... a-ha-ha!
iglew - July 12, 2009
Not to be confused with Sean Palindrome-her
widely believed to be the PTBNL in the A’s-Padres trade for Hairston.
iglew - July 12, 2009
When (if) he hits a mammoth home run: Branyahan
lemonverbena - July 11, 2009
Something I found kind of funny
Career
Home .253/.337/.375
Away .188/.282/.315
And this year
Home .262/.324/.431
Away .111/.226/.148
Now there’s a pretty massive gap between the BABiPs, but still, I didn’t think the Coliseum was particularly friendly to either left or right handed hitters.
Malcontent1 - July 11, 2009
Sample size issue
He has less than a full season at home and on the road.
Jeff Sullivan - July 11, 2009
Pirates sign a guy named Dovydas Neverauskas. Ring a bell?
russak - July 11, 2009
signed^
russak - July 11, 2009
Holy shit, I thought you were kidding
Turns out you’re not.
section331 - July 11, 2009
Don't know.
You neverauskas before.
The Typical Idiot Fan - July 11, 2009
You're having a field day with these.
russak - July 11, 2009
Better fielding than Yuni. Snap!
LauraBu - July 11, 2009
OK
Mabye I’m not as dumb as I usually think I am…
section331 - July 11, 2009
I think I like this deal more than you do.
Obviously with Hannhan at 29 he’s not going to get much better, but he’s a good option for the next few years since he’s pre-arb and a great fielder.
I don’t know, I probably like this kind of player a bit too much.
Jack Moore - July 11, 2009
It's like starting Endy Chavez at third base
Jeff Sullivan - July 11, 2009
With no Yuni around to run into him
lemonverbena - July 11, 2009
Woodward should still get opportunities too, since Hannahan struggles against lefties.
JLC - July 11, 2009
Woodward should move to SS
It’s what he’s played the most. Woodward is 2x the hitter than Cedeno.
LauraBu - July 11, 2009
Only if you believe that what he's doing now represents Cedeno's true talent level
Jeff Sullivan - July 11, 2009
And is 1/2 of the fielder.
Really, you’re not getting much with the offensive improvement.
Coach Owens - July 11, 2009
My new favorite player!
Dewey N - July 11, 2009
Interesting under the radar deal
Hannahan great defender, plays both 2b/3b. If only he could hit since he has a solid approach overall.
Any info on Souza? A’s asst GM Forst mentioned they had scouts reports of him throwing 96/97mph. So I assume he’s a reliever? I guess he replaces Webb/Italiano who was traded away for Hairston
Asfan4ever723 - July 11, 2009
Swingman
future in the pen. Fastball gets in the mid-90s, tends to be a flyball guy, slider, bad change – standard writeup for a guy like this.
Jeff Sullivan - July 11, 2009
Yes!
Mariner Melee - July 11, 2009
Hammerhan!
BRKLN M'S - July 11, 2009
Looks like he is throwing a killer punch.
Mariner Melee - July 11, 2009
He wanted to destroy something beautiful
BRKLN M'S - July 11, 2009
...It worked.
Mariner Melee - July 11, 2009
I still miss him....
KingJWay - July 11, 2009
I think this is where his right knee was injured. Hammerhan!
BRKLN M'S - July 11, 2009
Who doesn't after watching 136 lifeless at bats by Rob Johnson?
It sad too, because Clement probably has fewer than 2.5 weeks left with the team.
Mariner Melee - July 11, 2009
Sad Panda...
Slurvey - July 11, 2009
Sandoval after not making ASG.
russak - July 11, 2009
Sad whale then.
Slurvey - July 11, 2009
Please start tonight
Snowman1025 - July 11, 2009 via mobile
This trade is awesome - not so much for its impact on our talent level as for the pure artistry of GMZ.
Decatur - July 11, 2009
Not sure where to put this...
Baker’s twitter says: “Morrow to AAA”
okdan - July 11, 2009
Oh God, this shit again.
hcoguy - July 11, 2009
Woo!
Coach Owens - July 11, 2009
I'm guessing either Vargas or RRS gets the call after the ASG?
okdan - July 11, 2009
HYPHEN!!
HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN HYPHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Lick Squirrels - July 11, 2009
Yes!
Mariner Melee - July 11, 2009
RRS, almost certainly
OlSalty - July 11, 2009
I'd prefer both
with Olson to the pen . . .
The Ancient Mariner - July 11, 2009
Drayer reporting it now, too.
okdan - July 11, 2009
Exactly what he needs.
He needs to be working in AAA on his secondary stuff and control.
russak - July 11, 2009
Josh Wilson isn't dead yet!
MFAN - July 11, 2009
This has a thread of its own
Jeff Sullivan - July 11, 2009
Just an idea...
Someone mentioned that Hanahan can play 2B as well as 3B, so is there any chance that he could split time with Lopez if Beltre comes back, assuming that Lopez doesn’t make some magical defensive improvement and Hanahan hits somewhere in the neighborhood of his projected .310 wOBA?
I imagine his being left handed doesn’t hurt his chances…
Big Seahawk Loser - July 11, 2009
Lopez has been roughly average this season and his range has been not bad at all
he just needs to make less stupid errors, and since he has no track record of making horribly stupid errors, I’d expect him to be just fine the rest of the season. He’s at least a 2WAR player once his BABIP regresses to where it should be.
seattlebruin - July 11, 2009
Hmm...
Big Seahawk Loser - July 11, 2009
Well that didn't work out well...
Big Seahawk Loser - July 11, 2009
The preview button is wonderful.
Teej - July 11, 2009
Indeed.
Thanks for pointing it out, I’m just a little new here, as my errors in mechanics and logic so blatantly show…
Big Seahawk Loser - July 11, 2009
Says the guy whose favorite player is Jose Lopez...
Coach Owens - July 11, 2009
Who me?
seattlebruin - July 11, 2009
Hannahan has played two innings at second base in the Majors
Jeff Sullivan - July 11, 2009
Gotcha.
Thanks
Big Seahawk Loser - July 11, 2009
Welcome to the black hole zone, Hannahan!
RF Ichiro
1B Russell Branyan
2B Jose Lopez
DH Ken Griffey Jr.
CF Franklin Gutierrez
LF Ryan Langerhans
C Rob Johnson
3B Jack Hannahan
SS Ronny Cedeno
ThundaPC - July 11, 2009
Sells in the concession stands will perk every inning that starts Johnson, Hannahan, Cedeno.
Or
Nothing says bathroom break like an inning that starts Johnson, Hannahan, Cedeno.
mark sobba - July 11, 2009
Having a new bad hitter replace an old bad hitter makes the bad part of the lineup not look so bad!
Jeff Sullivan - July 11, 2009
Needs more Jack Wilson.
Vatinius - July 11, 2009
Johnson, Hannahan, Wilson still isn't exactly intimidating.
Coach Owens - July 11, 2009
Hey, at least 1-6 looks tolerable . . .
The Ancient Mariner - July 11, 2009
From the comment thread on JY's USSMariner post on the Hannahan trade:
Decatur - July 11, 2009
Oops - the "ASLKHJDIAJGSjsdkljlaishgalskdhAHSLihdslakhdfls I LOVE GMZ EVEN IF HE DIDN"T PULL THIS OFF" was mine, not Bilbo's
Decatur - July 11, 2009
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