Biggest Contribution: Shawn Kelley, +0.7%
Biggest Suckfest: Ronny :(edeno, -9.0%
Most Important AB: Branyan DP, -7.2%
Most Important Pitch: Hafner homer, -16.4%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -5.5%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -46.7%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +2.2%
(What is this chart?)
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Our biggest contribution was +0.7%
gregrabble - July 24, 2009
The fact that the Angels and the Texas appear to be holding hands makes them that much more dickish
Poochie - July 24, 2009
They're actually both masturbating.
Onto the corpse of Oakland.
I Lick Squirrels - July 24, 2009
The compass rose needs to be shedding a single tear.
Jabs the knife in a little deeper…
The Typical Idiot Fan - July 24, 2009
I had the same thought.
Kinda like the Litter-Hating Indian Chief.
msb - July 24, 2009
I don't completely understand these charts,
But how, How, HOW is Batista not the biggest suckfest?
Please note, I am not questioning your competence, merely publicly lamenting the thorn that’s been stuck in my side for the past two years.
section331 - July 24, 2009
They are based on leverage.
Game was pretty much lost by the time he came in.
Aaron Campeau - July 24, 2009
Ohhhhh.
OK, that makes sense. Thanks!
Still, Batista can eat it. :p
section331 - July 24, 2009
Game was virtually over when Batista came in. Down 4-0 in the 9th, the odds of winnging were extremely low.
MFAN - July 24, 2009
Thank you both. :)
section331 - July 24, 2009
It's cute that the little Mariner guy is waving and not fliping them off.
MFAN - July 24, 2009
That's what makes it Northwest.
section331 - July 24, 2009
A little Red Sox or Yankee would flip them off.
MFAN - July 24, 2009
Truth!
section331 - July 24, 2009
He's going to go home afterwards, angrily down a couple of soy yogurts before he goes into his room and cuts himself.
CapSea - July 24, 2009
HARRYP09 - July 24, 2009
That pretty much sums up the game.
Also, apologies for being bad at the subject line.
HARRYP09 - July 24, 2009
Maybe RRS didn't have his command back after all
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
Before everyone goes mental, we aren't done yet.
There is a reason the 1995 season was incredible. I realize that some of you were still in daycare in 1995. My own daughter was in daycare that year. On this date in 1995 we were 8 Games Back of the Angels with a 40-41 record, we lost today in 1995 4-6 to the Brewers. It didn’t look good back then (look it up, because you may need that in late August/early September). That year the Angels didn’t have their magic . I can only hope that it runs out on them this year. But in any case, there’s a lot of baseball left to be played.
Sinking Away - July 24, 2009
1995 was the exception, not the rule.
I think everyone here would love a repeat of 1995 and it would be awesome and I’m rooting for it. Even if we do end up selling I’ll be rooting for us to make a run, but the odds are small and in the end it’s very unlikely that we make the playoffs.
MFAN - July 24, 2009
To quote a great poem
Will we listen to Pecota or will we refuse to lose?
gregrabble - July 24, 2009
I see you and raise you a FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
I Lick Squirrels - July 24, 2009
That was the first year I got into the M's.
And while it’s nice to think about 95, or even the 07 Rockies, chances of that happening are pretty slim. Sorry to be such a downer but 95 was a long time ago. As was 2001.
Hopefulmsfan - July 24, 2009
On this date in 1995
Ken Griffey Jr was about two weeks from coming off the DL, the team had outscored their opponents on the season, and some guy named Randy Johnson was taking the hill the next day.
This is not 1995.
davidcameron - July 24, 2009
Well, a pretty good lefty is pitching tomorrow.
But I know your point.
Fin - July 24, 2009
True, this isn't 1995.
I’m more hopeful than you. I’ve love’d you from afar for the past 3 years. I would beg you for a autograph if I knew what you looked liked and I actually cared about autographs. You are instramental (to building the right team for the M’s) without actually building the team. I read USSM daily and I guess Z and Wak do to. You have provided them some very good guidance. Dave, you are and should be a bigger part of MLB, ( I will hesitate to say, apply yourself, since you’ve got all that other stuff going on). Thank you for sharing your brilliant input with regular people.
Maybe we can still make this interesting. There’s quite a bit of season left and no reason to think that we can’t.
Sinking Away - July 24, 2009
Not to be a jerk, but the vast majority of us are aware of what happened in 1995 and the vast majority of us also realize that it was incredibly improbable.
Aaron Campeau - July 24, 2009
It also helped that we had three hall of famers plus Jay Buhner
Poochie - July 24, 2009
Let's not forget Joey Cora. He was the shit.
gregrabble - July 24, 2009
Potentially 4
Tino wasn’t terrible that year either.
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
But this year's team has 2 potential HOF in Ichiro and Felix.
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
Calling Felix a potential HOF is extremely premature
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
Don't you rain on MY parade!
Hopefulmsfan - July 24, 2009
Was the 1995 Randy Johnson better than the 2009 Felix Hernandez?
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
Yes
Aaron Campeau - July 24, 2009
I think you are right. Didn't he win the CY in 1995?
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
Damn, I just checked Randy's stat in 95:
18-2, 2.48 ERA, 214.1 IP, 159 H, 294K/65BB. Damn, that’s vastly better than Felix this year.
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
In the Kingdome, too...
PositivePaul - July 24, 2009
Which probably was a good place for him to pitch because he faced lefties something like 9% of the time
Poochie - July 24, 2009
Wow.
JMKaustin - July 24, 2009
2.08 FIP. 12.35 K/9, 4.52 K/BB
One of the more dominant seasons in recent history. Felix is coming into his own this year and that’s awesome and a half, but he is nowhere near Randy ’95.
Aaron Campeau - July 25, 2009
Felix has a better ERA.
Hopefulmsfan - July 24, 2009
WTF?
Randy averaged 7+ IP per start, averaged 12.36K per 9 innings. gave up 0.7H per inning pitch. Nobody in today’s game approached his dominance in 1995.
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
Dude, I'm kidding.
Hopefulmsfan - July 24, 2009
Here is some good stuff about Felix and where his career stands to date
If the date were last September. But it’s not. It’s 1995? This is getting confusing, but here read this anyway. Don’t worry about Felix/USSM. Also don’t forget Randy is left handed, was 6’10, had a mullet, and he still has a face like five miles of bad road. And I say ‘was’ 6’10" because he no longer has cartilage in his knees so his head is now closer to the ground.
Kermit. - July 24, 2009
I don't even know how good our defense was that year
I remember the defensive reputations of players, but knowing what I know now, they very well could have been horrible.
Oh and Felix has Safeco while Randy had the Kingdome.
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
That's exactly the point, Safeco vs. Kingdom.
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
Well, defense also plays a role.
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
I missed it, what's the point?
Kermit. - July 24, 2009
Randy pitched in Kingdom and still put up out-worldly number in 1995.
Felix had the comfort of Safeco field, so I have to look at something like FIP to see how much better Randy really is.
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
I'd argue that Felix pitches in Kingdom.
Also the Kingdome was a pitcher’s park in 1995.
Mariner John - July 24, 2009
Never mind. Park effects confused me.
It was closer to neutral than to Coors though
Mariner John - July 24, 2009
Well, one difference is Randy was 32 in 1995, and Felix is 23 this year.
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
32 is 23 backwards.
It’s a sign.
Hopefulmsfan - July 24, 2009
I just realized
Griffey was on the Mariners in 1995, and he’s also on the Mariners now! Playoffs!
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
Well, Grif missed a lot of games in 1995, if I remembered correctly.
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
And he sucks in 2009, if I remember correctly.
MFAN - July 24, 2009
But we have a CF in 2009 who doesn't suck. But he's still no 1995 Griffey though.
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
You keep making comments and then immediately cancelling them out
gregrabble - July 24, 2009
I didn't bring up we have Griffey in both 95 and 2009.
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
1995 DOESN'T MATTER.
FOR FUCK’S SAKE.
Eyeball Kid - July 24, 2009
Mine was a joke making fun of this very point
just for the record.
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
I am glad of this fact.
It always seems to me that M’s fans are living in the past.
Eyeball Kid - July 24, 2009
1995 was quite a thing to witness
and it was a team filled with fan favorites and some of the biggest stars in the game. I even like reliving it sometimes, but I can’t stand the obsession by the fans and by the organization. I can’t wait until we win a WS so we have a new season to talk about for 15 years.
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
Most of the casual fans are
Most of the more serious fans like the ones that hang out here are living in the present.
pdb - July 25, 2009
Vastly
Poochie - July 24, 2009
Few pitchers ever were better than mid-90's Johnson
And this isn’t even the point. We can now say Johnson is a HOFer because he’s won 300 games and struck out 4000. Felix hasn’t even had a full Cy Young calibur season.
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
Next year we get to say 5000
Poochie - July 24, 2009
We got to watch the three best players at the three most important positions of their generation for significant portions of their peak play for the Mariners.
That is so fucking cool.
Aaron Campeau - July 25, 2009
Just you wait.
In 2040, the Cy Young award will be renamed the Felix Hernandez award.
I Lick Squirrels - July 24, 2009
I will look like such a fool.
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
AROD was just coming up and the 25th man on the team. I don't think you could count him as a
major contributor that year, unless you think Edgar will make it to the Hall.
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
I think he should
gregrabble - July 24, 2009
Wait, I am sorry. I forgot AROD roid up and is unlikely to make it to the HOF.
So this year’s team will likely have the same number of HOF as the 95 team, which is 2.
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
I think you missed the point.
Aaron Campeau - July 24, 2009
That whole Angels collapse thing, and all.
msb - July 24, 2009
wasn't there a link posted a while ago
analyzing late season collapses, and the 1995 collapse was the most statistically improbable, ever?
Will Kier - July 24, 2009
Yes
Poochie - July 24, 2009
I think THT took a look at this sometime in the 07-08 offseason
because the 2007 Mets collapse was the second-worst of all time. Can’t find that article now, but here is a similar article from BP written in September 2007. Yep, 1995 California Angels at #1. Something a lot of people forget about that season is that all the comeback wins the M’s had would have been for naught if not for the Angels going into an absolute death spiral. But, you know, “Refuse to Lose” is catchier.
pmc47 - July 25, 2009
I wasn't aroung for the '95 season
or the 2001 sesaon.
I’m pretty sure that neither season has anything to do with this year so I don’t see what the fucking point it is in talking about them.
Eyeball Kid - July 24, 2009
The frigging Mets were leading by 7 games with 17 to play in 2007
and proceed to lose the AL East title to the Phillies in the last day. So what is 6.5 games with 66 to play?
brian_sun - July 24, 2009
uh
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/7/24/962277/51-45-chart#18664940
Aaron Campeau - July 24, 2009
The worst part of all of this is we have been actually playing really good baseball (minus tonight).
This chart is so depressing.
Hopefulmsfan - July 24, 2009
We were something like 31-19 in the last 50 games, and we still lost 3.5 games to the Angels in that
I don’t think we could’ve played any better than .620 in that tough stretch. But it’s still not good enough. We are pretty much done.brian_sun - July 24, 2009
Actually exactly like 31-19.
SethGrandpa - July 24, 2009
8-4 in the last 12 games and we've lost 2.5 games in the standings.
Hopefulmsfan - July 24, 2009
This is the worst part
I’ve endured 100-loss seasons. And 93 win seasons where we didn’t make the playoffs. And 2007.
Somehow this is just the worst for me. Maybe I just like this team more than the ones in the past. Maybe it’s just been so long since we’ve had a team legitimately this good, or one that has been winning. Or maybe I just hate the Angels and their performance as of late has made it all the more aggravating. But it’s the most disappointed I’ve been outside of being knocked out of the playoffs.
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
I know that emotions and fandom are relative and this is in no way a passing of judgement
but this seems crazy to me because I am so far on the opposite end of the spectrum. It’s not that I’m not pissed, believe me, but being this respectable this late in the game and not feeling like this will be our only chance to compete for the next billion years is a blast for me.
Aaron Campeau - July 24, 2009
Yeah
This really doesn’t strike as a ‘one and done’ season. I’m fairly confident in GMZ and his ability to keep us compeptititve beyond this year.
I sure as hell hope so anyway.
Eyeball Kid - July 24, 2009
I suppose I'm just talking about my isolated feelings for each season
As a Mariner fan right now, I of course feel better than I have since 2003.
Fuckmikereilly - July 24, 2009
Help me out here, are you a glass half empty guy? That's fine, I'm just trying t0 follow this thiread.
Sinking Away - July 24, 2009
Glass very much full!
Aaron Campeau - July 25, 2009
But none of our players have tested positive for swine flu!!!
Optimism
SethGrandpa - July 24, 2009
Just got back from the game
And yes, it was more painful in the flesh.
Ezzra - July 24, 2009
I can assure you, it was just as painful on tv.
It was like a paper cut on your finger that had a callus built up so it didn’t hurt badly, but it still made an impression and it hurt a little. Heil, the loss hurt a lot..
Sinking Away - July 24, 2009
Try enduring that paper cut on white knuckles
while engaged in bumper to bumper traffic.
Ezzra - July 25, 2009
That chart is awesome
But the Rangers shouldn’t even be close to the Angels boat, let alone in it with them.
OceanBird - July 24, 2009
The idea of the picture is that the Angels and Texas are still competing and the Mariners aren't.
Fin - July 24, 2009
I know
My point is the Rangers don’t have a chance in hell.
OceanBird - July 25, 2009
Better chance than the Mariners!
Aaron Campeau - July 25, 2009
I don't find these standings cool at all... =(
CapSea - July 25, 2009
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