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7/28: Open Game Thread, Part 2

So with Washburn finished, all eyes turn to whatever is going on with Jeff Clement.

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So how about that Saunders guy?
I bet he just has cramps or something
Wait did Bedard pass the 'has girl parts' label off to Clement by pitching through pain?

I missed that memo

It's pretty sexist to think that all cramps must be related to cycles
Sore subject?
This is how you spell vagina
My aunt flo just kills me
Well I am going to go ahead and call T.M.I
He was never fast enough for a triple. Liar.
I'm pretty sexist

wait, sexist means sexually appealing, right?

Well what's wrong with being sexy?
Brignac Escobar Brignac Escobar Brignac Escobar Brignac Escobar

Please be one of the two.

Brignac please.
Either way, I'm thrilled.
Yeah I feel it will not be one of these.
Clement and Lopez for Weeks!
Both

we need depth

I'm still hoping for Brignac, even though it's become a longshot.
I like that Bartlett is crushing the ball this year.

But I don’t like the smart Rays FO.

Bartlett's still under control for two more seasons and Tim Beckham should theoretically be ready within three.

But I will miss Brignac dearly if he’s dealt.

How are you so quick on the draw

in these threads? Jeeezus

ACBlue emailed me.
Double agent?
Hoping he knew something
He's a robot.

It is an automatic response system. Whenever ‘Rays’ is posted on the internet, the bot sends a message in response.

I have Rays of sunshine coming out of my ass
Doesn't he also respond to "BJ Upton" + "Lazy" ?
I'm not entirely sure of everything the bot is programmed to respond to.
Don't make me break the furries out.
If you ever need a new home blog, we will welcome you with open arms
They have Beckham waiting

and he’ll be better than Brignac (probably). They do not need Brignac.

I can't remember if this was supposed to be dis toward women or not
We're winning!
Chris Woodward is one of my least favorite Mariners ever.
You know what? Franklin's bobblehead looks more like Woodward that Guti.

It’s lame.

So 7 innings 1 earned.

Trade the mofo.

I'm not so sure about these Blue Jays fans...

Assuming they’re from British Columbia, you know, which isn’t all that far from Seattle, why are they rooting for a team on the other end of the Country? Do they just think they’re nationalist or being extremely Patriotic or what? Stuff like this bugs me, its SERIOUS business.

Fuck them
That's been my motto lately.
They show Blue Jays games across Canada and Seattle is the closest MLB team to more than just BC.
If there was only one Baseball team in the USA...

Wouldn’t you root for them?

I don't know that I'd cheer for them over Vancouver's baseball team.
I'd root for whoever was closest to me
If there was a team in Atlanta

And a team in BC, you’d root for the Atlanta team?

Saunders was a fan of the Jays growing up.
So Saunders gets a low borderline pitch called a strike?
That inning happened
Washburn really pitched poorly. Only thrown 57.8% of pitches for strike.
Missed an awful lot just below the bottom of the zone
Better than missing up!
I shouldn't say poorly. But the defense saved him again.
So this game is really going to reset the tone for the season

after those blowout losses. Way to stick it to em, guys.

Chris Woodward has a .521 OPS
Good to see that we can work the pitcher.
Raul Ibanez practically has the same OPS as Chris Woodward + Ronny Cedeno
It's like facing Rivera!
This was predictable.
Why in the world is Scutaro so good this year?
Yes, how did that happen.
Because Mark Lowe is bad?
He has a .365 wOBA. It's not just Lowe.
That would explain why his wOBA is 45 points over his career average.
If Washburn were on the mound

Ichiro would have turned that into an out.

So, fuck Marco Scutaro?
So is Lowe on the Randy Johnson career path?

100mph but no control until one day he gets it.

Except he's not a starter and his fastball is straighter and his slider isn't nearly as good

But yes, besides that.

I don't know, has Lowe had a career-altering discussion with Nolan Ryan yet?
Don't know... but I think we should put in a call just in case.
Lowe can't even miss bats though
Fuck you Mark Lowe
Well there goes Mark Lowe's trade value
Well this is fascinating.
So I hope Lowe was not supposed to be showcased.
It is imperative that we get Jarrod the win
It's the difference between Escobar and someone else's Jeff Clement
You diabetes fuckers are all the same
Simms channeling Wilford Brimley

diabeetus

Diabetes Forecast: the healthy living magazine

Brandon Morrow: Closing the Deal

I think Mark Lowe is just making Washburn look better by comparison.
But Washburn needs to get a W out of this game.
Vernon Wells is pretty bad.
Wells or Silva
for*
No way, it's about 28M vs. 126M.
Jays pay money of course.
Why don't we ever pitch Aardsma for more than an inning?
too many one run games.

He would always be out there

I will not challenge the challenge

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Yeah Dave that's a big out
swing at 3-0?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
FUCK YOU MARK LOWE
Well there goes the win.
Extras!
We're too bad to make it that far
We have a better than .500 record and more win than Team Canada
No surprise there.
Yeah my heart goes out to Jarrod
There goes the Neighbourhood.
Hey was Lowe getting traded?
There was interest

Rosenthal has someone looking at White too… Twins I think

Walkoff wins are always exciting.
Teams will now want to rescue Washburn from this injustice.
Damn, no win for Washburn.
I really hate Mark Lowe now.
New person to hate each day!
Keeps me coming back for more.
Washburn to Lowe, after the game: "Hey, thanks, dickhead!"
That pitch was up and in and he hits a double down the line.
If we take Lowe out of this game it's because he has been traded
What if the game goes a full nine innings?
Where is Loafie by the way?
Stiff back
I miss his shining face
I think you spelled shining wrong. It's spelled C-H-U-B-B-Y
This would be a fitting end to Washburn's career as a Mariner

Terrible run support throughout his tenure, capped off by the bullpen blowing it in his last game.

At least he held out his end by being kinda crappy
A fitting end to his Mariner career

would be him giving up 7 runs then complaining about run support and throwing Kenji under the bus.

A fitting end would be being hit by a bus leaving the ballpark.
Yes change-ups throw more of them.
I love how Overbay has a .259 batting average and .364 wOBA.
How is that strange?
He didn't say it was strange, he just said that he loved it.
Eh, most casual fans will dismiss him as terrible.

I certainly wouldn’t mind having him.

And is still a below average player
Thanks for that GIDP Johnson, you fucking dick
Why do ya'll care about Washburn winning?

Seems like a loss here would just make it easier to justify the trade to players

Trade value, I suppose.
But he pitched 'well'

this is why you scout him, right? So you don’t have to go by W-L.

Washburn is getting dealt either way.
Now he looks like he knows what he's doing...
I miss Mark Lowe the rookie.

Too bad Hargrove ran him into the ground
Not Hargrove, but...

I sometimes wonder what Bobby Madritsch is up to.

Yeah that was a sweet story for half a season
This was a sarcastic comment
You have to pick your spots
I work so much better as a sidekick. >:(
The chops have ruined him.

That and a bum elbow.

Those were the days.
heeheehee

tacos rule

I mean... Way to go Ichiro!
Ichiro makes me a-happy.
If guti homers

Does wash run out and hug him like felix?

No, because it's still a no decision.
Why should he give a shit he's in the NL
Washburn doesn't benefit from us winning now.

Other than that he is on the team.

I'm not sure Wash would be that happy for Mark Lowe to get the win.
I love when people boo checking the runner.
Remember when people booed Feierabend for trying to hold Griffey on?

I wonder how that went over in spring training.

Com'on, Shelly.
Probably, much like the Yuni trade

we will not know anything until tomorrow. That kills me.

COME ON SHELTON
Okay. Here we go. Don't make me cry, Chris.
EARN YOUR CONTRACT

((chuckle))

Wild pitch wild pitch
We're going to lose
Dammit.

I chose not to have an affair with the pool today and I stayed faithful to my 7:00pm marriage to the Mariners. They better win…it’s freaking hot.

Isn't Camp formerly from the Rays?
Gaaaaaahhhhhh Amber Alert on the radio what the hell

Double play? Stupid mlb.c o m won’t load

Strikeout

There were two outs

That was a funny looking ball earlier
The one that was almost perfectly superimposed over the called strike (in the middle of the plate) on gameday?

yeah it was funny

It smells like a funeral in the Mariners dugout.
I'm disappointed Sweeney didn't bunt

It would be nice, at this stage in the season, to be bunting with the DH again.

It's almost like Don Wakamatsu understands how to use his bullpen!
But closers suck in non-save situations!
Jeff, are we using this as the open trade thread?
I will ban you so fast!
Who was traded?
Ichiro and Felix to the Nationals for Jim Riggleman.
Well, for the current rumors along with Clement being pulled, etc.

Divish had his thoughts, for example, and they’d be fun to talk about.

Potentially Clement, I think is what's being referred to
Until I put up a Clement thread (if I do)
Cito seems to like pinch-hitters.
Divish has a semi-update on Clement.

Link

Needs more new-window button
Needs more right-click open in new window button
Does not compute
More like new tab.
Use the bottom link
Fuck that

I love having to reload the gamethread. Takes me back to SBN 1.0

The only thing I learned from this is that Jeff has an ugly mustache forming.

And i second that. Always, ALWAYS in a new tab please.

Link

Thank you so much. I will now use this link from now on.
The Blue Jays may lead the league in ugly players.

Yikes.

Are they still the whitest team in baseball?
Saunders is fun.
Whoa, how long has that Twitter thing been on the MLB.TV screen?
Are you referring to the in-game highlights?
No the Twitter thing along from it, next to the player tracker.

I don’t use Twitter so I’m not that interested, I just hadn’t noticed it before.

Oh, well now I am just noticing it.

I have no idea. I never click on anything down there.

For some reason, I always think that Michael Saunders is black
I thought Canadians had heads that pop off when they talk.
Oh shit there's a game going on
The "Where is Jeff Clement going and who is going with him?" game?
How the heck is Scutaro already back at bat?
Do it for Sparta David!
Given the way they keep talking about it on the broadcast I feel like we get an announcmenet after the game
I really fucking hope so, I won't be able to sleep
It's like Christmas.

Only our presents don’t take 4 days to get really old.

Everyone's been using the Christmas analogy for like a week

And the only fucking present I’ve gotten on any of the days is finding out that Bedard is on the DL

Hope for not-coal next time.
SHELTON!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like you Chris
Whoop Tarp catch

Espn reel

SHELTON!

I love your ugly mug

Thanks Big Red!
And the fans didn't get in the way!
We have better fans than Boston does.
Boston has quantity over quality.
Sims

“NOW THE MARINERS CAN GO AHEAD AND WIN THIS BABY…. with Johnson, Hannahan, and Woodward.”

SHELTON!

Hits the wall=web gem!

There is ketchup hidden somewhere near the tarp and he squeezes some into..

His face secretly, and he gets #1 Web Gem.

Bottom of the lineup coming up. What's the chance that we will score at the bottom of the 9th?
So are Loafie and Bunyan available for PH duty?
Loafie's not

we’re trying to give the Jays a chance, Loafie would just hit a walk-off homer

This is the worst version of the Rocky Theme ever
The best being?
Hmm good question

As a trumpet player I’m partial to the Maynard Ferguson version.

That's a fantastic cover.
I think the USC Marching band version

is based on this one.

I thought I remembered this from somewhere.
WOOOOOOOOOOOO!
HANNAHANAHANAHANAHANAHANAHANAHANA
whoop hitahans
FUCK YES RALLY TIME BITCHES

Lets get this walkoff!!!

He's a HandyMan!
Bunt you son of a bitch
Bunt time?
Jack Hannahan has 3 hits?

When the fuck did this happen?

Did Rob use up his Homer for the year?
Fare thee well, Jeffie
I can't wait for Jose.
Loafie up

game over.

Why is Johnson not bunting?
He had three doubles in a game once

and it’s gone to his head.

Rob Johnson will never hit a ball that hard again.
He might if he gets another amazingly bad pitch like that again
He hit a 400 ft homer earlier this season
That's one more 400 ft homer than Loafie has =(
No better time to get one then now.
That ball was obliterated
I saw it with my own two eyes and can confirm that it did indeed happen
awwwwwwww missed it by thaaaaaaat much
That looked good off the bat.
Man that looked good at first
Well, these are actually good swings. That's fun to see, if nothing else
why isn't he bunting?
Two strikes.
Because he needs to hit into a dp here
Johnson's day so far.

Strike Out Swinging
Strike Out Looking
GIDP

Please, mix it up, get a hit for once.

A walk is fine here too.
Lined to Center?
I might have missed that, just trying to repeat what they said on TV.
I'll take the walk.
Fuck Gary Matthews Jr.

Seriously.

You've got to be fucking kidding.

Team of destiny, apparently.

Who gives a shit anymore
STOP SHOWING OLD FANS!

WHAT THE FUCK?!

Yes show us some hot young trim
Back to the girls now, order has been restored.
This is the weirdest complaint in the history of complaints
OK CAMERMAN WE'VE ESTABLISHED THERE IS ANGST IN THE BALLPARK THANK YOU
Except the people they kept showing looked more unconscious from the heat ...
Why does it keep showing fans who look like they can't wait to go home?
Depressed about the potential Clement trade
Jays fans?
BUNT MOTHERFUCKER
Johnson: a walk machine!
Most destructive 5-6-7 hitters in baseball.
BUNT YOU FAGGOT
Walkoff bloop time!
Jose Lopez

Grand salami time!!!

Walk to first

PH loafie

DON'T HIT FOR SAUNDERS!

Hit for WOODY!

EVERY BODY SAFE

YESS

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
YES YES YES YES
That was a fucking atrociously awful bunt
Ah-whoops!
But he made it!

Results based analysis ftw!

Hahahahahahahahaha

Woody finally bunted right

Wow.

Game over.

All three of them reached base.

Hey now.

LOAFIE
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
JERSEY ON NOW
I WILL BURN THAT JERSEY WITH YOU IN IT DAMMIT LOAFIE WORST POSSIBLE OUTCOME OTHER THAN GIDP
Oh wait, that's a bit unreasonable. My bad
A lof of teams have a huge hole at pitcher defense.
WOO HOO!

Bases loaded for Saunders!!

Never mind, make that Lopez!
NO DAMNIT...I WANTED SAUNDERS
Jose Lopez walf off time!
How many walk offs will this be for Lopez?
Lopez is going to hit an infield pop-up.
Pop-up time.
His back looks stiff.
Are they trying to increase Jose's trade value?
There have been rumors of a Ricky Weeks trade.
NONONONONONONONONONONONON
NONONONONONONONONONONONONO
Why does Lopez get all the walk-offs? I want Saunders!
PINCH HIT GRAND SLAM! 500 FEET! LET'S DO THIS!
THERE IT IS

DOWN THE LINE BUT FOUL

THERE IT IS! FOUL!
AHHH

Sims is killing me this inning!

Because what someone with a bad back needs is to get pounded on by a bunch of happy ball players.
THERE IT IS.....

lands 25 feet foul

Dang it, I got all excited for nothing.
Stop doing that, Sims.
Walk off GIDP time!
There it is!

But foul.

Dave Sims does not understand physics
yay we almost win
Ronny will do it!
DAMN IT LOAFIE
He suddenly remembered Felix would start kicking his ass in happiness.
Well now the scouts won't think Lopez is clutch anymore
Would have had Lopez by a mile at first.
Why would you not hit a grand slam there?
Seems like a questionable call on Wak's part.
We end up losing somehow?
Bahaha this is going to be the best DP ever
Wait, what, extra innings!

Since uh, CedeNO is coming up.

[Unsurpriseface.jpg]
Ronny is 0-24?!
This is what happens when I don't watch a game for five days
Squeeze

Squeeze squeeze squeeze

Bases loaded
If he pushes it...
Here comes the Cedeno double play
WOOOO.

FREE BASEBALL.

I wanted to see Saunders hit a walkoff GS

oh well

Me too.

…Me too.

Suicide squeeze!

Just kidding.

We're not scoring here are we?
All Ronny has to do is hit a fly ball
I can't say I'm at all confident.
And there we go!
This game is over if Saunders is left in.
I thought it was kinda silly to PH for him there. But oh well.
DO IT FOR AMERICA RON!
How do you let Cedeno hit here
Everyone else is injured?
Because Russell Branyan is our backup SS.
Cedeno K, followed by an annoying Ichiro groundout.
Just hit it to the outfield.
Now i want them to get out of the inning with no runs

just for the novelty of it

Keep the bat on your shoulder.

Don’t swing. Don’t hit into a double play.

I think I would've let Saunders hit

and PH Cedeno.

At this point I'd rather :(edeno just stuck out

and hope for Ichiro to work his magic.

And there we go.
Good god I'm amazing.
Fucking pathetic
Why didn't they PH for Ronny?
No one available to play shortstop.
Woodward to SS, Loafie to 2nd, Cedeno to LF

I’d assume

Maybe that was Cedeno's last at bat!
BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Trade them all, Jack! Trade them all!

TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to see Ichiro get the game-winning hit and run away from the mob.
He tried!
I was hoping he'd run all the way to the tunnel in center.
Fucking hell
I can't believe Wakamatsu didn't ban Ronny from swinging that whole AB
Or have him bunt

which he does very well, actually

The fact that everyone is cheering makes it much worse
:(:(:(:(:(:(edeno
Yeah... this had the feel of extras as soon as we loaded the bases.
I really hope we're getting Brignac
Me too, even if it's probably not going to happen.
Here it comes.....Ichiro grandslam
Send Ronny on the next plane to West Tennessee, please.
Here comes the game winning Ichiro hit
Oh, just hit it out and be done with it.
I remember Scott Downs from when he sucked
So four minutes ago?
You mean two batters ago?
Like getting Lopez and Cedeno is some display of mastery
SSS and all that, but from what I've seen of him this year, he's looking nasty.
He was traded for Mike Morgan!
wut
Scott Downs has been around for a long time
Ronny Cedeno is a living embodiment of the "there is no floor" concept
Steal home it's our only bestest chance
Ichi-Tastic!!!!!!
Ichiro looks terrible.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ICHIRO!
HE'S IN THE MOB!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LOSING STREAK OVER
ICHIROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That's how it's done!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH

FUCKERS!

Unbelievable
BALL GAME!

I LOVE ICHIRO!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ICHIRO!@!@$#@%!%#@!%
Whhooooooop a Bloooooop!!
THERE IT IS WEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAHAHAHAHAHA

ICHIRO MOB

...and now to find out where we sent Jeffie!
Damn, how did Sweeney get to Ichiro so fast?
He had to get out there to make sure no one else wallopped him

It turned into hug time, not GBH

Intangibles
YES YES YES YES YES
I didn't think that was going to happen.
Thanks Jarrod... see ya around.
My world is right when that man smiles.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Did he smile before he hit that!?!?
Ichiro is so uncomfortable.
Did you see him willingly give Sweeney a hug?
Sweeney has that effect on people.
HOLY ASS GIBLETS THAT JUST FUCKING HAPPENED
YES! I don't think I've ever seen an Ichiro walk-off.
Didn't he have one in the WBC?

Or am I misremembering?

Not a walk-off, but drove in the go-ahead run.
WBC hit was in the top of the 10th.
I've always felt that he avoids getting walk-off hits cause he wouldn't want everyone touching him.
SHOW LESS JOHNSON AND SHOW MORE ICHIRO
Ichiro's first EVER walk-off hit for the Ms!
Where's the tickle monster?
Ichiroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Jarrod is the name of a jewel store?
Jered.

You obviously didn’t go there.

This comment was not appreciated.
Fastest I have ever seen sweeney move

Was out there in a flash for mariner hug time

He subs as first base coach sometimes.
Will Brian Fuentes blow a consecutive save in the 9th 2 nights in a row?
Nope.
bases loaded, no out.
Bulger in to face V-Mart
Before Jeff yells at us. Cut it out!
I thought game threads were the proper place for this?
No idea. Just being cautious.
I think the gamethreads are ok.

This is where we should be talking about the Angels game.

I think she is referring to Fuentes being pulled.

But those runners are charged to him if they score.

Just doubted we'd be that lucky.

But I appreciate that you guys gave me more credit than I deserve!

Bases loaded, no outs, 7-5 Angels

Perhaps.

Only 6.5 out of the wild card!
You have to start somewhere!
All-Star closer!
Fuck the Indians
I wish Ichiro had just flat sprinted away. No one would ever catch him.
Holy shit I didn't see that Saunders catch.

Hot damn!

I was late too.

And I bet that was like redemption for him.

Was a trade announced? USSM seems to have crashed..
That just happens sometimes.
A ship can only stow so many.
No, based on Peter Gammons, Jack Z is about to announce they extend Jarrod Washburn's contract.
Positively not funny
Yet probably true.

Then Jack is going to blow our collective minds with a move the media never thought about.

Divish's line was:

“But remember many of the perceived deals that we thought Jack Z was going to make, end up being different than suspected. "

Really? Because I totally expected that 12 player three team trade. Won me a steak dinner.

He’s so predictable it’s annoying

Fag.
What are you doing, isn't is Tuesday? I thought that was bathhouse night for you
And where are you, doll?
Waiting at the bathhouse you bitch, I'm not used to being stood up
Mr Ess is too busy watching the Xanadu clips on YouTube
Like getting a chest wax and fake wings is difficult, this is Seattle
A million lights are dancing

and there you are, a shooting star, an everlasting world, and you’re here with me, eternally.

My wife told me that and then said, "You’re such a faggot.’ SIGH.

Now that I'm here, now that you're near ...
In Xanadu.
I hope you hit that high note.
Girl, you KNOW I did.
He hit that high note
People on mlbtraderumors

Are saying something about Jed Lowrie?

Bavasi isn't the GM anymore.
Sounds like a deal he would have made.
If those people are named anything but Tim Dierkes then who the hell cares.
Probably just 'cause of Ichiro.
Nothing that I'm aware of, people are just spamming refresh/comment buttons tonight.
Could be speculation about Jeff Clement
Oh Simms!

Thinking Johnson had a walk off homer!
Thinking Lopez won the game!
Hoping Washburn isn’t traded!
I love you, your silly hats, and that cute way you jump to conclusions and embarrass yourself.

It's Sims.

And he is awesome.

STOP SELLING WE WON.
CLEMENT, MORROW, TRI, AUMONT AND RAMIREZ FOR HALLADAY!

MAKE IT SO!

NO FUCK YOU - PLAYOFFS, BABY.
Halladay will quickly crush any hope you might have.
Them is fightin' words, Canuck!
My immediate thought after this game

Was that Ichiro badly deserves to win a WS

Great game

I don’t care if we’re ten thousands games back, this will always make me happy:

MLBTR is fucking nuts. Can't tell is its people trolling or telling the truth.
Assume trolling.
99% of the time, trolling.
You mean the front page, the comments, or both?
The front page isn't as blatantly terrible as the comments are

Pure trash. ugh.

The front page is fine for what it is, which is a link aggregator.

As long as you’re not a moron, it’s fine.

Thank you.
The comments in the Jeff clement rumor.
Why even go there.

SBN has their own rumors site now.

MLBTR is really, really good at what it does.

And what it does is collect links about ideas that probably won’t happen but are interesting to think about. Reading it is fun. Thinking that what you read is going to happen is a bad idea. And reading the comments is a flat-out awful idea.

You know there's a rule that if you visit that site you have to smoke the kind bud, right?
I actually almost shit my self. Then read the Darvish comments.
Tricks of the trade with Ronny Cedeno?

This will be the best tricks of the trade show since the Rob Johnson one.

They're covering turning a double play from the shortstop position.

Ronny seems okay at that.

They should just have Franklin do all of them.
I'd be cool with that.
The best thing he did this game was to strikeout and not GIDP at the bottom of the 9th.
Ronny Cedeno's tricks of the trade:

SWING SWING SWING SWING

Sigh.

Fuck the Angels… again.

But Boston lost, so we picked up 1 game in the wild card race.
Seriously, fuck them.

Texas, too. Neither team has any business winning that many games.

Well, neither do we.

But we can’t catch a break these last two weeks.

We have Gutierrez.

That’s reason enough to win 116 games

Sorry about the quality but I'm on a bad connection

Was Sweeney the first base coach?

Please tell me yes.

It's still beautiful.
If we hear that Ichiro suffered some kind of injury from that I'm gonna go crazy.
The best part is Sweeney goes for the high five and Ichiro just hugs him...
This is JI bad
Side ways hugs.
Awww. That's nice. In person I didn't notice.
I don't know if this has been brought up recently, but does anyone know how the Dustin Ackley signing is coming along?
No news until August 17. Boras style.
Yes it's all Scott Boras and totally not MLB refusing to sign off on way above slot deals until the signing deadline
Oh, is that what is taking so long?

Seems strange trying to keep players from getting back on the field.

Holding out for more money?
How would MLB be holding out for more money?
Sorry, I misread the comment.

I thought Boras was holding out for more money for his clients.

Announcing a massive above slot deal might mess with negotiations for the rest of the league
Yes.

Even if teams and agents have reached agreements, MLB won’t let them announce it for fear of the news inflating the market.

Does MLB have that kind of power over MLB transactions?

Also, does this mean that a team can sign a player whenever but not ANNOUNCE that they have signed him until MLB says they can, or does that mean that the team can’t SIGN the player until MLB says they can?

I'm not positive on the specifics of what's officially within the rules, but from what I understand, that's the way it's gone for years.
Why couldn't they just keep the numbers secret until the the deadline?
That would be a concession that the player's union hasn't given up so I don't think that's allowed
I'm not following.

Are you saying the player’s union is negotiating for the players and not the agent?

CBA rules govern the way the draft works
Poythress just signed, JY said Franklin's pretty close (I think), but Ackley's going until the 17th of August by all indications.
I wish more draftees were like Chipper Jones.

Sign a respectable contract and get yourself on the field to stay on top of development.

That would be stupid on their part.
Nick Franklin is an 18 year old who will hopefully never have a summer vacation again until he'sin his late 30s.

It’s not always about money.

This is a really good point, that I've never thought of.

It’s funny how baseball players (and athletes in general) are kinda viewed as robots.

Could always sign and give a date when to report.

Happens all the time in the business world.

And then you'd go back to the no development time thing
I am more concerned about the player signing and being committed.

Instead of taking everything down to the wire.

From what I understand there's no indication that Franklin will not sign, and that the cost will be reasonable

Therefore what’s the problem?

Franklin isn't who I specifically asking about (although it is good to know).

Everything cool on the Ackley front?

Ackley definitely won't be announced until the 17th

If he doesn’t sign for $5.5-6.5M I will eat my hat in Jeff Sullivan style

What's slot for 2nd overall?

$3.5?

Actually. yeah. I heard that you have a year or two to sign, somewhere. I think it was the Jake Locker situation.
Franklin the 2b from UNC?
Nvm, hes the high school kid?
Switch-hitting HS shortstop.
You're thinking of Kyle Seager, the left-handed UNC second/third baseman.
Who is already signed
And has struck out twice in two weeks
The Mariners won, but my ass still hurts as a fan.
If anyone cares....

Kazmir sat at 92-93 today….

But I somehow doubt that the Rays would have let him throw 113 pitches if he was out the door.

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in LAAanheim
Wash had 102. Not as bad but still quite a bit.

Are you saying that we’re not going to trade him?

Ok...

Washburn doesn’t have an extensive injury history….

113 isn't that many pitches
Not in this day and age of baseball?
Wash is 35.

Not exactly unbreakable.

Ok you win....

Any team looking at an oft injured pitcher that is being thrown in as a salary dump should be elated to have him ridden for 113 pitches….

Also want to prove he can throw that many
Well shoot...

why were we idiots by pull Bedard after 80? I’m sure he had 30 more left in him. Would have sent a solid message to the league.

He was hurt and ineffective

Kazmir was neither, and that game was very important to the Rays to boot. They’re also still in a pennant race.

I am not in Seattle. Did they interview Jarrod Washburn? What did he say?
I doubt he would say anything outside of the typical fluff.
Did we even consider that Clement might be coming up? As opposed to being traded?
Why would you take him out of the game for that?
You still don't want him to get hurt
Standard operating procedure for callups and trades.
That's a possibility. Salk just said "from what I've heard, he's not getting called up" though
Considered but unlikely
Jack Z does the impossible.....Trades Kenji for goodies
To the Royals, no less.
With Griffey and Branyan on the roster?

Doubt it.

Was thinking that Branyan could be going on the DL or something.
I'd think they'd call up Carp before Clement in that scenario.
He doesn't have really any place to play, does he?

The Mariners seem rather reluctant to do anything with Junior, first base has Branyan and we already have two other catchers.

But who are you taking him out for?

Still reeks of trade

Err

calling him up for

Could DL Griffey
Don't be a party pooper, Graham. :(
I'm kind of hoping Clement stays

I want Graham to live

Besides, we all know that Baron is our new catcher of the future. ;)
Baron has been awful
Salk saying basically SOMETHING is going to happen.

Might be Morrow, Washburn, or possibly your Postal Delivery Person. News at 11:00.

11pm news?
Bitch, it's 11;00 when Salk says it's 11:00.
2 more minutes.
I'm on Eastern time here

and I’m friggin tired. Any idea when any announcement will be?

No

And things usually aren’t announced this late anyway.

So, you might as well go to bed :)
WE JUST TRADED TRIUNFEL AND MORROW FOR IBANEZ AND BLOOMQUIST.
Whoopsie - My browser was set to "silly."
the midnight trade deadline was way more fun
About this Brignac guy? Is he a good hitter?
Looks pretty solid to me, but they are far smarter people on here who know more.
Brignac may cause LL to melt down if he's acquired
For a SS, yes
.350 wOBA in AAA
Doesn't seem to walk much.
Whoopdie goddamned doo he's well above league average for his level and is a good defensive SS.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/b/reid-brignac.shtml
Use the reply button, please

Also there is a much easier linking tool than just pasting a URL in the comment formatting area

My bad

I know about it, but the pretrade jitters make me stoopid

From Stone
Here’s what manager Don Wakamatsu said: “I just found out. I’m sitting here trying to get out of a four-game losing streak. If anything happens, I trust our organization in Jack Zduriencik’s hands. I don’t know any details beyond he was pulled,”

I don’t think we’re getting any news tonight.

I really do like Wak.

And it seems that he trusts Jack and Jack trusts him. That’s important.

Mike Salk has got to be the best postgame guy the Mariners have ever employed.
Sarcasm or no?

Should I not be turning my radio off immediately after the game?

He really is quite good.
That's the guy? He's pretty good, much better than Pittman/Hudler, phonetic spelling so nobody freak out
Please.
You idiot! This is the biggest deal I've ever encoutered on the web!
You sir are an internet warrior of the first order! I graciously retire, the field is yours!
My god you're like Hellen Keller.
With more awesome boobs,
Not sure whre that comma is going - I'll eave it for someone else.
Fuck my keyboard.
Salk is good...

but he’s been on the “What are we going to do about 2010 without Washburn!! We need to re-sign him!!!” kick that the rest of the Seattle media has been on.

But he's been really fair when others call in to argue that Washburn should be traded.

I don’t expect radio personalities to be perfect. The fact that he’s willing to listen to other schools of thought and admit that they’ve got a lot of merit is a huge improvement over what the Seattle market used to have.

And why not re-sign him?

Oops.

Mike Salk is awesome.
Ah, the first "Every guy who's left the Mariners has flourished" caller.

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