The Mariners first-round draft pick, 2nd overall, Dustin Ackley has signed. Details on the signing bonus are as of yet unknown, but for those people who were concerned that he might not sign, rest easy. Ackley is now a member of the Seattle Mariners organization. (Jeff's note: as you've heard, it's a $9.5m Major League contract. My first job after college paid me twelve dollars an hour.)
(Jeff's additional note: so according to Heyman, it's a $7.5m, five-year deal with $2m in escalator clauses, whatever that means. Ackley is still under team control for six years. Don't let the big league deal freak you out.)
(Jeff's final addition: From Jim Callis at BA, "Five-year major league deal, $6 million bonus, $1.5 million in guaranteed salaries, another $2.5 million possible in salaries depending on how quick he reaches the majors, $7.5 million total guaranteed." Let's go with that.)
No word yet on where Ackley will begin for reals, but your best bet is a week or so in Peoria to get back up to baseball speed after a few months off and then probably he joins Poythress in Double-A, but it will be interesting to see how the team handles it as they already have Gillies playing CF in High Desert and Carrera having a good season in CF in Double-A. How they shuffle the centerfielders in the system could tell us something about how they view the time tables for some of our mid-level prospects.
Then again, there is about two weeks left in the minor league season, so perhaps it will tell us nothing.
Another possibility that people are bound to talk about is Ackley at second base. Our system is certainly lacking in middle infield prospects, nearly at all levels and many have claimed that Ackley has the tools to make a successful transition to the keystone position. If the Mariners believe that he could adapt to second base quickly and without impeding his offensive ceiling, that might prove tempting to them, especially with Michael Saunders, Franklin Gutierrez and Ichiro Suzuki manning our outfield and under contract for quite awhile.
In the end, we get to trust them to make a better decision than the rest of us combined could ever hope to, so whatever, yay! Dustin Ackley!
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Woohoo!
seattlebruin - August 17, 2009
We really should have just set this to post at 9PM and it'd have looked like Matthew had a scoop
Graham MacAree - August 17, 2009
ACKLEY!!!
WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
I Lick Squirrels - August 17, 2009
Additional note
For anyone who’s concerned, no, a Major League contract doesn’t mean that Ackley’s a free agent any sooner. It just means that he’s immediately placed on the 40-man roster.
Jeff Sullivan - August 17, 2009
Why does this make a difference?
Does this just mean he automatically draws a major league paycheck from day one?
seattlebruin - August 17, 2009
Options
He has to be optioned down to the minors each year
Graham MacAree - August 17, 2009
So the $9.5 million is his salary over five years, and not technically a bonus?
Teej - August 17, 2009
Indeed
Jeff Sullivan - August 17, 2009
And let's say he doesn't reach any sort of contract-nulling benchmarks.
After five years of a set salary, does he go to arbitration for his last pre-free-agency paycheck?
Teej - August 17, 2009
Everything's the same
Here’s on possible scenario:
2010: in minors
2011: in bigs
2012: in bigs
2013: in bigs
2014: in bigs
After 2014, he will have two remaining years of arbitration/team control.
Jeff Sullivan - August 17, 2009
Got it.
Teej - August 17, 2009
Fucking finally
Jeff Sullivan - August 17, 2009
Seriously.
Teej - August 17, 2009
I was missing the totally obvious "years in the minors don't count as service time" thing.
Teej - August 17, 2009
I still don't get it
Dewey N - August 17, 2009
It would be easier to understand if it was in heat map form
Robert - August 17, 2009
Needs a gantt chart.
Scruffy Lefty - August 17, 2009
Here you go.
Phil Hatzenbuehler - August 18, 2009
Meaning that this buys out at least his first arb year
It’s a pretty nice deal
Graham MacAree - August 17, 2009
So is there any downside to bringing him up for a month with the big league club in September?
Decatur - August 17, 2009
Or a week or whatever, since he's already on the 40-man
Decatur - August 17, 2009
This year?
I…guess not? I probably wouldn’t play him much though. I’d just have him get used to the big league way of doing things.
Jeff Sullivan - August 17, 2009
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say.
Decatur - August 17, 2009
So what's the most likely scenario when Ackley is ready for the majors?
It seems like we’ve got a pretty solid OF for the next few years in Saunders/Guti/Ichiro. Will one of them get moved to DH/4th OF to make room for Ackley? Will he go to 1B or possibly 2B? Will someone get traded?
I Lick Squirrels - August 17, 2009
He should be ready by late next year, provided nothing funny happens to his defense
We’ll worry about the logjam when we get there.
Jeff Sullivan - August 17, 2009
We need a firstbaseman
Poochie - August 17, 2009
Poythress!
DKCecil - August 17, 2009
Carp!
Although he might be a suitable DH.
Wilder. - August 17, 2009
HR'd tonight, BTW...
As did Brad Nelson…
PositivePaul - August 17, 2009
Ackley for 3b!
Scruffy Lefty - August 17, 2009
A43!
I Lick Squirrels - August 17, 2009
Him learning second quickly would be the best because my god do we need a secondbaseman
Poochie - August 17, 2009
Shortstop!
Dewey N - August 17, 2009
I don't think he's going to take Wilson's job
Poochie - August 17, 2009
Josh Wilson is not good enough to keep a major league job
Dewey N - August 17, 2009
I think I mean Jack
Poochie - August 17, 2009
You don't
Dewey N - August 17, 2009
Where would Ackley be placed in the top 100 prospect list?
russak - August 17, 2009
Really high
Jeff Sullivan - August 17, 2009
It's worth pointing out that $1,5 million of this deal is $300K over 5 years
Graham MacAree - August 17, 2009
Uh I didn't mean to reply here but ok
Graham MacAree - August 17, 2009
So $8 million upfront, or that also paid in bunches?
Teej - August 17, 2009
Never mind, just saw Dave's not in the other thread.
Teej - August 17, 2009
Yeah, it seems like next season Strasburg would vault to #1 and Ackley being the consensus top position player in the draft shouldn't go lower than 20. Or even 10 probably.
Kenny Knows Sports - August 17, 2009
Hooray SMACKLEY!!!
Robert - August 17, 2009
CRACKLEY!
Kirk - August 17, 2009
I can't wait until Strasburg goes all Greg Oden on the Nationals while Ackely pulls a Durant.
Wilder. - August 17, 2009
Why do you want the Mariners to move to Oklahoma City?
DKCecil - August 17, 2009
FUCK CLAY BENNETT!!
I Lick Squirrels - August 17, 2009
In retrospect, I wish Durant had pulled an Oden and every other player in that draft pulled a Durant.
Kenny Knows Sports - August 17, 2009
If by goes all Greg Oden you mean be the best Rookie by PER last year, then that's cool.
joof - August 17, 2009
What a joke stat.
SethGrandpa - August 17, 2009
Pretty much the only advanced stat that doesn't suck ass.
joof - August 18, 2009
So, what is the definitive best player to compare Dustin Ackley's style of play to?
I hear how good he is and how he’s a future all-star and I get excited, but I haven’t heard what the best comparisons are if he’s super talented without much power yet. (Even though it seems like he hit a lot of HR’s at UNC.)
Kenny Knows Sports - August 17, 2009
I thought the Darin Erstad comps were fairly reasonable.
Kaorikaze - August 17, 2009
I thought the Markakis with slightly more range in the OF was a nice comp.
lailaihei - August 18, 2009
I just threw up a primer on Major League Contracts
if anyone is still confused.
davidcameron - August 17, 2009
Where?
SeattExPat - August 17, 2009
USSMariner.com
russak - August 17, 2009
In fact ...
here
msb - August 17, 2009
Oh
And James Paxton didn’t sign. Remember everyone freaking out that we passed on him to draft Franklin?
This is why that was dumb.
davidcameron - August 17, 2009
Remember everyone saying Matthew Purke was going to sign for less money with the Rangers
because he had connections with Nolan Ryan and such?
Oh…
Matthew - August 17, 2009
The commenters at LSB are sure handling it well
discovolante - August 17, 2009
They haven't threatened to kill him, sure
Gihyou - August 18, 2009
Error: Connection Failure
ThundaPC - August 18, 2009
What about the people who wanted Stassi instead of Baron?
lailaihei - August 18, 2009
And Scheppers IIRC
Graham MacAree - August 18, 2009
Stassi only got $500K more than Baron
seattlebruin - August 18, 2009
And is a significantly better talent
seattlebruin - August 18, 2009
50% more money
Graham MacAree - August 18, 2009
I thought we took Franklin so we could bust slot at 33
seattlebruin - August 18, 2009
I think we took Franklin because he's a badass shortstop
Graham MacAree - August 18, 2009
And whether you like it or not
I think the FO really likes Baron. I just don’t get the sense that they had the catching prospects stacked the same way on their board as the general consensus.
If our MiL hitting coaches are up to the job, we might be glad of it in a few years.
The Ancient Mariner - August 18, 2009
Yay!
I know everyone said don’t worry he’ll sign a last minute deal but I did not understand that last minute was not being used as a figure of speech. I got a little concerned as the last couple hours starting passing by but that just made this news a little bit happier.
Nate Dogg - August 17, 2009
Matthew, hopefully you're right,
I think that was a joke, and I think I love it.
kevin_ess - August 18, 2009
HOLY SHIT, PUJOLS.
kevin_ess - August 18, 2009
Just to get it out of the way now - ANAGRAMS!
1) Sultan Dickey
2) A Luck Destiny
3) Nice Adult Sky
4) Cute and Silky
5) Suck Ten Lady
6) Sack Duty Line
7) Yield Nut Sack
8) Nude Lay Stick
9) Lanky Ice Stud
10) Duty in El Sack
CapSea - August 18, 2009
I like 7.
joof - August 18, 2009
I dunno Duty In El Sack is up there.
Slurvey - August 18, 2009
I think #4 sounds like the slogan for a tampon.
craig3410 - August 18, 2009
I prefer Studly in Cake, myself
DKCecil - August 18, 2009
Ladies and gentlemen, as Craig Ferguson might say: it's a great day for America.
M’s get Ackley.
Nats get Strasburg.
Both sign reasonable, albeit pricey, deals.
Rangers get boned.
All is well.
esoteric - August 18, 2009
It would have been better had the Angels not signed Trout, but whatever.
You take what you can get, right?
Coach Owens - August 18, 2009
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