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Dustin Ackley Signs

The Mariners first-round draft pick, 2nd overall, Dustin Ackley has signed. Details on the signing bonus are as of yet unknown, but for those people who were concerned that he might not sign, rest easy. Ackley is now a member of the Seattle Mariners organization. (Jeff's note: as you've heard, it's a $9.5m Major League contract. My first job after college paid me twelve dollars an hour.)

(Jeff's additional note: so according to Heyman, it's a $7.5m, five-year deal with $2m in escalator clauses, whatever that means. Ackley is still under team control for six years. Don't let the big league deal freak you out.)

(Jeff's final addition: From Jim Callis at BA, "Five-year major league deal, $6 million bonus, $1.5 million in guaranteed salaries, another $2.5 million possible in salaries depending on how quick he reaches the majors, $7.5 million total guaranteed." Let's go with that.)

No word yet on where Ackley will begin for reals, but your best bet is a week or so in Peoria to get back up to baseball speed after a few months off and then probably he joins Poythress in Double-A, but it will be interesting to see how the team handles it as they already have Gillies playing CF in High Desert and Carrera having a good season in CF in Double-A. How they shuffle the centerfielders in the system could tell us something about how they view the time tables for some of our mid-level prospects.

Then again, there is about two weeks left in the minor league season, so perhaps it will tell us nothing.

Another possibility that people are bound to talk about is Ackley at second base. Our system is certainly lacking in middle infield prospects, nearly at all levels and many have claimed that Ackley has the tools to make a successful transition to the keystone position. If the Mariners believe that he could adapt to second base quickly and without impeding his offensive ceiling, that might prove tempting to them, especially with Michael Saunders, Franklin Gutierrez and Ichiro Suzuki manning our outfield and under contract for quite awhile.

In the end, we get to trust them to make a better decision than the rest of us combined could ever hope to, so whatever, yay! Dustin Ackley!

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We really should have just set this to post at 9PM and it'd have looked like Matthew had a scoop
ACKLEY!!!

WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Additional note

For anyone who’s concerned, no, a Major League contract doesn’t mean that Ackley’s a free agent any sooner. It just means that he’s immediately placed on the 40-man roster.

Why does this make a difference?

Does this just mean he automatically draws a major league paycheck from day one?

Options

He has to be optioned down to the minors each year

So the $9.5 million is his salary over five years, and not technically a bonus?
Indeed
And let's say he doesn't reach any sort of contract-nulling benchmarks.

After five years of a set salary, does he go to arbitration for his last pre-free-agency paycheck?

Everything's the same

Here’s on possible scenario:

2010: in minors
2011: in bigs
2012: in bigs
2013: in bigs
2014: in bigs

After 2014, he will have two remaining years of arbitration/team control.

Got it.
Fucking finally
Seriously.
I was missing the totally obvious "years in the minors don't count as service time" thing.
I still don't get it
It would be easier to understand if it was in heat map form
Meaning that this buys out at least his first arb year

It’s a pretty nice deal

So is there any downside to bringing him up for a month with the big league club in September?
Or a week or whatever, since he's already on the 40-man
This year?

I…guess not? I probably wouldn’t play him much though. I’d just have him get used to the big league way of doing things.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say.
So what's the most likely scenario when Ackley is ready for the majors?

It seems like we’ve got a pretty solid OF for the next few years in Saunders/Guti/Ichiro. Will one of them get moved to DH/4th OF to make room for Ackley? Will he go to 1B or possibly 2B? Will someone get traded?

He should be ready by late next year, provided nothing funny happens to his defense

We’ll worry about the logjam when we get there.

We need a firstbaseman
Poythress!
Carp!

Although he might be a suitable DH.

HR'd tonight, BTW...

As did Brad Nelson…

Him learning second quickly would be the best because my god do we need a secondbaseman
Shortstop!
I don't think he's going to take Wilson's job
Josh Wilson is not good enough to keep a major league job
I think I mean Jack
Where would Ackley be placed in the top 100 prospect list?
Really high
It's worth pointing out that $1,5 million of this deal is $300K over 5 years
Uh I didn't mean to reply here but ok
So $8 million upfront, or that also paid in bunches?
Never mind, just saw Dave's not in the other thread.
Yeah, it seems like next season Strasburg would vault to #1 and Ackley being the consensus top position player in the draft shouldn't go lower than 20. Or even 10 probably.
Hooray SMACKLEY!!!
I can't wait until Strasburg goes all Greg Oden on the Nationals while Ackely pulls a Durant.
Why do you want the Mariners to move to Oklahoma City?
FUCK CLAY BENNETT!!
In retrospect, I wish Durant had pulled an Oden and every other player in that draft pulled a Durant.
If by goes all Greg Oden you mean be the best Rookie by PER last year, then that's cool.
What a joke stat.
Pretty much the only advanced stat that doesn't suck ass.
So, what is the definitive best player to compare Dustin Ackley's style of play to?

I hear how good he is and how he’s a future all-star and I get excited, but I haven’t heard what the best comparisons are if he’s super talented without much power yet. (Even though it seems like he hit a lot of HR’s at UNC.)

I thought the Darin Erstad comps were fairly reasonable.
I thought the Markakis with slightly more range in the OF was a nice comp.
I just threw up a primer on Major League Contracts

if anyone is still confused.

Oh

And James Paxton didn’t sign. Remember everyone freaking out that we passed on him to draft Franklin?

This is why that was dumb.

Remember everyone saying Matthew Purke was going to sign for less money with the Rangers

because he had connections with Nolan Ryan and such?

Oh…

The commenters at LSB are sure handling it well
They haven't threatened to kill him, sure
Error: Connection Failure
What about the people who wanted Stassi instead of Baron?
And Scheppers IIRC
Stassi only got $500K more than Baron
And is a significantly better talent
50% more money
I thought we took Franklin so we could bust slot at 33
I think we took Franklin because he's a badass shortstop
And whether you like it or not

I think the FO really likes Baron. I just don’t get the sense that they had the catching prospects stacked the same way on their board as the general consensus.

If our MiL hitting coaches are up to the job, we might be glad of it in a few years.

Yay!

I know everyone said don’t worry he’ll sign a last minute deal but I did not understand that last minute was not being used as a figure of speech. I got a little concerned as the last couple hours starting passing by but that just made this news a little bit happier.

Matthew, hopefully you're right,
then probably he joins Poythress in Double-A

I think that was a joke, and I think I love it.

HOLY SHIT, PUJOLS.
Just to get it out of the way now - ANAGRAMS!

1) Sultan Dickey
2) A Luck Destiny
3) Nice Adult Sky
4) Cute and Silky
5) Suck Ten Lady
6) Sack Duty Line
7) Yield Nut Sack
8) Nude Lay Stick
9) Lanky Ice Stud
10) Duty in El Sack

I like 7.
I dunno Duty In El Sack is up there.
I think #4 sounds like the slogan for a tampon.
I prefer Studly in Cake, myself
Ladies and gentlemen, as Craig Ferguson might say: it's a great day for America.

M’s get Ackley.
Nats get Strasburg.
Both sign reasonable, albeit pricey, deals.
Rangers get boned.

All is well.

It would have been better had the Angels not signed Trout, but whatever.

You take what you can get, right?

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