According to multiple sources, and now listed on the Angels own team page.
The Rays will get pitcher Alexander Torres and third baseman Matthew Sweeney in return in the deal, which is expected to be announced later today.
I'll leave the prospecting to those better versed at it. The Angels will also presumably take on Scott Kazmir's contract, which calls for $8 million next year, $12 million in 2011, a $2.5 million buyout in 2012 or a $13.5M option. Kazmir is obviously a risk-reward guy at this point, with a lot depending on his health, but although he certainly can pitch to an extremely good level, his injury and effectiveness issues make me doubtful that he lives up to the remainder of his contract.
Still, he's young (just 25 this season), so him posting solid years over the next three or so seasons is not out of the question. I've thought about this for about a half hour now and I'm still not sure how I feel about the move as it relates to us.
2:15PM UPDATE: Now multiple people are saying this has fallen apart. Surprise!
3:15PM UPDATE: Now multiple people are saying this will get done within an hour or so.
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I will go on record and say that I am against this.
I am sure this will be thrown in my face when he pitches out of his mind in the postseason.
Eyebrows - August 28, 2009 via mobile
Apparently the current plan is that he's going to pitch out of the bullpen.
Which, if that’s the long term plan too uhhhh……
Matthew - August 28, 2009
GOD
Eyebrows - August 28, 2009 via mobile
Sorry Eyebrows ...
royalcurve - August 28, 2009
Buck up there kiddo
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Poochie - August 28, 2009
Fuck the Angels and all that.
Kirk - August 28, 2009
♥hugs♥
Eyebrows - August 28, 2009 via mobile
Sorry it had to be said.
I am actually unhappy with this trade as I like Kazmir and the Rays a lot. Seeing Kaz in an Angels uni is going to kill me.
Kirk - August 28, 2009
Torres sounds like he's the Angels version of Robles
Graham MacAree - August 28, 2009
He was on BA's latest hot sheet
link
JonBBT - August 28, 2009
This sounds like Robles..
JonBBT - August 28, 2009
It's just too bad that the Rays didnt get more.
Prospects that is. Anyway, I listen to TB radio all the time and I think Madden got the better of the deal.
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
Who is Madden?
Matthew - August 28, 2009
Former Angels manager and bench coach John Madden.
He retired from his tv gig recently and is now consulting for the Angels FO
Poochie - August 28, 2009
BAM!
pdb - August 28, 2009
Hahahaha.
I was unaware Maddon had any control whatsoever of the roster.
Tyler - August 28, 2009
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I like Kazmir too much for him to become a fucking Angel.
Do something M’s! DO SOMETHING STUPID!
I am done now…
Out of the bullpen though? Sounds stupid
Slurvey - August 28, 2009
Get Harden!
.Taylor - August 29, 2009
I don't like this.
On the chance that Kazmir can get it back together…well…that would royally suck.
SethGrandpa - August 28, 2009
Brent Gambill of MLB Home Plate saying reports that deal is done or imminent are "inaccurate"
for whatever that’s worth
JonBBT - August 28, 2009
Fallen through?
The link to the Angels Team Page now says the deal has fallen through. I think it could have been a good pick up for Anaheim, but obviously one with high risk. As an A’s fan, I’m happy to see the deal fall through.
el generico - August 28, 2009
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
Slurvey - August 28, 2009
The deal fell through
mlb.com.
But Madden and the Angels are still working on it according to 620wdae.com
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
First off, it's Maddon.
Second off, field managers don’t tend to negotiate trades.
Aaron Campeau - August 28, 2009
Maddon whaterver.
The door to his office is still closed according to the 620. Probably talking to Andrew Friedman or is it Freedmann?
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
Listen,
I appreciate that it’s not like most elsewhere, but here we put a lot of effort into having higher standards and part of that is in correctly spelling player/people names.
And when people correct you for getting fundamentally basic facts wrong, do try not to respond is a flippant manner. Acknowledge that you were wrong and try to avoid making the same mistake in the future.
Matthew - August 28, 2009
I hear you.
No more flippancy from me :)
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Slurvey - August 28, 2009
Sure.
The Angels will need someone to replace John Lackey in the “Just wait until he gets healthy” department.
ThundaPC - August 28, 2009
Does this mean the Angels had the highest waiver claim?
greymstreet - August 28, 2009
No.
He cleared waivers last month.
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
Is there a list of players who cleared somewhere?
greymstreet - August 28, 2009
I don't know.
I’m listening to the radio out of Tampa. Reporter in the locker room stated that the deal might still go down in the next half hour.
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
Nope
At least not officially. Waiver wire is only for teams to look at. Anything you here about players on waivers is leaked by teams, usually for a reason. Unless of claim is completed you won’t know anything official. Some sites have list of players compiled from reports though
Trenchtown - August 28, 2009
Wouldn't that be Alex Rios?
Decatur - August 30, 2009
BTW, Joel Sherman is saying this deal is actually done.
So I guess just stay tuned and something should be known in the next couple hours.
Matthew - August 28, 2009
620 reports.
Andrew Friedman will be on at 6:30 ET at the start of the pre-game broadcast with some kind of announcement.
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
Sounds like another player or two heading to TB in addition to Sweeney and Torres
JonBBT - August 28, 2009
This could go from a good to a great deal for them if so.
I already like it from their end.
Matthew - August 28, 2009
6:30 broadcast started
No GM Friedman. No news. Just speculation.
My guess: Angels want TB to pay some of his contract money so they can pay Carl Crawford.
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
What you just said doesn't make any sense.
Eyebrows - August 28, 2009 via mobile
First time for everyhthing.
andrewgolfsalot - August 28, 2009
just commenting on what I heard.
Good luck with Oakland tonight. ;)
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
Why would the Angels want the Rays to pay money, so the Angels can then pay Carl Crawford?
Especially when Carl Crawford is not on the Angels.
R.J. Anderson - August 28, 2009
You should pay me money to be a fan of Scott Kazmir.
Please make him good again, too.
Eyebrows - August 28, 2009 via mobile
Most of the people at DRB seem to think Friedman just screwed up.
Because they’ve known these players for two hours now and know every single thing about them thanks to John Sickels 15 words and letter grade.
R.J. Anderson - August 28, 2009
But it's so informative and in-depth.
russak - August 28, 2009
yeah.
that part made no sense I agree. The Rays want to get rid of most of Kaz’s contract to free up money for CC.
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
You were making a "guess"
that the Angels wanted Tampa Bay to pay the Angles money to pay for Carl Crawford, a player who doesn’t play for the Angels.
andrewgolfsalot - August 28, 2009
Marc Topkin (our beat writer) is still saying it should be announced soon.
Tyler - August 28, 2009
Psh Kazmir that loser? He sucks.
Slurvey - August 28, 2009
620 WDAE
reporting that no trade will be announced until after the game tonight. Rays and Detroit in rain delay…
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
Is there a chance that he will be able to pitch on Monday?
Robert - August 28, 2009
His next start was scheduled for 9/1.
R.J. Anderson - August 28, 2009
Someone's worried about a bet.
andrewgolfsalot - August 28, 2009
So is it a fucking deal or what?
MLB.com says NOPE! But everyone else is treating him like an Angel of 10 years.
OceanBird - August 28, 2009
If you are taking mlb.com as a legitimate source of information I have pity on your soul.
Eyebrows - August 28, 2009
Olney just said it's done.
The two aforementioned prospects + a PTBNL.
andrewgolfsalot - August 28, 2009
I guess it got done
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/8/28/1006486/rays-officially-trade-scott-kazmir
According to them.
apalach007 - August 28, 2009
Money considered, I think I like it for the Rays.
I like Kaz, but I don’t have much faith in him returning to his old ways. And even his old ways were frustrating to watch. He was effective, but never confidence-inspiring.
Teej - August 28, 2009
If we're talking about his old ways as in 2007, there was nothing frustrating about him.
He was absolutely on his way to being a legitimate ace. Unfortunately, his elbow had other plans.
Tyler - August 29, 2009
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