I'm not a Wilson expert, other than I remember him being pretty filthy as a closer.
So I went to fangraphs, and it appears that he has 5 pitches he uses with regularity and they are all above average. He is most certainly far behind Cliff Lee as an overall pitcher, and my understanding or interpretation of the fangraphs pitch values may be off, but it seems like he’s got some pretty good “stuff”
I think of “stuff” as velocity and movement. Lots of guys have amazing “stuff” but can’t control it. Tell me one of Lee’s pitches that you see and go “holy crap, did you see that?!?” like a Felix curve, or a Chapman fastball, or a Liriano slider.
I don’t think you can really dissociate the two when it comes to breaking balls, but probably you’re right. Although, the changeup is awesome and I stand by that.
but it takes a good amount of research to know the teams well enough to rattle on about their players over several three-hour ballgames on the radio and not be deadly repetitive.
You should hear him to play-by-play for Toronto games.
He makes Tim McCarver look like an early adopter of sabermetric ideas. I can’t count the times he said “Jose Bautista really knows how to drive in runs,” completely ignoring that the guy batting behind him had 30 HR and only 87 RBIs and somehow that wasn’t incongruous to Buck.
Okay, to take the Lee/Wilson stuff argument way too seriously
best way I can think of to measure ‘stuff’ is overall contact rate and out of zone swing rate. Wilson is below average in both categories and Lee is better than him at both.
"I can honestly say that I'm not the best guy to do the job. If I could run in the least at this point or even hit at this point, trust me, I would be out there," Baldelli said. "But I have to look at myself and be honest."
I'd like to see the episode of Intervention where Josh's teammates confront him.
Ron Washington “Josh, your sobriety has affected me in the following ways: I am no longer able to get coke on a nightly basis without having to make dangerous trips to the ghetto. You used to be the main hookup and now it’s like you don’t care about anybody but yourself. Will you accept this back of crack cocaine?”
Fairly: You know, the tricky thing about baseball is hitting the ball with the bat and making the ball go somewhere where no other players are standing.
Madden: I once saw Bret Favre in the showers at the YMCA in Addison.
Fairly: Yeah, the thing about footballs is they’re not really balls because balls are round.
On a unrelated note, I have never before heard the term “brain” used as a verb until you used it and no later than 3 minutes after you did my best friend from High School called and randomly used it as well.
It's kind of a surprise, he's a better contact guy than, say, Jim Thome, and he had to move down to first. It's not exactly the type of guy you expect to be done at 34.
Am I the only one who has fantasies of winning a Super Bowl or World Series?
I’ve never felt such unbridled joy before, so the world is my oyster. I imagine it will be similar to my “I Won the Lotto Parties!” that I have in my head.
Yeah, I agree, he’ll be the one to get us to the Super Bowl this year.
We are going to the Super Bowl, I don’t care if we are 7-9 to finish the year. That’s all it takes. If those idiot Cardinals were one play away from a ring 2 yearrs ago, we can certainly do it.
I love Stokely. He has overcome such great obstacles to become a great WR because he was not gifted as much as the other athletes and therefore he is a harder worker.
Given that I am a Mariners fan much like lemonverbena
and that the Texas Rangers are in the same division as the Mariners, it seems as if my first priority would be for a division rival to do poorly, thus allowing the Mariners to do better.
because Texas has always been fairly attractive since a lot of players live in/are from the south, and the team has traditionally had money to spend. I’d be more worried that they have $ to lure free agents than guys suddenly being attracted to a winning team.
but not necessarily what will happen. It depends on the reaction from the people in Texas (attendance and media money) as well as the financial decisions of the new owners.
The Yankees are going to be good no matter what. The jury is still out on wither the Rangers will have sustained success but going to the World Series will do nothing but help them with that.
The Yankees have won the AL pennant like 40 times and at least 6 times in your lifetime.
The Rangers are one of two teams beside the Mariners to never have been to the World Series. I would much rather a team that has always won and will always win than being one of the two most futile teams in baseball history.
JaymeeSireCSN – Tomorrow’s #Braves SP Tommy Hanson fouled a ball off the plate during BP that bounced up and hit him in eye. Immediately walked off field.
changing speeds on his fastball, missing by tiny tiny margins, cutters n shit. It’s cool that, even though he isn’t throwing 96 anymore he still makes guys look real stupid
I rinsed out this glass after drinking a bloody mary so I could put a beer in it but there's still a teensy bit of horseradish floating around in there
CJ Wilson and Andy Pettitte could be 2010 Photo MVP's.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Pettitte's picture reminds me of Botticelli's Venus.
So mysterious… I have no idea what it’s trying to convey to me.
Joe Metro - October 7, 2010
Andy Pettitte is Mr. Burns as an alien
Jeff Sullivan - October 7, 2010
Sweet jesus, that is the superior comparison.
Joe Metro - October 7, 2010
That's just because he is floating in whole milk
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
That was one of my favorite game threads from last season.
JY - October 7, 2010
Always my favorite description.
msb - October 7, 2010
Unfortunately I think they had the same photos in 2009
Jeff Sullivan - October 7, 2010
CJ Wilson should win, no question.
Eyebrows - October 7, 2010 via mobile
At first I had to remind myself that's not Colby Lewis because I would figure Colby Lewis to have a Fu-Manchu.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
I wish we knew the REAL stories behind some of these pictures.
I want to know about Wilson and CC Sabathia.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
There's always the opportunity to make up fake stories that are just as fun.
I think Carl Pavano’s photographer told him “You’re a sexy tiger”
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
And Andy Pettitte looks like he's looking at Carl Pavano
marc w - October 7, 2010
They must have told him "Okay Andy, on 3. 1.." and then they took the photo.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Who are six guys what can go fuck themselves
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I have nothing against Lincecum.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
I love Lincecum.
InSpokane - October 7, 2010
Fair point
I just resent SF very deeply.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Andy Pettitte looks like he is being lowered to earth by a tractor beam.
InSpokane - October 7, 2010
First game starts soon, right?
Thingray - October 7, 2010
~15 minutes.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Let me MLB.com that for you
Matthew - October 7, 2010
Wait, what does soon mean?
Matthew - October 7, 2010
Yes
abender20 - October 7, 2010
"Wilson may have better stuff than Cliff Lee"
msb - October 7, 2010
What is something Tim McCarver would say?
schismatix - October 7, 2010
What is something Buck Martinez has said?
msb - October 7, 2010
Awesome.
I feel bad for the casual fans who actually listen to and believe whatever the broadcasters say.
schismatix - October 7, 2010
You're describing my first 20 years of life. (At least)
Kids believe the darndest things!
Though, in this case – I think on a certain level Buck Martinez has a point.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
I think we've all been through it at some point.
Live and learn!
schismatix - October 7, 2010
Lee doesn't have the most amazing "stuff".
He just controls it better than anyone except for Halladay.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Eeeeh his stuff is pretty fucking good
certainly better than Wilson’s. Wilson isn’t that good a pitcher.
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Yeah, I can't figure out what Wilson has that qualifies as great "stuff".
Thingray - October 7, 2010
I'm not a Wilson expert, other than I remember him being pretty filthy as a closer.
So I went to fangraphs, and it appears that he has 5 pitches he uses with regularity and they are all above average. He is most certainly far behind Cliff Lee as an overall pitcher, and my understanding or interpretation of the fangraphs pitch values may be off, but it seems like he’s got some pretty good “stuff”
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
What do you mean above average?
if you’re going by the pitch values ignore those. They are based on pitch results and Wilson’s had a flukey low babip year.
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Define "stuff"
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
According to my dictionary:
Things.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Define "things".
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Can you explain the part where you said the stuff about the things?
You know.. the things.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Whatever "things" are, I heard they go better with coke.
ToddK - October 7, 2010
Seriously though,
I think of “stuff” as velocity and movement. Lots of guys have amazing “stuff” but can’t control it. Tell me one of Lee’s pitches that you see and go “holy crap, did you see that?!?” like a Felix curve, or a Chapman fastball, or a Liriano slider.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Fastball, curve, changeup
I love Lee’s curve.
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
All of his pitches are good.
But none of them make me go “WOW!”. The location of the pitches is what blows me away.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Alright
I don’t think you can really dissociate the two when it comes to breaking balls, but probably you’re right. Although, the changeup is awesome and I stand by that.
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
It is a great change.
I think that might be the hardest pitch in baseball to truly appreciate.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
That's the thing
It’s just a throwaway phrase for lazy talking heads like Buck Martinez.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I can get on board with this.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
I hear ya.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Cocknballs
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
There's only one Cocktober.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
There's also Dickcember though
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
This year the playoffs will go into Nov-member.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
And Nobvember...
marc w - October 7, 2010
Spring Training is in March.
And I got nothin’.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Lee may have better control
Poochie - October 7, 2010
Hamilton: five changeups, three swinging strikes.
Shields… he’s okay.
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Oh boy. Now he's got "Electric stuff"
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
He's also throwing heat and freezing up hitters.
Clearly some kind of mutant.
JY - October 7, 2010
.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Great, now I'm hungry for an electrified burrito.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Oh great now they're in our food now.
JY - October 7, 2010
now now now, now now now now
JY - October 7, 2010
Ow now brown cow.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Really, CJ WIlson and Cliff Lee could not be more different
Poochie - October 7, 2010
Buck Martinez annoys me because he has Cheif Wiggums' voice and is annoying and unlikeable
Poochie - October 7, 2010
I have no idea how they choose broadcasters.
I think 50% of the people here right now could do a better job than 75% of the people they use for sports broadcasting.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
I want to hear Christopher Walken call a game.
It doesn’t even have to be baseball.
JY - October 7, 2010
Maybe on the TV
but it takes a good amount of research to know the teams well enough to rattle on about their players over several three-hour ballgames on the radio and not be deadly repetitive.
Two Rs and Two Ls - October 7, 2010
Maybe on the TV
but it takes a good amount….. Maybe you’re right.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
TV adds 15 pounds.
of bullshit.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
You should hear him to play-by-play for Toronto games.
He makes Tim McCarver look like an early adopter of sabermetric ideas. I can’t count the times he said “Jose Bautista really knows how to drive in runs,” completely ignoring that the guy batting behind him had 30 HR and only 87 RBIs and somehow that wasn’t incongruous to Buck.
Llewdor - October 7, 2010
HE NEVER STOPS TALKING
Poochie - October 7, 2010
There are definitely flashes of Wiggum
But he sounds more like Peter Gammons to me.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Okay, to take the Lee/Wilson stuff argument way too seriously
best way I can think of to measure ‘stuff’ is overall contact rate and out of zone swing rate. Wilson is below average in both categories and Lee is better than him at both.
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
I would love to watch Buck Martinez' eyes glaze over at hearing "overall contact rate" or "out of zone swing rate"
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Nelson Cruz:
acquired for Julian Cordero (who?), Francisco Cordero, Kevin Mench and Laynce Nix. Carlos Lee was part of the deal but whatever.
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Even Kevin Mench couldn't wrap his head around that one
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Few things can get wrapped around that noggin.
msb - October 7, 2010
Carl Pavano looks liike how the guys on Jersey Shore think they look.
CJ Wilson looks like how the guys on Jersey Shore actually look.
Llewdor - October 7, 2010
Poor Rocco.
msb - October 7, 2010
"I can honestly say that I'm not the best guy to do the job. If I could run in the least at this point or even hit at this point, trust me, I would be out there," Baldelli said. "But I have to look at myself and be honest."
msb - October 7, 2010
I thought he was fine as long as he didn't play several days in a row?
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Not this time
it seems
msb - October 7, 2010
Poor guy...
Thingray - October 7, 2010
He lives a pretty modern life.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Reached way too far for this reference.
Goose - October 7, 2010
Tropicana Field looks like an extremely boring ballpark experience
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
"He knows how to play small ball"
“In the postseason you have to face tough pitchers, and you have to be able to manufacture runs.”
Thanks, Buck.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Aw suck it Rays
Poochie - October 7, 2010
His stuff is now weapons
FaceRuiner - October 7, 2010
CJ Wilson needs to trust his stuff
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
GIANTS!
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Robert - October 7, 2010
GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
I have to work this afternoon
FaceRuiner - October 7, 2010
There was supposed to be a frowny face in this post
FaceRuiner - October 7, 2010
So you ruined your face?
ToddK - October 7, 2010
Booo
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I feel so contrarian for living here and conciously rooting against both the Padres and Chargers
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Though I would root for the Padres or Chargers before 85% of the teams in either of their respective leagues
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
It was brutal when the Seahawks were in the AFC West
Quite a few objects and expletives were hurled at me at those games.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
The Seahawks and Chargers are literally the exact same team over there history.
Robert - October 7, 2010
Pretty damn close but we got those fuckers by 3 wins and 16 points
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
When I wore my Jose Lopez jersey to Petco, people just looked at me like I was an idiot
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
And by "people," I mean abender20 and Teej
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Boring
Poochie - October 7, 2010
Their stadium is so pretty though!
Robert - October 7, 2010
And they are made of awesome
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
And the fans are fired up.
InSpokane - October 7, 2010
It's a weekday game indoors
They probably just snuck out of work, still thinking about that really boring meeting that is still going on in the conference room.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
I'm glad we have some of you guys on our side
Thanks!
baetown415 - October 7, 2010
Based on your SBN profile, you must really hate Brian Sabean
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Hate is a strong word
Vehemently dislike Sabean? Although if the Giants win the World Series, all will be forgiven… until the next Sabean blunder.
baetown415 - October 7, 2010
Fuck you, Shields.
drblacknwhite - October 7, 2010
Mariners!
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
Good thing I don't like Rays or this would be pretty annoying.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
I was hoping the Texas Senators would languish in postseason failure for another 30 years
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I also hoped Ron Washington would have a bout of Tourette's during that interview
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Needs more Coke.
joof - October 7, 2010
Where is Dr. Rockso when you need him?
Thingray - October 7, 2010
He already has Josh Hamilton.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
But Hamilton bailed on him.
Shitty wingman that guy.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
I'd like to see the episode of Intervention where Josh's teammates confront him.
Ron Washington “Josh, your sobriety has affected me in the following ways: I am no longer able to get coke on a nightly basis without having to make dangerous trips to the ghetto. You used to be the main hookup and now it’s like you don’t care about anybody but yourself. Will you accept this back of crack cocaine?”
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
I want the Mariners to be the leaders in something.
Most years without ever going to the World Series?
But for fewest playoff wins, the Rangers still have a ways to go.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
This game needs more crippling failure from the Rangers.
joof - October 7, 2010
There you go!
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Fuck Texas.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
It might take a while, but I will.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Don't Fuck All of Texas
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Dude, my sister lives there.
Keep your damn hands off her.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Whoops - forgot to tell you she said hi.
Good with a lariat, that one.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
You're odds might be greater than other states since everything is bigger in Texas.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
So in theory, Yakima is an extension of Texas.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
The Rays should jump start their efforts by wearing their Columbia Blues.
Robert - October 7, 2010
It's a boy!
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Thanks for that recap of the game Ron.
I had actually left my desk, so that helped.
msb - October 7, 2010
Wouldn't it be cool to have a second baseman capable of hitting homers?
abender20 - October 7, 2010
Like when Jose Lopez played second?
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Who?
abender20 - October 7, 2010
No not him. He is just another fucking terrible former Mariner.
abender20 - October 7, 2010
25 dingers!
joof - October 7, 2010
Needs more ailing family members.
Favre-itis is a terrible, terrible disease. But damned if you don’t play better when someone you love dies.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
THREE IN ONE GAME!
THREE!!!!
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
High Five!
joof - October 7, 2010
I think you meant high three
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Seems it wouldn't be as satisfying.
joof - October 7, 2010
He thinks he's a ninja turtle
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
He's bad and you should be happy he is gone
Poochie - October 7, 2010
I had to talk him out of a Luke French jersey in April or May.
abender20 - October 7, 2010
No you didn't
I never was more than 30% to buy it
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I would have bought a Byrnes UCLA jersey first
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
That's 30% of your brain that needs to be removed.
abender20 - October 7, 2010
There goes motor skills and bowel control!
joof - October 7, 2010
ONE OF US...
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Or a short stop?
Or a third baseman? Or an outfield?
FaceRuiner - October 7, 2010
Yeah, as long as he doesn't flip his bat on fly outs to the warning track and frost his hair
Poochie - October 7, 2010
I would give anything to have vintage Bret Boone back.
abender20 - October 7, 2010
Who wouldn't?
Poochie - October 7, 2010
Dr. Anthony Galea.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Vintage Bret Boone was terrible except three years
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Not true!
Poochie - October 7, 2010
Gee I wonder which Bret Boone I was talking about
abender20 - October 7, 2010
I don't know, which one were you talking about?
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
The good one
abender20 - October 7, 2010
The one that was drunk and full of dinger drugs
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
God, that was a good night.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
What about the decent one that played from 1994-95, 1998-2000, and 2004?
Poochie - October 7, 2010
Okay!
abender20 - October 7, 2010
Allstar in 99!
Robert - October 7, 2010
HOME RUN DERBY!
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Dan Wilson?
joof - October 7, 2010
Gee I wonder which Bret Boone I was talking about
abender20 - October 7, 2010
I don't know, which one were you talking about?
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
My head is hurty.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
The bad one
abender20 - October 7, 2010
My head is hurty.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
I'm not used to a broadcast where I am not told how wonderful Michael Young is every time he comes up to bat.
msb - October 7, 2010
Well he is white
Poochie - October 7, 2010
That mean's he is a hard-worker and made the most out of his non-God-given abilities!
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Imagine a tandem of John Madden and Ron Fairly.
Fairly: You know, the tricky thing about baseball is hitting the ball with the bat and making the ball go somewhere where no other players are standing.
Madden: I once saw Bret Favre in the showers at the YMCA in Addison.
Fairly: Yeah, the thing about footballs is they’re not really balls because balls are round.
Madden: I love Bret Favre’s balls.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
I knew the Rays would be a terrible playoff team
Poochie - October 7, 2010
I'm sorry.
But BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
Michael Young exists solely to piss off Mariners fans.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Shields is quite the renaissance man
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
There were some cherce words used by the Rangers on my audio feed.
msb - October 7, 2010
Several very audible 'FUCK YEAH's
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Worse words coming out of Shields, it would appear
FaceRuiner - October 7, 2010
Not to mention Joe Maddon.
msb - October 7, 2010
Not like I blame 'em
FaceRuiner - October 7, 2010
ANGER!
joof - October 7, 2010
James Shields seems really happy to have been taken out of the game
FaceRuiner - October 7, 2010
Entertainment!
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
Go get em, Joe!
drblacknwhite - October 7, 2010
So the Rays are boned.
Goose - October 7, 2010
Get your money's worth, Joe!
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Go Rangers!
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
Well I guess this series is over.
May as well accept our new AL west overlords for the next few seasons at least. God dammit.
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Rays are still in this
they just have to not lose to Cliff Lee again is all
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Show me the CarFax.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Young definitely should have been rung up on appeal
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Bahaha! Replay chant!
joof - October 7, 2010
Ignorant bastards should be chanting "Robots"
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Replay can't fix checked swings you moron
Poochie - October 7, 2010
If I would a Tampa fan, I would be livid right now
FaceRuiner - October 7, 2010
I would if I too.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Normally I'd have the urge to suggest you use the subjunctive
but really we’re talking about Tampa fans so the conditional is appropriate.
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Testicles to my typos
FaceRuiner - October 7, 2010
sucks to your ass-mar
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
If you were a Tampa fan, you won't find out about this until December.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
The Rays are playing like the Mariners.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Fuck this noise
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
The Rangers have outscored the Rays 11-1.
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
...
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Weeeeeeeeeeeeee!
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
Remember when we used to say,
we’re not in the playoffs, but at least we’re not the Rangers.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
REFUSE TO LOSE! 2 OUTS? SO WHAT!
YOU GOTTA LOVE THESE GUYS!
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
I think I've discovered that Tina Fey has been writing our last ten seasons.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
I don't know anything about that, but I do know Ms. Fey is still a top babe.
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
I'd let her call the plays at this point.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
I don't think anyone's surprised, either
FaceRuiner - October 7, 2010
He said Choate.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Words with an "o" or "i" in the first syllable give Buck Martinez trouble
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I figured the Rays would kick ass against the guy who led the league in walks...
Poochie - October 7, 2010
Young's check-swing
via one Jeff Sullivan on SB Nation
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I like your avat-R.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Would you enjoy dating it?
joof - October 7, 2010
Naw, just one sloppy night and no phone call.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Hawt.
joof - October 7, 2010
There's more than one way to down 12 Rainiers.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Those helmets with the bendy straws, for instance
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Yeah, you go on being all heterosexual 'n shit.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Thanks
From an old Seattle Rainiers font, obviously.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
There's no defined rule as to what is/ is not a checked swing. It's a complete judgement call.
You couldn’t review it
Poochie - October 7, 2010
Point being, the umps judgement was shitfire wrong in this case
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
If this happened to the Mariners it may dethrone this site's logo picture.
Happybelly - October 7, 2010
I bet you it wouldn't.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
You're probably right. I'm just trying to give an example of the meltdown we would have over it.
Happybelly - October 7, 2010
Care to make a friendly wager, friendo?
abender20 - October 7, 2010
Definitely not, I don't think it would happen.
Happybelly - October 7, 2010
How are the Rays so bad at offense?
joof - October 7, 2010
Joe Maddon Fielded a call from Jack Z.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Why did you capitalize the F, dickweed?
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
These early games are fucking up my shit.
the other side - October 7, 2010
Is it green or something?
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Flagged
unwarranted hostility
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Flagged
asseyes
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Flagged.
Bro-hug.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Flagged
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Go flag yourself.
Bro-hug.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Can you come over and check?
the other side - October 7, 2010
I'm currently in Thingray's shrubs.
…just, y’know, making sure the foundation of the house looks good.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Rangers get a new FSports deal. Rangers light up Rays. Cliff Lee apparently warming to staying in Texas.
Yeah, the AL West might not be fun for a while.
tait644 - October 7, 2010
That would really tick off all the Yankee fans
which is always a good thing.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
NOT WHEN IT MAKES OUR TEAM WORSE
Robert - October 7, 2010
WHY DON'T PEOPLE GET THIS?
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
I DON'T KNOW BUT WHAT ON EARTH
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
When do we get our shiny new deal w/FSN, by the way?
tait644 - October 7, 2010
In ten years.
Robert - October 7, 2010
Rumor has it the M's and Nick Jr. are in talks.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Shitty comedy with a bunch of affable kids and one 40-year-old Japanese dude who doesn't like to speak English
= GOLD
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Sounds like the GI Joe movie
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
I bet Sportacus would maket this team better.
Two Rs and Two Ls - October 7, 2010
We're going to end up on Oxygen with a special before each game about Josh Lueke
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Better yet we'll sign a deal with Oprahs new network.
That way we know 20 million people will watch no matter how pointless and shitty the product is.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
We will have to give things to the fans who show up for the tapings though
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Everybody in the audience is getting a Franklin Gutierrez FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECCEEEE!!!!
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
This would be a "buy low" moment for the broadcaster
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
It would be much more fun if we were good.
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
Slogan for 2011?
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
I like it
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I should have included this in my subject line.
tait644 - October 7, 2010
I.e., "We Suck"
tait644 - October 7, 2010
REFUSE TO LOSE
NO MEANS YES
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
This will also mesh well with all the refuse to abuse stuff
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
With Lueke as narrator....
tait644 - October 7, 2010
Only if we get Chris Hanson as his surprise co-host.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
What does yes mean?
joof - October 7, 2010
It means you buy the Rainiers and get here as soon as you can.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
It's okay. This game is giving everyone the runs.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Not Tampa, though.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Is it possible for you to go 15 minutes without a poop joke?
Matthew - October 7, 2010
Many days actually, Matthew.
The above post was a reference to another post.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
I'm the poop joke man around here.
ess is just a rookie.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Oh, don't go on getting yourself in trouble with the base humor.
Matthew got four recs for shutting my dumb ass up.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Oh crap.
I totally wasted my time then. That’s shitty.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Fuck you, those dolphins are not just outside the ballpark
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
It's a sad world when dolphins stoop to scalping.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Giants are even closer.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
I figured that one was self-evident
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Detroit is close, but no dolphins.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
So is Pittsburgh.
But again, no dolphins.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
There are certainly no dolphins in the San Francisco Bay.
InSpokane - October 7, 2010
The other guys in the grey suits hang out there
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Bankers and Lawyers?
InSpokane - October 7, 2010
Think slightly more predatory
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Sharktopus?
c_dowley - October 7, 2010
I know. It was a failed bankers and lawyers are and ruthless as sharks joke. .
InSpokane - October 7, 2010
That should read, as ruthless.
InSpokane - October 7, 2010
Oh it worked, just not on me
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Furries?
joof - October 7, 2010
Seals?
JY - October 7, 2010
Snacks for the guys in the grey suits
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
How are the Rays so bad.
joof - October 7, 2010
They play in the AL East.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
But, pressurrrrrrrrrrrrrre!
tait644 - October 7, 2010
Fucking joke of a division. Too easy to play in that crap.
joof - October 7, 2010
Somebody plug TBS back in
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Fuck you, Michael Young.
abender20 - October 7, 2010
But probably safe.
abender20 - October 7, 2010
I do miss not getting the re-plays of action on the post-season feed
msb - October 7, 2010
BJ Upton needs to go on a 2008 playoffs dinger rampage.
joof - October 7, 2010
McCarver just claimed that Hamilton's jump and route were perfect but he just couldn't get there.
abender20 - October 7, 2010
McCarver needs to come to my bar so I can fill him up with Bacardi 151 then set him ablaze.
Think of the tips I would receive.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
You would not receive any tips, you would go to jail.
Kirk - October 7, 2010
Thank you for that very sobering outlook on reality.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Kirk, it never ceases to amaze me that you always have my back.
::Knuckle-bump::
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Shut up and stop complaining when people point out your terrible comments.
Robert - October 7, 2010
HI ROBERT.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Stop it Robert. Stop it Kirk. Stop it Kevin.
If LL devolves into 2008 when regulars were at each others throats all the time I’m gonna brain all three of you.
Sec 108 - October 7, 2010
Brains?!?!?
Now I’m hungry..
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Noted
On a unrelated note, I have never before heard the term “brain” used as a verb until you used it and no later than 3 minutes after you did my best friend from High School called and randomly used it as well.
Robert - October 7, 2010
Thing is Hamilton's just not a very good athlete
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
I was under the impression that he was a crap center fielder particularly since he played left all year
Poochie - October 7, 2010
If the Rays can score a few runs here, the fan will go wild!
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
I love that this isn't a typo.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Remember when they were threatening to move the M's there?
That seems weird now.
JY - October 7, 2010
Ironic?
Fuck, I don’t know anymore.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Cruel irony, because the Sonics did move to an even more ridiculous destination
: (
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Rays are having a really bad series.
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
Shut the fuck up Shoppach, that was damn near right down the middle.
The Rays are a bunch of whiny bitches aren’t they?
Goose - October 7, 2010
Their responses to calls against them had me rooting for the Rangers in mid-game.
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
Same here. I'm tired of their whining.
Goose - October 7, 2010
Okay, that was one hell of a pitch.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
There's something inherently dirty-feeling watching Jared and three skinny African marathoners talk about Subway sandwiches.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Lame.
drblacknwhite - October 7, 2010
This series is so boring.
Get a better playoff atmosphere Tampa Bay.
Goose - October 7, 2010
I remember how exciting the Marlins NLDS was in 2003.
Be better Florida.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Memo to game: Just end already. We're sick of you. You bore us.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
2nd and 3rd in AL Rookie Home Run Leaders (Smoak, Saunders)
Whoooo Future!
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
Well huh, I didn't realize that.
That’s actually a cool thing the Mariners did (with a little help from Texas).
Two Rs and Two Ls - October 7, 2010
This Wheel-o I just found is much more interesting than this game
joof - October 7, 2010
"They've been held to just 8 hits in this series by Texas"
Something you didn’t expect to hear in years gone by.
msb - October 7, 2010
I FUCKING LOATHE THIS REALITY.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
This is indeed a disturbing universe.
JY - October 7, 2010
I bought an electric toothbrush
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
They let the 2002 Devil Rays into the playoffs.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
The Mariners would do better than the Rays have done.
joof - October 7, 2010
Can we just say, not any worse?
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Animals with Antlers don't have claws.
joof - October 7, 2010
Can anyone tell me what that football announcer is saying during the chess game?
Does it have anything to do with chess?
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Partial translation
It’s a very intense match today. He’s thinking! He’s thinking! Will he move the queen or the horse?
GOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL!
Two Rs and Two Ls - October 7, 2010
After the Will he move the queen or the horse, he says "He's going" a whole lot.
joof - October 7, 2010
Ah right:
Viene! Viene viene viene!
Two Rs and Two Ls - October 7, 2010
All I know is "he's thinking ,,. he's thinking"
msb - October 7, 2010
That is the part I know and it cracks me up.
Sec 108 - October 7, 2010
Hell, all I knew was GOOOOOAAAAALLLLL!!!
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Thanks Rays, that was the most boring playoff game I have ever seen.
Goose - October 7, 2010
Almost wish the Red Sox would've made the playoffs.
At least they have Adrian Beltre!
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
At least there would have been someone to root against
Poochie - October 7, 2010
I don't know about you but I root against the Yankees.
Robert - October 7, 2010
I always like it when the AL East is eliminated. I like the TV announcers to be all dumbfounded.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
LETS GO TWINKIES
Poochie - October 7, 2010
OL JIM JAM BETTER MASH TWO TATER TODA
Poochie - October 7, 2010
TODAY
Poochie - October 7, 2010
It was more Jim Jam-esque with the typos...
FaceRuiner - October 7, 2010
So good!
“CEE CEE HAS NOT STOLEN ALL OF THE TATERS AND CONSUMED THEM FOR THE PLAYOFFS. JIM JAM KEPT A FEW FOR HIMSELF.”
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Thanks for that report on the Twins' routine changes, TBS
The Rays just didn’t bore me enough.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
More Sager...
w00tah - October 7, 2010
Like a rock, I was strong as I could be....
Wrong guy, huh?
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Carl Sagan?
w00tah - October 7, 2010
Carl Brutananadilewski??
Thingray - October 7, 2010
You accidentally the game.
w00tah - October 7, 2010
Shit, that was a total dead end, wasn't it?
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Billions and billions of dingers
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
On the surface it would apprear the Yankees are a terrible draw for the Twins as they appear to be fucked sideways when the face a left handed starter
Poochie - October 7, 2010
Fuck Andy Pettitte.
I hope each home run hit by the Twins today hits one of his family members in the face.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Or they could all hit Andy in the face.
aussie_chop - October 7, 2010
Hard to be a home run and still hit the pitcher in the face.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
If they hit it really hard at the right angle
or I could just admit that I didn’t read the above post correctly.
aussie_chop - October 7, 2010
I suppose the right ricochet off of the upper forehead could theoretically clear the fence.
But I don’t think he’d stay in the game after that.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
It could go all the way around the world and hit him in the face.
joof - October 7, 2010
Andy Pettitte is my most hated Yankee.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Apparently, according to the announcers, Jeter is the only shortstop in the world that can turn a double play.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
It would be so rad if Pavano rocked their asses
Poochie - October 7, 2010
From the looks of that moustache, he already has.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Well, this game isn't a no hitter.
What time does the next one start?
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Oh Twinks, you're not gonna sac fly the Yankees to death. Come on now.
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Well Lance Berkmans career certainly faded quicker than I expected.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Old player skills?
He just looked like a guy that would fall off a cliff one day.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
He used to be a center fielder
Poochie - October 7, 2010
Yeah, but he was a big guy for that spot,
and moved to first a while back.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Sexson used to pretend to play left too.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
It's kind of a surprise, he's a better contact guy than, say, Jim Thome, and he had to move down to first. It's not exactly the type of guy you expect to be done at 34.
Poochie - October 7, 2010
While Thome is still useful.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
That ball faded slower than expected.
joof - October 7, 2010
I fucking hate the sound of Ron Darling's voice
It’s like tbs hired the most obnoxious sounding people possible just to annoy me
Poochie - October 7, 2010
Is Darling the one that sounds like James Woods?
Both of the non-Smoltz guys have really grating voices.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
He's the guy with a lisp who always sounds like he's really pissed off
Poochie - October 7, 2010
I forgot
the other side - October 7, 2010
Oops.
That was interesting.
the other side - October 7, 2010
Pavano gettin' filthy with it.
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
I don't think you're allowed to be anything other than filthy with a moustache like that.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
This is true.
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Shit
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Right now?
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Damn it Pavano. Stop being such a boner.
joof - October 7, 2010
All the better to distract ARod with?
short - October 7, 2010
I want to do a Mariners playoff game thread here soooooooo badly.
Sigh. Next year!
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Joey Cora is going to have such a foul mouth.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
I prefer that, though, to every mound visit being labeled, ITS TINO TIME.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
If I could speak to my 12 year old self I'd keep reminding him to "drink it in" because I didn't appreciate it enough.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
I was there, AND I MISS IT.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
You might consider a coma for a few years if that's what you're looking for.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Okay, pick up that bat and swing away.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
It would be unusably active
Robert - October 7, 2010
Couldn't be worse than opening day
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I'm pretty sure if we're good, every day will be like opening day
joof - October 7, 2010
3 Part Game Threads!!
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Opening Day is the best and worst day of the year.
JY - October 7, 2010
Opening day means Felix!
joof - October 7, 2010
Opening day means Rob Johnson dingers!
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
YAY!! Until he's replaced by a Molina?
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Opening day means catastrophic gameday threads.
Although since I’ll be in Seattle for next season, I may bypass that by going to the ballpark that day.
JY - October 7, 2010
GOING TO THE BALLPARK INSTEAD OF A GAME THREAD? WHY?
You better have your LL mobile handy. I promise you, it’ll load quickly and efficiently.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
I've already done that a few times on the go.
Depending on how good the reception is I can get the full site on my phone without issues.
JY - October 7, 2010
Am I the only one who has fantasies of winning a Super Bowl or World Series?
I’ve never felt such unbridled joy before, so the world is my oyster. I imagine it will be similar to my “I Won the Lotto Parties!” that I have in my head.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Weird. Never really followed a team and wanted them to win or get a trophy, or whatever.
I thought teams just played as an excuse for me to eat hot dogs and get drunk in front of thousands of people.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
Nope, I do too.
I wasn’t old enough to enjoy the Sonic’s championship, and I want to experience my own.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
I do all the time.
Fortunately this Tuesday bought me some patience.
Robert - October 7, 2010
But Marshawn means we only have to wait until February? And then I may... or may not... burn down some buildings.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
As much as I love adding Lynch,
I don’t think he’s our ticket to the championship this year.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Oh I see.. you're a Chester Pitts guy.
Yeah, I agree, he’ll be the one to get us to the Super Bowl this year.
We are going to the Super Bowl, I don’t care if we are 7-9 to finish the year. That’s all it takes. If those idiot Cardinals were one play away from a ring 2 yearrs ago, we can certainly do it.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
I was thinking more of Stokely.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
I love Stokely. He has overcome such great obstacles to become a great WR because he was not gifted as much as the other athletes and therefore he is a harder worker.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
So, white
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Woah woah woah woah woah...
Yeah.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
Aww nuts.
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
Right on cue
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
God fucking dammit Twins, come on.
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
I have no faith in the Twins ability to score many runs against Yankees pitching
aussie_chop - October 7, 2010
After the last two days, I have no more faith in baseball.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
How can you not have faith after Halladay's performance?
Thingray - October 7, 2010
That made me so happy.
But look at the teams that are winning.
kevin_ess - October 7, 2010
WAKE UP TIME!
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Awww, I thought this was going to be OPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-TACCCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
He booked it around those bases on that homerun.
joof - October 7, 2010
I was unaware Andy Petite changed his name to Sally.
joof - October 7, 2010
Twins!
JY - October 7, 2010
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Is it tater mashing time?
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
We should get the Twins 3rd base coach.
w00tah - October 7, 2010
Thome has really sucked it up in the big moments so far.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
This Twins season is the one the M's should have had when they opened Safeco
Instead we got a half-dome season and Griffey bitching his way out of town. Oh, and Mesa blowing the first game.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Yeah, the mid-season opening of Safeco always bugged me.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
But then we had 2001!
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Yeah, 116 wins and done.
Once 9/11 happened I knew there was no way we’d win the whole thing.
Thingray - October 7, 2010
Yeah, that was my first thought
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I wish I had been that cynical, it would have saved me the heartbreak later.
FairWeatherFred - October 7, 2010
Yeah..... yeah..... from that point on we were fucked.
JY - October 7, 2010
It was when the second plane hit that Arizona knew the title was theirs
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
God. Nobody ever wants to give US credit for losing something that day. All we ask for is ONE history channel special on the anniversary shows.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
The effect on the M's title hopes is the Building 7 of 2001 sports stories
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I wonder what percentage of SBN discussion about 9/11 comes from LL
I would venture a guess of 35%
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
FUCK YOU WENDELSTADT
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Young white women yelling at umpires is funny
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Damn it twins.
joof - October 7, 2010
Goddamnit Twins.
JY - October 7, 2010
Fuck that.
drblacknwhite - October 7, 2010
Man this is annoying.
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
GOD DAMMIT YOU ARE BLOWING IT TWINS
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
This is real bullshit.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
"This team needed that, Ernie!"
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Wendelstedt's strike zone has been awful all game long.
drblacknwhite - October 7, 2010
AH SHIT THEY'RE THROWING HATS
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
I've never sworn before in my life but the Twins can eat fucking dog shit bitch.
Kenneth Arthur - October 7, 2010
That's why I follow these threads
the writing is so thoughtful.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Go Craig Sager!
Keep going!
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Minnesota would fuck this up
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
The Giants series cannot start soon enough.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Goddamnit, Carl.
FairWeatherFred - October 7, 2010
Go Rangers
beat the Yankees.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Fuck that.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
I'm going to root for a meteor to hit Yankee stadium during the ALCS.
FairWeatherFred - October 7, 2010
WHY
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Why what?
Why would anyone hope the Yankees lose? I’m guessing it was meant to ask about the meteor comment.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
We don't want the Rangers in the WS.
wazzu93 - October 7, 2010
Well, I don't want the spankees there.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
I want the Rangers not to succeed more than I want the Yankees to lose
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Sounds like a priorities mixup to me.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Given that I am a Mariners fan much like lemonverbena
and that the Texas Rangers are in the same division as the Mariners, it seems as if my first priority would be for a division rival to do poorly, thus allowing the Mariners to do better.
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
You also appear to be a Seattel Mariners fan, and thus the correct priority would be for you to want Texas to lose as well
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
uh, the Mariners aren't in the postseason.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Try and keep up here, bud.
MORE MONEY FOR THE RANGERS = BAD FOR THE MARINERS
:-(
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Wait...can you start over?
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
DON'T TROLL ME BRO!
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
facepalm
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
No, really, I actually facepalmed
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Speaking of, who here literally facepalms from time to time?
I find myself doing it more and more frequently as of late
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
I did several times at jury duty today :(
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
I do quite often.
joof - October 7, 2010
*raises hand*
I used to do it on a daily basis at my old job, but I worked with drug addicts, so there was a lot that was facepalm-worthy there.
c_dowley - October 7, 2010
I also wear glasses, so when it's a serious enough facepalm that I take them off for added effect...
…. you know you fucked up real good.
c_dowley - October 7, 2010
I do this too.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
It's a great way to get your point across, isn't it?
c_dowley - October 7, 2010
I do. It's the perfect areyoufuckingkiddingme? gesture.
wazzu93 - October 7, 2010
I almost broke my skull while doing it when I was talking to somebody and she was adamant that she saw Sweden from across the lake while in Italy.
Robert - October 7, 2010
You've sure met some dumb people.
JY - October 7, 2010
Indeed!
Robert - October 7, 2010
Sweden, Switzerland
At least they start with the same letter!
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
You either have a very brittle skull or a very hard hand.
Also, sweet baby jesus on a stick with barbecue sauce, but that woman is dumb.
c_dowley - October 7, 2010
I could help that girl see Sweden
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Damn wormholes.
joof - October 7, 2010
Yup, if the Rangers go to the postseason, the Mariners won't be able to rebuild.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
I know! Fucking Rangers.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
That's not the argument.
joof - October 7, 2010
I don't think you understand what is going on here.
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
No no he's taken the upper hand here!
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
GOD DAMMIT LOL WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT MY ARGUMENTS BETTER?!
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
(that is an LoL, not laugh out loud)
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Whats LoL mean?
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Lookout Landing
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Have a quick look at your address bar.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Whoops!
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
We're not talking about Dota here.
joof - October 7, 2010
I think I do.
joof - October 7, 2010
That is out-fucking-standing.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Hey, tits! Hay tits!
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
I understand
I just think you guys are worried about the Rangers outspending the Mariners just because they will advance in the post season.
I don’t think Dallas will suddenly become the biggest baseball crazy city in the US.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Playoff success gives a longterm boost of income to the team.
joof - October 7, 2010
Not to mention suddenly becoming a lot more attractive to the big-name free agents.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
I'd say meh on that aspect
because Texas has always been fairly attractive since a lot of players live in/are from the south, and the team has traditionally had money to spend. I’d be more worried that they have $ to lure free agents than guys suddenly being attracted to a winning team.
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
If you want a concrete example of how this helps, had they been sold last year
and had money to spend in the draft, they would have Matt Purke in their system right now, and he’d be one of the best pitching prospects in baseball
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
I think it also helps that they have/had no state income tax
Robert - October 7, 2010
That too
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
And you can buy a 50 acre spread for like $100
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
I'm worried about them spending eleventy billion dollars and us never winning the division
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Eleventy actually isn't a number =/
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
I'm not up on the new maths
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Tell that to Keanu Reeves
c_dowley - October 7, 2010
Did the Mariners not have more money to spend whenever they have had success?
Robert - October 7, 2010
Yes.
Although to be perverse, they had the most money to spend when they stunk and Bavasi pissed the money away.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Ok so it is easy to assume that the Rangers will also have more money to spend if they are succesfull and go to a World Series correct?
Robert - October 7, 2010
Easy to assume
but not necessarily what will happen. It depends on the reaction from the people in Texas (attendance and media money) as well as the financial decisions of the new owners.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Media money = $1.5 billion
Financial decisons = spend shitloads of money
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Still it is more than likely to happen.
The Yankees are going to be good no matter what. The jury is still out on wither the Rangers will have sustained success but going to the World Series will do nothing but help them with that.
Robert - October 7, 2010
Well, you have nothing to worry about
Because the Yankees will take the Rangers like Walmart crushes the local corner store.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Yet I still spitefully hate their closest rivals
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
The Yankees have won the AL pennant like 40 times and at least 6 times in your lifetime.
The Rangers are one of two teams beside the Mariners to never have been to the World Series. I would much rather a team that has always won and will always win than being one of the two most futile teams in baseball history.
Robert - October 7, 2010
The Mariners need to be best at something.
Being best at being futile sounds like something.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
No that's called being the worst.
Robert - October 7, 2010
That actually sounds really shitty
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
That sums up the Mariner's 2010, that's for sure.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
The Rangers are in the M's division, the Yankees are not.
The Yankess will be rich no matter what, but the longer the Rangers stay in the playoffs the more money the team makes.
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Tell that to the Marlins
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
The Marlins don't reinvest their money into the team. The Rangers will.
joof - October 7, 2010
And if you want the proof, the Rangers already invest in the team now, they just don't have any money to do it with
and now with a new ownership group, they will likely continue to invest all available capital into the team
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Only a battle tested field general that is wholly Jeterian gets that pussy hit right there
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Giants gonna get it done
Robert - October 7, 2010
The LL Giants bandwagon is my way of proving that LL does not actually blindly follow whatever Jeff and Matthew want
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
I'm pretty sure they want you to think that
DrunkAmerican - October 7, 2010
I'm pretty sure Jeff is rooting for the Giants
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
After what I did to Matthew with the Giants in BMO there is no way that he bandwagons them
Robert - October 7, 2010
Some tatted-up meth addict is pitching for the Twins
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Bases loaded for A-Rod, what could possibly go wrong?
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Well then.
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
What was A Rod doing on that third strike?
Did he forget there was only one out?
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
RALLY TATER TIME
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
I woul'd have been happier with that outcome if I had more confidence in the Twins' offense.
They needed Morneau, badly.
JY - October 7, 2010
Time for Minnesota to leave the bases loaded
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Oops
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Being a Twins fan
would be like being a M’s fan, except even more frustrating because they are in the playoffs more often.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
I think that's the opposite.
joof - October 7, 2010
but when they get to the playoffs, they lose. Which isn't the opposite.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Being a Twins fan
would be like being a M’s fan, except
even more frustratingbetter they are in the playoffs more often- what joof was saying
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
But that isn't what I was saying.
I guess I didn’t say it very well.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Except when they won the World Series twice.
Jed MC - October 7, 2010
I don't think that's how the making the playoffs works
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Delmon Young plays LF the way I figure Jose Lopez would play LF
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Well?
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
No.
c_dowley - October 7, 2010
Can this be denied?
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
No
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Maybe I'm projecting
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Probably should've scored runs THIS inning guys
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
From Twitter:
Joe Metro - October 7, 2010
Rub some dirt on it kid, you got another eye
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
NL baseball just lowered the braves chances of winning.
joof - October 7, 2010
Remind me again why people think the DH is a bad idea?
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Not enough purity
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
It reminds us of the olden times?
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Because batting practice eye injuries in the playoffs build character.
joof - October 7, 2010
Yes sir.
Joe Metro - October 7, 2010
Auto-rec
Goose - October 7, 2010
Keeps the leagues different
reducing the bizarro games that Bud can play with the divisions and the number of teams in the playoffs.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Like putting six teams in the NL central?
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, wait.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
Bud doesn't play games. He declares them a tie.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Why should half of the teams in Major League Baseball play by a completely set of different rules than the other?
it is like if the Western Conference played with a three point line and the Eastern Conference did not
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Time for a grand slam off Mariano.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
GEE I WONDER WHO IS GOING TO PITCH RIGHT NOW?
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Fangraphs shows the Twins with a 5 percent chance
going into the bottom of the 9th, down by 3? Surprises me it is that high.
Or maybe that is just because I watch the M’s.
Paul AB - October 7, 2010
We're a critical hit away from Victory!
joof - October 7, 2010
OL JIM JAM'S GONNA TIE IT UP
Mariner John - October 7, 2010
Please god
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Watch out for the cutter.
Mariner John - October 7, 2010
WHAT DID I SAY?
Mariner John - October 7, 2010
You are some kind of sorceror.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
I hate the Yankees so fucking much.
TWownsU - October 7, 2010
Curious strike zone.
Mariner John - October 7, 2010
Go Rangers!!!!
Mariner John - October 7, 2010
Boooooooooooooo
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
But Yankees suck.
Mariner John - October 7, 2010
Cast your eyes upthread.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
T'was a reference.
Mariner John - October 7, 2010
My bad.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Well, looks like setting uniforms on fire didn't work.
ThundaPC - October 7, 2010
When did we set the Mariners uniforms on fire?
Bummed I missed that.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
MLB let the Twins build a stadium without a roof as long as they were forced to play the Yankees in the first round every year.
Robert - October 7, 2010
After they let them not get dissolved in contraction
Stupid MLB.
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
God I'm tired of the fucking Yankees. Eat shit you fucking cunts.
Winning all the time is boring.
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Losing all the time is also boring!
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
No argument there.
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
Oh well, now the important series starts
Shit’s about to get real.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
I can't wait for the season premiere of Glory Daze!
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
A show about guys drinking in college! Where did they come up with such a unique idea!?
MFAN - October 7, 2010
Robin Williams?
Uhhh ok.
Goose - October 7, 2010
SHIT
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
You're fucking kidding me.
The one series I really am interested in and fucking Chris “backbackbackbackbackback” Berman is the announcer? Boooooooo.
wazzu93 - October 7, 2010
I think that's Dick Stockton.
Unless Berman is doing the game on radio.
MFAN - October 7, 2010
It is the radio side-
wazzu93 - October 7, 2010
How can you hate Boomer?
He’s like a big dumb puppy!
sanford_and_son - October 7, 2010
I think he's fine when talking about football or whatever but when he announces it's just not compelling-I lose track of what's going on.
wazzu93 - October 7, 2010
I'm just glad to be rid of the Yankees/Twins crew.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
On the radio it's Jon so awesome Miller and Orel Hershiser.
wazzu93 - October 7, 2010
Shouldn't they be doing this series?
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
THAT"S WHAT I SAID! God, I'd be pissed if I was Jon Miller.
wazzu93 - October 7, 2010
TIMMY!
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
TIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMY
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
The chin strap beard doesn't make your face look more angular if you have a fat chin/neck zone
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Four in a row!
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Eight swinging strikes in this inning!
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
FIVE IN A ROW
Good lord.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
NINE SWINGING STRIKES IN A ONE-TWO-THREE INNING!!!
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Holy crap Lincecum is on fire.
Goose - October 7, 2010
He's so awesome.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Lincecum's dealing.
perfectstrat - October 7, 2010
K K K K K Popup K Chopper to the Mound
perfectstrat - October 7, 2010
Timmy isn't such a good hitter
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Wahey!
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Defense!
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
ROSS YOU TWAT
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
That's just terrible
that’s a play Jose Lopez would have made
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
Dammit
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
Jason Heyward as a 20 year old rookie had a 91/128 BB/K
Unbelievable.
Goose - October 7, 2010
I still can't believe we didn't draft this guy
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
I bet we'd have gotten like... Joakim Soria for him instead of that dumbass hawaiian.
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Verducci is boring the tits off me.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
I suppose I should thank him.
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
I don't like you as much when youre bored
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
The Giants should put names on the backs of their jerseys, in my opinion
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
So how did KJR manage to pick up the games? Was ESPN that pissed at how 710 dicked them yesterday?
Also, there are a lot of good #1 starters in this series.
James F'n X - October 7, 2010
Buster Posey is such a great name-but sounds old like he should be 75 instead of 23.
wazzu93 - October 7, 2010
Posey is lucky he didn't break his leg on that slide. Damn.
Goose - October 7, 2010
If he werent a baseball player Lincecum would surely be a goth
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Nah, just a stoner working at Bell Square
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Pity. He'd make a fantastic goth
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
He'd really have to work on his haircut
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
He's Mitch from Dazed and Confused.
truemsfan - October 7, 2010
Absolutely!
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Yes that's NOW because he's a professional baseball player
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
I think you're over-thinking this. He's totally a snowboarder/skateboarder type.
Not a counter-culture stereotype people want to project him as sans MLB career
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
ROSS YOU HERO
Eyeball Kid - October 7, 2010
!!!!
!!
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
GIANTS!
James F'n X - October 7, 2010
Posey runs fast for a catcher
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
Derek Lowe's cap looks like a cheap one-size-fits-all one you'd get at Target.
Mariner John - October 7, 2010
Good play by Ankiel.
James F'n X - October 7, 2010
The dive was a little awkward no?
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
We're not all born graceful. He did good to get over there and hold on with the sketchy landing
James F'n X - October 7, 2010
The broadcast just informed us that Aubrey Huff is wearing a red thong.
Goose - October 7, 2010
And then a wistful
“well I’m just glad the Giants don’t wear see through pants”
…
…
…“Or am I?”
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
It's still better than the Yankees-Twins broadcasters.
perfectstrat - October 7, 2010
Watching Derek Lowe face Tim Lincecum is what makes the NL so special
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Strategy!
FairWeatherFred - October 7, 2010
But but but the double switch!
Big Jared - October 7, 2010
The double switch is lame. We even had a DH in high school
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Yeah. I was trying for devil's advocate. Satan isn't very strong.
Big Jared - October 7, 2010
Oh I know, I just really do hate all that double switching
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Lincecum is pitching rather fancily these days
changing speeds on his fastball, missing by tiny tiny margins, cutters n shit. It’s cool that, even though he isn’t throwing 96 anymore he still makes guys look real stupid
tsunamijesus - October 7, 2010
He's always hidden the ball so well. You don't see it until it's right on top of you.
He might as well throw 200mph when he’s on
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
With Heyward up, was the SF crowd just chanting "Posey's better?"
Two Rs and Two Ls - October 7, 2010
I rinsed out this glass after drinking a bloody mary so I could put a beer in it but there's still a teensy bit of horseradish floating around in there
It’s kind of bothering me
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
That's an unfortunate time for a "this is beyond red-hot" commercial
seattlebruin - October 7, 2010
On second thought, Glory Daze looks like it will suck really bad
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
Lincecum can be pretty fucking impressive sometimes
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
World Series appearances are a consideration in HoF voting
Eric Hinske has been in 3 World Series.
Bearskin Rugburn - October 7, 2010
{dead meme about Tim Lincecum's draft availability}
Good grief, he is just dominant. What a wealth of top pitching talent we’re living in with Felix, Lincecum, Criff Ree, Halladay, Sabathia…
James F'n X - October 7, 2010
Awesome performance.
drblacknwhite - October 7, 2010
Little Timmy Lincecum from Bellevue threw a CG shutout in the playoffs
lemonverbena - October 7, 2010
Wow, way to dominate Timmy
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
31 swinging strikes. 31.
BRKLN M'S - October 7, 2010
What a soft pussy
aussie_chop - October 7, 2010
9 swinging strikes in the 2nd inning for Timmy????
That’s the greatest inning I’ve ever seen.
Decatur - October 7, 2010
October baseball gives me an erection.
RustyJohn - October 7, 2010
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