(This post wasn't inspired by Dave's post on the exact same subject earlier today, but the overlap isn't a coincidence. On the heels of the Brendan Ryan trade, the timing just feels right, and Dave's brain and my brain work in very similar ways, which should cause some alarm to Mrs. Dave.)
Every time I sit down to address the Mariners' offseason, I feel the need to qualify what I'm saying with a statement saying something along the lines of "while Zduriencik can always surprise us-". You just can't take anything for granted. We were rumored to be in on Miguel Olivo, we were rumored to be in on Brandon McCarthy and Gregg Zaun, and then all of a sudden word spread that we'd gotten somewhere in talks about Adrian Gonzalez. It's impossible to predict the direction a Mariners offseason will take under the current front office.
But it certainly seems like no big-player surprise move is upcoming. Based on the Olivo and Ryan and Jack Cust acquisitions, it appears that the front office is taking the lower-tier approach we expected, and assuming that holds true, then there's not a whole lot left to pull off. By and large, we can draw up a good approximation of what next year's roster should look like.
Yet a few issues do still remain, and we'll begin by looking at the bench. Right now, the 2011 Opening Day Seattle Mariners bench consists of Adam Moore, Milton Bradley, Josh Wilson, and a vacant spot. Or, in more readable form:
Catcher: Moore
Infield:
Outfield: Bradley
Utility: Wilson
This configuration should only last for a maximum of two months before Dustin Ackley comes up and something changes, but still, it needs to be worked out. For the time being, you can pencil either Matt Tuiasosopo or Matt Mangini into the infield role.
Depending on how you feel about Matt Tuiasosopo and Matt Mangini, you should feel a corresponding desire to fill that infield spot with a better player. And I'm all for it. I don't love Tuiasosopo as a player, and while Mangini is interesting, I'd rather return him to the minors where he can play every day than limit him to a bench role in the bigs. So that's a spot that could end up going to some cheap, available veteran.
And then you've got Bradley. Milton Bradley, right now, is the Mariners' fourth outfielder. The M's very well could go into the season like this. Ichiro's unlikely to need much time off, Michael Saunders can fill in in center if Franklin Gutierrez gets hurt, and Jack Cust can kind of wing it in a corner as well. So Bradley's unreliability and declining mobility aren't huge concerns. But I can still see the argument for having a real fourth outfielder. Someone more like a Ryan Langerhans. Someone like, incidentally, a Laynce Nix. So it remains a possibility that the M's send Bradley away.
Alternatively, the M's could look to fill that infield role with someone capable of playing the outfield as well. Jerry Hairston Jr. is a free agent, and he can play everywhere. That would allow the M's to keep Bradley around and see what he can do. But there are a lot of ways they could go with this.
So that's the bench. Now we move on to the pitching staff. The rotation locks are Felix Hernandez, Jason Vargas, and Doug Fister. Erik Bedard is a possibility to break camp with the team, and Michael Pineda isn't far away. Pineda's expected to be up in Seattle before long and may even make the Opening Day roster, although he could experience the same service time delays as Ackley.
But there's a small opening there - to take Pineda's starts before he comes up, or to take some of Bedard's starts if he's unavailable, or whatever. The Mariners could elect to stay in-house here, as Luke French and David Pauley are the two primary options. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that they look elsewhere, though - especially if they're able to trade David Aardsma and his salary. At the very least, we could see some warm bodies brought in for purposes of competition over the coming months.
And finally, there's the bullpen. I'll spare the analysis and just list off the names of guys who have a chance to relieve for the M's next April:
David Aardsma
Brandon League
Dan Cortes
Jose Flores
Luke French
Cesar Jimenez
Josh Lueke
Garrett Olson
David Pauley
Mauricio Robles
Anthony Varvaro
Chaz Roe
Fabio Castro
Charlie Haeger
Justin Miller
Chris Seddon
Chris Smith
Some of those guys, obviously, are longshots, but that's a list of 17 names, competing for seven open spots. And then, of course, Shawn Kelley is expected back some months into the year. And this doesn't list any additional non-roster invitees to Spring Training that the Mariners bring in.
The point here is that the Mariners do not need to go sign another reliever. They could create a Major League bullpen out of the guys they already have. They might go get a reliever - presumably some veteran - but doing so is neither a guarantee nor a necessity. So we'll see. We know they've been linked to Jesse Crain and some other guys this offseason, but being linked to a guy doesn't say much about the degree of one's interest.
So there you go. That's about what we should expect the rest of the way. There's always that distinct possibility that Zduriencik turns everything on its head with one surprise deal, but assuming the M's aren't involved for Zack Greinke or Matt Garza, I'd say we're probably going to stay low-key. This is truly one hot sexy winter.
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"Dave's brain and my brain work in very similar ways, which should cause some alarm to Mrs. Dave."
Perhaps the teetotal-ness of the brain of Dave is a saving grace for Mrs. D.
msb - December 13, 2010
I'll analyze the bullpen!
Here are your rankings:
Dan Cortes
Anthony Varvaro
Chaz Roe
Charlie Haeger
Brandon League
Mauricio Robles
David Aardsma
Jose Flores
Justin Miller
Josh Lueke
Cesar Jimenez
Luke French
Fabio Castro
Chris Seddon
David Pauley
Garrett Olson
Chris Smith
I hope this clears things up.
yuniform - December 13, 2010
I assure you that the following set is the correct rankings.
David Aardsma
Fabio Castro
Dan Cortes
Jose Flores
Luke French
Charlie Haeger
Cesar Jimenez
Brandon League
Josh Lueke
Justin Miller
Garrett Olson
David Pauley
Chaz Roe
Mauricio Robles
Chris Seddon
Chris Smith
Anthony Varvaro
.Taylor - December 13, 2010
I concede that one could make a convincing argument for Robles being placed above Roe.
.Taylor - December 13, 2010
The fact that he's better?
seattlebruin - December 13, 2010
Among other spelling-related concerns
seattlebruin - December 13, 2010
Chaz Roe is a funnier name.
Also, I know nothing about Chris Smith.
Taylor, you’re sleeping on Roe and Robles. Think of the potential for a “Roe, Ro your Boat” bullpen?
I miss Mark Lowe.
yuniform - December 13, 2010
You and Dave...
both seem to assume Josh WIlson has the utility infield role wrapped up. I’m not sure that’s a safe assumption. If Luis Rodriguez’s breakout was even remotely real, he should be able to beat out Wilson in ST for that job.
slamcactus - December 13, 2010
Right, but for now Wilson has the edge because he's on the 40-man
Jeff Sullivan - December 13, 2010
Fair enough.
They should change that.
slamcactus - December 13, 2010
Rodriguez and Josh Wilson are probably roughly equal in the team's estimation right now
Whoever looks better in Spring Training (barring further changes to the roster) will probably get the job and the other will go to AAA or another team.
Then again, I’m all for starting with neither on the opening day roster and carrying a 2B/3B who was a bit better with the bat instead. If Jack or Ryan goes hurt, then you call up Rodriguez or wilson.
CMC_Stags - December 13, 2010
Obviously not.
Since they gave Rodriguez a minor league deal and Josh a major league deal.
c_dowley - December 13, 2010
Josh was already on the 40-man though.
They couldn’t have given him a minor league deal without DFAing him.
JY - December 13, 2010
Should Ms. Jeff experience any alarm?
Matt Erickson - December 13, 2010
No more than usual
Jeff Sullivan - December 13, 2010
Is there any indication or thought that with a new staff in place, we might get good Luke French and his slider back?
it seems that would help a bunch if we could get 1-2 WAR production out of French as a #4 guy, and then can pray to get 100 innings out of Erik Bedard
seattlebruin - December 13, 2010
It's a possibility but I doubt it
French seems to have re-invented himself
Jeff Sullivan - December 13, 2010
I don't think it's that they get better when they leave, it's just that coming here makes them dumber...
seattlebruin - December 13, 2010
Wait, what did happen with Laynce Nix?
Did we actually sign him?
stredarts - December 13, 2010
No
Jeff Sullivan - December 13, 2010
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Janic - December 13, 2010
Jon heyman on twitter
still hearing rumblings of 3rd team in lee mix. word is offer much lower than NYY’s, but it’s also a place lee loves
Mariners???
Mizuno2613 - December 13, 2010 via mobile
Hope it's not the Arkansas Travelers.
msb - December 13, 2010
I think I heard somewhere a few weeks ago that the Phillies were looking at him again
Sounds more plausible than the M’s to me, I wouldn’t get your hopes up.
BaronVonBullshit - December 13, 2010
Phillies would be so fantastic.
Always wondered why they weren’t in on it more from the beginning.
wazzu93 - December 13, 2010
If Cliff Lee goes back to the Phillies there must be a way for us to get prospects out of the deal.
It worked well last time. Hello Ruben. Are you listening?
Droid Rage - December 13, 2010
Cash for Dom Brown sounds like a good start, right?
c_dowley - December 13, 2010
That is a start.
I was hoping for three prospects though. Ruben really needs our help with Cliff Lee.
Droid Rage - December 13, 2010
Show me the money.
Janic - December 13, 2010
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