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Jose Lopez Traded To Rockies For Chaz D. Roe

Just gotta put the bat on the ball

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Just gotta put the bat on the ball

Not that I think Jose Lopez thinks about these kinds of things, but as a 27 year old former top prospect, there's a little more dignity in getting traded than in getting non-tendered. Getting non-tendered means your old team was sick of you. Getting traded means that at least one other organization thinks you're kind of all right, no matter what it gave up in exchange.

It makes sense that it would be Colorado - for as long as we've heard that the M's were looking to move Jose Lopez, the Rockies were pretty consistently the only team said to have interest. There's clearly at least one guy in that front office who thinks that Lopez's skillset is a good one, and the kind of offensive skillset that can work in Coors Field. Not that there's any offensive skillset that couldn't work in Coors Field, but Lopez should have more value there than he did here, since there he won't be shitty.

There, he could actually help. I don't know what job he's going to have, or how many games he's going to play, but Miguel Olivo just posted a .765 OPS with the Rockies last season, and Miguel Olivo has maybe the worst approach to hitting of any established bat in the Major Leagues. Too often Lopez looks like he doesn't know what he's doing, but he can get away with not knowing what he's doing there more often than he could in Seattle. It's not impossible that Lopez could get his career back on track. A few home runs could build a little confidence, and a little confidence could go a long way. But even if Lopez blossoms into a good player, one must consider whether he ever would've done it in Safeco. This was obviously not a good fit.

The guy we got back in the trade is Chaz D. Roe. This is what he looks like:

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He's 24, and he's a righty, and he's a pitcher, and he starts, and he throws a low-90s fastball and a curveball and he had a 5.98 ERA with AAA Colorado Springs. Colorado Springs plays in a launch pad, so that ERA is inflated, and Roe does have a chance to be something someday. He was the 32nd overall pick in 2005, after all. But he's probably nothing. I don't know what Roe's like as a guy - this is obviously a big day for him - and I feel bad for being so dismissive, but the odds are good that we'll never have to learn his name. He may not even last the offseason on the 40-man roster, should space need to be made for acquisitions. All Roe is, for the time being, is the guy who's better than nothing, because had the M's non-tendered Lopez, they would've gotten nothing.

This day isn't about Chaz D. Roe, though. This is about Jose Lopez, and the fact that, even though the M's technically traded him to Colorado, he was, for all intents and purposes, dumped off at the age of 27, because, just a year removed from hitting 25 home runs, the M's didn't want to risk having to pay him three million dollars. That hints at a spectacular collapse, and indeed, Lopez's 2010 season was that bad. We haven't seen many seasons worse, and we certainly haven't seen many seasons worse from a guy many figured was just coming into his own.

Remember when Asdrubal Cabrera was sent away in large part because he was blocked in the middle infield by Yuniesky Betancourt and Jose Lopez? I don't bring this up because it wasn't true. While Cabrera shouldn't have been discarded as he was, he was most definitely blocked by two good young talents. I bring this up because it's amazing how swiftly and dramatically some things can change. Yuni's now 28, and Lopez is 27, and they have a combined OPS of .694. Both of them were supposed to be cornerstones. They've turned into internet punchlines.

For all the talk and all the jokes about Lopez's weight and motivation, I don't buy it. I don't think that he's lazy, and I don't think he struggled to develop because he got fat. He made his share of brain farts, to be sure, but I think the effort was pretty much always there, as was the drive. Lopez cares. Lopez wants to be good. I think the bigger problem is that he just doesn't know how to get better. He doesn't seem to understand what it would take for him to improve or adjust, and so he just goes up there trying to do what he thinks he's supposed to do given his slot in the lineup. If some batting coach can get him to figure out what to do with different pitches and give him a better game plan, more power to him, but Lopez showed zero progress in that department as a Mariner. Zero, in seven years.

Jose - I'll miss watching you in the dugout after games, but I won't miss watching you on the field during them. You've been nothing short of maddening, and while I wish you the best in Colorado, I will shed no tears over your departure. If you need help with your braces, I recommend Comfort Dental.

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"He's 24, and he's a righty, and he's a pitcher, and he starts, and he throws a low-90s fastball and a curveball and he had a 5.98 ERA with AAA Colorado Springs."

he’s also real tall and kinda skinny.

And he had an OPS of .644 last year.

So maybe they traded for his bat and the pitching was gravy.

Chaz Roe is potentially kind of adorable. I can't bring myself to care about him any further than that.
Chaz Roe looks the faintest bit like David Price.
I still hate Jose Lopez so very much.

Also, the Royals had no interest?

Lopez must be excited I bet

Not only does he get to leave righty killing Safeco, but gets to switch to the NL and go to a hitter friendly park to boot. If he can keep his defensive numbers up at 3rd, assuming they’ll be putting him at 3rd, with the bit of offensive boost he’ll see with this switch, he might actually be geniunly valuable with the Rockies. And if he actually learns how to improve his offensive game to live up to his early talent, then wow. Then we’ll have to suffer numerous idiot fans saying “haha, you traded Jose Lopez for nothing; your GM sucks!” You wait, it will happen…

Glad to be rid of him though. Bring on Dustin Ackley. Going to be a fun year, even if the mariners will probably not be any good at all. At least we’ll get to watch the youngsters develop and Felix of course. And heck, if Bedard can actually be healthy, he’ll be fun to watch too.

the Rockies acquired Lopez to be back up utility infielder

He would back up Stewart at third (zero chance he starts there) and presumably backup second. However, the Rockies have three very young unproven second baseman. Eric Young Jr and Jonathan Herrera have less potential but seem to be more in Jim Tracy’s favor. Chris Nelson was a former first rounder but couldn’t get in the starting lineup last year. If Lopez has a couple good games early, he could gain traction at first. A great April and he’d have a long rope with the starting job a la Miguel Olivo.

I suspect they'll give him a real shot at 2B

and that he’ll take full advantage of it (and Coors Field). I also second Jeff’s recommendation of Comfort Dental.

Jose Lopez is going to hit 76 homeruns next year in Coors.
And with that, Jose Lopez ends the Passover Seder.
And a total of 2 homeruns in road games

He’ll have a 1.500 OPS at Coors and a.700 everywhere else

At least 76 homeruns.
You missed a zero in there
Whenever you can land a guy named Chaz, you have to do it.

Roe’s a remarkably frustrating pitcher to watch – he has incredible stuff to the point where he looks the part of a potential front-end starter (he was a first-round pick, I believe, so he does have some pedigree to back it up) but it never translates into production. Part of it’s due to health and the Rockies’ focus on making him a more contact-oriented pitcher but he does have the ability to be a true strikeout pitcher.

I actually like this deal for the Mariners. It’s sad to see Loafie go but at least Roe brings back a potential back-end starter with moderate upside.

Am I the only one seeing another Jack Z bullpen arm?

I’m not sure if now is the best time to give up on him as a starter, but he has a similar background as Cortes. Roe didn’t put up quite the same minor league numbers however both tall right-handers throw in the low 90’s, topping out around 95 while in a starting role, have at least a solid curveball (Baseball America was calling Roe’s curve a ‘swing-and-miss’ pitch as recently as the 2008 Prospect Handbook, now available on Google Books FYI), are lacking the third pitch to take their starting approach to the next level, and command has been a major concern through their careers. For the record I recognize that Cortes is almost certainly a better pitcher today and likely always will be, just merely pointing out the parallels in their career.

But the thing is, it's basically a free one, because the Mariners had planned on releasing Loafie just a couple of days ago.
I wasn't saying it like it was a bad thing

His performance as a starter has left a lot to be desired, but I was trying to point out that he might have some potential as a late inning guy. Maybe not quite like Cortes, but a valuable 7th/8th inning guy signed for cheap that we get essentially for free is a minor coup.

We don’t want to be in 2012 or 2013 when we expect to start winning with nothing in the bullpen. Adding guys like Roe who will still be cheap and we can get now for free could be vital to our future success no matter how unheralded the moves are now.

7 years of head-scratching and jokes.

I guess I’ll miss the jokes. If he starts, I bet he’ll have one more good year in the sun and then fade away into obscurity, more than he already has.

Worst. Year. EVER.
I look forward to seeing Chaz Roe pitch

or hearing that he’s doing well at Tacoma. Who knows? He might be better than David Pauley (and Pauley wasn’t that bad).

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