I've been thinking about projections off and on for a little while. It's always interesting to me when people get excited about having player projections. Player projections don't tell you anything surprising. All of the different systems have their own little tricks, but at their heart, each and every one of them comes down to a simple weighting of recent performance, along with some kind of aging component. That's all. You can usually predict what a projection system will have to say about a player long before its release.
The real fun, for me, is in the team projections. Obviously, you can't have team projections without player projections, but while we can usually do the math in our heads for one player at a time, it's much harder for the human brain to put a team's worth of projections together and come up with a record. That's when the computers really come in handy.
So with that in mind, a few days ago RLYW released some really early projected standings for the 2011 regular season, based on the CAIRO system. I don't think I need to go over all the reasons why you shouldn't take these numbers as gospel, but that doesn't mean they aren't fun to look at, and some inferences can be made. Among them:
Go give those standings a look, and as you head into the New Year, keep in mind that, as rough as things have been, they could be an awful lot worse.
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I went through those a few days ago.
He’s missing projections for Pineda, Bedard, Cortes and Lueke at least. Which I believe costs us a pretty significant amount in run prevention.
Matthew - December 31, 2010
Why, you're right
How peculiar.
Jeff Sullivan - December 31, 2010
I'll be adding Bedard, Pineda, Cortes and Lueke in the next update
I had them projected but they were filtered out of the last update due to operator error. Lueke was included in the simulations as part of the RH setup guys, but none of the others were.
I held off on including Bedard until I have a better idea of his health status. Is he expected to be at full strength by opening day?
SGinATL - December 31, 2010
Word has it that he'll be good and ready to compete for a rotation spot in Spring Training
But, you know.
Jeff Sullivan - December 31, 2010
As long as this happens I'll be happy:
http://twitpic.com/3lpd03
noeffortatall - December 31, 2010 via mobile
120 more runs gets us 11 games
The pitching numbers look ok to me. Somewhere around 690 is probably about right. But the projections say Seattle will score 122 more runs next year and that it will translate into an 11 game improvement. Seriously, 122 runs only nets you 11 more wins? it should easily be around 15-17 I would think. That of course is assuming they can even score 635 runs in the first place.
Boy9988 - December 31, 2010
The long standing rule of thumb is that 10 runs equals one win
It varies a bit, but not by much
Matthew - December 31, 2010
I'm skeptical as well.
112 runs is a big gain. Regress, you fools!
SeattExPat - December 31, 2010
Playoffs?
Playoffs?
SeattExPat - December 31, 2010
More like ASStros
Poochie - December 31, 2010 via mobile
I would have Rec'ed it if d0nkey had said it.
thehemogoblin - December 31, 2010
Oh
abender20 - December 31, 2010
Context matters
Poochie - December 31, 2010 via mobile
(dog joke)
thehemogoblin - December 31, 2010
That doesn't work.
You’re not even trying and yet you still fail
Matthew - December 31, 2010
You're so cute when you try and actively break people down.
thehemogoblin - December 31, 2010
I am not trying to break people down.
Merely nudge people when they are running afoul of the established standards.
Matthew - December 31, 2010
This same system projected the Mariners to score 700 runs last year
So, the Astros are set to score about 400?
seattlecougar - December 31, 2010
Shame on you Jeff
For not recognizing that 10.9% is 11% not 10% when you round it off.
New England Fan - January 1, 2011
I did recognize that but prefer round numbers
Jeff Sullivan - January 1, 2011
Maybe Jeff is a computer and rounds all numbers like ints.
joof - January 3, 2011
I'd honestly be more surprised
By the Wild Card not coming out of the AL East then the M’s making the playoffs.
Deelron - January 1, 2011
The Astros' chances of making the playoffs is only about half the chance of Jose Lopez walking
Are you surprised when Jose Lopez takes a walk?
Trenchtown - January 1, 2011
Aren't you?
yuniform - January 3, 2011
The Mariners are projected make the second-best improvement from 2010 to 2011 in all of baseball! /anchoring.
We’d also be making the biggest decline from 2001 to 2011.
yuniform - January 3, 2011
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