Miguel Olivo is the only catcher in Major League Baseball with more passed balls than Rob Johnson last year.
In fairness, he did play a lot more games, but he still lead MLB in PB. If you combine the plate discipline of Jose Lopez with Rob Johnson’s ability to catch the ball, you could have that to look forward to next year in Miguel Olivo. I’d rather spend the money on food.
I still think they should sign Jeff Francis, especially after the silly small offer the Rockies gave him (a minor league contract for a 2 WAR pitcher in 20 GS)?
Neither Bedard nor Pineda can pitch 200 innings next year.
Which is lame. I remember back when he was going to sign with the Angels, he actually wanted to sign here (his mom really liked Seattle, and he’s a mama’s boy) but we made no effort because we were too scared to ask Ichiro to move. Which we later did anyway.
- small sample size in Safeco
- our park kills right handed batters
- Vlad is aging and could collapse
- Vlad has battled injuries in the past and offers zero defensive value
- Vlad is likely to be expensive or seek a multi-year deal due to his good season in Texas
I just don’t see any reason for us to be interested in him over Matsui or Cust
The only concern I would have is L/R balance at the top of the lineup, since you're likely looking at
Ichiro, Ackley, Smoak and DH near the top by the end of 2011, but that’s still not even close to worth the additional investment in money and years to Vlad
I would like him if he did well, but my hate would grow if he performed poorly. And something tells me the Arlington—→Safeco transition wouldn’t go too well.
So the Rangers had two highly touted 1B prospects and will likely have traded them both
According to Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse, the Rangers are working on a deal that would send Chris Davis and Darren O’Day to the Cubs.
Davis has struggled to get comfortable at the big league level, but he could be a solution for the Cubs at first base. It’s not clear who the Rangers would get in return as part of the proposed deal, but it’s possible that they could have interest in either Welington Castillo or Robinson Chirinos, two young catchers who are currently blocked at the big league level by Geovany Soto.
If Seattle was seriously in on Adrian Gonzalez so that we could flip him at the All Star break, then theoretically we will be going hard after Greinke as well right?
Your screenname is going to blow my dyslexic fucking mind.
Also, we shouldn’t really go hard on any one year rental since our team will suck next year. Grienke is also probably a harder sell on a long term contract and I have a feeling we were never that hard on him anyway.
Not to nitpick, but he'd really be a two year rental.
That said, I’m not sure I see much of a match trade-wise between the Royals and the Mariners, but then again, I don’t “trust the process” either so what do I know.
Salk says:
Miguel Olivo linked to Mariners more than Zaun is.
Uh,
Decatur - December 7, 2010
I would much rather listen to "Limelight" nonstop than deal with that again.
Kouvre - December 7, 2010
AWESOME!!!
seanchristopher - December 7, 2010
The MST reference
not Miguel Olivo
seanchristopher - December 7, 2010
Miguel Olivo is the only catcher in Major League Baseball with more passed balls than Rob Johnson last year.
In fairness, he did play a lot more games, but he still lead MLB in PB. If you combine the plate discipline of Jose Lopez with Rob Johnson’s ability to catch the ball, you could have that to look forward to next year in Miguel Olivo. I’d rather spend the money on food.
Droid Rage - December 7, 2010
He has more power than both though.
I’d still rather have Zaun.
Thingray - December 7, 2010
Note from Drayer
on Olivo
msb - December 7, 2010
That...that is something
Corco - December 7, 2010
I still think they should sign Jeff Francis, especially after the silly small offer the Rockies gave him (a minor league contract for a 2 WAR pitcher in 20 GS)?
Neither Bedard nor Pineda can pitch 200 innings next year.
Decatur - December 7, 2010
Nationals are apparently poised to offer a big contract to Cliff Lee.
This is still about the 2nd best team he could sign with in terms of my happiness.
Kenneth Arthur - December 7, 2010
Haha Rangers
Robert - December 7, 2010
Reports (Heyman's source) refuted that pretty quickly. I doubt the Nationals get in on this as other's (Olney) may indicate.
kentroyals5 - December 7, 2010
Awww.
Killjoy.
katal - December 7, 2010
I tend to trust Olney, so I got excited, too. I was actually ready to jump on the Nationals bandwagon....I guess there's still a chance.
kentroyals5 - December 7, 2010
I hope so. They've got the money and they've shown the willingness.
Jayson Werth doesn’t make them go from 69 wins to 79 wins. But both of those guys together might. Come on Nats!
Kenneth Arthur - December 7, 2010
Then we will be the only friend left.
Playing solitaire while the others go off to their World Series.
Sigh, again.
ambrosia2112 - December 7, 2010
GO GO GO
Poochie - December 7, 2010
The A's considering Vlad...
Every AL West team but us. We know he excells in our park.
ambrosia2112 - December 7, 2010
Yeah, but his back is so bad he runs like he gotta dump in his pyants.
Hey, hey Vlad! You got shit in yo pants! Stupid…
Decatur - December 7, 2010
We know he's getting older too.
ThundaPC - December 7, 2010
Everyone thought he was done before last year.
Then he goes and wins the 2010 DH award. I don’t care if he can’t run, if he can drive in runs batting #3 or #4 that’s what counts.
ambrosia2112 - December 7, 2010
It's not like Texas is a hitter's ballpark or anything.
ThundaPC - December 7, 2010
C'mon now. I'd bet that 90% of the HR's Vlad hit out would make it out of ANY stadium.
I think if he’s open to playing in Seattle Jack should make a play for him.
grips - December 7, 2010
I'm curious whether that's 90% of 15 or 29?
ThundaPC - December 7, 2010
Check it out
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5737/splits Only 3 more home runs hit at home rather than away.
grips - December 7, 2010
14/29 last year would have been out in any stadium.
Interestingly, 1 of his homeruns would have been a homerun in 0 stadiums.
http://www.hittrackeronline.com/detail.php?id=2010_3925&type=hitter
joof - December 8, 2010
Was it accidentally ruled a home run or something?
thehemogoblin - December 8, 2010
OK, and instead of an expensive two-year commitment to a right handed batter
why not give a cheap one year commitment to a younger player who fits the park better and has no history of injuries?
seattlebruin - December 7, 2010
There are other cheaper, younger, healthier options that can do what Vlad can do.
JLProck - December 7, 2010
I am happy that Lookout Landing has come as far as it has, and will now keep my mouth shut.
BrettJMiller - December 7, 2010
Old and brokenish.
Which is lame. I remember back when he was going to sign with the Angels, he actually wanted to sign here (his mom really liked Seattle, and he’s a mama’s boy) but we made no effort because we were too scared to ask Ichiro to move. Which we later did anyway.
JY - December 7, 2010
And 2004 would have been much different.
chaney - December 7, 2010
Well...
- small sample size in Safeco
- our park kills right handed batters
- Vlad is aging and could collapse
- Vlad has battled injuries in the past and offers zero defensive value
- Vlad is likely to be expensive or seek a multi-year deal due to his good season in Texas
I just don’t see any reason for us to be interested in him over Matsui or Cust
seattlebruin - December 7, 2010
-Vlad has never expressed any interest in playing in Seattle
msb - December 7, 2010
Ooohhh forgot about that one!
seattlebruin - December 7, 2010
I'm pretty sure that's wrong though I'd have a hell of a time tracking down archived news on it.
JY - December 7, 2010
I don't think Vlad has ever expressed interest in playing here
I think we’d remember that
seattlebruin - December 7, 2010
I think you're right.
I don’t have the time to track anything down, but I remember he wanted to play in Seattle.
KC Mariner - December 7, 2010
It's not that I don't believe you, but I'd love to see the evidence of this
seattlebruin - December 7, 2010
(sorry if that came off assholish, I legitimately do not remember him ever expressing interest in playing for the Mariners)
seattlebruin - December 7, 2010
It didn't come off as assholish, no worries.
I wish I could easily post a link, it’s just something I seem to remember pretty clearly.
KC Mariner - December 7, 2010
I remember it too, and I hardly paid attention in 04
BrettJMiller - December 7, 2010
I also remember his agent saying they were surprised we did not even talk to him.
Sec 108 - December 7, 2010
Watching him run is like watching a double amputee try on his new legs for the first time.
kentroyals5 - December 7, 2010
The only concern I would have is L/R balance at the top of the lineup, since you're likely looking at
Ichiro, Ackley, Smoak and DH near the top by the end of 2011, but that’s still not even close to worth the additional investment in money and years to Vlad
seattlebruin - December 7, 2010
The O's are pushing for Bartlett.
I think we should make a push for him if he is available.
Cthaller59 - December 7, 2010
Mariners, along with Padres D'backs, interested in Jorge Cantu, says Tim Brown
Eyeball Kid - December 7, 2010
Mariners in on every non Type A FA!
Kick the shit out’em tires Z!
Scruffy Lefty - December 7, 2010
Love it.
msb - December 7, 2010
Zduriencik is also a member of the Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club.
JY - December 7, 2010
Mariners are also interested in Kevin Gregg apparently.
According to Ken Rosenthal.
Coach Owens - December 7, 2010
Now all we need to do is find Kevin Zaun.
JY - December 7, 2010
Or Gregg Gregg.
Coach Owens - December 7, 2010
Too much.
JY - December 7, 2010
Is his website awesome?
If so, I am interested.
PLU Tim - December 7, 2010
I just can't see this team giving a multiyear contract to any reliever available
Jeff Sullivan - December 7, 2010
Shoulda signed Putz
Poochie - December 7, 2010
STOP THE MOTHAFUCKIN' PRESSES
SHIT IS ON
JY - December 7, 2010
O-LIV-O! O-LIV-O! O-LIV-O!
WORLD MUFUGGIN SERIES!
PLU Tim - December 7, 2010
This is the most Jack Z statement of all time
“we may or may do something. Something might happen that thing might be imminent, but it might not be. We’re talking to others”
seattlebruin - December 7, 2010
I love Jack Z.
kentroyals5 - December 7, 2010
Unless he fucks shit up...
kentroyals5 - December 7, 2010
SHIFT ON!
Scruffy Lefty - December 7, 2010
!!!
Aaron Campeau - December 7, 2010
How would he apply to the maxim that they always get better when they leave?
yuniform - December 7, 2010
They turn into superstars when they come back?
Unless they left as superstars (Griffey)
Scruffy Lefty - December 7, 2010
Beyond the whole Ackley thing, that would be awesome
Corco - December 7, 2010
He's pretty bad
Aaron Campeau - December 7, 2010
Can he still play a little SS?
Scruffy Lefty - December 7, 2010
Not really!
I’d still be fine with taking a shot at him though.
Aaron Campeau - December 7, 2010
I liked his approach while he was in Seattle/Tacoma, and that lefty bat is nice
I think he’s got a lot of life left in him
Corco - December 7, 2010
He was almost 2 wins below replacement with the bat in a little over 300 ABs.
No thanks.
Zwakamatsu - December 7, 2010
I worked well with Boone
Poochie - December 7, 2010
It worked well with Boone
Poochie - December 7, 2010
Prospect Insider says the Mariners are close to signing a position player.
It’s PI-exclusive though.
Coach Owens - December 7, 2010
Details....
Who has ’em?
noeffortatall - December 7, 2010
Well gosh that certainly is worth paying for
Poochie - December 7, 2010
Beltre -> Ranger Rumors.
Scruffy Lefty - December 7, 2010
I thought black people didn't like skating
seattlebruin - December 7, 2010
No thats surfing.
the other side - December 7, 2010
And skiing.
Scruffy Lefty - December 7, 2010
Haha fuck Mike Young
Poochie - December 7, 2010
Can they please just make a move
Any sort of a move. I need something to write.
Ryan Divish - December 7, 2010
You can create a short story starring an albino rhinocerous and his peppy robot companion named Squeek .
CapSea - December 7, 2010
Or I could do a story on the fact that ...
GEOFF BAKER AND DAVE CAMERON HAVE BEEN SITTING AND WORKING NEXT TO EACH OTHER ALL DAY!!
I thought peace in the Middle East would happen sooner.
Ryan Divish - December 7, 2010
Or you could do a piece on your recent work for Santa Claus.
Coach Owens - December 7, 2010
I can't believe those guys took advantage of my boredom.
And then exploited on Twitter… bastards
Ryan Divish - December 7, 2010
Well it's not like the Mariners have done anything interesting that they could
write about either.
Coach Owens - December 7, 2010
See, you needed to counter by getting a shot of Shannon in that chair.
BrianL - December 7, 2010
She wouldn't go near that chair.
Ryan Divish - December 7, 2010
It's all been an act to drum up publicity
They’re like iCarly and Fred
Jeff Sullivan - December 7, 2010
This is upsetting.
SethGrandpa - December 7, 2010
Oh goody, the Rangers are shopping Michael Young.
Coach Owens - December 7, 2010
What would you do if the Mariners got Michael Young?
I mean you’ve hated him for so long.
Ryan Divish - December 7, 2010
Man, I really cannot stand Mike Young
That said, if he plays well I likes him
Poochie - December 7, 2010
Of course Texas would have to inherit one of our problems
Poochie - December 7, 2010
With his contract, I'd never forgive GMZ.
MT Olson - December 7, 2010
Only 3 more years!
Mariner John - December 7, 2010
Meh
Thats a pretty big contract for a guy who just turned 34.
the other side - December 7, 2010
Rosenthal reporting that the Rangers might pick up some of the contract.
the other side - December 7, 2010
Like Chone Figgins
I would like him if he did well, but my hate would grow if he performed poorly. And something tells me the Arlington—→Safeco transition wouldn’t go too well.
Fuckmikereilly - December 7, 2010
But he's the best player in the AL West!
Coach Owens - December 7, 2010
Laugh, embrace all the writing material
Jeff Sullivan - December 7, 2010
Hope someone dusts off a Matt Young jersey.
1990: 8-18 record, 1.9 WAR.
yuniform - December 7, 2010
So the Rangers had two highly touted 1B prospects and will likely have traded them both
Goose - December 7, 2010
That just leaves a spot open for their upcoming Pujols trade.
JAH - December 7, 2010
Don't forget in the past trading Texiera and Adrian Gonzalez.
Scruffy Lefty - December 7, 2010
Beltre to 3rd and Mike Young to 1b?
Scruffy Lefty - December 7, 2010
Now I'm just spitting nonsense.
Scruffy Lefty - December 7, 2010
Christ Davis blows anyway.
abender20 - December 7, 2010
Tis the season.
abender20 - December 7, 2010
GO CUBS GO
Poochie - December 7, 2010
.
So much for the Saunders/Matt Diaz platoon
Eyeball Kid - December 7, 2010
Foiled by those big spending, free-wheeling Pirates again!
yuniform - December 8, 2010
Zach Greinke
If Seattle was seriously in on Adrian Gonzalez so that we could flip him at the All Star break, then theoretically we will be going hard after Greinke as well right?
Capes - December 7, 2010
Your screenname is going to blow my dyslexic fucking mind.
Also, we shouldn’t really go hard on any one year rental since our team will suck next year. Grienke is also probably a harder sell on a long term contract and I have a feeling we were never that hard on him anyway.
CapSea - December 8, 2010
Not to nitpick, but he'd really be a two year rental.
That said, I’m not sure I see much of a match trade-wise between the Royals and the Mariners, but then again, I don’t “trust the process” either so what do I know.
KC Mariner - December 8, 2010
Cliff Lee signing with the Angels would be hilarious just to see everyone do a instant 180 on him.
Robert - December 7, 2010
FUCK THAT SHIT
You stay away from my Cliff, ya fucking dumbass team.
Matt Erickson - December 7, 2010
What's a 180 from "Meh, he played here for two months?"
joof - December 8, 2010
shtnom owt rof ereh deyalp eh hem
CapSea - December 8, 2010
Ow
Poochie - December 8, 2010
Theres talk of Pena to the Cubs.
Heyman reporting right now.
the other side - December 7, 2010
Yea, that's been confirmed by MLB.com
$10M / 1yr.
andrewgolfsalot - December 7, 2010
Taking the Beltre route.
the other side - December 7, 2010
You must Login with your SB Nation account and be a member of Lookout Landing to post a comment.