The Mariners had the second overall pick in this morning's Rule 5 Draft, and they used it on a young reliever out of the Indians' system by the name of Jose Flores. He is one of eight Jose Floreses in professional baseball history, but interestingly, there has never been a single Joe Flowers. Just as there has never been a single Joe Table or Joe Bread And Water.
Flores is a 21 year old righty coming straight from the A-ball Midwest League. Immediately, what that should tell you is that he's a super long shot, just as all Rule 5 picks are super long shots. However, what the Mariners like most about him is that he throws strikes, as he walked just seven batters over 42 innings. The team might feel that a guy who works around the zone has a better chance of sticking than a wilder guy with better stuff, because the ability to locate is the most important ability any pitcher can have.
Flores works off of a fastball in the low-90s. And that's pretty much it, as no one has anything real glowing to say about his secondary stuff. And what this could end up being is a commitment to give Flores a month in spring training to show that he can throw another pitch, too. If Flores suddenly shows that he can throw a changeup or a slider or something, then, great. He probably won't, and as such he'll probably be sent back to the Indians, but that's the way these Rule 5 picks work. Top prospects are protected. Projects are available, and so projects get drafted. Nobody looks to the Rule 5 Draft intending to make an impact addition.
The Mariners have seen Flores pitch. I have not. The Mariners clearly like him enough to have made him a very high selection, and for that reason alone you figure he'll get a real chance. Just don't expect much. If Jose Flores sticks, it will be an absolute shock.
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Why the hell did we pick this guy over Elvin Ramirez, Brad Emaus, or Aneury Rodriguez?
Decatur - December 9, 2010
God, Jack Z is turning to Dayton Moore 2.0.
Decatur - December 9, 2010
No, he hasn't signed any ex-Mariners yet
though if he does in fact sign Olivo, you’ll have a case . . .
The Ancient Mariner - December 9, 2010
Wooo!
Dayton Moore Jr.
w00tah - December 9, 2010
Either this is sarcasm that went way over my head or... really?
SgtSasquatch - December 9, 2010
Who are these other guys anyway?
I’m willing to bet they will all have a similar impact on the upcoming season, little to none,
njd.aitken - December 9, 2010
Even more interesting is that, out of the eight Jose Flores' in professional
baseball history, two of them were already in the Mariners’ organization before today. So if we were to give the Indians cash or something to obtain the rights to this Flores, we could have all three in the minor leagues.
Coach Owens - December 9, 2010
Not quite
the Giants have one too — infielder, he was in the Cal League last year.
The Ancient Mariner - December 9, 2010
rec'd for Jose Paniagua
Dewey N - December 9, 2010
Flores doesn't have to stick on the major league roster does he?
Don’t Rule 5 picks that are in A-ball or lower only have to stick with the AAA squad?
coasty141 - December 9, 2010
He has to stick on the M's. He was taken in the major league portion of the draft.
SgtSasquatch - December 9, 2010
Wait, he's on the 40 man now?
SeattExPat - December 9, 2010
Yep.
per this
The selection puts the Mariners’ 40-man roster at a full 40, so someone will have to be moved to create space for the expected signing of free-agent designated hitter Jack Cust once he passes a physical and his agreement is made official.
SgtSasquatch - December 9, 2010
So who goes?
I wish we could get rid of Sean White again.
SeattExPat - December 9, 2010
Jose Flores
Jeff Sullivan - December 9, 2010
I don't understand.
Doesn’t he go back to Cleavland if we take him off of our active roster?
SeattExPat - December 9, 2010
That was a joke
And yes
Jeff Sullivan - December 9, 2010
The Olivo signing sent my skull to Cleaveland
lemonverbena - December 9, 2010
Gotta be Carp, Jimenez or Pegeuro going away
seattlebruin - December 9, 2010
MB + Tons-O'-Cash for a body we don't have to put on a 40 man roster?
Or just cut him outright.
SgtSasquatch - December 9, 2010
That is an interesting thought.
Though I don’t think the front office is willing to part with him.
SeattExPat - December 9, 2010
Here's an economics term that applies: sunk cost.
abender20 - December 9, 2010
Bill Bavasi is never really going away.
the other side - December 9, 2010
Who was that again?
ToddK - December 9, 2010
Vasco da Gama
lemonverbena - December 9, 2010
Weird.
kentroyals5 - December 9, 2010
You could make a nice painting from the Joses
“Still life with bread, water and flowers on the table.”
Bet someone has done that already.
Suburban Shocker - December 9, 2010
There is no Flor(es).
wazzu93 - December 9, 2010
There is a Flores for Algernon
lemonverbena - December 9, 2010
I feel like this is just a weird inside joke the M's FO is playing
Edgar for Pres - December 9, 2010
I like that they are giving me things to keep me entertained at work.
SeattExPat - December 9, 2010
The painting makes me hope he sticks.
ignacio - December 9, 2010
Seems like it would be hard to pitch in that outfit
Nick S - December 9, 2010
Will he be as memorable as Luis Ugueto?
seiferguy - December 9, 2010
Who was he?
ignacio - December 9, 2010
The best worst Rule V draft pick we ever had.
seiferguy - December 9, 2010
Less
Jeff Sullivan - December 9, 2010
Agreed. His name isn't nearly as good.
yuniform - December 9, 2010
Only 2 memorable Rule V picks in recent M's history
Fernando Vina, who was returned after Lou Piniella got fed up with him on the basebpaths following a few baserunning blunders in 1993. The selection of R.A. Dickey in the 2007 Rule 5 Draft. Jesus Flores will probably follow the career path of Kervin Jacobo.
Robert Sullivan - December 10, 2010
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