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Jose Flores Given Chance To Become Newest Forgotten Mariner

Juan José Flores

Juan José Flores

The Mariners had the second overall pick in this morning's Rule 5 Draft, and they used it on a young reliever out of the Indians' system by the name of Jose Flores. He is one of eight Jose Floreses in professional baseball history, but interestingly, there has never been a single Joe Flowers. Just as there has never been a single Joe Table or Joe Bread And Water.

Flores is a 21 year old righty coming straight from the A-ball Midwest League. Immediately, what that should tell you is that he's a super long shot, just as all Rule 5 picks are super long shots. However, what the Mariners like most about him is that he throws strikes, as he walked just seven batters over 42 innings. The team might feel that a guy who works around the zone has a better chance of sticking than a wilder guy with better stuff, because the ability to locate is the most important ability any pitcher can have.

Flores works off of a fastball in the low-90s. And that's pretty much it, as no one has anything real glowing to say about his secondary stuff. And what this could end up being is a commitment to give Flores a month in spring training to show that he can throw another pitch, too. If Flores suddenly shows that he can throw a changeup or a slider or something, then, great. He probably won't, and as such he'll probably be sent back to the Indians, but that's the way these Rule 5 picks work. Top prospects are protected. Projects are available, and so projects get drafted. Nobody looks to the Rule 5 Draft intending to make an impact addition.

The Mariners have seen Flores pitch. I have not. The Mariners clearly like him enough to have made him a very high selection, and for that reason alone you figure he'll get a real chance. Just don't expect much. If Jose Flores sticks, it will be an absolute shock.

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Why the hell did we pick this guy over Elvin Ramirez, Brad Emaus, or Aneury Rodriguez?
God, Jack Z is turning to Dayton Moore 2.0.
No, he hasn't signed any ex-Mariners yet

though if he does in fact sign Olivo, you’ll have a case . . .

Wooo!

Dayton Moore Jr.

Either this is sarcasm that went way over my head or... really?
Who are these other guys anyway?

I’m willing to bet they will all have a similar impact on the upcoming season, little to none,

Even more interesting is that, out of the eight Jose Flores' in professional

baseball history, two of them were already in the Mariners’ organization before today. So if we were to give the Indians cash or something to obtain the rights to this Flores, we could have all three in the minor leagues.

Not quite

the Giants have one too — infielder, he was in the Cal League last year.

rec'd for Jose Paniagua
Flores doesn't have to stick on the major league roster does he?

Don’t Rule 5 picks that are in A-ball or lower only have to stick with the AAA squad?

He has to stick on the M's. He was taken in the major league portion of the draft.
Wait, he's on the 40 man now?
Yep.

per this

The selection puts the Mariners’ 40-man roster at a full 40, so someone will have to be moved to create space for the expected signing of free-agent designated hitter Jack Cust once he passes a physical and his agreement is made official.

So who goes?

I wish we could get rid of Sean White again.

Jose Flores
I don't understand.

Doesn’t he go back to Cleavland if we take him off of our active roster?

That was a joke

And yes

The Olivo signing sent my skull to Cleaveland
Gotta be Carp, Jimenez or Pegeuro going away
MB + Tons-O'-Cash for a body we don't have to put on a 40 man roster?

Or just cut him outright.

That is an interesting thought.

Though I don’t think the front office is willing to part with him.

Here's an economics term that applies: sunk cost.
Bill Bavasi is never really going away.
Who was that again?
You could make a nice painting from the Joses

“Still life with bread, water and flowers on the table.”

Bet someone has done that already.

There is no Flor(es).
There is a Flores for Algernon
I feel like this is just a weird inside joke the M's FO is playing
I like that they are giving me things to keep me entertained at work.
The painting makes me hope he sticks.
Seems like it would be hard to pitch in that outfit
Will he be as memorable as Luis Ugueto?
Who was he?
The best worst Rule V draft pick we ever had.
Less
Agreed. His name isn't nearly as good.
Only 2 memorable Rule V picks in recent M's history

Fernando Vina, who was returned after Lou Piniella got fed up with him on the basebpaths following a few baserunning blunders in 1993. The selection of R.A. Dickey in the 2007 Rule 5 Draft. Jesus Flores will probably follow the career path of Kervin Jacobo.

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