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4/12: Open Game Thread, Part 2

1) I can't believe we're losing again. I'm starting to get worried.

2) We're winning! Nothing like a trip home to cure all conceivable ills.

3) Tie game! ooooh!

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Seriously, this is stupud.
This sure is a long commercial break
Yeah, not like we missed anything though

Not like we’d ever miss anything if MLB.TV always skipped over our half of the inning.

4) No hitter! Yeah!
end yourself.

<3

YOU JINXED IT
I'M SORRY

THIS IS ALL MY FAULT

You owe Hyphen a beer.

Bastard.

WHOA AN AUTO THREAD
Is it just me...

or is this starting to feel like 2008 again?

Just you.
I hope so, I really do

I’m just a fan who gets frustrated by not scoring runs. Duchsherer is good, but not this good.

No-hitter: gone.
There goes the No-no
Yeah, we're going to lose this game by getting shut out
Wow

Nice meatball there Hyphen. WTF

PENNINGTON YOU DICK
Am I the only one who hates Cliff Pennington with a flaming passion?
Cliff Pennington?

Really?

Fucking WoW RRS.
Why did he do that on an 0-2 count?
Where the fuck is his bendy thing is my question
Rob Johnson doesn't believe in bendy things.
I'm going to assume RR-S called that one.
FUCK ROB JOHNSON
This is annoying.
Cliff Lee returning will help this team score runs won't it..?
0-2 HR to Cliff fucking Pennington.
So the thread at 5 PM idea worked out really good
IF THERE'S ONE THING JEFF KNOWS IT'S HIS SHIT
Wow, thank you Dave Sims.

While you’re at it, mention a few other things that the A’s are doing bad at.

I hate feeling like being down 2-0 is insurmountable
I'd love to not be negative, but whatever

It’s becoming just a LITTLE hard.

Okay I love you RRS but you really need to get your shit together.
Aren't the Mariners supposed to win on occasion?
My expectations are Astros level now.

Except Felix days.

So, really: Astros level.

They win 1 in every 5, too.

About 52% of the time according to various projection systems.
WOW

Nasty Pitch there Hyphen

oh HI

thanks for throwing that to Pennington.

Where was that on the 0-2 to Pennington?
0-1
No

0-2

No, 0-1

RRS threw that curve to make it 0-2. He threw it when the count was 0-1.

facepalm.

That has nothing to do with the question.

Yes it does.

Throwing a 72 mph curveball after a 72 mph curveball is incredibly risky. Not quite as risky as a 88 mph fastball on the inside corner, but still risky.

It's called 'the dirt'.
It was an 0-2 count when he hit the homerun

Which is what he’s asking about I think. It was a fastball in the upper right corner of the zone.

Do more of that!
Only 71 Pitches

Through 6. Not bad really.

In other news... my other favorite team has just given up 11 runs to the Padres

In one inning.

That's really hard to do
I could look it up, but I'm too lazy.

Who?

The Padres offense can't be stopped. Like asking the wind not to blow.
Only 1 out!
I know. Horrific inning.
Don't worry, Jason Heyward will just hit three grand slams with one swing.
Actually... I wouldn't be surprised.

Dude’s a stud.

Wait:

Other favorite team? You can do that?

Why of course!
Only if they're in the NL and you never root for them over your main team

Go Dodgers! (I’ve been living in LA for 6.5 years or so)

Braves are my team (I'm in Atlanta)
I adopted the Rockies as my "other team."
Did you adopt them

during that storm of god awful bandwagoning called “Rock-tober?”

Since moving to Wyoming I've tried really really hard to become a Rockies fan

I just can’t do it for some reason- the team just isn’t likable

Do they even have any good hitters not named Adrian Gonzalez

I can’t remember

Spring Fair in Puyallup = Furry Convention?
Don't even joke about that.

I worked at the Marriott during a furry convention. And…well, ew.

Bahahahha

That’s funny

Tis a shame.

RRS looks like he could get through at least eight innings. Where for art thou offense?

Ummmm another long commercial break?
Should be back on.
Here comes some runs!

… I hope…

Hey guys, the top of the order is coming up!

Is it too much to ask for either Ichiro or Figgins to get on?

Yes. It is indeed too much.
And steal three bases?
Our lineup is more roundish
Ichi-bomb! Please?
Come on Chone!!!
If the Padres can have an 11 run inning, so can we.
The Padres don't have Rob Johnson.
Shit. You're right.
We could have a 12!
Is anyone else's FSN Comcast feed

producing a totally crap picture? I haven’t heard the broadcasters mention it.

My click feed looks good

No mention of Comcast from the broadcasters

Clear as day.
HD feed in Portland is having issues.

All other channels are fine.

I'm in Federal Way. No issue at all.
Mine was, so I turned the TV off

Especially noticeable with the text in their graphics

Chone.

Get. On. Base.

No ONE is hitting the ball.

This shit is amazing.

Well minus Guti.
Fuck Dale Scott!
Aberdeen

I wonder if the South Dakota version is as pleasant as the Washington version.

PITCHF/X disagrees with that call.
Poo balls.
I give up.
As far as I can tell you gave up at 1-2.
Probably more accurate.
Wow

Douchwater has a 1-hitter through 6. This is fucking embarrassing.

We are looking really bad offensively
He knew that was a ball.

Took him like 20 seconds to ring him up.

Figgins thought it was a strike. He hesitated after turning away and just stood there waiting for the call.
This is terrible. Can someone PLEASE hit the ball?
This is getting awful.

HEY JACK CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE US AN OFFENSE THAT DOESN’T SUCK ON WHEELS BECAUSE WE’VE SEEN THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW AND IT’S REALLY GETTING ANNOYING.

My thoughts exactly...

You can play defense until the cows come home, but if you can’t score, you can’t win. Sick of this shit!

This team is so fucking depressing
A little league team

filled with 14 year old paraplegic swiss girls could produce more runs

I call bullshit.
They would probably get a pity run.
If they're not in their wheelchairs, TINY strike zone. Lots of walks.
Yeah, but they would have massive holes in their swings
only in a neutral runscoring environment
Can't believe there've only been 2 hits in this game.
This 3 up, 3 down bullshit is depressing the fuck out of me.
Looks like our 1-2-3 hitters

did not take the hitters’ advantage from their first two trips to the plate

Ryan

Seriously, wtf dude. Throw strikes for God’s sake.

It's only April. I'm not worried yet.

That is all.

Don't bring your rationality into the game threads

you’ll upset people.

This is frustrating though. We had a chance to get a runner in from third and we couldn't do it.
That's just one time though.

The offense is being incredibly frustrating right now but this in all likelihood will not continue.

I would be less worried if the offense would show some shred of competence. Like, real soon.
Fuck you Rob Johnson

I don’t care, I’m not amused

DID ROB JOHNSON JUST BLOCK A FUCKING BALL?

HOLY SHIT.

I THINK I JUST SAW A PIG FLYING BY MY WINDOW.
Way to not fail Robby.
RRS is however making me pull out my hair.
What?

Johnson blocked that?

Time for the hook.
RRS gets to 2-0 and just says fuck it I'm walking him
Anybody up in the pen?
Man, when Ryan decides to walk someone

He doesn’t mess around

Oh dear this could be a bad inning.
Whoa, new scoreboard over the bullpen! It has colors!
Dear Hyphen,

Throw strikes. Sincerely, your fans.

P.S. Don’t throw balls.

Just got here, why is the picture so jaggy?
Because not even the producers want to watch this fucking team on offense right now
Are you in Portland?
Seattle-ish area on Verizon FIOS
Comcast looks terrible in Portland

Most people have said it looks fine

But, yeah, jagged here.
Hmm alright, I hope this isnt a consistent thing.
Rosales

The goofiest mother fucker ever.

Eric Byrnes esque?
Goofier.

Byrnes thinks he’s cool, while Rosales just looks like the lanky nerdy guy who got a wish granted to play pro baseball for a day.

Fuck guys!

No one covers 3rd?

It's Lopez, what do you expect?
Shouldn't Jack be running to third on that play?
No, he covered 2nd
Kotchman charges on the bunt, Figgins to 1st, Wilson to 2nd.

That leaves 3rd as the only base to cover.

Inexperienced 3B.

It hurts.

I'll chalk it up to growing pains for Lopez.
That had DP written all over it. Damn.
As Roger Dorn would say

STRIKE THIS MOTHER FUCKER OUT.

Or "This guy" if it's on netowrk TV
Because "guy" totally lines up with the lip motions of "mother fucker."
Yes.

More of this, Ryan.

That really is a pretty pitch

But where the fuck has it been?

No idea, but I agree with you
0-2 what is going to happen?
His last 0-2 ended badly
Good pitch choice

Only problem is you’re throwing to Rob FUCKING Johnson

I HATE THIS MOTHERFUCKER
Why
Because he's bad.
BECAUSE HE'S FUCKING TERRIBLE

WHAT THE FUCK, HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THIS

I knew he was bad. Just didn't know that that was the only reason you had to hate him.
Seriously
I seriously didn't know.
FUCK YOU ROB CATCH THE FUCKING BALL
RRS actually has pitched a decent game

I’d like to get a win for him

Decent?
Only given up 2 runs

He’s not exactly getting lit up like Snell

6 BB?

Say what you will about our anemic offense, but that is ugly.

Ok nevermind

I spoke too soon. I hate me.

FUCK. ROB. JOHNSON
Way to hang on Robo Rob
FUCK FUCK FUCK

ROB FUCKING JOHNSON

CATCH THE BALL YOU POINTLESS FUCK
LEARN TO FUCKING CATCH!
Rob Fucking Johnson.
Robo Rob

has a glove made of steel

God damnit Rob.
Rob fucking Johnson
I HATE ROB JOHNSON

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

That is all.

Our pitchers are masochists. They love fucking Rob Johnson.
This could read two ways, I just found out.
You don't fool me
Might want to rephrase that
Wish we had an editing function
They just love Rob Johnson fucking them
ROB JOHNSON.

FUCK YOU.

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my God.

I’m fucking speechless.

ARGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I'm gonna go kill myself now.
WELCOME TO SEATTLE
THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN A STRIKEOUT LONG AGO FUCK YOU ROB JOHNSON
Remember when Hyphen struck him out, but Rob Johnson fucking dropped it
When was this
I dunno; gonna have to be more specific.
WHEN RRS FUCKING STRUCK OUT GABE GROSS BUT ROB JOHNSON DROPPED THE FUCKING BALL!
I vaguely recall this occurance
NEEDS MORE CAPS!
FUCK YOU ROB JOHNSON YOU CUNTY PRICK BASTARD

WHO SUCKS ON SHIT FUCK ARGH

Thanks Rob. Thanks Bradley.
Both runs score either way
Yeah but since when do we congratulate errors?
Catcher dropped foul-tips that should have been strikeouts should be counted.

So everyone knows how shitty Johnson is.

It's Rob Johnson, they'll go down as wild pitches or something.
"Well, it hit him right in the fucking glove, but it's Rob Johnson. Hmmm. Must be a wild pitch."
Run expectancy lost from Johnson's dropped third strike is probably something around .5

What a douche.

SELL SELL SELL!
Upgraded defense?
A couple of Raul-esque moments for Bradley.
This can be easily resolved by making him a DH.
No one wants Bradley hugging them
And less dead weight on the bench.
But then who would play left?
Langerhans or Saunders.
NOT A SERIOUS QUESTION!
Thats reaching for it on the sarcasm detector.
Byrnes or Saunders.
Rob Johnson's fault.
Bradley does not understand spin.

Which should be a prerequisite for playing left field. In T ball.

Remember that one time when we were actually out of the inning but Rob Johnson fucked it up?
That's never happened.
Griffey:

5 run homer next inning. You just wait, you.

He’s the pick to click, after all.

Fuck that zombie*

We need that Jack Wilson to step up and take one for the hamstrings

*Bill Kreuger

Dave Sims calling out Rob

YES!

Jack Z only cares about defense when it can be measured by UZR.
I just got in to see Rob Johnson cost us 2 runs

That was absolutely hilarious. If we have to lose, I’m glad we lose in a way that completely validates my hatred for a player.

It should be 2-0 right now. This is BULLSHIT.
Correction

It should be 2-1. But yeah, I get what you’re saying

Yeah, we would still end up shut out, but then we could lose by less.
I'm giving this another half-inning before I bail.

My new Netflix movies just arrived and I’m dying to check them out.

Wow

The more I watch the Mariners, the more I hate Rob fucking Johnson.

We need Rob Johnson gifs
We have them, just not sidebar'd
We just need less Rob Johnson.
Okay. Here's Johnson as a kid

Oh, that is fucking cold.
I hope Torii Hunter came to his birthday.
AW SHIT YEAH
This makes me happier than it should.

Am I bad person?

The real Rob Johnson would miss the candle
I used to like Robo Rob

But this is just ridiculous

I can't possibly fathom how
I hated Johjima

with a passion that’s almost holy. That’s why.

Why? He had a couple of the best catcher seasons in Mariners history.
Because he couldn't call a game to save his life.
How do you know this?
By watching the game.

Rob calls a better game. Or at least he did last year.

You're kidding.

Do you not see him looking in the dugout most of the time?

I hear he has a good cERA, too.
Rob Johnson doesn't call the game, he gets it form Wak.
Pitchers choose their pitches, and come up with a gameplan with the coaches before every game.
I can't possibly fathom why

Are you Jarrod Washburn?

If so, fuck you.
WE'RE STILL NOT SIGNING YOU BITCH
Possibly the best offensive catcher in M's history with a good throwing arm

What’s to hate?

I hope we score exactly 3 runs
Loafie!

A hit! A hit!

as quickly as the gods smiled upon us

Junior will take it away.

GUYS WE HAVE ANOTHER HIT
Rizzs sounded genuinely surprised that that fell in
NOW HERE COMES GRIFFEY TO FUCK EVERYTHING UP
Time for a Griffbomb.
Here comes Griffey.

Gonna tie it at 2-2 or meekly K again.

Oh…

So, Jr. GIDP?
Almost, but no! Junior!
WAY TOO CLOSE

RETIRE

Griffey!

Beat out a DP! Way to run, you fat old man!

OAKLAND STOP PLAYING DEFENSE WE NEED TO CATCH UP
I don't think they need to play defense at this point.
I hope we score exactly 3 runs, and then we load the bases for Rob Johnson and he strikes out on 3 pitches.
I want everyone to hate Rob Johnson.

Everyone.

Mission already accomplished.
The entire Mariners organization begs to differ.
No, I even want casual fans to hate Rob Johnson.

I want Rob Johnson’s mom to hate Rob Johnson.

I have a feeling she already does
For me it's more numb
This would be great.

If everyone already didn’t hate him already.

Griff was out if that throw was on target. That is some amazingly slow speed.
40 years old? Hamstrings shot?

Fucking duh?

But he's really fast

in those Nike shoes. Ask his friend Torii

Ryan Braun agrees,
Milton has like a .250 OBP even with the 1-for-22

That’s awesome.

Kotchman GIDP?
That's my guess
Solid base hit right to an Oakland infielder
He tried so hard to make it happen
Slight OBP boost!
Man, this team is sure playing like shit. Good thing it's still preseason cause Sweeney's on the bench and

OH FUCKING GOD IT’S APRIL 12 SELL SELL SELL

Come on boys, time for a rally.

Time for a what?

Need a Krotchshot here.
Do that again Kotch.

Except this time, fair.

Yay for long foul ball HRs
Jesus Christ Kotch...

STRAIGHTER

He was born that way!

And their just eyes!

Fuck, that was really close to 3 runs.
Do that again, only the other side of the pole.
That is too bad.
I'll name my first born 'Casey', if he hits one out...

Well, that might upset the folks. First dog?

GROUNDBALL OF OUR DOOM
I smell a doily coming up.
I'd love a doily!
Please please please please please

PRETTY FUCKING PLEASE can we drive in these two runners?

Pathetic GB.

ROB JOHNSON TIME!

Bradley JUUUST fast enough.
Bradley looked like he was about to lower his shoulder too.
Albert Belle style
I think he should have gone for the A-Rod special and kicked the glove.
YES ROB JOHNSON AT THE PLATE
Here's where everyone falls in love with Rob momentarily
Even if he did get a hit, he cost us 2 runs last half, so no Rob love.
I'm so glad Rob Johnson is at bat right now
ROB YOU BETTER FUCKING REDEEM YOURSELF RIGHT HERE
Oh Christ!!

The Johnson’s back!!!!

Come on Rob, time to try your very best!
This is just perfect
HIT HIM WITH THE BALL!
God, what's Pat Borders up to.
Double secret back up catcher for the Toledo Mudhens
Then what is Rick Wilkins doing.
DO HORRIBLY

YOU ARE COMPLETELY CAPABLE

SAHHHHHWWWWINNNNNNNNNNGGGGGG AND A MISS
Nice to have a quality lefty bat on the bench to pich hit here...

Oh yeah AAA

This feels like one of those times where Rob Johnson hits an inesplicable double.
No it doesn't
Is that like an inexplicable double?
I don't feel it.
HEY BATTER BATTER HEY BATTER BATTER

SWWWWING BATTER BATTER

Why does it seem like Rob comes to the plate

every ninth time?

Rob Johnson is a lucky twat
NOW STRIKE THE FUCK OUT FUCK HEAD!
Is this really happening?
Walks are good.

Walks are good!

OH C'MON THAT WAS STRIKE THREE, UMP

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

Way to lean into it! I likey
Shawn Kelley in the pen.
Rob Johnson and Jack WIlson?
Pinch-hit Tui for Wilson after Johnson walks please.
Tui for Johnson would be a wiser offensive investment.
Defensive too, probably.
That's true. If we had Langerhans a Tui PH then Langerhans PH would be pretty cool.
WHY IS MIKE SWEENEY ON THIS TEAM?
Ice cream pies>a real bench
Oh my FUCKING god.
There's a shocker.
THERE IS NO FLOOR
That's the Rob Johnson we all know and...

well, y’know.

FUCK
Maybe we don't all know.

Because I do not have the required amount of affection for Rob Johnson to do that. Quite the opposite, in fact.

You could do it to him in surprise!
EMBARRASSING K

WEAK GROUNDOUT CLOSE ENOUGH

That has to be the worst bottom of the order in the AL
Gold star for effort
I FUCKING HATE ROB JOHNSON MORE THAN I HATED ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING
THIS ALMOST MAKES ME MISS RENE RIVERA
Jesus Christ. I can't even take any more of this.
Padres are winning 14-0.

Why do we suck so fucking much?

Because the baseball gods hate us
ONE LESS RUN THEN WE'VE SCORED

ALL SEASON

Wrong
Thanks, because that wasn't hyperbole
Well, it's reasonably close

So I wasn’t sure

It's 21 entering today

Which means, hey, 21!

And this is why they're our hated rivals!
The Royals are better than us
The Rainiers are better than us
Next LL fundraiser:

Hiring a professional assassin to rub out Rob Johnson.

We really don't even need to go that far.

He’s so brittle, we just need someone to hit him with a pillow and then he’ll break 2 bones and need another hip replacement.

BRING UP BARD
Justice, thy name is Rob Johnson
MORE BOOS I WANT TO HEAR MORE BOOS WHEN ROB JOHNSON FAILS
ROB JOHNSON BOOS ARE MY RAISON D'ETRE
We're going to go through a hot stretch at some point.

There are 162 games in a season. We’ve played about 8.

Where the fuck is our offense?

Seriously. D is fine and all that but really?

We need to bring the THUNDER back to Seattle.

I don't think they'd be any better at hitting than our current line up.
Great word choice.
Find some insipration.
FREE JOSH BARD
This game is making me nauseous.
God I hate Rob Johnson
This game has successfully converted me to hating Rob Johnson
Then we can list this game as a small victory!

Welcome to enlightenment.

What took you so long?

I’m genuinely curious.

You didn't already?

You must have the patience of a saint.

Quick someone clone Joe Mauer
Or Matt Wieters!
Harper's going to the Nats.
Not if the Astros can help it
Harper is getting drafted this season.
I wonder what the threshold has been set at internally

Below which this team will no longer play Rob Johnson. I’m thinking like a solid .125 BA with 2-3 passed balls/game.

*Wild Pitches

Johnson doesn’t give up passed balls, silly.

That was a strike.
Shawn Kelley!

Woo, AAA pitching!

So you guys remember when we had this on guy named Varitek and we traded him away?
It's a shame he passed on
for Heathcliffe Slocumb!

I forget, which one is still playing???

Can I link youtube videos on here?

It is baseball related.

No.
Ok well it had to do with Chan Ho Park and Diarrhea as an explanation as to why he pitched so poorly on opening day.
At least he was honest.
Well, since Kelley is throwing!

I dont know if I want to rec this.

It makes me offended and mad just watching it.

Now there's a Rob Johnson gif!
This gif completes the highlight reel of Rob Johnson's life.
Can someone kidnap Felix's dog or something and frame Rob Johnson?
That fucking changeup is nice.
My girlfriend tells me that all the time
Jesus Christ Barton... swing at SOMETHING.
10 walks now!
Yeah, like all those strikes the ump is calling balls!

What the hell!?

Remember when the Mariners were supposed to be annoying to other teams?

Looks like that backfired towards us.

I hope Rob Johnson

… Pulls an Adrian Beltre. Y’know, with the penis and such.

Stupid cups.

Oopsie dasies!

Pitch 5 and Pitch 8 to Barton are both strikes.
I actually hate Daric Barton more than Rob Johnson.
WHAAAA?
I know it's blasphemous, but seriously, even his name makes me angry.

Who spells derek, daric?

Daric Barton's parents do.
Tim Tschida, is that you?
So much for the generous strike zone this ump had been giving earlier
Where the hell was that, asshole?
Okay, I give up.

I’m going to watch a Don Bluth movie and drown my sorrows.

Ready for giant computers and no more humans behind the plate.
We already have Rob Johnson back there
Disk drives would have fewer passed balls.
Oh shit

A real catcher is up to bat.

UGH NOT KURT SUZUKI.
Jermaine Dye is a free agent, right?
I don't think he can play catcher.
Neither can our catcher, coincidentally.
Neither can Rob Johnson.
Late.
It's a sentiment that deserves an echo.
Just what we need, another DH
Even if signed with us he'd suck

Let him sign with Oakland or someone else and hit 20 homers.

We don't have room for another DH.
Another nice pitch.
Suzuki looked silly on that second strike pitch.
TAKE A SEAT KURT!
OKAY. NOW DOES ANYONE WANT TO FUCKING SCORE RUNS?

Does anyone even know what those are?

Cool down.

Jack Wilson coming up.

It’s all good!

The things you let the other team have.

Because your mom said only sluts score runs.

If we're going to produce

Now’s the time.

Time for Jack Wilson strikeouts!

Ichiro popups!
And Figgins failure!

Please, top of the lineup, do something, once…

This game sucks.

Why can’t we do what the almighty predicted and win 90 – 95 games like he said?
I’m a sad panda who is trapped in a box

You're a bento?
I have no clue as to what that is...

and with family in the room, I am not sure if I want to look

It's a Japanese lunch box.
Japanese pre-packed lunch box.
Ah. Then that probably describes what I said so yes.
Half-innings without Rob Johnson related incidents: 1
Well they just replayed some Rob Johnson fuck ups.

Not so free.

PLATE TOUCHING. NEED TO TOUCH MAD PLATE
Let's see how few pitches the top of the lineup can take while still going down in order

My guess: 6.

I'll take the under.
Going with 7.

And Jack just hit the first fucking pitch.

Jack Wilson: 2 pitches, right on target!
Oh, thought that was the first pitch.

Thank god it wasn’t.

ESPN had us @ 58% chance to win this game.
Before the game?
Yes. Before the game.

SSS? Also, that means that you’ll still lose the game 42% of the time…

Please remember to use the subject line.
Subject line, please.
Look, it's a Rob Johnson pussy montage.
Oh yay. A game recap. Exactly what we want to see right now. Fuck you FSN
We've got the chance to be the best 1-2 in baseball history!

I hope!

Not great timing by FSN, I should say.

NOT ONLY DID HE DROP THE BALL, HE FUCKING JUMPED UP AND CELEBRATED.
That was 100% my favorite part
I hope he tries to cut himself in the hotel bathroom after today
That's what I'm going to be doing, anyways.
WHAT?!

Already one out? You’re kidding me.

Did they even show it?

I wasn’t paying attention but I’m pretty sure they didn’t

Great, so we're going to get shut out in our home opener

Nice….

Nah. Mike Sweeney's good for the meaningless 9th inning RBI.
This asshole better be the next A-Rod but a switch hitter.
I HOPE ROB JOHNSON DIES FROM A PERFORATED COLON
I can arrange that
Is there really a commercial going on right now?!
FUCKING SHIT.
DAMNIT! SO CLOSE!
Ichiro!

Foul by an inch.

All right gents let's win this baseball game
That was close

Good thing its spring training

This is setting up perfectly for the Rob Johnson special
Fucking Wow.
And another Out

Ichi-d’oh

Shitty popups woooo
Eric Byrnes Disease is contagious
Why the hell am I still watching?

Ugh.

For the 5 run 9th?
It feels like I'm watching a little league game.
With each inning we don't score, I die a little inside.
You'll be dead by May
Unless Cliff Lee revives me.
You're a lot dead, then.
At least I'm getting paid to be here.

Cause this pretty painful to watch

Who's paying you?
I feel for ya, Divish.
Ugh, wrong "reply"
The McClatchy Company, owner of The News Tribune of Tacoma.
I'd give the money back.

And go home.

pretty bad when even the local media needs a channel for venting
Div can come vent here anytime he wants.

If he doesn’t mind the whole universe seeing it.

Not much you can really say, is there?
Yeah, my Bill Bavasi comment from spring training pretty much sums up my willingness to say anything
I must have missed that one.

What was it? (off the record of course… hurr).

.

Here

Technically, Divish's mother said that
Oh wow.

No, I bet that didn’t make work uncomfortable for a bit.

I'm glad it seems slightly less suicidal over here than on USSM.
We all just want to put a hit on Rob Johnson.
Dropping that ball won't show up in the WE, will it?
It will in RRA

Rob’s Runs Allowed

I really doubt Rob would still be around, even with the org's baffling infatuation with him,

if he played a quantifiable position.

It's actually quite quantifiable

He plays catcher; He does not catch the ball.

Does the FO not watch the games?
its not ...

… are suicidal candidates have already committed the deed.

We're more bloodthristy, though
Yesterday was much more suicidal.

I think the most volatile ones are dead already.

New scoreboard is really green.
I don't see any solar panels
Like it

Now if only we’d replace our really tiny jumbotron.

But where would people advertise!?
On the screen

Enter the 21st Century Ms, junk the matrix board and go with the mega jumbtron like they have at Qwest.

Milton makes a catch!
Anyone else think Sean White looks like a monkey?
He's white though.
Hah!

I was just thinking that.

If he was better at baseball, I’d probably avoid such commentary. Alas, he is not.

He looks like a white dude to me.
That was a strike.

More computers, less umpires.

God damn, I just saw the score

And we are a fucking minor league team

Had to step out for a little while

I see we still suck balls.

I wonder how pitchers feel when Rob Johnson comes out to the mound to assure them, only to later find out Rob Johnson isn't capable of catching a baseball.
Third game I'm shutting off before completion and it's the first damn week of the season.

This is depressing

Andrew fucking Bailey!?!?

C’mon it’s not even a save opportunity!

That's respect.

We’re contenders, remember?

Epic comeback time.

And by epic comeback I mean Mike Sweeney.

Griffey:

5 run homer next inning. You just wait, you.

PICK TO CLICK, BABY

I predict a 3-run Griffbomb followed by Rob Johnson making the last out.
Sounds about right.
If only we were that good...
Geoff Baker was right.

Sean White is magical. The way his pitches come up to the plate spin so that it creates one of those swirly hypnosis thingies. The batter is lulled into swinging at it and not hitting a home run.

They then cluck like chickens back in the dugout.

"Productive out"

I hate that phrase

What an oxymoron
COME ON BITCHES LOAD 'EM UP FOR A BRADLEY SLAM
Welp this one is over.
Oh yeah, Bailey is good

Forgot about that

Guti that wasn't sexy at all what the fuck
An auspicious beginning.
LETS HIT BACK TO BACK TO BACK TO BACK HOME RUNS AND BRAKE ANDREW BAILEY
BRAKE???

disc, or drum?

Compression
That really wasn't a strike.
Loafie going back to his 'take the first pitch regardless' mentality.
Way to be patient, Lopez.
Griffey better not get out

Rob deserves the honor

Well now a Griffey K is the most predictable outcome ever
More than a loss?
Can we do worse? Is there nowhere to go but up?
Well, we could be 0-7, so, yeah, there's still room to devolve.
we haven't set the all time loss record yet...

… it would look nice right next to our all time wins record, don’t you think?

What's our team BABIP? .150?

Balls in play, hard or not, are right at people. Or robbed by non-Gutierrez centerfielders.

Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).

My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.

No, but regression back to the mean will be fucking sweet.

If things go like they are, that should happen right about the time Cliff Lee comes back, which means Cliff Lee will get major credit for helping turn the team around…. etc.

Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).

My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.

Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).

My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.

You're not Corco.

You’re ChristopherB

LEZZGO GRIFFDAWG

WOOF WOOF

RETIRE

YOU’VE HAD YOUR OVATION ON OPENING DAY, YOU ARE OF NO FURTHER USE

Please..

It looked weird to see him standing in uniform with The Big Unit, Edgar, Jay and Wilson during the pregame…

Griffey:

5 run HR on an 0-2 count.

BELIEVE BIG (that having nothing to do with Griffey’s waistline).

CMON MAN A WALK IS FINE HERE
DAMMIT GRIFFEY HIT ONE OUT!
WOW WHAT A HUGE FOUL HIT
THAT WAS THE HOME RUN SWING
What a fucking embarrassing game.
JUST GET A HIT YOU CAN'T DRIVE IN FOUR RUNS RIGHT HERE
Fuck a duck.
or an elephant
Jumping off the cliff later, who wants to join
Mike Sweeney might join you out of politeness if you asked him.
HE'S GOING TO SWING AND MISS ON A BIG UGLY SWING
STOP BEING OLD GRIFFEY
IN Z WE TRUST!
Fuck you, Rob Johnson
Hey Ryan?

You can go home now.

First shut-out of the year.

Held that one off as long as we could.

GOD!

He hit that right on the screws =/

AEIOG;AIOGHE;AOGFN;AKJDLBN;AEWJRF;IL ADVLJAHE;RLIUAEWIPOFJ; ALEJ

:(

Look on the bright side.

We have the best under performing team in the league.

This is probably the worst Mariner offense I've seen.

Superlative.

It isn't.

Getting owned by shittastic Quad-A right handers because we had a hacktastic team of mostly righties was much worse.

MUCH worse.

This is just frustrating because the guys we know can hit good aren’t, aside from Franklin, and it’s not like the rest of the team is good enough to carry us.

This team exhausts me.

I hope we can get it together here in the next few games. It’s too early to press the panic button… but eventually it will be too LATE not too.

I dunno; I have a hard time being harsh re: that Griffey AB.

He swung pretty well, connected, got around on a couple pitches…

He’s just old now…RETIRE.

I don't think the people taking part in the Griffey challenge would like that very much
WOOOOOOOOOOO!

ANOTHER LOSING STREAK STARTED!

Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee
Cant help on offense.
We could always use the DH for Rob Johnson.
Is he a good hitter?

Cause it doesn’t matter otherwise.

Yeah,

but it’s Cliff Lee.

Felix can hit.
I think the Mariners should go without the DH on Felix day.

Completely serious.

Well these last two games have been tonsa fun...
Cliff Pennington went yard today?

Man, this game was more of a hilassacre than I originally thought.

He's doin' his Joe Morgan imitation

Watch out for Pennington. I predicted 13-17 HRs for the guy this year. The ball really flies off his bat when he gets solid contact.

Pennington should be easy to watch out for seeing as how I am taller than he is.
Oh well,

Time to read Dave Cameron’s recap.

I don't quite see a point in living anymore

It’s been real ya’ll

Griffey needs to go on the DL and only get reactivated if he loses 20 pounds.
He needs to give up his plate appearances for the Griffey challenge.
I don't think any amount of weight loss is going to help at this point.

I’d rather he come back as an obese fat load so fans have mixed feelings about rooting for him.

Liposuction on Griffey and we might be on to something.
Or lose 10 years.
I doubt he'll be better when he's 50
Will everyone please shut the hell up about Griffey

At this rate everyone on this team should fucking retire. At least Griffey almost gave it a ride there at the end. And he’s not Rob fucking Johnson. He’s got that going for him.

No, only Griffey and Sweeney should retire.
And Rob Johnson.
What I'm saying is if everyone is so concerned at the lack of hitting, please get pissed at EVERYONE in the lineup, not just Griffey.

Except for Guti.

But I don't expect everyone else to be above average hitters, and the ones I do expect to be above average have a track record of being good.

Griffey’s only role on this team is to hit, and there’s little evidence that he’s good at it anymore.

Most of the Mariners have spent time in the last decade not being a below-replacement level player.

Griffey, not so much. He’s had one good season since 2000, and everything else is varying levels of injured or garbage.

The only reason he has a MLB job in 2001 is he’s ZOMG JUNIOR, instead of Carl Everett.

Er, strike 2001 for 2010, and "below".

Is he the worst problem on the team? No.They are all playing badly right now, save Felix and Guti. But I think Ichiro, Figgins and others are tons more likely to bounce back a lot as opposed to Junior, since they aren’t 40 and fighting through a decade of injury.

2003 and 2005 say hi.
They say hi from 7 and 5 years of injury plagued career ago, respectively
Well, yes.

Griffey is not good anymore. We know this. But the point is he’s had more than one good season since 2000.

Fangraphs has 2003 and 2005 as seasons over +1.0 WAR, and Smith’s WAR database has every season in that span except 2002 valued at over +1.

Alright, but he only played in 53 games in 2003.

Not exactly an adequate yearly sample.

I wasn't defending him; I was pointing out inadequacies in coward's evaluation.

I mean, it’s one thing to say “He was injured and would have easily outperformed that level” (and it’s probably true), but the truth is he didn’t and the injury affects our idea.

But then we have Rob fucking Johnson on this team, who can’t even produce 1 WAR in a whole season. The evaluation has to be taken in context. Is Griffey worth 2 million this season? Well, he’d need to be worth 0.5 WAR to hit that…so, probably not, but it’s believable seeing as his .230 BABIP last year contributed to 0.3 WAR (only 0.2 off his necessary production to match his paycheck).

Paying full value for a half a win player is bad

Because there are so many hitters capable of matching that available for the league minimum. He’d need to do better than that to justify the contract, and he won’t. Because he hasn’t for many, many years and is only going to get worse with age.

"I wasn't defending him."

What part of this statement do you not understand?

I don’t actually buy into the “In Z We Trust” mantra here and at USSM. Griffey signing, Sweeney’s continued presence, passing (albeit successfully) Langerhans through waivers, Rob Johnson…the roster construction in total is not something I like.

But like E-Lizz, who launched this sub thread, I just can’t stand the Griffey hate when taken along with the rest of the roster.

Griffey is annoying because he's one of the team's three worst hitters

and he’s slotted into a position where he is incredibly replaceable.

I'm quoting myself via USSM:

The Fangraphs leaderboard for designated hitters has Junior with a .347 wOBA over the last three calendar years, which is quite literally a league average DH when sampled over 500 PA’s.

He’s due for some regression. Will he be great? No. But he is not this team’s biggest problem on offense.

A three year average with all 3 years equally weighted is VERY misleading.

You’re discussing a 40 year old player who, as was pointed out, is sliding very badly downhill each year.

The reason Griffey’s BABIP sucks is the same reason Richie Sexson’s BABIP sucked: they both can’t hit any more.

The other problem is Griffey’s contribution is ALL with a bat. Wilson can’t hit, but he can field. Ditto Lopez and so on.

I was just responding to your comment that Griffey needs to be worth 0.5 WAR to be worth his contract
There's a few dozen better investments we could make.
I am not picking on you, but people need to realize that a bell curve distribution is not the same as the straight line that straight up Win Value at fangraphs suggests

The closer you are to replacement level, the less valuable your WAR is, and the farther away from it you are, the more valuable.

Yup.

0-0.5 WAR players are figuratively a dime a dozen. A lot of random AAA players could come in and give .5 WAR over a full season. Hell, Princess Willie could be a replacement-level 2B over a year.

"Hey, this argument didn't fly on one site, let's try it on another!"
It's sort of hard to mistake LL for the Times or PI comments section.
Hey, the conversations were going on simultaneously!

It’s almost like I was having a discussion with different people about the same topic! Crazy talk!

Understood.

Talent is in a bell curve, but payroll increases at a fairly linear rate once you hit league average.

"He’s had one good season since 2000, and everything else is varying levels of injured or garbage."

53 games seems to count in the “injured” pile.

Griffey has a track record of suck.
Well, that sucked.

I’m gonna go eat junk food as a form of self-mutilation. How about you guys?

I'm eating easy mac and studying for a test.

Fun.

I was so excited to watch Baseball and study

My first go at it was on Friday. I got halfway through the chapter and ended up spending more time with bourbon than my book.

I don't even try. I just rearrange my day around the baseball games.

That’s why I’m writing an assignment for my reporting class at 11 PM.

I hate leads.

Gonna go beat Duchscherer myself in MLB 10 The Show.
I hope you put Rob Johnson on the lowest minor league team.

Or deleted him.

He is somewhere in Double A. I use Josh Bard.
Depending on the algorithm the computer uses for evaluating trades, you might be able to deal him for some interesting pieces.
I just trade him to the Royals for a rookie league player.
Do they end up starting him?
They rated him pretty high and depends on what the AI does.

He starts out 20/80, but has 50/80 potential which is way too generous.

Goddamn fuck this team.
How was that play by Bradley not an error?
It was, according to the MLB boxscore.
So shouldn't some of the runs been unearned?

I need to check the box score elsewhere, I guess.

I'm pretty sure those runs would have scored even if Bradley fielded it cleanly.
Two runs were pretty much scoring on that single.

The only base that was given up on the error was allowing the batter to get to second.

I just wanted to blame someone.
Blame Rob Johnson.
Maybe only the runs that would have come after the error would have been unearned.
That's how I understood it.
Depends.

There was no out to be made there, so if the next hit was a single or a double it’s probably an unearned run. If it’s a triple or a home run, it’s earned (he would have been at first regardless).

Or some such bullocks.

If he had advanced to third and scored on a sac fly

then the run would have been unearned, I believe.

The error would have had to have made a meaningful contribution to the run scoring.

So it seems my theory was confirmed.

Don Bluth movies—more entertaining than Mariners games.

FUCK YOU, ROBERT JOHNSON.

You son of a shunned nun. You don’t belong in Seattle… hell, you don’t belong on the Clinton fucking Lumberkings.

Inform Z. And Wak. And the whole fucking organization.

So tired of it.

So I was in class.

How did Rob fuck this one up?

Dropped a strikeout, leading to Gabe Gross's two-run single+.
He did actually block a small handful of pitches, though.

I was surprised and vaguely excited.

Rob is our scapegoat for the game.

We were shutout and we’re ticked off that we don’t have an offense.

I'm still going with Scrappy
Rob is terrible.

I don’t know if he’s exactly a scapegoat. But absolutely everything bad that can and has happened is Rob Johnson’s fault.

On the bright side

Joe Mauer seems to be a nice guy.

Sure, we lost today...but today ruled!

People I met today (in order):

1. Howie Lincoln (I know, I know..)
2. Gov. Gregoire
3. Mayor McGinn
4. Jack Wilson
5. Randy Johnson
6. Edgar Martinez
7. Dan Wilson
8. Jay Buhner
9. Red
10. Red’s girlfriend (fiance? wife?)

So that made today AWESOME! Best home opener EVER!

1. Opening ceremony was the high point of the day.

2. The home plate umpires’ lil’ Michael Jackson strike dance was really, really annoying.
3. This game made me sad.

At least the bullpen helmet is back!

I'm sure that won't last long.
Lame
Why the hell was this rec'd
I don't know, but run with it
You logged in at 1 in the am to state the obvious?
Kotchman's play at first made the number 9 play of the day on Sportscenter, not too shabby.
Number 9??

Lame. That was a fantastic freaking play.

It was #9 for all the plays, (all sport)

It was webgem #2 also, I believe.

Thats a bit better.

I did see that Crawford play. Ridiculous.

Everyone needs to calm the fuck down

It’s the second week of baseball and the M’s first home game. Give them a break. Last year we started off hot and cooled down; perhaps this year we’re going for the opposite effect. If you guys were actual Mariners fans, you wouldn’t be assholes to all the players. Come on, at least give them a month before you start with this nonsense.

I don't think you understand how game threads work.
Oh no, I realize everyone's trying to be funny,

but it gets to a point where it’s just rude and pointless. I doubt the M’s would look at this thread and be thankful for their “fans.”

Grown men getting paid to play baseball shouldn't be wasting time on the internet anyways.

But if they read this, I’m sure they think it’s hilariously retarded.

If people suck, we don't want them on the team anymore, the more people who suck you have on your team the less likely you are to win

Therefore, seeing people who suck remain on this team makes people angry, because we want to win. Those are the people who really get piled on (Griffey, Sweeney) and I don’t think it would be a bad thing to have that displeasure communicated to the people who run the team. If more people did it, one or both of them might not even be here right now.

Other times there are just frustrating moments in a game where people need to vent over a play. And sweet holy hell this team has been frustrating so far.

Personally I'm mad because the team is willfully not putting their best players on the field, and for an obsessive diehard fan, it is a frustrating helpless situation

When we lose in painful fashion, people tend to focus their frustrations on our worst players. I love Ken Griffey Jr., but he’s been beyond finished for some time now, and the nostalgia of him being in back Seattle wore off sometime back in 2007. I would hope he would retire with some dignity before it’s too late. Ken Griffey Jr. should not be remembered to a generation of fans as someone who should be booed when he comes to the plate, he shouldn’t be remembered as the guy who is literally the worst player in baseball.

Accusing us of not being "actual Mariners fans" is a very, very poor idea.
I just don't see how saying "fuck this M's player" or "fuck that M's player" constitutes one being a Mariners fan

Why don’t we just stick to fuck the Angels and call it good? Oh and IT’S ONLY THE SECOND WEEK.

Because the Mariners make us mad sometimes
And Griffey sucks
Because we support an organization and the team they put on the field to play baseball.

We want the Mariners to win. Certain players are not good at baseball, and therefore do not help the Mariners win.

And by “certain players”, I mean Rob fucking Johnson. And Mike Sweeney, but he’s such a swell guy that we don’t hate him—just his presence on the team.

I don't think you understand quite how fandom works
The only player I seriously feel this way about is Rob Fucking Johnson.

And thats is totally fucking justified.
Get off it.

Can we please be a bit more civil?
To Rob? No.

To other posters? Ya, I know. I’m really pissed off right now.

Because we care

If we didn’t care the team wouldn’t piss us off

So here is the thing.

I have had season tickets for longer than you have known how to not shit your pants. Get to know the people here before you start shouting all high and mighty at us.

Okay, I'm not saying Rob's brilliant,

but would you rather have Moore step in? Because that didn’t work out too well last week either. And if everyone weren’t so obsessed with the Kid then the M’s wouldn’t have brought him back in the first place. It isn’t our fault that most M’s fans are still living in the 90s. Sure, we don’t have a perfect team, but no one does. We need to support the players we do have because treating them like shit isn’t going to help them play better.

It's going to make them play neither better nor worse

I still don’t think you quite understand how fandom works. When you care about a team and they do something bad, it’s upsetting. When you get upset, you say things you may or may not mean. When you say things you may or may not mean, they tend to come out angrily.

Thus, fuck Rob Johnson

Also, we aren't treating them like shit.

We are venting about them. They do not experience this in person.

Wait, so just because you don't have the opportunity to say this to their face it doesn't count as badmouthing?

Are you honestly saying everyone that types “fuck Rob Johnson” on fandom wouldn’t say it to Rob’s face or scream it at home games? I find that hard to believe.

Well I boo Rob Johnson everytime I go to the park
I do the exact opposite!
Believe whatever you want to.

I cheer for them at games.

I openly boo Rob Johnson.

I openly turn to other fans and insist that Rob Johnson really sucks at his job. But when Rob does something right—like, I dunno, gets an XBH—I cheer. Why? Not because of Rob Johnson, but because it’s helping the Mariners.

I want the Mariners to do well, and by extension I want Johnson to do well. But I think the Mariners would do better with an alternative to Rob Johnson.

Why would we want our own team to be unsuccessful (Strasburg aside)?

that’s the whole point. When you care, you get upset. When you say upset you say irrational things

"would you rather have Moore step in?"

500% YES!!!!!!!
I have no idea what the fuck the CI was about but his defense is so much better its not even funny. And he’s a freakin rookie people, the hitting will come around.

We have a statistically insignificant small sample size with Adam Moore.

We have 3/4 of a season of Johnson blocking a clearly superior catcher in Johjima. And sucking at it. He can’t catch, he can’t hit (even if his .269 wOBA regresses toward league average, this tends to stabilize around 500 plate appearances. He’d have to hit .370—better than Ichiro!—over his next 200 PA’s to be league average).

Good God I’d rather have Adam Moore.

Catchers who are league average hitters are 3.5 WAR players
Johnson is not league average, though.

Nowhere close.

Yes, that's correct
Which was sort of the point.

“Would you rather have Adam Moore?” was the question, with an appeal to his ridiculously small sample size of the last week. The answer here is “Yes, and here’s why: look, Johnson sort of sucks.”

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