Throwing a 72 mph curveball after a 72 mph curveball is incredibly risky. Not quite as risky as a 88 mph fastball on the inside corner, but still risky.
I wonder how pitchers feel when Rob Johnson comes out to the mound to assure them, only to later find out Rob Johnson isn't capable of catching a baseball.
Sean White is magical. The way his pitches come up to the plate spin so that it creates one of those swirly hypnosis thingies. The batter is lulled into swinging at it and not hitting a home run.
Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).
My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.
No, but regression back to the mean will be fucking sweet.
If things go like they are, that should happen right about the time Cliff Lee comes back, which means Cliff Lee will get major credit for helping turn the team around…. etc.
Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).
My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.
Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).
My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.
Getting owned by shittastic Quad-A right handers because we had a hacktastic team of mostly righties was much worse.
MUCH worse.
This is just frustrating because the guys we know can hit good aren’t, aside from Franklin, and it’s not like the rest of the team is good enough to carry us.
Will everyone please shut the hell up about Griffey
At this rate everyone on this team should fucking retire. At least Griffey almost gave it a ride there at the end. And he’s not Rob fucking Johnson. He’s got that going for him.
Is he the worst problem on the team? No.They are all playing badly right now, save Felix and Guti. But I think Ichiro, Figgins and others are tons more likely to bounce back a lot as opposed to Junior, since they aren’t 40 and fighting through a decade of injury.
I wasn't defending him; I was pointing out inadequacies in coward's evaluation.
I mean, it’s one thing to say “He was injured and would have easily outperformed that level” (and it’s probably true), but the truth is he didn’t and the injury affects our idea.
But then we have Rob fucking Johnson on this team, who can’t even produce 1 WAR in a whole season. The evaluation has to be taken in context. Is Griffey worth 2 million this season? Well, he’d need to be worth 0.5 WAR to hit that…so, probably not, but it’s believable seeing as his .230 BABIP last year contributed to 0.3 WAR (only 0.2 off his necessary production to match his paycheck).
Because there are so many hitters capable of matching that available for the league minimum. He’d need to do better than that to justify the contract, and he won’t. Because he hasn’t for many, many years and is only going to get worse with age.
What part of this statement do you not understand?
I don’t actually buy into the “In Z We Trust” mantra here and at USSM. Griffey signing, Sweeney’s continued presence, passing (albeit successfully) Langerhans through waivers, Rob Johnson…the roster construction in total is not something I like.
But like E-Lizz, who launched this sub thread, I just can’t stand the Griffey hate when taken along with the rest of the roster.
The Fangraphs leaderboard for designated hitters has Junior with a .347 wOBA over the last three calendar years, which is quite literally a league average DH when sampled over 500 PA’s.
He’s due for some regression. Will he be great? No. But he is not this team’s biggest problem on offense.
I am not picking on you, but people need to realize that a bell curve distribution is not the same as the straight line that straight up Win Value at fangraphs suggests
The closer you are to replacement level, the less valuable your WAR is, and the farther away from it you are, the more valuable.
0-0.5 WAR players are figuratively a dime a dozen. A lot of random AAA players could come in and give .5 WAR over a full season. Hell, Princess Willie could be a replacement-level 2B over a year.
There was no out to be made there, so if the next hit was a single or a double it’s probably an unearned run. If it’s a triple or a home run, it’s earned (he would have been at first regardless).
1. Howie Lincoln (I know, I know..)
2. Gov. Gregoire
3. Mayor McGinn
4. Jack Wilson
5. Randy Johnson
6. Edgar Martinez
7. Dan Wilson
8. Jay Buhner
9. Red
10. Red’s girlfriend (fiance? wife?)
So that made today AWESOME! Best home opener EVER!
It’s the second week of baseball and the M’s first home game. Give them a break. Last year we started off hot and cooled down; perhaps this year we’re going for the opposite effect. If you guys were actual Mariners fans, you wouldn’t be assholes to all the players. Come on, at least give them a month before you start with this nonsense.
If people suck, we don't want them on the team anymore, the more people who suck you have on your team the less likely you are to win
Therefore, seeing people who suck remain on this team makes people angry, because we want to win. Those are the people who really get piled on (Griffey, Sweeney) and I don’t think it would be a bad thing to have that displeasure communicated to the people who run the team. If more people did it, one or both of them might not even be here right now.
Other times there are just frustrating moments in a game where people need to vent over a play. And sweet holy hell this team has been frustrating so far.
Personally I'm mad because the team is willfully not putting their best players on the field, and for an obsessive diehard fan, it is a frustrating helpless situation
When we lose in painful fashion, people tend to focus their frustrations on our worst players. I love Ken Griffey Jr., but he’s been beyond finished for some time now, and the nostalgia of him being in back Seattle wore off sometime back in 2007. I would hope he would retire with some dignity before it’s too late. Ken Griffey Jr. should not be remembered to a generation of fans as someone who should be booed when he comes to the plate, he shouldn’t be remembered as the guy who is literally the worst player in baseball.
Because we support an organization and the team they put on the field to play baseball.
We want the Mariners to win. Certain players are not good at baseball, and therefore do not help the Mariners win.
And by “certain players”, I mean Rob fucking Johnson. And Mike Sweeney, but he’s such a swell guy that we don’t hate him—just his presence on the team.
I have had season tickets for longer than you have known how to not shit your pants. Get to know the people here before you start shouting all high and mighty at us.
but would you rather have Moore step in? Because that didn’t work out too well last week either. And if everyone weren’t so obsessed with the Kid then the M’s wouldn’t have brought him back in the first place. It isn’t our fault that most M’s fans are still living in the 90s. Sure, we don’t have a perfect team, but no one does. We need to support the players we do have because treating them like shit isn’t going to help them play better.
It's going to make them play neither better nor worse
I still don’t think you quite understand how fandom works. When you care about a team and they do something bad, it’s upsetting. When you get upset, you say things you may or may not mean. When you say things you may or may not mean, they tend to come out angrily.
Wait, so just because you don't have the opportunity to say this to their face it doesn't count as badmouthing?
Are you honestly saying everyone that types “fuck Rob Johnson” on fandom wouldn’t say it to Rob’s face or scream it at home games? I find that hard to believe.
I openly turn to other fans and insist that Rob Johnson really sucks at his job. But when Rob does something right—like, I dunno, gets an XBH—I cheer. Why? Not because of Rob Johnson, but because it’s helping the Mariners.
I want the Mariners to do well, and by extension I want Johnson to do well. But I think the Mariners would do better with an alternative to Rob Johnson.
500% YES!!!!!!!
I have no idea what the fuck the CI was about but his defense is so much better its not even funny. And he’s a freakin rookie people, the hitting will come around.
We have a statistically insignificant small sample size with Adam Moore.
We have 3/4 of a season of Johnson blocking a clearly superior catcher in Johjima. And sucking at it. He can’t catch, he can’t hit (even if his .269 wOBA regresses toward league average, this tends to stabilize around 500 plate appearances. He’d have to hit .370—better than Ichiro!—over his next 200 PA’s to be league average).
“Would you rather have Adam Moore?” was the question, with an appeal to his ridiculously small sample size of the last week. The answer here is “Yes, and here’s why: look, Johnson sort of sucks.”
Seriously, this is stupud.
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
Gooooooo me
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
This sure is a long commercial break
BRKLN M'S - April 12, 2010
Yeah, not like we missed anything though
Not like we’d ever miss anything if MLB.TV always skipped over our half of the inning.
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
1)
Dammit.
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
4) No hitter! Yeah!
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
end yourself.
<3
PShwa - April 12, 2010
YOU JINXED IT
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
I'M SORRY
THIS IS ALL MY FAULT
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
You owe Hyphen a beer.
Bastard.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Nicely done Jinx.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
WHOA AN AUTO THREAD
Corco - April 12, 2010
Fuck
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Fuck.
harkening - April 12, 2010
WELL FUCK
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Is it just me...
or is this starting to feel like 2008 again?
basebliman - April 12, 2010
Go away
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Just you.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
I hope so, I really do
I’m just a fan who gets frustrated by not scoring runs. Duchsherer is good, but not this good.
basebliman - April 12, 2010
FUCKBALLS
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
No-hitter: gone.
harkening - April 12, 2010
There goes the No-no
cmccrack206 - April 12, 2010
Yeah, we're going to lose this game by getting shut out
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
GOD
Corco - April 12, 2010
Crap.
zeeehjee - April 12, 2010
Wow
Nice meatball there Hyphen. WTF
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
PENNINGTON YOU DICK
Alto - April 12, 2010
Am I the only one who hates Cliff Pennington with a flaming passion?
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
Cliff Pennington?
Really?
seattlebruin - April 12, 2010
Fucking WoW RRS.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Why did he do that on an 0-2 count?
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
Where the fuck is his bendy thing is my question
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
Rob Johnson doesn't believe in bendy things.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
I'm going to assume RR-S called that one.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
FUCK ROB JOHNSON
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
This is annoying.
ThundaPC - April 12, 2010
Cliff Lee returning will help this team score runs won't it..?
Kaorikaze - April 12, 2010
Sure
seattlebruin - April 12, 2010
0-2 HR to Cliff fucking Pennington.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
So the thread at 5 PM idea worked out really good
JBell523 - April 12, 2010
IF THERE'S ONE THING JEFF KNOWS IT'S HIS SHIT
Corco - April 12, 2010
Wow, thank you Dave Sims.
While you’re at it, mention a few other things that the A’s are doing bad at.
Matt Erickson - April 12, 2010
Ughhhh.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Well fuck.
Benne - April 12, 2010
I hate feeling like being down 2-0 is insurmountable
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
I'd love to not be negative, but whatever
It’s becoming just a LITTLE hard.
OceanBird - April 12, 2010
Okay I love you RRS but you really need to get your shit together.
Benne - April 12, 2010
Aren't the Mariners supposed to win on occasion?
Corco - April 12, 2010
My expectations are Astros level now.
Except Felix days.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
So, really: Astros level.
They win 1 in every 5, too.
harkening - April 12, 2010
About 52% of the time according to various projection systems.
harkening - April 12, 2010
WOW
Nasty Pitch there Hyphen
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
oh HI
thanks for throwing that to Pennington.
PShwa - April 12, 2010
Where was that on the 0-2 to Pennington?
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
0-1
Matt Erickson - April 12, 2010
No
0-2
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
No, 0-1
RRS threw that curve to make it 0-2. He threw it when the count was 0-1.
Matt Erickson - April 12, 2010
facepalm.
That has nothing to do with the question.
PShwa - April 12, 2010
Yes it does.
Throwing a 72 mph curveball after a 72 mph curveball is incredibly risky. Not quite as risky as a 88 mph fastball on the inside corner, but still risky.
Matt Erickson - April 12, 2010
It's called 'the dirt'.
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
It was an 0-2 count when he hit the homerun
Which is what he’s asking about I think. It was a fastball in the upper right corner of the zone.
OlSalty - April 12, 2010
GOD
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
FUCK
PShwa - April 12, 2010
0-2
PShwa - April 12, 2010
Do more of that!
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
Woo!
A K!
harkening - April 12, 2010
RYANK
Corco - April 12, 2010
Only 71 Pitches
Through 6. Not bad really.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
4 walks though. . .
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
And 1 K
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
In other news... my other favorite team has just given up 11 runs to the Padres
In one inning.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
That's really hard to do
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
Yeah.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
I could look it up, but I'm too lazy.
Who?
zeeehjee - April 12, 2010
Braves.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
The Padres offense can't be stopped. Like asking the wind not to blow.
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
Only 1 out!
Jaejo - April 12, 2010
I know. Horrific inning.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Don't worry, Jason Heyward will just hit three grand slams with one swing.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Actually... I wouldn't be surprised.
Dude’s a stud.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Wait:
Other favorite team? You can do that?
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Why of course!
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Only if they're in the NL and you never root for them over your main team
Go Dodgers! (I’ve been living in LA for 6.5 years or so)
bluemax - April 12, 2010
Braves are my team (I'm in Atlanta)
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
I adopted the Rockies as my "other team."
Benne - April 12, 2010
Did you adopt them
during that storm of god awful bandwagoning called “Rock-tober?”
PShwa - April 12, 2010
Since moving to Wyoming I've tried really really hard to become a Rockies fan
I just can’t do it for some reason- the team just isn’t likable
Corco - April 12, 2010
Do they even have any good hitters not named Adrian Gonzalez
I can’t remember
Alto - April 12, 2010
Kyle Blanks?
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
Spring Fair in Puyallup = Furry Convention?
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
Don't even joke about that.
I worked at the Marriott during a furry convention. And…well, ew.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Bahahahha
That’s funny
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
Tis a shame.
RRS looks like he could get through at least eight innings. Where for art thou offense?
ThundaPC - April 12, 2010
Ummmm another long commercial break?
BRKLN M'S - April 12, 2010
Should be back on.
zeeehjee - April 12, 2010
Here comes some runs!
… I hope…
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Hey guys, the top of the order is coming up!
Is it too much to ask for either Ichiro or Figgins to get on?
OceanBird - April 12, 2010
Yes. It is indeed too much.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
And steal three bases?
calim - April 12, 2010
Our lineup is more roundish
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Ichi-bomb! Please?
Alto - April 12, 2010
Or not!
Alto - April 12, 2010
Come on Chone!!!
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
If the Padres can have an 11 run inning, so can we.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
The Padres don't have Rob Johnson.
zeeehjee - April 12, 2010
Shit. You're right.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
We could have a 12!
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
Is anyone else's FSN Comcast feed
producing a totally crap picture? I haven’t heard the broadcasters mention it.
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
My click feed looks good
No mention of Comcast from the broadcasters
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
Cl!ck
Corco - April 12, 2010
Clear as day.
harkening - April 12, 2010
HD feed in Portland is having issues.
All other channels are fine.
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
I'm in Federal Way. No issue at all.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Mine was, so I turned the TV off
Especially noticeable with the text in their graphics
Jaejo - April 12, 2010
Chone.
Get. On. Base.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
DAMN IT FIGGY
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
No ONE is hitting the ball.
This shit is amazing.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Well minus Guti.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
GOOD GRAVY
Corco - April 12, 2010
Fuck Dale Scott!
basebliman - April 12, 2010
Ball four asshole.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
Aberdeen
I wonder if the South Dakota version is as pleasant as the Washington version.
zeeehjee - April 12, 2010
PITCHF/X disagrees with that call.
Benne - April 12, 2010
Poo balls.
Alto - April 12, 2010
I give up.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
As far as I can tell you gave up at 1-2.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Probably more accurate.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Wow
Douchwater has a 1-hitter through 6. This is fucking embarrassing.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Doucherer?
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
We are looking really bad offensively
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
No way
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
He knew that was a ball.
Took him like 20 seconds to ring him up.
Fuckmikereilly - April 12, 2010
Figgins thought it was a strike. He hesitated after turning away and just stood there waiting for the call.
harkening - April 12, 2010
This is terrible. Can someone PLEASE hit the ball?
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
This is getting awful.
HEY JACK CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE US AN OFFENSE THAT DOESN’T SUCK ON WHEELS BECAUSE WE’VE SEEN THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW AND IT’S REALLY GETTING ANNOYING.
Benne - April 12, 2010
My thoughts exactly...
You can play defense until the cows come home, but if you can’t score, you can’t win. Sick of this shit!
basebliman - April 12, 2010
This team is so fucking depressing
aussie_chop - April 12, 2010
A little league team
filled with 14 year old paraplegic swiss girls could produce more runs
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
I call bullshit.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
They would probably get a pity run.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
If they're not in their wheelchairs, TINY strike zone. Lots of walks.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Yeah, but they would have massive holes in their swings
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
only in a neutral runscoring environment
theboyirish - April 12, 2010
Can't believe there've only been 2 hits in this game.
ThundaPC - April 12, 2010
Thanks a lot
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
This 3 up, 3 down bullshit is depressing the fuck out of me.
Xux - April 12, 2010
Looks like our 1-2-3 hitters
did not take the hitters’ advantage from their first two trips to the plate
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
Ryan
Seriously, wtf dude. Throw strikes for God’s sake.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Sorry
Misspost
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
It's only April. I'm not worried yet.
That is all.
InSpokane - April 12, 2010
Don't bring your rationality into the game threads
you’ll upset people.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
This is frustrating though. We had a chance to get a runner in from third and we couldn't do it.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
That's just one time though.
The offense is being incredibly frustrating right now but this in all likelihood will not continue.
ChristopherA - April 12, 2010
I would be less worried if the offense would show some shred of competence. Like, real soon.
Benne - April 12, 2010
Fuck you Rob Johnson
I don’t care, I’m not amused
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
DID ROB JOHNSON JUST BLOCK A FUCKING BALL?
HOLY SHIT.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
I THINK I JUST SAW A PIG FLYING BY MY WINDOW.
Benne - April 12, 2010
Way to not fail Robby.
JAH - April 12, 2010
RRS is however making me pull out my hair.
JAH - April 12, 2010
What?
Johnson blocked that?
ThundaPC - April 12, 2010
Time for the hook.
Benne - April 12, 2010
RRS gets to 2-0 and just says fuck it I'm walking him
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Anybody up in the pen?
Benne - April 12, 2010
Man, when Ryan decides to walk someone
He doesn’t mess around
Malcontent1 - April 12, 2010
Oh dear this could be a bad inning.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Whoa, new scoreboard over the bullpen! It has colors!
harkening - April 12, 2010
Dear Hyphen,
Throw strikes. Sincerely, your fans.
P.S. Don’t throw balls.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Just got here, why is the picture so jaggy?
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
Because not even the producers want to watch this fucking team on offense right now
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
Are you in Portland?
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
Seattle-ish area on Verizon FIOS
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
Comcast looks terrible in Portland
Most people have said it looks fine
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
But, yeah, jagged here.
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
Hmm alright, I hope this isnt a consistent thing.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
Rosales
The goofiest mother fucker ever.
PShwa - April 12, 2010
Eric Byrnes esque?
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
Goofier.
Byrnes thinks he’s cool, while Rosales just looks like the lanky nerdy guy who got a wish granted to play pro baseball for a day.
PShwa - April 12, 2010
Fuck guys!
No one covers 3rd?
basebliman - April 12, 2010
It's Lopez, what do you expect?
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Shouldn't Jack be running to third on that play?
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
No, he covered 2nd
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Kotchman charges on the bunt, Figgins to 1st, Wilson to 2nd.
That leaves 3rd as the only base to cover.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Inexperienced 3B.
It hurts.
harkening - April 12, 2010
I'll chalk it up to growing pains for Lopez.
Benne - April 12, 2010
That had DP written all over it. Damn.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
As Roger Dorn would say
STRIKE THIS MOTHER FUCKER OUT.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Or "This guy" if it's on netowrk TV
basebliman - April 12, 2010
Because "guy" totally lines up with the lip motions of "mother fucker."
harkening - April 12, 2010
That'll work
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Yes.
More of this, Ryan.
JAH - April 12, 2010
That really is a pretty pitch
But where the fuck has it been?
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
No idea, but I agree with you
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
0-2 what is going to happen?
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
His last 0-2 ended badly
basebliman - April 12, 2010
PLEASE RRS.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Good pitch choice
Only problem is you’re throwing to Rob FUCKING Johnson
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
I HATE THIS MOTHERFUCKER
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
Why
DrunkAmerican - April 12, 2010
Because he's bad.
harkening - April 12, 2010
BECAUSE HE'S FUCKING TERRIBLE
WHAT THE FUCK, HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THIS
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
I knew he was bad. Just didn't know that that was the only reason you had to hate him.
DrunkAmerican - April 12, 2010
Seriously
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
I seriously didn't know.
DrunkAmerican - April 12, 2010
FUCK YOU ROB CATCH THE FUCKING BALL
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
RRS actually has pitched a decent game
I’d like to get a win for him
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Decent?
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
Only given up 2 runs
He’s not exactly getting lit up like Snell
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
F. I. P.
harkening - April 12, 2010
6 BB?
Say what you will about our anemic offense, but that is ugly.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Ok nevermind
I spoke too soon. I hate me.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
FUCK. ROB. JOHNSON
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
DAMMIT ROB!
Slurvey - April 12, 2010
Way to hang on Robo Rob
basebliman - April 12, 2010
GODDAMIT ROB!
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
FUCK FUCK FUCK
ROB FUCKING JOHNSON
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
CATCH THE BALL YOU POINTLESS FUCK
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
LEARN TO FUCKING CATCH!
Slurvey - April 12, 2010
Rob Fucking Johnson.
Alto - April 12, 2010
Robo Rob
has a glove made of steel
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
God damnit Rob.
joof - April 12, 2010
Rob fucking Johnson
cmccrack206 - April 12, 2010
I HATE ROB JOHNSON
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
That is all.
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
Our pitchers are masochists. They love fucking Rob Johnson.
stupidquestions - April 12, 2010
This could read two ways, I just found out.
stupidquestions - April 12, 2010
You don't fool me
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Might want to rephrase that
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Wish we had an editing function
stupidquestions - April 12, 2010
I don't.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
They just love Rob Johnson fucking them
cmccrack206 - April 12, 2010
Oh dear.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
ROB JOHNSON.
FUCK YOU.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
basebliman - April 12, 2010
FUCK YOU ROB
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Oops?
Jaejo - April 12, 2010
Oh my God.
I’m fucking speechless.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
ARGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Corco - April 12, 2010
I'm gonna go kill myself now.
harkening - April 12, 2010
THERE IS NO FLOOR
Corco - April 12, 2010
2-160
harkening - April 12, 2010
Oh Bradley.
ThundaPC - April 12, 2010
WELCOME TO SEATTLE
Corco - April 12, 2010
THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN A STRIKEOUT LONG AGO FUCK YOU ROB JOHNSON
Alto - April 12, 2010
I blame Rob
Floyd Gondoli - April 12, 2010
Remember when Hyphen struck him out, but Rob Johnson fucking dropped it
joof - April 12, 2010
When was this
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
I dunno; gonna have to be more specific.
harkening - April 12, 2010
WHEN RRS FUCKING STRUCK OUT GABE GROSS BUT ROB JOHNSON DROPPED THE FUCKING BALL!
Slurvey - April 12, 2010
I vaguely recall this occurance
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
NEEDS MORE CAPS!
harkening - April 12, 2010
WOW
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
FUCK YOU ROB JOHNSON YOU CUNTY PRICK BASTARD
WHO SUCKS ON SHIT FUCK ARGH
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
DFA NOW!!!!
aussie_chop - April 12, 2010
Thanks Rob. Thanks Bradley.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Both runs score either way
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Yeah but since when do we congratulate errors?
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Catcher dropped foul-tips that should have been strikeouts should be counted.
So everyone knows how shitty Johnson is.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
It's Rob Johnson, they'll go down as wild pitches or something.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
"Well, it hit him right in the fucking glove, but it's Rob Johnson. Hmmm. Must be a wild pitch."
joof - April 12, 2010
Run expectancy lost from Johnson's dropped third strike is probably something around .5
What a douche.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
SELL SELL SELL!
Slurvey - April 12, 2010
Upgraded defense?
basebliman - April 12, 2010
A couple of Raul-esque moments for Bradley.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
This can be easily resolved by making him a DH.
ThundaPC - April 12, 2010
No one wants Bradley hugging them
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
And less dead weight on the bench.
JAH - April 12, 2010
But then who would play left?
harkening - April 12, 2010
Langerhans or Saunders.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
And Byrnes.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
NOT A SERIOUS QUESTION!
harkening - April 12, 2010
Thats reaching for it on the sarcasm detector.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Byrnes or Saunders.
Slurvey - April 12, 2010
Rob Johnson's fault.
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
Bradley does not understand spin.
Which should be a prerequisite for playing left field. In T ball.
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
Oopsies
BRKLN M'S - April 12, 2010
Remember that one time when we were actually out of the inning but Rob Johnson fucked it up?
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
That's never happened.
JAH - April 12, 2010
Griffey:
5 run homer next inning. You just wait, you.
He’s the pick to click, after all.
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
Fuck that zombie*
We need that Jack Wilson to step up and take one for the hamstrings
*Bill Kreuger
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
Dave Sims calling out Rob
YES!
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Jack Z only cares about defense when it can be measured by UZR.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
I just got in to see Rob Johnson cost us 2 runs
That was absolutely hilarious. If we have to lose, I’m glad we lose in a way that completely validates my hatred for a player.
JLC - April 12, 2010
It should be 2-0 right now. This is BULLSHIT.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Correction
It should be 2-1. But yeah, I get what you’re saying
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Yeah, we would still end up shut out, but then we could lose by less.
ARock - April 12, 2010
I'm giving this another half-inning before I bail.
My new Netflix movies just arrived and I’m dying to check them out.
Benne - April 12, 2010
Wow
The more I watch the Mariners, the more I hate Rob fucking Johnson.
supershane - April 12, 2010
We need Rob Johnson gifs
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
We have them, just not sidebar'd
JLC - April 12, 2010
We just need less Rob Johnson.
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
Okay. Here's Johnson as a kid
Bearskin Rugburn - April 12, 2010
Oh, that is fucking cold.
Benne - April 12, 2010
I hope Torii Hunter came to his birthday.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
AW SHIT YEAH
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
This makes me happier than it should.
Am I bad person?
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
The real Rob Johnson would miss the candle
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
I used to like Robo Rob
But this is just ridiculous
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
I can't possibly fathom how
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
I hated Johjima
with a passion that’s almost holy. That’s why.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Why? He had a couple of the best catcher seasons in Mariners history.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
Because he couldn't call a game to save his life.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
How do you know this?
Benne - April 12, 2010
By watching the game.
Rob calls a better game. Or at least he did last year.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
FALSE!
harkening - April 12, 2010
You're kidding.
Do you not see him looking in the dugout most of the time?
w00tah - April 12, 2010
I hear he has a good cERA, too.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Rob Johnson doesn't call the game, he gets it form Wak.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Pitchers choose their pitches, and come up with a gameplan with the coaches before every game.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
Why?
harkening - April 12, 2010
You fool.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
I can't possibly fathom why
Are you Jarrod Washburn?
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
If so, fuck you.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
WE'RE STILL NOT SIGNING YOU BITCH
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
Possibly the best offensive catcher in M's history with a good throwing arm
What’s to hate?
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
Jap
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Fair enough
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
I hope we score exactly 3 runs
JLC - April 12, 2010
Loafie!
A hit! A hit!
harkening - April 12, 2010
as quickly as the gods smiled upon us
Junior will take it away.
Hancock.Brett - April 12, 2010
GUYS WE HAVE ANOTHER HIT
Alto - April 12, 2010
Rizzs sounded genuinely surprised that that fell in
calim - April 12, 2010
NOW HERE COMES GRIFFEY TO FUCK EVERYTHING UP
Benne - April 12, 2010
Time for a Griffbomb.
Fuckmikereilly - April 12, 2010
Here comes Griffey.
Gonna tie it at 2-2 or meekly K again.
Oh…
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
So, Jr. GIDP?
JAH - April 12, 2010
Almost, but no! Junior!
stupidquestions - April 12, 2010
Just about
basebliman - April 12, 2010
WAY TOO CLOSE
RETIRE
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Griffey!
Beat out a DP! Way to run, you fat old man!
harkening - April 12, 2010
OAKLAND STOP PLAYING DEFENSE WE NEED TO CATCH UP
Alto - April 12, 2010
I don't think they need to play defense at this point.
Fuckmikereilly - April 12, 2010
I hope we score exactly 3 runs, and then we load the bases for Rob Johnson and he strikes out on 3 pitches.
JLC - April 12, 2010
I want everyone to hate Rob Johnson.
Everyone.
JLC - April 12, 2010
Mission already accomplished.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
The entire Mariners organization begs to differ.
Fuckmikereilly - April 12, 2010
No, I even want casual fans to hate Rob Johnson.
I want Rob Johnson’s mom to hate Rob Johnson.
JLC - April 12, 2010
I have a feeling she already does
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
For me it's more numb
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
This would be great.
If everyone already didn’t hate him already.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Fogel
>:(
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
Griff was out if that throw was on target. That is some amazingly slow speed.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
40 years old? Hamstrings shot?
Fucking duh?
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
But he's really fast
in those Nike shoes. Ask his friend Torii
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
Ryan Braun agrees,
w00tah - April 12, 2010
BBradley!
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Milton has like a .250 OBP even with the 1-for-22
That’s awesome.
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
AA
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
Two runners!
BRKLN M'S - April 12, 2010
Kotchman GIDP?
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
That's my guess
moyerLIVES - April 12, 2010
Solid base hit right to an Oakland infielder
Alto - April 12, 2010
He tried so hard to make it happen
cmccrack206 - April 12, 2010
Slight OBP boost!
Alto - April 12, 2010
PINCH RUN!!!!
stredarts - April 12, 2010
Man, this team is sure playing like shit. Good thing it's still preseason cause Sweeney's on the bench and
OH FUCKING GOD IT’S APRIL 12 SELL SELL SELL
James F'n X - April 12, 2010
Come on boys, time for a rally.
Time for a what?
supershane - April 12, 2010
Need a Krotchshot here.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Do that again Kotch.
Except this time, fair.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Yay for long foul ball HRs
basebliman - April 12, 2010
Jesus Christ Kotch...
STRAIGHTER
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
He was born that way!
And their just eyes!
harkening - April 12, 2010
Fuck, that was really close to 3 runs.
JLC - April 12, 2010
Do that again, only the other side of the pole.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
That is too bad.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
I'll name my first born 'Casey', if he hits one out...
Well, that might upset the folks. First dog?
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
GROUNDBALL OF OUR DOOM
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
I smell a doily coming up.
Benne - April 12, 2010
I'd love a doily!
basebliman - April 12, 2010
Please please please please please
PRETTY FUCKING PLEASE can we drive in these two runners?
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Rob.
Johnson.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Oh
Yeah. Fuck.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Pathetic GB.
ROB JOHNSON TIME!
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Bradley JUUUST fast enough.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
Bradley looked like he was about to lower his shoulder too.
Floyd Gondoli - April 12, 2010
Albert Belle style
calim - April 12, 2010
I think he should have gone for the A-Rod special and kicked the glove.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
YES ROB JOHNSON AT THE PLATE
JLC - April 12, 2010
Here's where everyone falls in love with Rob momentarily
BRKLN M'S - April 12, 2010
Even if he did get a hit, he cost us 2 runs last half, so no Rob love.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
I'm so glad Rob Johnson is at bat right now
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
ROB YOU BETTER FUCKING REDEEM YOURSELF RIGHT HERE
Alto - April 12, 2010
Oh Christ!!
The Johnson’s back!!!!
supershane - April 12, 2010
Come on Rob, time to try your very best!
stupidquestions - April 12, 2010
This is just perfect
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
HIT HIM WITH THE BALL!
w00tah - April 12, 2010
PLEASE.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
God, what's Pat Borders up to.
JAH - April 12, 2010
Double secret back up catcher for the Toledo Mudhens
cmccrack206 - April 12, 2010
Then what is Rick Wilkins doing.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
DO HORRIBLY
YOU ARE COMPLETELY CAPABLE
JLC - April 12, 2010
SAHHHHHWWWWINNNNNNNNNNGGGGGG AND A MISS
JLC - April 12, 2010
Nice to have a quality lefty bat on the bench to pich hit here...
Oh yeah AAA
basebliman - April 12, 2010
This feels like one of those times where Rob Johnson hits an inesplicable double.
joof - April 12, 2010
No it doesn't
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
Is that like an inexplicable double?
harkening - April 12, 2010
Quite so.
joof - April 12, 2010
Please be right
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
I don't feel it.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
HEY BATTER BATTER HEY BATTER BATTER
SWWWWING BATTER BATTER
JLC - April 12, 2010
Why does it seem like Rob comes to the plate
every ninth time?
Hooligan - April 12, 2010
Density
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
Rob Johnson is a lucky twat
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
NOW STRIKE THE FUCK OUT FUCK HEAD!
Slurvey - April 12, 2010
Is this really happening?
Corco - April 12, 2010
Walks are good.
Walks are good!
supershane - April 12, 2010
OH C'MON THAT WAS STRIKE THREE, UMP
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT
JLC - April 12, 2010
Way to lean into it! I likey
BRKLN M'S - April 12, 2010
Shawn Kelley in the pen.
Benne - April 12, 2010
Rob Johnson and Jack WIlson?
Corco - April 12, 2010
Pinch-hit Tui for Wilson after Johnson walks please.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
Tui for Johnson would be a wiser offensive investment.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Defensive too, probably.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
That's true. If we had Langerhans a Tui PH then Langerhans PH would be pretty cool.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
WHY IS MIKE SWEENEY ON THIS TEAM?
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Ice cream pies>a real bench
stupidquestions - April 12, 2010
GOD
Corco - April 12, 2010
Oh my FUCKING god.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
There's a shocker.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
SHOCKING
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
THERE IS NO FLOOR
Corco - April 12, 2010
FUCK
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
That's the Rob Johnson we all know and...
well, y’know.
harkening - April 12, 2010
FUCK
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
Maybe we don't all know.
Because I do not have the required amount of affection for Rob Johnson to do that. Quite the opposite, in fact.
harkening - April 12, 2010
You could do it to him in surprise!
joof - April 12, 2010
EMBARRASSING K
WEAK GROUNDOUT CLOSE ENOUGH
JLC - April 12, 2010
That has to be the worst bottom of the order in the AL
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
Expected
basebliman - April 12, 2010
Gold star for effort
stupidquestions - April 12, 2010
I FUCKING HATE ROB JOHNSON MORE THAN I HATED ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING
Benne - April 12, 2010
THIS ALMOST MAKES ME MISS RENE RIVERA
Corco - April 12, 2010
Jesus Christ. I can't even take any more of this.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Padres are winning 14-0.
Why do we suck so fucking much?
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Because the baseball gods hate us
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
ONE LESS RUN THEN WE'VE SCORED
ALL SEASON
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
Wrong
calim - April 12, 2010
Thanks, because that wasn't hyperbole
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
Well, it's reasonably close
So I wasn’t sure
calim - April 12, 2010
It's 21 entering today
Which means, hey, 21!
cwel87 - April 12, 2010
And this is why they're our hated rivals!
harkening - April 12, 2010
The Royals are better than us
aussie_chop - April 12, 2010
The Rainiers are better than us
basebliman - April 12, 2010
Next LL fundraiser:
Hiring a professional assassin to rub out Rob Johnson.
JAH - April 12, 2010
$10
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Tanya Harding?
Jaejo - April 12, 2010
*Tonya
Jaejo - April 12, 2010
We really don't even need to go that far.
He’s so brittle, we just need someone to hit him with a pillow and then he’ll break 2 bones and need another hip replacement.
supershane - April 12, 2010
BRING UP BARD
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Fiddlesticks!
BRKLN M'S - April 12, 2010
Justice, thy name is Rob Johnson
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
MORE BOOS I WANT TO HEAR MORE BOOS WHEN ROB JOHNSON FAILS
JLC - April 12, 2010
ROB JOHNSON BOOS ARE MY RAISON D'ETRE
JLC - April 12, 2010
We're going to go through a hot stretch at some point.
There are 162 games in a season. We’ve played about 8.
calim - April 12, 2010
Where the fuck is our offense?
Seriously. D is fine and all that but really?
We need to bring the THUNDER back to Seattle.
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
I don't think they'd be any better at hitting than our current line up.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
True, true
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
Great word choice.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
Find some insipration.
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
FREE JOSH BARD
w00tah - April 12, 2010
This game is making me nauseous.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
God I hate Rob Johnson
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
This game has successfully converted me to hating Rob Johnson
ARock - April 12, 2010
Then we can list this game as a small victory!
Welcome to enlightenment.
harkening - April 12, 2010
What took you so long?
I’m genuinely curious.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
You didn't already?
You must have the patience of a saint.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
I'm with you.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Quick someone clone Joe Mauer
Alto - April 12, 2010
Or Matt Wieters!
Slurvey - April 12, 2010
Harper's going to the Nats.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Not if the Astros can help it
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
Harper is getting drafted this season.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
I wonder what the threshold has been set at internally
Below which this team will no longer play Rob Johnson. I’m thinking like a solid .125 BA with 2-3 passed balls/game.
moyerLIVES - April 12, 2010
*Wild Pitches
Johnson doesn’t give up passed balls, silly.
joof - April 12, 2010
That was a strike.
Slurvey - April 12, 2010
Shawn Kelley!
Woo, AAA pitching!
harkening - April 12, 2010
So you guys remember when we had this on guy named Varitek and we traded him away?
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Wasn't that neat?
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
It's a shame he passed on
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
for Heathcliffe Slocumb!
I forget, which one is still playing???
One won lost won - April 12, 2010
Can I link youtube videos on here?
It is baseball related.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
No.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Ok well it had to do with Chan Ho Park and Diarrhea as an explanation as to why he pitched so poorly on opening day.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
At least he was honest.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Well, since Kelley is throwing!
JLC - April 12, 2010
I dont know if I want to rec this.
It makes me offended and mad just watching it.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Now there's a Rob Johnson gif!
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
This gif completes the highlight reel of Rob Johnson's life.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Can someone kidnap Felix's dog or something and frame Rob Johnson?
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
That fucking changeup is nice.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
My girlfriend tells me that all the time
calim - April 12, 2010
Jesus Christ Barton... swing at SOMETHING.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
10 walks now!
bluemax - April 12, 2010
Yeah, like all those strikes the ump is calling balls!
What the hell!?
harkening - April 12, 2010
Remember when the Mariners were supposed to be annoying to other teams?
Looks like that backfired towards us.
OceanBird - April 12, 2010
I hope Rob Johnson
… Pulls an Adrian Beltre. Y’know, with the penis and such.
Stupid cups.
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
Ummmm
BRKLN M'S - April 12, 2010
Oopsie dasies!
JLC - April 12, 2010
More!
moyerLIVES - April 12, 2010
It's spelt with two 'o's
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Well put good sir.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Pitch 5 and Pitch 8 to Barton are both strikes.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
I actually hate Daric Barton more than Rob Johnson.
supershane - April 12, 2010
WHAAAA?
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
I know it's blasphemous, but seriously, even his name makes me angry.
Who spells derek, daric?
supershane - April 12, 2010
Daric Barton's parents do.
ToddK - April 13, 2010
Tim Tschida, is that you?
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
So much for the generous strike zone this ump had been giving earlier
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
Where the hell was that, asshole?
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
An out!
harkening - April 12, 2010
Okay, I give up.
I’m going to watch a Don Bluth movie and drown my sorrows.
Benne - April 12, 2010
Ready for giant computers and no more humans behind the plate.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
We already have Rob Johnson back there
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Disk drives would have fewer passed balls.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
Oh shit
A real catcher is up to bat.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
UGH NOT KURT SUZUKI.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Jermaine Dye is a free agent, right?
joof - April 12, 2010
Yep.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Yes.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
I don't think he can play catcher.
lailaihei - April 12, 2010
Neither can our catcher, coincidentally.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
Neither can Rob Johnson.
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
Late.
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
It's a sentiment that deserves an echo.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
Just what we need, another DH
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Even if signed with us he'd suck
Let him sign with Oakland or someone else and hit 20 homers.
OceanBird - April 12, 2010
We don't have room for another DH.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Nice pitch
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Eat slider, assbag.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
Another nice pitch.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Suzuki looked silly on that second strike pitch.
joof - April 12, 2010
Kelley!
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
TAKE A SEAT KURT!
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
OKAY. NOW DOES ANYONE WANT TO FUCKING SCORE RUNS?
Does anyone even know what those are?
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Cool down.
Jack Wilson coming up.
It’s all good!
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
The things you let the other team have.
Because your mom said only sluts score runs.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
If we're going to produce
Now’s the time.
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
Time for Jack Wilson strikeouts!
Ichiro popups!
And Figgins failure!
Please, top of the lineup, do something, once…
OceanBird - April 12, 2010
This game sucks.
Why can’t we do what the almighty predicted and win 90 – 95 games like he said?
I’m a sad panda who is trapped in a box
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
You're a bento?
James F'n X - April 12, 2010
I have no clue as to what that is...
and with family in the room, I am not sure if I want to look
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
It's a Japanese lunch box.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Japanese pre-packed lunch box.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Ah. Then that probably describes what I said so yes.
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
Half-innings without Rob Johnson related incidents: 1
JLC - April 12, 2010
Well they just replayed some Rob Johnson fuck ups.
Not so free.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
PLATE TOUCHING. NEED TO TOUCH MAD PLATE
BRKLN M'S - April 12, 2010
Let's see how few pitches the top of the lineup can take while still going down in order
My guess: 6.
moyerLIVES - April 12, 2010
I'll take the under.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Going with 7.
And Jack just hit the first fucking pitch.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Jack Wilson: 2 pitches, right on target!
moyerLIVES - April 12, 2010
Oh, thought that was the first pitch.
Thank god it wasn’t.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
ESPN had us @ 58% chance to win this game.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Before the game?
bluemax - April 12, 2010
Yes. Before the game.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
SSS? Also, that means that you’ll still lose the game 42% of the time…
speckops - April 12, 2010
Please remember to use the subject line.
ThundaPC - April 12, 2010
Subject line, please.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Look, it's a Rob Johnson pussy montage.
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Oh yay. A game recap. Exactly what we want to see right now. Fuck you FSN
ErictheHawksFan - April 12, 2010
We've got the chance to be the best 1-2 in baseball history!
I hope!
Not great timing by FSN, I should say.
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
NOT ONLY DID HE DROP THE BALL, HE FUCKING JUMPED UP AND CELEBRATED.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
That was 100% my favorite part
JLC - April 12, 2010
I hope he tries to cut himself in the hotel bathroom after today
JLC - April 12, 2010
That's what I'm going to be doing, anyways.
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
WHAT?!
Already one out? You’re kidding me.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Did they even show it?
I wasn’t paying attention but I’m pretty sure they didn’t
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
They did.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Great, so we're going to get shut out in our home opener
Nice….
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
Nah. Mike Sweeney's good for the meaningless 9th inning RBI.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
True
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
This asshole better be the next A-Rod but a switch hitter.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
I HOPE ROB JOHNSON DIES FROM A PERFORATED COLON
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
I can arrange that
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Is there really a commercial going on right now?!
BRKLN M'S - April 12, 2010
FUCKING SHIT.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Gah!
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
DAMNIT! SO CLOSE!
joof - April 12, 2010
Ichiro!
Foul by an inch.
harkening - April 12, 2010
THE UNIVERSE HATES US
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
Sigh.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
All right gents let's win this baseball game
Corco - April 12, 2010
That was close
Good thing its spring training
beastwarking - April 12, 2010
This is setting up perfectly for the Rob Johnson special
JLC - April 12, 2010
Good stuff.
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
Fucking Wow.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
And another Out
Ichi-d’oh
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
Shitty popups woooo
Alto - April 12, 2010
Eric Byrnes Disease is contagious
Jaejo - April 12, 2010
Why the hell am I still watching?
Ugh.
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
For the 5 run 9th?
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
It feels like I'm watching a little league game.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
With each inning we don't score, I die a little inside.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
You'll be dead by May
calim - April 12, 2010
Unless Cliff Lee revives me.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
You're a lot dead, then.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
At least I'm getting paid to be here.
Cause this pretty painful to watch
Ryan Divish - April 12, 2010
Who's paying you?
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
Google.
calim - April 12, 2010
I feel for ya, Divish.
ThundaPC - April 12, 2010
Ugh, wrong "reply"
ThundaPC - April 12, 2010
The McClatchy Company, owner of The News Tribune of Tacoma.
harkening - April 12, 2010
I'd give the money back.
And go home.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
I wouldn't.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
ha
Roy Weaver Stuckey - April 12, 2010
pretty bad when even the local media needs a channel for venting
Gekko Mojo - April 12, 2010
Div can come vent here anytime he wants.
If he doesn’t mind the whole universe seeing it.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
Not much you can really say, is there?
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
Yeah, my Bill Bavasi comment from spring training pretty much sums up my willingness to say anything
Ryan Divish - April 12, 2010
I must have missed that one.
What was it? (off the record of course… hurr).
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
.
Here
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Technically, Divish's mother said that
JLC - April 12, 2010
Oh wow.
No, I bet that didn’t make work uncomfortable for a bit.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
90mph?
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
LOAFIE!
w00tah - April 12, 2010
I'm glad it seems slightly less suicidal over here than on USSM.
Jeff Nye - April 12, 2010
We all just want to put a hit on Rob Johnson.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Dropping that ball won't show up in the WE, will it?
Floyd Gondoli - April 12, 2010
It will in RRA
Rob’s Runs Allowed
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Nope
JLC - April 12, 2010
I really doubt Rob would still be around, even with the org's baffling infatuation with him,
if he played a quantifiable position.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
It's actually quite quantifiable
He plays catcher; He does not catch the ball.
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Does the FO not watch the games?
w00tah - April 12, 2010
its not ...
… are suicidal candidates have already committed the deed.
Gekko Mojo - April 12, 2010
We're more bloodthristy, though
JLC - April 12, 2010
Yesterday was much more suicidal.
I think the most volatile ones are dead already.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
Loafie!
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
New scoreboard is really green.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
I don't see any solar panels
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Like it
Now if only we’d replace our really tiny jumbotron.
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
But where would people advertise!?
harkening - April 12, 2010
On the screen
Enter the 21st Century Ms, junk the matrix board and go with the mega jumbtron like they have at Qwest.
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
Milton makes a catch!
skywaker9 - April 12, 2010
Anyone else think Sean White looks like a monkey?
supershane - April 12, 2010
He's white though.
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
...a bit.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
Hah!
I was just thinking that.
If he was better at baseball, I’d probably avoid such commentary. Alas, he is not.
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
He looks like a white dude to me.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
That was a strike.
More computers, less umpires.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
89mph?
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
God damn, I just saw the score
And we are a fucking minor league team
Scrupio - April 12, 2010
Had to step out for a little while
I see we still suck balls.
zeeehjee - April 12, 2010
I wonder how pitchers feel when Rob Johnson comes out to the mound to assure them, only to later find out Rob Johnson isn't capable of catching a baseball.
JLC - April 12, 2010
Third game I'm shutting off before completion and it's the first damn week of the season.
This is depressing
Rudy4three - April 12, 2010
Andrew fucking Bailey!?!?
C’mon it’s not even a save opportunity!
Slurvey - April 12, 2010
That's respect.
We’re contenders, remember?
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
Epic comeback time.
And by epic comeback I mean Mike Sweeney.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
Griffey:
5 run homer next inning. You just wait, you.
PICK TO CLICK, BABY
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
I predict a 3-run Griffbomb followed by Rob Johnson making the last out.
JLC - April 12, 2010
Sounds about right.
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
If only we were that good...
Scrupio - April 12, 2010
Geoff Baker was right.
Sean White is magical. The way his pitches come up to the plate spin so that it creates one of those swirly hypnosis thingies. The batter is lulled into swinging at it and not hitting a home run.
They then cluck like chickens back in the dugout.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
"Productive out"
I hate that phrase
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
What an oxymoron
Slurvey - April 12, 2010
COME ON BITCHES LOAD 'EM UP FOR A BRADLEY SLAM
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
Welp this one is over.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Oh yeah, Bailey is good
Forgot about that
JLC - April 12, 2010
Guti that wasn't sexy at all what the fuck
Alto - April 12, 2010
DOS MAS
Corco - April 12, 2010
An auspicious beginning.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
LETS HIT BACK TO BACK TO BACK TO BACK HOME RUNS AND BRAKE ANDREW BAILEY
Corco - April 12, 2010
BRAKE???
disc, or drum?
One won lost won - April 12, 2010
Compression
ToddK - April 13, 2010
That really wasn't a strike.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
Loafie going back to his 'take the first pitch regardless' mentality.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Way to be patient, Lopez.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
Griffey better not get out
Rob deserves the honor
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Well now a Griffey K is the most predictable outcome ever
JLC - April 12, 2010
More than a loss?
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Can we do worse? Is there nowhere to go but up?
Scrupio - April 12, 2010
Well, we could be 0-7, so, yeah, there's still room to devolve.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
we haven't set the all time loss record yet...
… it would look nice right next to our all time wins record, don’t you think?
Gekko Mojo - April 12, 2010
What's our team BABIP? .150?
Balls in play, hard or not, are right at people. Or robbed by non-Gutierrez centerfielders.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).
My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.
ChristopherA - April 12, 2010
No, but regression back to the mean will be fucking sweet.
If things go like they are, that should happen right about the time Cliff Lee comes back, which means Cliff Lee will get major credit for helping turn the team around…. etc.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).
My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.
ChristopherA - April 12, 2010
Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).
My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.
Corco - April 12, 2010
You're not Corco.
You’re ChristopherB
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
LEZZGO GRIFFDAWG
WOOF WOOF
Corco - April 12, 2010
RETIRE
YOU’VE HAD YOUR OVATION ON OPENING DAY, YOU ARE OF NO FURTHER USE
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
Please..
It looked weird to see him standing in uniform with The Big Unit, Edgar, Jay and Wilson during the pregame…
voltron27 - April 12, 2010
Griffey:
5 run HR on an 0-2 count.
BELIEVE BIG (that having nothing to do with Griffey’s waistline).
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
CMON MAN A WALK IS FINE HERE
Corco - April 12, 2010
DAMMIT GRIFFEY HIT ONE OUT!
Slurvey - April 12, 2010
He was trying
Floyd Gondoli - April 12, 2010
WOW WHAT A HUGE FOUL HIT
Alto - April 12, 2010
THAT WAS THE HOME RUN SWING
Corco - April 12, 2010
What a fucking embarrassing game.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
JUST GET A HIT YOU CAN'T DRIVE IN FOUR RUNS RIGHT HERE
Corco - April 12, 2010
Fuck a duck.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
or an elephant
Corco - April 12, 2010
Jumping off the cliff later, who wants to join
killer_ewok18 - April 12, 2010
Mike Sweeney might join you out of politeness if you asked him.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
HE'S GOING TO SWING AND MISS ON A BIG UGLY SWING
Corco - April 12, 2010
STOP BEING OLD GRIFFEY
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
IN Z WE TRUST!
Corco - April 12, 2010
Fuck you, Rob Johnson
Alto - April 12, 2010
Hey Ryan?
You can go home now.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
First shut-out of the year.
Held that one off as long as we could.
ThundaPC - April 12, 2010
GOD!
He hit that right on the screws =/
joof - April 12, 2010
AEIOG;AIOGHE;AOGFN;AKJDLBN;AEWJRF;IL ADVLJAHE;RLIUAEWIPOFJ; ALEJ
:(
Corco - April 12, 2010
Look on the bright side.
We have the best under performing team in the league.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
This is probably the worst Mariner offense I've seen.
Superlative.
zeeehjee - April 12, 2010
It isn't.
Getting owned by shittastic Quad-A right handers because we had a hacktastic team of mostly righties was much worse.
MUCH worse.
This is just frustrating because the guys we know can hit good aren’t, aside from Franklin, and it’s not like the rest of the team is good enough to carry us.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
This team exhausts me.
I hope we can get it together here in the next few games. It’s too early to press the panic button… but eventually it will be too LATE not too.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
I dunno; I have a hard time being harsh re: that Griffey AB.
He swung pretty well, connected, got around on a couple pitches…
He’s just old now…RETIRE.
harkening - April 12, 2010
I don't think the people taking part in the Griffey challenge would like that very much
Scrupio - April 12, 2010
Time to bring back a good old 2008 meme
There is no floor
Scrupio - April 12, 2010
Late
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/4/12/1417082/4-12-open-game-thread-part-2#34538442
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/4/12/1417082/4-12-open-game-thread-part-2#34536534
Corco - April 12, 2010
This makes me more depressed
Scrupio - April 12, 2010
WOOOOOOOOOOO!
ANOTHER LOSING STREAK STARTED!
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
Cant help on offense.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
We could always use the DH for Rob Johnson.
zeeehjee - April 12, 2010
Is he a good hitter?
Cause it doesn’t matter otherwise.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Yeah,
but it’s Cliff Lee.
Spider Jerusalem - April 12, 2010
Felix can hit.
zeeehjee - April 12, 2010
I think the Mariners should go without the DH on Felix day.
Completely serious.
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
Well these last two games have been tonsa fun...
BRKLN M'S - April 12, 2010
Cliff Pennington went yard today?
Man, this game was more of a hilassacre than I originally thought.
JLC - April 12, 2010
He's doin' his Joe Morgan imitation
Watch out for Pennington. I predicted 13-17 HRs for the guy this year. The ball really flies off his bat when he gets solid contact.
One won lost won - April 12, 2010
Pennington should be easy to watch out for seeing as how I am taller than he is.
JLC - April 12, 2010
Oh well,
Time to read Dave Cameron’s recap.
ThundaPC - April 12, 2010
I don't quite see a point in living anymore
It’s been real ya’ll
Stormton - April 12, 2010
Griffey needs to go on the DL and only get reactivated if he loses 20 pounds.
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
He needs to give up his plate appearances for the Griffey challenge.
Eyeball Kid - April 12, 2010
I don't think any amount of weight loss is going to help at this point.
I’d rather he come back as an obese fat load so fans have mixed feelings about rooting for him.
JLC - April 12, 2010
Liposuction on Griffey and we might be on to something.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Or lose 10 years.
urchman - April 12, 2010
I doubt he'll be better when he's 50
Scrupio - April 12, 2010
Will everyone please shut the hell up about Griffey
At this rate everyone on this team should fucking retire. At least Griffey almost gave it a ride there at the end. And he’s not Rob fucking Johnson. He’s got that going for him.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
No, only Griffey and Sweeney should retire.
JLC - April 12, 2010
And Rob Johnson.
supershane - April 12, 2010
What I'm saying is if everyone is so concerned at the lack of hitting, please get pissed at EVERYONE in the lineup, not just Griffey.
Except for Guti.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
But I don't expect everyone else to be above average hitters, and the ones I do expect to be above average have a track record of being good.
Griffey’s only role on this team is to hit, and there’s little evidence that he’s good at it anymore.
JLC - April 12, 2010
Most of the Mariners have spent time in the last decade not being a below-replacement level player.
Griffey, not so much. He’s had one good season since 2000, and everything else is varying levels of injured or garbage.
The only reason he has a MLB job in 2001 is he’s ZOMG JUNIOR, instead of Carl Everett.
eponymous_coward - April 12, 2010
Er, strike 2001 for 2010, and "below".
Is he the worst problem on the team? No.They are all playing badly right now, save Felix and Guti. But I think Ichiro, Figgins and others are tons more likely to bounce back a lot as opposed to Junior, since they aren’t 40 and fighting through a decade of injury.
eponymous_coward - April 12, 2010
2003 and 2005 say hi.
harkening - April 12, 2010
They say hi from 7 and 5 years of injury plagued career ago, respectively
OlSalty - April 12, 2010
Well, yes.
Griffey is not good anymore. We know this. But the point is he’s had more than one good season since 2000.
Fangraphs has 2003 and 2005 as seasons over +1.0 WAR, and Smith’s WAR database has every season in that span except 2002 valued at over +1.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Alright, but he only played in 53 games in 2003.
Not exactly an adequate yearly sample.
OlSalty - April 12, 2010
I wasn't defending him; I was pointing out inadequacies in coward's evaluation.
I mean, it’s one thing to say “He was injured and would have easily outperformed that level” (and it’s probably true), but the truth is he didn’t and the injury affects our idea.
But then we have Rob fucking Johnson on this team, who can’t even produce 1 WAR in a whole season. The evaluation has to be taken in context. Is Griffey worth 2 million this season? Well, he’d need to be worth 0.5 WAR to hit that…so, probably not, but it’s believable seeing as his .230 BABIP last year contributed to 0.3 WAR (only 0.2 off his necessary production to match his paycheck).
harkening - April 12, 2010
Paying full value for a half a win player is bad
Because there are so many hitters capable of matching that available for the league minimum. He’d need to do better than that to justify the contract, and he won’t. Because he hasn’t for many, many years and is only going to get worse with age.
OlSalty - April 12, 2010
"I wasn't defending him."
What part of this statement do you not understand?
I don’t actually buy into the “In Z We Trust” mantra here and at USSM. Griffey signing, Sweeney’s continued presence, passing (albeit successfully) Langerhans through waivers, Rob Johnson…the roster construction in total is not something I like.
But like E-Lizz, who launched this sub thread, I just can’t stand the Griffey hate when taken along with the rest of the roster.
harkening - April 12, 2010
Griffey is annoying because he's one of the team's three worst hitters
and he’s slotted into a position where he is incredibly replaceable.
BrianL - April 12, 2010
I'm quoting myself via USSM:
The Fangraphs leaderboard for designated hitters has Junior with a .347 wOBA over the last three calendar years, which is quite literally a league average DH when sampled over 500 PA’s.
He’s due for some regression. Will he be great? No. But he is not this team’s biggest problem on offense.
harkening - April 12, 2010
A three year average with all 3 years equally weighted is VERY misleading.
You’re discussing a 40 year old player who, as was pointed out, is sliding very badly downhill each year.
The reason Griffey’s BABIP sucks is the same reason Richie Sexson’s BABIP sucked: they both can’t hit any more.
The other problem is Griffey’s contribution is ALL with a bat. Wilson can’t hit, but he can field. Ditto Lopez and so on.
eponymous_coward - April 12, 2010
I was just responding to your comment that Griffey needs to be worth 0.5 WAR to be worth his contract
OlSalty - April 12, 2010
There's a few dozen better investments we could make.
harkening - April 12, 2010
I am not picking on you, but people need to realize that a bell curve distribution is not the same as the straight line that straight up Win Value at fangraphs suggests
The closer you are to replacement level, the less valuable your WAR is, and the farther away from it you are, the more valuable.
OlSalty - April 12, 2010
Yup.
0-0.5 WAR players are figuratively a dime a dozen. A lot of random AAA players could come in and give .5 WAR over a full season. Hell, Princess Willie could be a replacement-level 2B over a year.
eponymous_coward - April 12, 2010
"Hey, this argument didn't fly on one site, let's try it on another!"
Jeff Nye - April 12, 2010
It's sort of hard to mistake LL for the Times or PI comments section.
eponymous_coward - April 12, 2010
Hey, the conversations were going on simultaneously!
It’s almost like I was having a discussion with different people about the same topic! Crazy talk!
harkening - April 12, 2010
Understood.
Talent is in a bell curve, but payroll increases at a fairly linear rate once you hit league average.
harkening - April 12, 2010
"He’s had one good season since 2000, and everything else is varying levels of injured or garbage."
53 games seems to count in the “injured” pile.
eponymous_coward - April 12, 2010
Griffey has a track record of suck.
BrianL - April 12, 2010
Lame
OlSalty - April 12, 2010
Well, that sucked.
I’m gonna go eat junk food as a form of self-mutilation. How about you guys?
mjhhiv - April 12, 2010
I'm eating easy mac and studying for a test.
Fun.
E-Lizz - April 12, 2010
I was so excited to watch Baseball and study
My first go at it was on Friday. I got halfway through the chapter and ended up spending more time with bourbon than my book.
OceanBird - April 12, 2010
I don't even try. I just rearrange my day around the baseball games.
That’s why I’m writing an assignment for my reporting class at 11 PM.
I hate leads.
thehemogoblin - April 12, 2010
Gonna go beat Duchscherer myself in MLB 10 The Show.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
I hope you put Rob Johnson on the lowest minor league team.
Or deleted him.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
He is somewhere in Double A. I use Josh Bard.
Ender15 - April 12, 2010
Depending on the algorithm the computer uses for evaluating trades, you might be able to deal him for some interesting pieces.
harkening - April 12, 2010
I just trade him to the Royals for a rookie league player.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
In OOTP.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Do they end up starting him?
harkening - April 12, 2010
They rated him pretty high and depends on what the AI does.
He starts out 20/80, but has 50/80 potential which is way too generous.
w00tah - April 12, 2010
Goddamn fuck this team.
Goose - April 12, 2010 via mobile
How was that play by Bradley not an error?
msb - April 12, 2010
It was, according to the MLB boxscore.
Teej - April 12, 2010
So shouldn't some of the runs been unearned?
I need to check the box score elsewhere, I guess.
msb - April 12, 2010
I'm pretty sure those runs would have scored even if Bradley fielded it cleanly.
BrianL - April 12, 2010
Two runs were pretty much scoring on that single.
The only base that was given up on the error was allowing the batter to get to second.
Two Rs and Two Ls - April 12, 2010
I just wanted to blame someone.
msb - April 12, 2010
Blame Rob Johnson.
I Lick Squirrels - April 12, 2010
Maybe only the runs that would have come after the error would have been unearned.
msb - April 12, 2010
That's how I understood it.
BrianL - April 12, 2010
Depends.
There was no out to be made there, so if the next hit was a single or a double it’s probably an unearned run. If it’s a triple or a home run, it’s earned (he would have been at first regardless).
Or some such bullocks.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 12, 2010
If he had advanced to third and scored on a sac fly
then the run would have been unearned, I believe.
The error would have had to have made a meaningful contribution to the run scoring.
Two Rs and Two Ls - April 12, 2010
So it seems my theory was confirmed.
Don Bluth movies—more entertaining than Mariners games.
Benne - April 12, 2010
FUCK YOU, ROBERT JOHNSON.
You son of a shunned nun. You don’t belong in Seattle… hell, you don’t belong on the Clinton fucking Lumberkings.
Ian Smell - April 12, 2010
Inform Z. And Wak. And the whole fucking organization.
So tired of it.
harkening - April 12, 2010
So I was in class.
How did Rob fuck this one up?
the other side - April 12, 2010
Dropped a strikeout, leading to Gabe Gross's two-run single+.
thehemogoblin - April 12, 2010
He did actually block a small handful of pitches, though.
I was surprised and vaguely excited.
Two Rs and Two Ls - April 12, 2010
Rob is our scapegoat for the game.
We were shutout and we’re ticked off that we don’t have an offense.
TrustBaseball - April 12, 2010
I'm still going with Scrappy
eponymous_coward - April 12, 2010
That works too.
TrustBaseball - April 12, 2010
Rob is terrible.
I don’t know if he’s exactly a scapegoat. But absolutely everything bad that can and has happened is Rob Johnson’s fault.
the other side - April 13, 2010
On the bright side
Joe Mauer seems to be a nice guy.
Slow Country - April 12, 2010
Sure, we lost today...but today ruled!
People I met today (in order):
1. Howie Lincoln (I know, I know..)
2. Gov. Gregoire
3. Mayor McGinn
4. Jack Wilson
5. Randy Johnson
6. Edgar Martinez
7. Dan Wilson
8. Jay Buhner
9. Red
10. Red’s girlfriend (fiance? wife?)
So that made today AWESOME! Best home opener EVER!
sirbrianwilson - April 12, 2010
Red's wife.
harkening - April 12, 2010
1. Opening ceremony was the high point of the day.
2. The home plate umpires’ lil’ Michael Jackson strike dance was really, really annoying.
3. This game made me sad.
sanford_and_son - April 12, 2010
At least the bullpen helmet is back!
Mikky - April 12, 2010
I'm sure that won't last long.
sanford_and_son - April 13, 2010
Lame
Jeff Sullivan - April 13, 2010
Why the hell was this rec'd
Jeff Sullivan - April 13, 2010
I don't know, but run with it
seattlebruin - April 13, 2010
You logged in at 1 in the am to state the obvious?
Poochie - April 13, 2010
Kotchman's play at first made the number 9 play of the day on Sportscenter, not too shabby.
sanford_and_son - April 13, 2010
Number 9??
Lame. That was a fantastic freaking play.
the other side - April 13, 2010
It was #9 for all the plays, (all sport)
It was webgem #2 also, I believe.
doublemazaa - April 13, 2010
Thats a bit better.
I did see that Crawford play. Ridiculous.
the other side - April 13, 2010
Everyone needs to calm the fuck down
It’s the second week of baseball and the M’s first home game. Give them a break. Last year we started off hot and cooled down; perhaps this year we’re going for the opposite effect. If you guys were actual Mariners fans, you wouldn’t be assholes to all the players. Come on, at least give them a month before you start with this nonsense.
katherinekiyoko - April 13, 2010
I don't think you understand how game threads work.
Poochie - April 13, 2010
Oh no, I realize everyone's trying to be funny,
but it gets to a point where it’s just rude and pointless. I doubt the M’s would look at this thread and be thankful for their “fans.”
katherinekiyoko - April 13, 2010
Grown men getting paid to play baseball shouldn't be wasting time on the internet anyways.
But if they read this, I’m sure they think it’s hilariously retarded.
sanford_and_son - April 13, 2010
If people suck, we don't want them on the team anymore, the more people who suck you have on your team the less likely you are to win
Therefore, seeing people who suck remain on this team makes people angry, because we want to win. Those are the people who really get piled on (Griffey, Sweeney) and I don’t think it would be a bad thing to have that displeasure communicated to the people who run the team. If more people did it, one or both of them might not even be here right now.
Other times there are just frustrating moments in a game where people need to vent over a play. And sweet holy hell this team has been frustrating so far.
OlSalty - April 13, 2010
Personally I'm mad because the team is willfully not putting their best players on the field, and for an obsessive diehard fan, it is a frustrating helpless situation
When we lose in painful fashion, people tend to focus their frustrations on our worst players. I love Ken Griffey Jr., but he’s been beyond finished for some time now, and the nostalgia of him being in back Seattle wore off sometime back in 2007. I would hope he would retire with some dignity before it’s too late. Ken Griffey Jr. should not be remembered to a generation of fans as someone who should be booed when he comes to the plate, he shouldn’t be remembered as the guy who is literally the worst player in baseball.
Poochie - April 13, 2010
Accusing us of not being "actual Mariners fans" is a very, very poor idea.
royalcurve - April 13, 2010
I just don't see how saying "fuck this M's player" or "fuck that M's player" constitutes one being a Mariners fan
Why don’t we just stick to fuck the Angels and call it good? Oh and IT’S ONLY THE SECOND WEEK.
katherinekiyoko - April 13, 2010
Because the Mariners make us mad sometimes
Jeff Sullivan - April 13, 2010
And Griffey sucks
Jeff Sullivan - April 13, 2010
Because we support an organization and the team they put on the field to play baseball.
We want the Mariners to win. Certain players are not good at baseball, and therefore do not help the Mariners win.
And by “certain players”, I mean Rob fucking Johnson. And Mike Sweeney, but he’s such a swell guy that we don’t hate him—just his presence on the team.
harkening - April 13, 2010
I don't think you understand quite how fandom works
seattlebruin - April 13, 2010
The only player I seriously feel this way about is Rob Fucking Johnson.
And thats is totally fucking justified.
Get off it.
the other side - April 13, 2010
Can we please be a bit more civil?
seattlebruin - April 13, 2010
To Rob? No.
To other posters? Ya, I know. I’m really pissed off right now.
the other side - April 13, 2010
Because we care
If we didn’t care the team wouldn’t piss us off
Poochie - April 13, 2010
So here is the thing.
I have had season tickets for longer than you have known how to not shit your pants. Get to know the people here before you start shouting all high and mighty at us.
Sec 108 - April 13, 2010
Okay, I'm not saying Rob's brilliant,
but would you rather have Moore step in? Because that didn’t work out too well last week either. And if everyone weren’t so obsessed with the Kid then the M’s wouldn’t have brought him back in the first place. It isn’t our fault that most M’s fans are still living in the 90s. Sure, we don’t have a perfect team, but no one does. We need to support the players we do have because treating them like shit isn’t going to help them play better.
katherinekiyoko - April 13, 2010
It's going to make them play neither better nor worse
I still don’t think you quite understand how fandom works. When you care about a team and they do something bad, it’s upsetting. When you get upset, you say things you may or may not mean. When you say things you may or may not mean, they tend to come out angrily.
Thus, fuck Rob Johnson
seattlebruin - April 13, 2010
Also, we aren't treating them like shit.
We are venting about them. They do not experience this in person.
royalcurve - April 13, 2010
Wait, so just because you don't have the opportunity to say this to their face it doesn't count as badmouthing?
Are you honestly saying everyone that types “fuck Rob Johnson” on fandom wouldn’t say it to Rob’s face or scream it at home games? I find that hard to believe.
katherinekiyoko - April 13, 2010
Well I boo Rob Johnson everytime I go to the park
Poochie - April 13, 2010
I do the exact opposite!
Dewey N - April 13, 2010
Believe whatever you want to.
I cheer for them at games.
royalcurve - April 13, 2010
I openly boo Rob Johnson.
I openly turn to other fans and insist that Rob Johnson really sucks at his job. But when Rob does something right—like, I dunno, gets an XBH—I cheer. Why? Not because of Rob Johnson, but because it’s helping the Mariners.
I want the Mariners to do well, and by extension I want Johnson to do well. But I think the Mariners would do better with an alternative to Rob Johnson.
harkening - April 13, 2010
Why would we want our own team to be unsuccessful (Strasburg aside)?
that’s the whole point. When you care, you get upset. When you say upset you say irrational things
seattlebruin - April 13, 2010
"would you rather have Moore step in?"
500% YES!!!!!!!
I have no idea what the fuck the CI was about but his defense is so much better its not even funny. And he’s a freakin rookie people, the hitting will come around.
the other side - April 13, 2010
.
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/4/12/1417082/4-12-open-game-thread-part-2#34600547
seattlebruin - April 13, 2010
We have a statistically insignificant small sample size with Adam Moore.
We have 3/4 of a season of Johnson blocking a clearly superior catcher in Johjima. And sucking at it. He can’t catch, he can’t hit (even if his .269 wOBA regresses toward league average, this tends to stabilize around 500 plate appearances. He’d have to hit .370—better than Ichiro!—over his next 200 PA’s to be league average).
Good God I’d rather have Adam Moore.
harkening - April 13, 2010
Catchers who are league average hitters are 3.5 WAR players
seattlebruin - April 13, 2010
Johnson is not league average, though.
Nowhere close.
harkening - April 13, 2010
Yes, that's correct
seattlebruin - April 13, 2010
Which was sort of the point.
“Would you rather have Adam Moore?” was the question, with an appeal to his ridiculously small sample size of the last week. The answer here is “Yes, and here’s why: look, Johnson sort of sucks.”
harkening - April 13, 2010
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