Writes Gerry Spratt:
Ken Griffey Jr. is going through withdrawals.
No more carbonated caffeine. No more high fructose corn syrup.
He's given up soda.
"I was drinking 10-12 a day, and Chone Figgins challenged me to give 'em up eight days ago."
Good clubhouse chemistry: saving a teammate from bad chemistry in the clubhouse. Now all Figgins has to do is work on getting Eric Byrnes to quit energy drinks, getting Eric Byrnes to quit Adderall, getting Eric Byrnes to quit potent cocaine analogues, and getting Eric Byrnes to quit ecstasy.
It's like watching Buddy out there.
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Alternative theory: GriffLent.
abender20 - April 17, 2010
I guess this means the Mariners can cut Sweeny now!
Alexander Calloway - April 17, 2010
But then who would bring them the good news?
The muscley arm paperboy?
Janic - April 17, 2010
Jeff can!
He already does bring good news transaction wise
Alexander Calloway - April 17, 2010
Griffey is taking on the Griffey challenge!
killer_ewok18 - April 17, 2010
thats what I was thinking
Zonis - April 17, 2010
10-12 a day!!?
That’s a recipe for diabetes. If he can stay off that junk he’s liable to lose a couple pounds without lifting a finger. Yay, Chone!!
short - April 17, 2010
Seriously.
Janic - April 17, 2010
I lost 15lbs just giving up pop.
Scruffy Lefty - April 17, 2010
If I gave up pop, there'd be nothing left.
Two Rs and Two Ls - April 17, 2010
An eight ounce can of Pepsi has 150 calories.
x11 (between 10 and 12) is 1650 calories per day. The average human pound is about 3000 calories. Griffey is losing about 4 pounds a week without the soda.. Yikes.
harkening - April 17, 2010
He will wither away!
killer_ewok18 - April 17, 2010
Also, unused suger typically gets stored as fat.
He will lose whatever weight is being added by the soda, which might be 5-15 pounds, then the body will stop losing weight. The good thing is this is weight you lose “quickly” so people who lose this weight can get excited about losing more weight until they reach their natural body weight.
mark sobba - April 17, 2010
They mention switching to juice, though.
Juice isn’t much better in some situations. Lots of sugars as well, though generally more natural sugars than things like HFCS.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 17, 2010
Diabeetus
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 17, 2010
You want Eric Byrnes to stop?
Dewey N - April 17, 2010
This was a Hall of Fame-caliber professional athlete, by the way
It’s so disappointing when talent doesn’t give a shit.
Jeff Sullivan - April 17, 2010
It's further proof that he's a naturally spectacular athlete and was just born a freak.
abender20 - April 17, 2010
After reading this I'm not nearly as embarrassed about throwing a rant the other day.
The man has access to nutritionists, trainers, you name it.
Kermit. - April 17, 2010
Gatorade isn't much better and they're a big sports sponsor.
Neither is juice, (which he switched to) but people have been conditioned to believe that it’s good for you.
Janic - April 17, 2010
At least juice has natural sugars and some vitamins.
Someone needs to get Griffey a orange tree in his locker.
Scruffy Lefty - April 17, 2010
Or Mexican Coke.
w00tah - April 17, 2010
He plays in Seattle.
There’s a near endless supply of Jones Soda. Cane sugar!
harkening - April 17, 2010
I don't get the natural sugar thing.
And juice really isn’t that good for you. Most juice (apple juice) is basically sugar water. A lot of the 100% juice drinks just use this trick of adding apple or pear juice to their drinks to make them sweet without adding any sweeteners.
Edgar for Pres - April 17, 2010
The more fructose in your diet
The higher the likelihood of diabetes and heart disease. As far as caloric intake, sugar is still sugar. If someone needs to loose weight, you need to cut all that shit out.
Ballard Erik - April 17, 2010 via mobile
Yeah! No sugar! None at all! Cut it all out!
Matthew - April 17, 2010
Yeah but sucrose increases your chances of both those diseases too
And yeah I agree with you, your weight is determined by a simple equation:
Weight gain (lbs) = 3500*(Calories In – Calories Out – Calories Burned)
There is nothing fancy about weight loss for the most part for 99% of the population.
Edgar for Pres - April 17, 2010
Might not be entirely true
Recent studies suggest that corn syrup results in more weight gain than equal calories of sugar.
Goes to why corn syrup in soda is worse than the natural sugars in juice.
But this is a minor thing. You’re basically right about the basic behind weight gain.
Snuffleupagus - April 17, 2010
Yeah I basically don't believe those studies until they can explain why
It should be pretty easy to explain why corn syrup leads to more weight gain by using science and not surveys. Basically when it comes down to it I don’t believe most of the studies you hear on CNN (or elsewhere) because there is little understanding that you can gain from them and tend to be more hype and sensationalism. Maybe it takes them 5-10 yrs to figure it out but I’d rather wait for solid information before drawing conclusions based on what I consider suspect information.
Basically I’m more cynical than most.
Edgar for Pres - April 17, 2010
Health wise it really may be the same as sugar.
Just depends how you feel about Natural vs Artificial products.
Scruffy Lefty - April 17, 2010
I'm just a little surprised there has been such a backlash to corn syrup because it is kind of a natural product
If we used honey instead of corn syrup there’d probably be a backlash to that instead.
Edgar for Pres - April 17, 2010
Also
That equation is basically the first law of thermodynamics
If corn syrup violates this then we have some serious issues with all of physics, chemistry and engineering. (I kid, there are probably many feasible explanations such as corn syrup possibly causing your metabolism to slow down for example)
Edgar for Pres - April 17, 2010
New Study
From what I read it was just observing the result in rats. So it might not even be true for humans (but better than ‘survey’ results among people).
I think it could make perfect sense without defying science. I’m sure, as you say, we’ll find out as we continue to study it.
Snuffleupagus - April 17, 2010
Except for the fact that our bodies have been conditioned to accept natural sugars.
All the shit we’ve been putting in them for the last 50 years, well, they don’t have a response to it. You can see it from the high rates of diabetes in Native American groups, for example. Stop being skeptical and actually open your eyes to what is there.
Kirsten Schlewitz - April 17, 2010
Fructose is a natural sugar.
Every time you eat a piece of corn, you are taking in fructose. High fructose corn syrup is essentially stripping away all the good bits of corn to get at the fructose. It is also a structural isomer of glucose.
harkening - April 17, 2010
If you have to manufacture somthing in a lab, your body is not going to be used to processing it.
Kirsten Schlewitz - April 17, 2010
Not quite how it works.
Your body has no problem whatsoever processing fructose, generally speaking. HFCS contains both glucose and fructose. It’s pretty standard for digestion. HFCS isn’t some random chemical group; it’s fructose and glucose. Your body digests both of those all the time.
harkening - April 17, 2010
Right, even natural foods contain tons of fructose and glucose
But KS is right in that most natural sweets also include plenty of fiber. Because HFCS has the fiber stripped out, glucose enters the blood stream faster, which worsens the whole blood sugar spike/crash roller coaster.
rickpo - April 17, 2010
If native americans would have eaten large amounts of cane sugar instead of corn syrup
i bet they would have still gotten fat and gotten diabetes. I agree there might be issues that should be examined but I don’t see any conclusive understanding of why corn syrup is evil. It could be but I’m not willing to pay 10 cents more for a soda to get cane sugar.
Edgar for Pres - April 17, 2010
I think that's disputed
Many say that sugar consumption is only related to diabetes and heart disease because it leads to weight gain. If you have a high sugar diet but don’t gain weight (through exercise presumably) then you don’t have higher chance to get diabetes or heart disease.
I’m not a doctor, this is just what I’ve read after googling the topic.
Snuffleupagus - April 17, 2010
You're body is far better at breaking down naturally occurring sugar than HFCS.
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2010
Isnt that a bad thing then
The more sugar your body processes, the more glucose your body makes which when not used is converted to fat. It seems to me that your body would just crap (or pee) out the HFCS if your body can’t break it down
Edgar for Pres - April 17, 2010
You should probably not offer opinions on subjects you don't understand.
abender20 - April 17, 2010
I'm fucked if this becomes a site rule.
Sec 108 - April 19, 2010
Juice isn't good for you at all
Sugar is bad for you.
bluemax - April 17, 2010
The amount of sugar in everything is bad for you.
Scruffy Lefty - April 17, 2010
Juice is fine for you in reasonable quantities.
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2010
Gatorade isn't terrible, the problem is people in the States don't have any comprehension of what a serving size is
The ability to stop, or show some remote form of self-restraint, is the culprit in almost any poor diet.
cwel87 - April 17, 2010
This is true in everything.
Portion sizes are bigger all over the place and Americans have no concept of moderation. You can do just about anything harmful to you in moderation and not have it be detrimental to your health.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 17, 2010
I think this is almost exactly what I said
cwel87 - April 17, 2010
Maybe Barry Bonds was good so long because the harmful things he put into his body were FOR baseball, not against it.
lailaihei - April 17, 2010
Griffey is good for team chemistry because he teaches younger players how to not give a shit.
Sec 108 - April 19, 2010
How could he lose any weight at all?
If he was drinking 10-12 pops a day. Was he eating any food? I’d think it was diet soda, but the blurb mentions corn syrup.
Snuffleupagus - April 17, 2010
Lost muscle mass due to aging.
It’s still “weight”.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 17, 2010
He mentions that the sodas are just there in clubhouses
I assume during the offseason that he is limited by what he chooses to buy himself
Malcontent1 - April 17, 2010
Sodas just sitting around for professional athletes to drink
This is the sort of stuff that causes people to say that baseball players aren’t ‘real’ athletes.
Snuffleupagus - April 17, 2010
Professional athletes who aren't in shape
annoy me to no end. It’s not hard to eat healthy, it’s not hard to workout, especially when you have as much downtime, money and access to information as they do.
Tyler - April 17, 2010
Maybe for a major leaguer, but it's going to be much harder for those in the minors. (Where they would pick up those bad habits)
Janic - April 17, 2010
How long was Griffdawg in the minors for though?
Like a year?
Kirk - April 17, 2010
Speaking generally.
Janic - April 17, 2010
*as far as eating junk food.
Janic - April 17, 2010
Who is Gerry Sprat?
Dewey N - April 17, 2010
12 a day?
Pussy.
(but it’s Diet cokes, so a bit better.)
craig3410 - April 17, 2010
He'll only get cancer now!
SeaKoala - April 17, 2010
The aspartame thing?
It’s BS.
http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp
(I mean, no offense, but I’ll take the word of the FDA, The Lancet, and nearly every other doctor on earth’s word over some chain email.)
craig3410 - April 17, 2010
I don't really believe it either,
it was just for the sake of a joke.
SeaKoala - April 17, 2010
Um....why do you believe the FDA again?
Their record on food and drug regulation? Haha that would be a hilarious argument to make.
refuse2lose2010 - April 17, 2010
Sub thread 100% closed.
Matthew - April 17, 2010
No need for cynicism.
The FDA makes mistakes, but I would still take their word for things over a chain letter.
A CHAIN LETTER.
The Typical Idiot Fan - April 17, 2010
I wish this would get some hype.
Something were fans are encouraged to “Join Griffey in living a more healthy life” or something. Get all those wearing 24 jerseys to stop eatting junk food and eat more fruit and veggies.
Cutting soda was step one in my own weight loss journey. (Tooting horn, I have lost 50 pounds since Jan, 2008)
mark sobba - April 17, 2010
Sponsors
I’m not sure what kind of sponsors the Mariners have, but that would be a potential issue with something like this.
Although it seems like an opportunity for whatever juice Griffey is drinking now.
Snuffleupagus - April 17, 2010
Toot toot!
A better picture.
mark sobba - April 17, 2010
Well done on the weight loss!
EnglishMariner - April 18, 2010
Thanks!
mark sobba - April 18, 2010
10-12 sodas a day
is about a pound of refined sugar. A pound. That’s just gross, and for a guy who’s being paid millions it is irresponsible.
Bearskin Rugburn - April 17, 2010
Oh they wer diet. Well, okay then.
Bearskin Rugburn - April 17, 2010
Still pretty gross.
Kirk - April 17, 2010
Hell, it's better than greenies, at least.
craig3410 - April 17, 2010
Greenies never made anybody fat
pdb - April 17, 2010
Thats disgusting...
Punkhazard - April 17, 2010
We should have all seen this coming.
Janic - April 17, 2010
Beat me to it. Favorite Simpsons episode!
sanford_and_son - April 17, 2010
It feels like a party in my mouth, and everyone's invited
BaronVonBullshit - April 17, 2010
It really is amazing how unhealthy soda is.
I’m a 145 pound twig. I gave up soda back in september and went from 155 to 140 in about a month and an half without any kind of extra exercise. Of course, now I drink several sweet teas a day instead so I really shouldn’t b so proud of myself.
levnclf - April 17, 2010
God i hope his family gets diagnosed with aproximently 9 forms of cancer.
Robert - April 17, 2010 via mobile
Well crap. Fruit Juice is full of sugar and is basically as bad as soda.
mark sobba - April 17, 2010
With the in-house nutritionist, they might have better fruit juice on hand.
msb - April 17, 2010
My guess would be
Since there’s enough soda on hand that Griffey could drink 10-12 without really noticing it, my assumption is that the nutritionist has little to do with the snack selection in the clubhouse and it’s probably just some page that keeps it stocked with whatever the players ask for.
Malcontent1 - April 17, 2010
I thoughtI read somewhere that he actually does have control over it and cleared out the majority of the crap this season.
wazzu93 - April 17, 2010
The real fruit juice is wonderful.
mark sobba - April 17, 2010
Wrong sub-thread.
mark sobba - April 17, 2010
Actually it's not.
Similar calories and grams from sugar, but besides that juices have significant benefits. Weight gain isn’t the only risk inherited by drinking sugars. The type of sugar is really important, and high fructose corn syrup is basically number one for diabetes.
refuse2lose2010 - April 17, 2010
You and MSB are spot on.
Soda has no nutritional value while fruit juice has some. The team nutritionist should have the really good juice in the clubhouse.
mark sobba - April 17, 2010
And you can buy expensive organic all juice juice which is delicious.
wazzu93 - April 17, 2010
The real fruit juice is wonderful.
(Right sub-thread)
mark sobba - April 17, 2010
So.... Kool Aid?
CapSea - April 17, 2010
OH YEAH!
JAH - April 17, 2010
Also fruit juice is absolutely not as bad as soda.
CapSea - April 17, 2010
I don't know where people came up with the idea that the two are remotely equivalent
cwel87 - April 17, 2010
"As soda is singled out for its role in the rise of obesity, juice is offered as the sensible alternative."
It’s time fruit juice loses its wholesome image, some experts say
Janic - April 17, 2010
Switching to Juice isn't going to help you lose weight.
But its not as a bad as pop.
Scruffy Lefty - April 17, 2010
Logical Fallacy
Sugar is bad, ergo fruit juice must be bad because it contains sugar. A horse has four legs, ergo that dog must be a horse.
CapSea - April 17, 2010
I think the argument is actually that fruit juice is often assumed to be quite good for you, comparable to eating fresh fruit.
(Thank you food pyramid….)
In reality eating an apple is much better for you than drinking apple juice. If you are choosing to drink soda or apple juice then you should drink apple juice. If you are trying to maximize the potential of your diet then you shouldn’t have either and eat an apple instead.
I definitely don’t eat healthy and probably shouldn’t preach to people about how to eat (have a diet coke, bag of cheetos and bag of reese’s in front of me right now) but for example if i was a parent I would probably try to reduce my kid’s consumption of fruit juice unless they were picky brats that refused to eat their fruits and veggies.
Edgar for Pres - April 17, 2010
Sugars are all different.
Comparing soda to juice just because they have sugar is nonsensical. You wouldn’t compare lava cake to whole wheat bread just because they have carbs. These are simply not the same thing, and comparing the two at all, especially comparing the two because they both have sugar, is arguing anti-logic.
CapSea - April 17, 2010
Generally water > juice > pop
The bad thing about pop is not just the sugar (though it is a big part of it).
And for juice, freshly made juice (yes, I still make and drink these) > not freshly made juice > juice from concentrate.
I’m guessing Griffey’s going for the not freshly made juice but without pulp. Better than pop, but water’s still the way to go. Sadly, “just drinking water” is impossible these days for most people. This is the sad thing about capitalism… those damn corporations getting us hooked on these things.
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
Go back to before capitalism and people certainly weren't drinking water.
Water in itself is not actually good for you—it’s got nothing to it.
If we’re talking just calories (and Americans are fucking obsessed with calories, yet still obese) then yes, drink water. But nutrients are important and in that case, 100% juice. Or even better, fruit.
/end rant due to headache.
Kirsten Schlewitz - April 17, 2010
Water in itself isn't good for you?
I can’t disagree more. Definitely sugar isn’t good for you, but drinking tons of sodapop is doubly so because it tends to stand in for water in a lot of people’s diets. Drink a lot of soda and you probably don’t drink enough water. Plus caffeine is a diuretic.
People didn’t drink much water pre-industrial revolution because sources of clean drinking water were limited. And, you would probably have less of a headache if you drank more water! Water water water. And drink it hot/warm, not with ice.
lemonverbena - April 17, 2010
I believe she meant water has no nutritional value.
Not that its not good for you. Because our bodies need water.
Scruffy Lefty - April 17, 2010
And who says nutrients only come from drinks?
That’s what food is for, isn’t it?
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
For a very long time we mostly got energy through liquids
These days we double up. Silly.
Graham MacAree - April 17, 2010
Delicious beer
Now that’s a caloric rich drink I think we can all get behind.
Edgar for Pres - April 17, 2010
Yep
From what I’ve heard, ice water (and really cold drinks in general) are bad for your stomach. When you drink it during meals, it can decrease the functions of your digestive system (just think about what kinda torture your stomach must be feeling while being cold as heck and trying to work properly)
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
Fuck that
I’m not giving up ice :)
Scruffy Lefty - April 17, 2010
And drinking ice water right after/during intense exercise is not good either
It slows down the rate that you sweat (confuses your system that it’s cold), which can be bad for your heart. Heard this from one of my dad’s research thingies, so take it with a grain of salt.
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
What
abender20 - April 17, 2010
I've tried testing it and it does exactly that
Drink really cold water right after you exercise, and sweating reduces. When you think about what exactly sweating does, you realize what you are doing to yourself.
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
People need to stop offering up hypotheses on things they don't understand.
You sweat as a result of increased body temperature. It’s evaporative cooling. Drinking cold fluids is a convenient way to help conduct heat. It’s a great idea.
abender20 - April 17, 2010
I don't like to disagree with a potential doctor
But I actually have read quite a bit about how water fucks with your digestive process if you drink it with meals, as well as how you shouldn’t drink ice water while exercising.
Kirsten Schlewitz - April 17, 2010
Except that cold fluids don't go around your body.
Drinking cold fluids does not and cannot equate to the effects of sweating.
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
They don't have to go around your body. Take a thermodynamics class and some physiology before opining.
abender20 - April 17, 2010
It does exactly that
Your warm insides have to work against the cold liquid. Drink cold water while eating and the food turns into a hard lump in your stomach. Resisting cold water is much harder for me than were giving up red meat, sugar, wheat flour.
lemonverbena - April 17, 2010
Giving up red meat is worth a sad face.
harkening - April 17, 2010
I like the challenge
lemonverbena - April 17, 2010
What
abender20 - April 17, 2010
Basically, the bacteria and proteins in your body have an optimal temperature range for operation.
With cold water, you artificially lower the temperature at your core, and this decreases the efficacy of the proteins and bacteria doing digestion.
harkening - April 17, 2010
Well this is a bunch of bullshit, frankly
Graham MacAree - April 17, 2010
Your body heat heats up the water in no time
Don’t see how this is an issue.
OlSalty - April 17, 2010
It's a big issue sometimes actually
When you are hypothermic and thirsty DON’T EAT THE FUCKING SNOW
Graham MacAree - April 17, 2010
What if it's yellow snow? Then it should be warmer
Corco - April 17, 2010
Well yeah in extreme cases like that absolutely
But drinking a cup of ice water with your meal? No.
OlSalty - April 17, 2010
Plus generally in that situation you're melting the snow in your mouth then drinking it
Which prolongs the amount of time it has to lower your body temperature
OlSalty - April 17, 2010
It's not a time thing, it's an energy thing
Total energy is the same no matter what
Graham MacAree - April 17, 2010
No, it's still requires heat from your circulatory system to melt that snow.
abender20 - April 17, 2010
That's why I'm saying it's a bad thing to eat snow when you're in a hypothermic situation
OlSalty - April 17, 2010
It is, but your argument above isn't correct.
Total heat content doesn’t change.
abender20 - April 17, 2010
It doesn't lower your body temperature to eat snow?
Okay, I think I get what you’re saying, so it just makes the body work harder to produce heat?
OlSalty - April 17, 2010
He's not disagreeing with you about that
It just doesn’t matter whether you’re melting the snow in your mouth, in your hands, or in your stomach.
Graham MacAree - April 17, 2010
Oh, well I wasn't advocating melting it with your hands or against your body either
I’m in total agreement, in those situations you’re supposed to melt it over a fire.
OlSalty - April 17, 2010
Not quick enough for the temperatures that are available these days
Think about when you shove a cup of cold water down your throat. Something like 1-2 degrees. Can’t warm up that fast.
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
Mostly water.
Not the 90% pop/sugared drinks that we see these days
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
What are you responding to?
Kirsten Schlewitz - April 17, 2010
I don't even remember.
Got lost in the chain I guess.
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
Water>Juice>Sodapop was my basic thought but I didn't say it like that.
As mention above, there are healthy juice options but a lot of people still don’t understand the difference between the two choices.
mark sobba - April 17, 2010
Getting Eric Byrnes to wash his hair. Ever.
msb - April 17, 2010
Maybe he should just shave it off, like Richie Sexson.
I don’t recall that working too well for Big Sexy though.
refuse2lose2010 - April 17, 2010
I wish Griffey would give up sucking instead of pop for his Griffey lent
OlSalty - April 17, 2010
While I'm not saying he's going to be great.
He’s only played 7 games this year and has 25 PAs. I don’t expect him to suddenly become amazing, but the sample is so small he hasn’t even gotten a chance to show how much he sucks yet this year.
CapSea - April 17, 2010
You can see that he sucks by looking at him at the plate.
Kirk - April 18, 2010
Jesus christ none of you guys know anything about metabolism
Stop pretending you do.
Graham MacAree - April 17, 2010
True
My dad’s an expert on this, but I, like most people (here), only know “hearsay science”.
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
Yup.
With that said, I can concur with above posters that cutting out HFCS made me feel
muchbetter. The weight loss didn’t really happen for me, but I’m a skinny nerd to begin with.Rachmaninoff - April 17, 2010
I drink about as much soda as Griffey did
a) should I stop and b) what should I drink instead (besides water and ice tea).
Zonis - April 17, 2010
Juice as a first step. Then try to mix in a bit of everything
By everything I mean milk, soymilk, tea, etc.
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
Raw soy (as in soy milk) is high in phytoestrogens.
Not exactly friendly for the male hormonal cocktail. Unless Zonis is on a mission to develop some man boobs.
harkening - April 17, 2010
I did say mix it up
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
Females are not supposed to drink soymilk, either
The soymilk market is a bunch of bullshit.
Kirsten Schlewitz - April 17, 2010
It piggybacked on the needs of the lactose intolerant.
And became a health craze. It doesn’t even taste like milk; I don’t understand people’s love of it.
harkening - April 17, 2010
Vanilla soy is pretty tasty in small doses.
CapSea - April 17, 2010
I like soymilk
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2010
Almond milk is way better though
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2010
Almond butter>peanut butter.
melenious - April 19, 2010
If I go the milk route, I'll stick to my whole milk, thank you ;)
Zonis - April 17, 2010
Whole milk is not a bad thing, actually.
harkening - April 17, 2010
Beer and cocktails.
wazzu93 - April 17, 2010
Great advice.
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
a.) Yes.
b.) Water is good. Learn to love it.
abender20 - April 17, 2010
Water is amazing.
Scruffy Lefty - April 17, 2010
le sigh
might have to go with water then…
Lemon water?
Zonis - April 17, 2010
Yup lemon water's good
Allen Wu - April 17, 2010
I weened my self using crystal light (Or other instant mix powdered drinks - The ones that are sugar free)
And slowly back off how much I would use until it became just water.
Scruffy Lefty - April 17, 2010
Or cucumber.
Kirsten Schlewitz - April 17, 2010
Easily my second favorite beverage to coffee
CapSea - April 17, 2010
I cut soda out of my diet by drinking water, milk, and beer
Corco - April 17, 2010
Yes, you really should stop.
I’ve dropped about fifty pounds mostly by cutting fast food and the 5-6 cans of soda I used to drink on a daily basis out of my diet.
BrianL - April 17, 2010
I eat nothing but fast food and soda
if I stop drinking coke and eating McDonalds every day, I’d have nothing left!
Also, if I dropped 50lb, I’d weigh like 80 pounds….
Zonis - April 17, 2010
You're drying to drop weight from 130?
How tall are you!?
harkening - April 17, 2010
5'6" or so
Zonis - April 17, 2010
between 5'6 and 5'7
Zonis - April 17, 2010
You have a rough BMI of 21.
You are dead in the middle of “normal range” for weight-height ratio. In short, you don’t need to lose weight. But eating healthier doesn’t always mean losing weight.
harkening - April 17, 2010
I just wonder in a way what my weight would be if I cut out, at least, eating McDonalds and drinking soda all the time
I’ve actually gained like 15-20 pounds in the last few years, believe it or not, though I have been eating that same stuff since I was like 13
Zonis - April 17, 2010
You got older and your metabolism followed suit.
Tough luck. To put this in perspective, over the last 6 months, I’ve dropped 30 pounds just by being slightly more careful about what I eat, not even intentionally counting calories, just averaging stuff. I haven’t significantly altered by exercise routine or anything, just food. A little bit goes a long way.
harkening - April 17, 2010
Well I am thinking about doing something similar
I am a very picky eater, and I already have trouble eating-that is to say, I’ve always found myself having to remind myself to eat, not because I am hungry, but because I usually don’t get hungry and thus forget. Problem is, I get migraines when I don’t eat for too long, which again, becomes kind of a problem when one doesn’t get hungry, and is picky about what to eat to boot (though the pickiness might also be a result of not getting hungry, that is to say, because I don’t get hungry, I can simply not eat until something I do like becomes available).
So before the ot ramble, I was thinking of simply seeing what happens if I eliminate McDonalds and Soda from my diet, and don’t simply replace the McDonalds and Soda with even more Pizza and another bad drink.
Zonis - April 17, 2010
You probably won't lose much weight
You probably will feel much more energetic
Graham MacAree - April 17, 2010
I am incredibly skeptical that BMI has any real meaning
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2010
BMI is quick and dirty.
Because it doesn’t account for muscle mass. Most professional athletes have “obese” BMI’s because muscle is denser than fat. But for the average person, it’s of some use.
harkening - April 17, 2010
Some, but people take it way too seriously.
You can be perfectly health with an above-average BMI and unhealthy with an “ideal” BMI.
Aaron Campeau - April 17, 2010
I remember when I was considering enlisting and the recruiter told me I had to drop some weight to match their "cutoff" line.
And I was like “Do you see my body type? What do you guys want, a twig?” I would have withered to get down to the weight they were asking for.
harkening - April 17, 2010
I was thinking more from the health perspective than the weight perspective
Zonis - April 17, 2010
Got it.
harkening - April 17, 2010
Ice tea isn't great for you either unless it's low in carbohydrates.
Most of the juice drinks and ice tea you can buy at say 7-11 are loaded with just as much sugar as pop but they at least have some vitamins in them. Pop has pretty much nothing good for you in it.
OlSalty - April 17, 2010
One thing I have read about why America is fat
is our reliance on high fructose corn syrup for everything instead of pure sugar from, for example, sugar cane.
Zonis - April 17, 2010
HFCS is glucose and fructose.
Our bodies digest this all the time. It’s just not true. There are no “unnatural” sugars in HFCS. They’re just put in ratios designed by man.
harkening - April 17, 2010
Holy shit.
Kermit. - April 17, 2010
This was a much more interesting thread than I anticipated upon opening.
Omerta - April 17, 2010
Perhaps this change in diet
by Griffey could make him less happy and have a negative affect on clubhouse chemistry.
lmeyer40 - April 17, 2010
I wish Griffey was into training...
but shit. Dude drinks 12 sodas a day. There are many worse things. Wade Boggs drank like 45 beers a day. Barry Bonds was into physical training. If someone is working to give up soda, well…. Good for them.
I think it is going to be great when Griffey hits a HR and I can finally drink a soda again while he tells everyone he just feels so much better since not drinking soda.
For all the sugar debate going on here and for people interested in it, Steve Nash swears that cutting sugar out of his diet has prolonged his career.
Rich Langford - April 17, 2010
I can't get the image of Griffey chugging gallons of Mt. Dew every day out of my head.
What a jerk.
sanford_and_son - April 20, 2010
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