It's like they decided that because Lee was actually injured that his retaliation was okay.
Which is stupid.
What would make more sense is the realisation that since Lee’s on the DL the M’s could just activate him 5 days early and let him serve the suspension like that, so the whole thing was pointless.
but wouldn’t the M’s have just activated Lee from the DL a few days early after his last rehab start, as clearing a roster spot is as simple as designating Colome for assignment?
This also allows us to not activate Lee until we’re sure he’s ready.
Otherwise we may reactivate him a few days early, have him serve his suspension only to find out he’s not quite ready, and then have to juggle the fact that he’s no longer on the DL but still can’t pitch.
the decision to activate him would be made after his last rehab start
so that is not an issue.
A six-man bullpen is not really a problem, but if there is an emergency and the bullpen gets taxed in the interim, option Sean White (or Vargas or Fister if they lose their rotation spot) down in exchange for a fresh arm. The optioned player only has to stay in Tacoma for 10 days.
No, I think all three have at least one option left
Baker looked at this before the season, and none were listed as one of the players out of options with less than five years of service time.
Fister is easy — he was not added to the 40-man roster until last year.
White was first added to a 40-man roster in 2007 when he was a Rule 5 pick and then was outrighted after 2008 and re-signed to a minor league deal before the 2009 season. He should have at least one, if not two, options left.
Vargas looks like he qualifies for the Wlad Balentien memorial fourth option since he made the majors so quickly after being signed (and then missed 1+ years on the DL).
So if they insert Lee there, they push back Felix one day. Or of course, they could move Felix up one day with all the off days coming up and simply skip Vargas on the 1st or Snell earlier on that week.
…and the Orioles have Adam Jones, a couple good prospects, and had George Sherrill. So it does matter. Also, some here follow minor leaguers and are interested in how they’re doing even after they’re no longer M’s.
Because the Mariners saw him as a reliever at the time of the trade, while the Phillies saw him as a starter, obviously a huge gap in value between those two. Aumont becoming a legitimate front/middle of the rotation starter would probably justify the trade from the Phillies perspective.
WOOHOO!
7 run inning last night, then finding out your #2 starter’s suspension gets dropped? Good day.
seattle_since_81 - April 20, 2010
Just being reminded that the M's have a pitcher dominant enough to make Lee a 2 makes for a good day.
Rich Langford - April 20, 2010
Lee is not a 2. He's a 1.5 at most.
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
I think you're missing the point
noontide is saying that Cliff Lee is awesome and the sheer fact that we have someone better than him makes him very happy
seattlebruin - April 20, 2010
Still, 1.5. I like Lee. I will not settle for 2, even for Felix.
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
Call it retarded stubbornness.
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
1 and 1A
lemonverbena - April 20, 2010
That works too
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
He'll still be 2nd in the rotation.
ToddK - April 20, 2010
Retarded stubbornness it is.
TheBishop - April 20, 2010
Hell yeah!
Can’t wait to see him.
An ace! At Safeco! Other than Felix! On the Mariners!
lailaihei - April 20, 2010
Did you miss 2008? We had 5 aces!
joof - April 20, 2010
I almost smashed my keyboard, thanks.
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
I'd rather call him...
our 2nd #1. Happy Day!
universalguru - April 20, 2010
Huzzah!
zeeehjee - April 20, 2010
Spot on sir, spot on!
sigalert - April 20, 2010
CHOOOO CHOOOOOO!
melenious - April 20, 2010
Stop reminding me we traded him to Cleveland
killer_ewok18 - April 20, 2010
Or stop associating CHOOOO CHOOOO! with Shin-soo Choo.
Wilder. - April 20, 2010
Bout. Fucking. Time.
OlSalty - April 20, 2010
Although good on MLB for not obstinately sticking to their stupid decision out of some refusal to admit they fucked up in the first place
OlSalty - April 20, 2010
MLB did something right?
There has to be something else going on.
Or they saw Z’s shiny head and… well, all bets are off after that.
the other side - April 20, 2010
Playoffs!!!
BigR - April 20, 2010
Yay
Poochie - April 20, 2010
Woot!
May is going to be tough. We’ll need him.
speedomike - April 20, 2010
Two aces!
JY - April 20, 2010
Fold
ThomasG - April 20, 2010
Remember we have Bedard coming on the turn.
3 aces is a hand worth betting.
ToddK - April 20, 2010
I think if RRS and Fister turn into awesome, we automatically lose.
4 of a kind is a great hand but 5 of a kind is cheating.
Johnny Slick - April 20, 2010
If you get away with it....
the other side - April 20, 2010
Not since they brought in the Wild Card.
JY - April 20, 2010
WILD CARD BITCHES
cwel87 - April 20, 2010
That is my favorite Alway Sunny episode ever.
RunningFool - April 20, 2010
bahahaha
seattlebruin - April 20, 2010
Hallelujah!
drblacknwhite - April 20, 2010
When's the last time the MLB dropped a suspension like this?
CKel - April 20, 2010
When's the last time MLB suspended somebody for something that happened in a practice game?
The whole thing was asinine.
pdb - April 20, 2010
It's like they decided that because Lee was actually injured that his retaliation was okay.
Which is stupid.
What would make more sense is the realisation that since Lee’s on the DL the M’s could just activate him 5 days early and let him serve the suspension like that, so the whole thing was pointless.
Llewdor - April 20, 2010
Or it's like they saw Clifton Lee's honest, smiling face in the teleconference and decided his retaliation was okay
Which is awesome.
lemonverbena - April 20, 2010
I like to think that there's a little Patrick Bateman hiding behind Cliff Lee's wholesome facade
Bearskin Rugburn - April 20, 2010
Oh he's a bad motherfucker between the lines, no question
lemonverbena - April 20, 2010
Yayyyy
Now just stretch out so we can get Snell out of this rotation!
phil333 - April 20, 2010
Huh, according to Baker the fine was completely dropped as well.
BrianL - April 20, 2010
Guess they bought the "It's all Snyyyyyyyyder's fault" argument.
msb - April 20, 2010
.
lemonverbena - April 20, 2010
I love that dance.
here.
msb - April 20, 2010
That was hilarious.
ToddK - April 20, 2010
The singing is by the Avalon Boys, led by Chill Wills as their bass singer
before he became a fine character actor.
msb - April 20, 2010
This is good news and all
but wouldn’t the M’s have just activated Lee from the DL a few days early after his last rehab start, as clearing a roster spot is as simple as designating Colome for assignment?
G_ - April 20, 2010
Yes, but we'd have to go with 24 guys for the length of the suspension.
Thus allowing the 6 man bullpen to blow up again, like during the first week of the season.
doublemazaa - April 20, 2010
and also
This also allows us to not activate Lee until we’re sure he’s ready.
Otherwise we may reactivate him a few days early, have him serve his suspension only to find out he’s not quite ready, and then have to juggle the fact that he’s no longer on the DL but still can’t pitch.
doublemazaa - April 20, 2010
the decision to activate him would be made after his last rehab start
so that is not an issue.
A six-man bullpen is not really a problem, but if there is an emergency and the bullpen gets taxed in the interim, option Sean White (or Vargas or Fister if they lose their rotation spot) down in exchange for a fresh arm. The optioned player only has to stay in Tacoma for 10 days.
G_ - April 20, 2010
Some if not all of those guys are out of options.
Kermit. - April 20, 2010
Oh no, Sean White went away!
the travesty!
seattlebruin - April 20, 2010
Whatever will we do!
Kermit. - April 20, 2010
I am going to go cry in the corner and wipe my damp eyes with Jose Lopez's SSS +6 +/- rating
seattlebruin - April 20, 2010
No, I think all three have at least one option left
Baker looked at this before the season, and none were listed as one of the players out of options with less than five years of service time.
Fister is easy — he was not added to the 40-man roster until last year.
White was first added to a 40-man roster in 2007 when he was a Rule 5 pick and then was outrighted after 2008 and re-signed to a minor league deal before the 2009 season. He should have at least one, if not two, options left.
Vargas looks like he qualifies for the Wlad Balentien memorial fourth option since he made the majors so quickly after being signed (and then missed 1+ years on the DL).
G_ - April 20, 2010
I'm so glad we've re-named the fourth option after Wlad Balentien
seattlebruin - April 20, 2010
a pleasant surprise at first
that ultimately turns out kind of pointless
G_ - April 20, 2010
Like Doug Fister's no-hit bid!
seattlebruin - April 20, 2010
Good information and much appreciated.
Kermit. - April 20, 2010
WEEE
xero3k - April 20, 2010
Well, good. I'm glad MLB didn't fuck this one up.
royalcurve - April 20, 2010
I have tickets for May 1
I hope that is when he comes back. :)
nosretap - April 20, 2010
May 2nd looks to be his first start.
BrianL - April 20, 2010
So is Lee slotted in #2 spot? Or #3?
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
It literally could not matter less
seattlebruin - April 20, 2010
Well it kinda does. Felix Day followed by Cliff Day is like a Mariners wet dream
Felix Day followed by RR-S Day followed by Cliff Day is kinda meh.
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
This appears to be your very own personal problem.
Sec 108 - April 20, 2010
Well, it was my question to begin with. Of course it reflected my own concerns.
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
Stop being selfish.
CMC_Stags - April 20, 2010
Well I'm sorry for wanting a Mariners wet dream
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
Thanks for sharing
royalcurve - April 20, 2010
You shut you whore mouth.
Mariner John - April 20, 2010
Wak will get the order right when the ALDS starts
lemonverbena - April 20, 2010
Yep, Vargas, Snell and Fister. ; )
Coach Owens - April 20, 2010
Oh god no. Don't even joke about that.
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
Felix for closer!
seattlebruin - April 20, 2010
That is actually a great idea
Have him come in to close some games like Randy did.
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
(this was a terrible idea.)
seattlebruin - April 20, 2010
No it's not. Felix and terrible idea? No waaaaay~
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
The funny thing is the Cubs are actually considering moving Carlos Zambrano to closer
For reals
OlSalty - April 20, 2010
Err not the Cubs
Al Yellon was saying it would be a good idea.
OlSalty - April 20, 2010
May 2nd is currently scheduled to be Felix Day
So if they insert Lee there, they push back Felix one day. Or of course, they could move Felix up one day with all the off days coming up and simply skip Vargas on the 1st or Snell earlier on that week.
hiskeyd - April 20, 2010
Figuring out where to pitch Cliff Lee in the rotation is an amazingly awesome problem to have.
the other side - April 20, 2010
I'm going to that game so either way I'm happy.
ToddK - April 20, 2010
Woo
Griffin Cooper - April 20, 2010
You seem to be only moderately enthusiastic about this development.
Kermit. - April 20, 2010
Yeah man you should have at least 5 times the number of o's in there
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
The distinct lack of all caps is troubling as well.
Kermit. - April 20, 2010
Not the mention the lack of exclamation mark(s)
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
Not to*
Allen Wu - April 20, 2010
His loyalty may be suspect.
Kermit. - April 20, 2010
Why you over analytical son of a bitch
Griffin Cooper - April 20, 2010
Are you calling Cliff Lee a practicioner of woo, sir?
He may not have Felix’s electric stuff but he is hardly a quack. I declare nemesis upon you, sirrah!
Johnny Slick - April 20, 2010
Does anyone know how the prospects the Ms traded for Cliff Lee are doing?
Punkhazard - April 20, 2010
Who cares?
Seriously, who gives a fuck we have Cliff Lee.
the other side - April 20, 2010
It's a perfectly legitimate question
seattlebruin - April 20, 2010
Sounded like that old knee-jerk distrust of our front office.
I guess I am kinda curious too.
the other side - April 20, 2010
People really have to be a little more polite
Jeff Sullivan - April 20, 2010
Are we far enough into the season and the arrival of a fresh crop of posters
that we should have some sort of OT post about etiquette and expectations and whatnot? Seems like it might be time for a refresher.
pdb - April 20, 2010
Probably
Jeff Sullivan - April 20, 2010
I'll start one up here shortly then
pdb - April 20, 2010
The annual LL charm school post!
Bearskin Rugburn - April 20, 2010
Can we make them walk around with a book balanced on their head?
msb - April 20, 2010
I am so good at that!
royalcurve - April 20, 2010
I'm not.
Apparently I am a pointy-headed alien.
msb - April 20, 2010
And yet you seem so normal.
ToddK - April 20, 2010
Normally NICE!, I would like to add.
Sam Regens - April 20, 2010
Sorry boss.
Sec 108 - April 20, 2010
It's my own fault
Jeff Sullivan - April 20, 2010
No, it is me too.
I need to find somewhere else to blow off steam.
Sec 108 - April 20, 2010
Fuck off
I mean, I agree.
TheBishop - April 20, 2010
We also have Erik Bedard...
…and the Orioles have Adam Jones, a couple good prospects, and had George Sherrill. So it does matter. Also, some here follow minor leaguers and are interested in how they’re doing even after they’re no longer M’s.
Johnny Slick - April 20, 2010
Sure
Go here.
Sec 108 - April 20, 2010
It is very very early
Gillies has struggled in AA. Aumont has struggled in AA. Juan Ramirez is still in A-ball and doing whatever.
Jeff Sullivan - April 20, 2010
This trade has allowed me to stop pretending I care about Ramirez.
You can be obsessed with a guy’s arm all you want, but if the results aren’t there…
JY - April 20, 2010
I am really interested in how Aumont does
Because the Mariners saw him as a reliever at the time of the trade, while the Phillies saw him as a starter, obviously a huge gap in value between those two. Aumont becoming a legitimate front/middle of the rotation starter would probably justify the trade from the Phillies perspective.
Punkhazard - April 20, 2010
Juan Ramirez is eating cold beans out of a can and watching Girls Gone Wild ads at 2 in the morning
lemonverbena - April 20, 2010
You say that like it's a bad thing
pdb - April 20, 2010
Everyone knows beans are better warmed up in the microwave.
TheBishop - April 20, 2010
After a bottle of Mad Dog it doesn't matter so much
pdb - April 20, 2010
I bet Juan prefers Cisco.
TheBishop - April 20, 2010
If you're eating them out of a can, seems like it would be a bad idea to warm them in the microwave.
joof - April 20, 2010
What a relief.
Some Lee-way.
voltron27 - April 20, 2010
Boo.
SethGrandpa - April 20, 2010
Shannon says Lee might pitch 4/30. Yay earlier!
SethGrandpa - April 20, 2010
I hope they decide soon so it hopefully falls on a weekend and I can buy tickets. :)
wazzu93 - April 20, 2010
Lee pitching on Felix bobblehead day?!
Proposterous
EequalsMc2 - April 20, 2010 via mobile
Time to take a field trip to T-Town!
melenious - April 21, 2010
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