Cliff Lee is, rather obviously, a big part of the Mariners' plans. He's either their best or their second-best starting pitcher, and one of their few best players overall. Cliff Lee's acquisition might've been the biggest reason Mariner fans started thinking about the playoffs.
Cliff Lee also isn't making his season debut until the last day of April. A Mariners team without Lee is unquestionably weakened, and when he first went down, the consensus was that his absence would cost the team about a win in the standings.
Looking back, though, how did things bear out? While the Mariners missed Lee's talent, did they actually miss his performance?
No, I don't think they did. And here's why: the pitcher who got added to the rotation to fill in for Lee was Doug Fister. And Doug Fister, through his four starts, has allowed five runs in 27 innings. That's phenomenal, and though we all know Fister can't sustain that kind of record, what's done is done.
Realistically, it isn't this simple. Lee probably would've gotten different starts. The whole rotation would've been jumbled around. Maybe Jason Vargas would've been the guy left on the outside looking in instead of Fister. There's no easy way for us to compare the Mariners now to what the Mariners would've been right now given a healthy Cliff Lee.
But the overall point, I think, doesn't change. While we can't say what the Mariners' record would be through 20 games with a healthy Cliff Lee, we can say that their problems so far haven't come from Lee's replacement(s). They've come from Ian Snell, and Ryan Rowland-Smith, and some of the bullpen, and most every position player on the team. They've come from players whose performances are in no significant way dependent on Cliff Lee's health.
Cliff Lee's return will be a big boost to this team going forward. Of that there's no doubt in my mind. When a star player gets injured, though, you just hope to get lucky, and the M's got lucky enough that, for a handful of weeks, they didn't really miss him. Should the Mariners ultimately fall short of what's expected of them this year, then, I don't think we'll be able to point to Lee's injury as a contributing factor.
37 comments
I still don't believe we have Cliff Lee on our team
Dewey N - April 27, 2010
I still don't believe we have Sweeney on our team.
joey90 - April 27, 2010
Don't ruin this.
the other side - April 27, 2010
We don't!
Jeff Sullivan - April 27, 2010
Like the old saying goes
It’s better to not believe in the not truth than to believe in the truth
Dewey N - April 27, 2010
The Walking Banana post was less depressing.
InSpokane - April 27, 2010
Depressing is fun!
Dewey N - April 27, 2010
If you're a country music signer.
InSpokane - April 27, 2010
That would be a tough job.
Hopefulmsfan - April 27, 2010
Necessary, though.
A lot of country music fans are quite deaf.
JLProck - April 27, 2010
I just caught that typo. Well played.
InSpokane - April 27, 2010
I don't see how
Giant Walking Banana is a real and active threat to humanity
Jeff Sullivan - April 27, 2010
This is just baseball
Jeff Sullivan - April 27, 2010
Somebody's a drama queen
Jeff Sullivan - April 27, 2010
?
Dewey N - April 27, 2010
I wish I could rec that twice.
InSpokane - April 27, 2010
Woah, when did Doug Fister play for the Pirates?
marinerdan - April 27, 2010
IT IS SO CLEAR
Jeff Sullivan - April 27, 2010
This isn't the series preview
Graham MacAree - April 27, 2010
Big bad Banany Johnson!
Dewey N - April 27, 2010
I love LL.
Eyebrows - April 27, 2010 via mobile
Big Bad Randy Banana!
Jeff Sullivan - April 27, 2010
Gross. Randy Bananas are disgusting.
InSpokane - April 27, 2010
I'll point to Griffey and Sweeney's failure to get injured.
Rollo Tomasi - April 27, 2010
Somebody get the Giant Banana on it
A banana that big would make for one hell of a giant pratfall. Might be able to take out both of them in one fell swoop.
ThomasG - April 27, 2010
Maybe they can let the Mariner Moose drive the ATV one more time.
Hopefulmsfan - April 27, 2010
Any chance that we demote Snell and keep Fister?
Or is that just unrealistic?
MT Olson - April 27, 2010
Yes, I'd say about a 99% chance.
That 1% is if Snell throws a complete game shutout and keeps his spot.
refuse2lose2010 - April 27, 2010
Let's hope Snell just goes to the BP.
If Snell’s gone before Colome I’ll have to wonder what’s going on.
Hopefulmsfan - April 27, 2010
I have some hope
that Snell in the bullpen might work out pretty well. Gaining some velocity on the fastball and slider might make him useful.
Edgar for Pres - April 27, 2010
That is what will happen
Snell’s going to the bullpen.
Jeff Sullivan - April 27, 2010
I think Snell's out of options.
Benne - April 27, 2010
No, I'm pretty sure he has more excuses up his sleeves
Matthew - April 27, 2010
Snell's dog ate his control
Gihyou - April 27, 2010
We can blame it on Lee's absence
if we assume that the baseball gods shift performance from the TTL baseline. Given a comparable level of pitching over his head, he would have thrown, oh, two perfect games and one no-hitter to this point. We’d probably be 2-1 in his starts with two 1-0 wins and a 0-2 loss (two runs scored on dropped strikeouts and consecutive passed balls), so maybe we’d be 10-10!
Torjazz - April 27, 2010
The way I look at it
A lot of Mariners are actively sucking. With Cliff Lee pitching, everyone’s a little less worried about how much they suck, and it gets a little easier to win while totally sucking.
chaney - April 27, 2010
What is hanging from Cliff Lee's chin in the picture?
qrsouther - April 27, 2010
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