Once again, vote based on your own personal opinion, using whatever criteria you like.
0recs |
81
comments
Comments
I fucking LOVE Milton Bradley
Going to drive down to Anaheim when the Mariners play there, catch Bradley off guard, and be like “We’re going to fucking Disneyland whether you like it or not”
Well, it doesn’t make me uncomfortable cheering for him. I’ve worked with many young children at camps or the Aquarium or as a volunteer tutoring or teaching, and Milton reminds me of a grown-up version one wonderful six or seven-year old kid I know. He’s the sweetest, nicest kid ever – I’ve never seen him make fun of another kid or say something mean – but whenever someone slights him or hits him or hurts his feelings, he freaks out and goes nuts because he instinctively feels he MUST respond to it with escalation. It’s because, far too often, the response to his tantrums has been violence as discipline. I think Bradley went through a pretty traumatic childhood (Mike Sweeney hinted at that earlier this year), and he’s on the edge of crazy because of it, so that and the mutual nature of the violence (and the lack of a conviction – I don’t think it’s really cool to call someone who hasn’t been convicted a wife-beater, etc. unless you personally know that it’s true) mitigates my concerns a little bit, but it still is in the back of my mind often.
I admit a part of my love for Milton is based on the fact that so many other teams’ fans hate him. I always enjoy seeing a guy playing the game with passion though—unless he plays for the Angels.
I really liked his antics and what he does, but when he fake threw the ball to the KC fans and then made sure a Mariner fan got a ball, he sealed the deal as my favorite Mariner on this time right now.
He’s got passion, and that’s good, but the question is whether he can channel his passion and energy productively. Passion and intensity are good. Immaturity is not. It’s a fine line, and I’m still waiting to see what side of it he’ll be on.
I did not mean to waive my arms, flare my nostrils and shout my comment. I meant to stand very still, eyes fixed, head tilted to the side, with an expression on my face that revealed nothing, yet everything, and whisper those words in a clear, piercing, expressionless tone, as my 275 pet snakes of various species slither around all over me and in the immediate vicinity.
I voted "don't like" but hummed and hawwed for a long time first
My opinion should have a capital O for “Obvious” perhaps, but here it goes:
- I guess I like Milton Bradley the baseball player and I think his bat helps this team, even if inconsistent.
- I don’t like Milton Bradley the person. All the off-field problems, blah blah blah, he’s probably a jerk if you know him personally, all that’s been said a million times. Lot’s of athletes are not exactly model citizens and yet we still adore them. That’s not what bothers me about Bradley though.
- I get very annoyed by his whiny “woe is me” attitude where he acts like his life is so terrible and he has had hard luck and we should all feel sorry for him (remember his interview at the start of the year where he complained that he couldn’t go out in public in Chicago?) DUDE – you are a professional baseball player! You make millions of dollars a year to play a game for a living! Your life is not tragic in any way. You are the envy of all us “normal” people who toil away to make ends meet. Shut up, we aren’t buying it. Or, if you are really convinced that your life is miserable, call me up and we can trade places (you’ll have to teach me how to hit). I’ll even buy you an ice cream cone first.
- Much has been made of the love-fest that is the Mariners clubhouse these days, so all this is perhaps less of a risk here than anywhere else, which is why I hesitated a lot before voting “don’t like”.
Just because someone else in the world may have more problems than you doesn't mean your problems aren't valid.
I hate that line of reasoning. Yes, I understand perspective, but just because someone else has got it worse doesn’t mean things don’t suck sometimes. And I do think that Bradley has some cause for complaining, especially when it comes to racist treatment from fans and media obsession with him when they should just let it go.
I would say the more in the spotlight that you are, the harder your public life is going to be.
Yes, actors and athletes make millions of dollars and don’t have to worry about making ends meet (if they are smart with their money, which doesn’t really apply to NBA players). But that doesn’t mean that the pressure that is put on them by the media and fans is not an issue. I could understand complaining if every mistake that you made at work was written about and scrutinized on fan boards. Then when you go out, you are constantly hounded by the media and fans. I’m not so sure I would want to have the public life of any actor or pro athlete.
It's pretty clear that he had a traumatic childhood and was subjected to alot of violence in the environment in which he grew up.
Stuff like that usually causes permanent psychological damage and makes finding an emotional equilibrium extremely difficult. And the pressures of playing in MLB can make it harder to right yourself emotionally when your psychology is out of whack.
I went to spring training this year with a Chicago Cubs fan. We went down to the field and Milton stopped by to sign autographs before the game. The hate that my friend had for Milton, it bypassed all other hate. It was incredible the disdain that Chicagoans have for him and he has for them.
As Milton walked by we egged my friend on to say something to Milton if he hated him so much.
“Milton, is it true what you said about the Cubs?”
“What did I say?”
“That they ruined your career!”
“It’s the truth”
and he walked away.
I knew right then and there that he was going to be one of my favorite players for sure. And I also had no doubt before I voted that it would strongly favor love more than any of the other polls. Seattle needs a guy like Milton Bradley. There won’t be any pussification in that clubhouse.
And it’s multi-tiered. Considering how he got through, what he went through, how good he is as a baseball player, and how he acts as an entertainer, it’s very simple.
Really, when the team traded for Milton Bradley, I tried to keep an open mind. He’s clearly done things to cause the majority of the fanbase from nearly every team he’s ever been on to hate him. On top of that he’s done things that have made him a radioactive player to most ballclubs. I don’t support or defend his past. He’s clearly had issues and could stand to handle things much better than he chose to do so.
With that said, I wanted Milton Bradley himself to give me reasons to hate him. I wanted to see Milton Bradley, the person, after being given the support that this organization provides. If he can’t make it here, I’m fairly certain that he’s going to be out of baseball by default.
But thanks to fans of other clubs either trying to constantly warn us about what to expect from Milton Bradley or exclaiming that we’re experiencing “stages of Milton Bradley” I couldn’t help but root for him right out of the gate. Bradley calls himself the “Ron Artest of baseball.” To me he channels the spirit of a wrestling heel (bad guy). There’s no way Bradley can fix his baseball image but he can certainly have fun with it. I’m having a blast with the “Milton Bradley experience.”
If he picks up his hitting, It will be bumped up to love. I love =/ =) =/ and his interviews, but it’s hard for me to love him until he actually starts hitting. Just a response to his early season slumps.
I fucking LOVE Milton Bradley
Going to drive down to Anaheim when the Mariners play there, catch Bradley off guard, and be like “We’re going to fucking Disneyland whether you like it or not”
OceanBird - April 30, 2010
LOVE LOVE LOVE
kentroyals5 - April 30, 2010
Before the season started I didn't know where I stood.
But after having him for a month, I absolutely love this guy. It’s almost comical how much the media plays into a person’s view of the guy.
d0nkey - April 30, 2010
I predict this is the first poll you'll put up that doesn't have a bell curve
Corco - April 30, 2010
LOVE
One of my favorite all-time Mariners already.
Slica - April 30, 2010
HATE?
I demand to know who voted that they hat Milty. WHO?
CHutMariners - April 30, 2010
It's that 1% Jeff and Matthew talk about.
Probably the same people that said Bedard would pitch over 200 innings.
Fear - April 30, 2010
Or anyone who has paid attention to his career shenanigans
DrunkAmerican - April 30, 2010
I did some digging, it's his ex-wife.
CHutMariners - April 30, 2010
The domestic abuse stuff
Granted, the reports made it seem like the violence went both ways, but it still makes me uncomfortable cheering for him.
abelard - April 30, 2010
Same here.
Well, it doesn’t make me uncomfortable cheering for him. I’ve worked with many young children at camps or the Aquarium or as a volunteer tutoring or teaching, and Milton reminds me of a grown-up version one wonderful six or seven-year old kid I know. He’s the sweetest, nicest kid ever – I’ve never seen him make fun of another kid or say something mean – but whenever someone slights him or hits him or hurts his feelings, he freaks out and goes nuts because he instinctively feels he MUST respond to it with escalation. It’s because, far too often, the response to his tantrums has been violence as discipline. I think Bradley went through a pretty traumatic childhood (Mike Sweeney hinted at that earlier this year), and he’s on the edge of crazy because of it, so that and the mutual nature of the violence (and the lack of a conviction – I don’t think it’s really cool to call someone who hasn’t been convicted a wife-beater, etc. unless you personally know that it’s true) mitigates my concerns a little bit, but it still is in the back of my mind often.
Decatur - April 30, 2010
Big fan
I admit a part of my love for Milton is based on the fact that so many other teams’ fans hate him. I always enjoy seeing a guy playing the game with passion though—unless he plays for the Angels.
Tophawkeye - April 30, 2010
yeah
screw the angels.
Charles Gipson - April 30, 2010
Milton Bradley is amazing.
I just wish he could be permanent DH.
Charles Gipson - April 30, 2010
He wouldn't hit as well
Bearskin Rugburn - April 30, 2010
Why do you say this?
RunningFool - April 30, 2010
Logic.
d0nkey - April 30, 2010
There have been studies that show that DH/position players tend to hit better while playing the field as well
seattlebruin - April 30, 2010
Please be the real Charles Gipson
Please.
I Lick Squirrels - April 30, 2010
I love the guy
I really liked his antics and what he does, but when he fake threw the ball to the KC fans and then made sure a Mariner fan got a ball, he sealed the deal as my favorite Mariner on this time right now.
seiferguy - April 30, 2010
dammit
I meant “on this team”
seiferguy - April 30, 2010
Lou Piniella is another one of the 3 voters.
CHutMariners - April 30, 2010
I'm not sure who will be the inside of the spoon and who will be the outside,
but I think two smart guys like us will figure it out.
Attractive Nuisance - April 30, 2010
I said "don't have a strong opinion"
He’s got passion, and that’s good, but the question is whether he can channel his passion and energy productively. Passion and intensity are good. Immaturity is not. It’s a fine line, and I’m still waiting to see what side of it he’ll be on.
b_rider - April 30, 2010
Respek! Good point.
CHutMariners - April 30, 2010
But I still love ol' Milty.
CHutMariners - April 30, 2010
I hate you with the white hot intensity of 1,000 suns
Attractive Nuisance - April 30, 2010
Huh?
b_rider - April 30, 2010
How can I make myself clearer?
Attractive Nuisance - April 30, 2010
Exclamation points. Lots of them.
ToddK - April 30, 2010
That would obscure my meaning.
I did not mean to waive my arms, flare my nostrils and shout my comment. I meant to stand very still, eyes fixed, head tilted to the side, with an expression on my face that revealed nothing, yet everything, and whisper those words in a clear, piercing, expressionless tone, as my 275 pet snakes of various species slither around all over me and in the immediate vicinity.
Attractive Nuisance - April 30, 2010
I think he's trying to say that you two could get along nicely.
the other side - April 30, 2010
Hockey example: Alex Ovechkin
I think he’ll find the balance eventually, but he hasn’t yet.
b_rider - April 30, 2010
Except Milton Bradley isn't the best player in the majors
Graham MacAree - April 30, 2010
The results of this poll thus far please me.
sanford_and_son - April 30, 2010
Yeah, after his awesome game down in KC,
and his super awesome interview after the game down there, I can say that I love the man. He’s hilarious.
Enrique - April 30, 2010
I wonder when the outsiders will drop by
Jeff Sullivan - April 30, 2010
I imagine there'll be a nice and easy way to tell.
Eyeball Kid - April 30, 2010
I voted "don't like" but hummed and hawwed for a long time first
My opinion should have a capital O for “Obvious” perhaps, but here it goes:
- I guess I like Milton Bradley the baseball player and I think his bat helps this team, even if inconsistent.
- I don’t like Milton Bradley the person. All the off-field problems, blah blah blah, he’s probably a jerk if you know him personally, all that’s been said a million times. Lot’s of athletes are not exactly model citizens and yet we still adore them. That’s not what bothers me about Bradley though.
- I get very annoyed by his whiny “woe is me” attitude where he acts like his life is so terrible and he has had hard luck and we should all feel sorry for him (remember his interview at the start of the year where he complained that he couldn’t go out in public in Chicago?) DUDE – you are a professional baseball player! You make millions of dollars a year to play a game for a living! Your life is not tragic in any way. You are the envy of all us “normal” people who toil away to make ends meet. Shut up, we aren’t buying it. Or, if you are really convinced that your life is miserable, call me up and we can trade places (you’ll have to teach me how to hit). I’ll even buy you an ice cream cone first.
- Much has been made of the love-fest that is the Mariners clubhouse these days, so all this is perhaps less of a risk here than anywhere else, which is why I hesitated a lot before voting “don’t like”.
shuswapslugger - April 30, 2010
Just because someone else in the world may have more problems than you doesn't mean your problems aren't valid.
I hate that line of reasoning. Yes, I understand perspective, but just because someone else has got it worse doesn’t mean things don’t suck sometimes. And I do think that Bradley has some cause for complaining, especially when it comes to racist treatment from fans and media obsession with him when they should just let it go.
Eyebrows - April 30, 2010 via mobile
Also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Money_Mo_Problems
Eyebrows - April 30, 2010 via mobile
My guess is that Milton Bradley's probably awesome if you know him personally
Graham MacAree - April 30, 2010
He seems like the guy you always take along to kill anyone who doesn't agree with you.
Which is very useful.
the other side - April 30, 2010
Yea, he is your buddy that always seems to be in the middle of a fight when he's had a few.
I like going out drinking with those types.
Andrew E - April 30, 2010
I would say the more in the spotlight that you are, the harder your public life is going to be.
Yes, actors and athletes make millions of dollars and don’t have to worry about making ends meet (if they are smart with their money, which doesn’t really apply to NBA players). But that doesn’t mean that the pressure that is put on them by the media and fans is not an issue. I could understand complaining if every mistake that you made at work was written about and scrutinized on fan boards. Then when you go out, you are constantly hounded by the media and fans. I’m not so sure I would want to have the public life of any actor or pro athlete.
seattle_since_81 - April 30, 2010
It's pretty clear that he had a traumatic childhood and was subjected to alot of violence in the environment in which he grew up.
Stuff like that usually causes permanent psychological damage and makes finding an emotional equilibrium extremely difficult. And the pressures of playing in MLB can make it harder to right yourself emotionally when your psychology is out of whack.
Decatur - April 30, 2010
It appears 5 chicago fans have infiltrated the blog. They must be hunted down.
the other side - April 30, 2010
There should be a higher option than just "love"
Maybe “want to have rough gay sex with” or something.
I Lick Squirrels - April 30, 2010
I know who'd be the one vote for "I want to dress Milton Bradley in a squirrel costume"
PissedMick - April 30, 2010
Jarrod Washburn looking for a mate?
Graham MacAree - April 30, 2010
Washburn only reads Halos Heaven.
PissedMick - April 30, 2010
I think love probably works for the venue, but whatever floats you're boat.
the other side - April 30, 2010
I bet a broken bat would be involved.
Hopefully he uses the non-splintered end.
Eyebrows - April 30, 2010 via mobile
That seems like the sort of thing Milton would be open to
Jeff Sullivan - April 30, 2010
You should put up a Franklin Gutierrez poll just for fun.
the other side - April 30, 2010
I'm doing everybody
Jeff Sullivan - April 30, 2010
Which you'll notice as soon as the next one goes up
Jeff Sullivan - April 30, 2010
Awesome, thanks.
the other side - April 30, 2010
Hey that looks suspiciously like alphabetical order
Graham MacAree - April 30, 2010
What!!
Jeff Sullivan - April 30, 2010
çalm down.
No need to sound like a douchebag.
Robert - April 30, 2010 via mobile
That's what she said?
Kenny Knows Sports - April 30, 2010
Aw
Jeff Sullivan - April 30, 2010
I missed this image.
Eyebrows - April 30, 2010 via mobile
I gave it a 50/50 shot that not saying "thats what she said" would be in the LL rules.
Kenny Knows Sports - April 30, 2010
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::★
The More You Know
Eyebrows - April 30, 2010 via mobile
HA
Sweet.
DrunkAmerican - April 30, 2010
Can't hate the Eagle Eye.
CHutMariners - April 30, 2010
The Chicago-Bradley relationship was so sour
I went to spring training this year with a Chicago Cubs fan. We went down to the field and Milton stopped by to sign autographs before the game. The hate that my friend had for Milton, it bypassed all other hate. It was incredible the disdain that Chicagoans have for him and he has for them.
As Milton walked by we egged my friend on to say something to Milton if he hated him so much.
“Milton, is it true what you said about the Cubs?”
“What did I say?”
“That they ruined your career!”
“It’s the truth”
and he walked away.
I knew right then and there that he was going to be one of my favorite players for sure. And I also had no doubt before I voted that it would strongly favor love more than any of the other polls. Seattle needs a guy like Milton Bradley. There won’t be any pussification in that clubhouse.
Kenny Knows Sports - April 30, 2010
We traded Carlos Silva for him
I would vote love for Mike Sweeney if we had traded Carlos Silva for him.
Robert - April 30, 2010 via mobile
My love for Milton has been well-documented
And it’s multi-tiered. Considering how he got through, what he went through, how good he is as a baseball player, and how he acts as an entertainer, it’s very simple.
Milton is just the best.
cwel87 - April 30, 2010
So far, I love Milton Bradley
Really, when the team traded for Milton Bradley, I tried to keep an open mind. He’s clearly done things to cause the majority of the fanbase from nearly every team he’s ever been on to hate him. On top of that he’s done things that have made him a radioactive player to most ballclubs. I don’t support or defend his past. He’s clearly had issues and could stand to handle things much better than he chose to do so.
With that said, I wanted Milton Bradley himself to give me reasons to hate him. I wanted to see Milton Bradley, the person, after being given the support that this organization provides. If he can’t make it here, I’m fairly certain that he’s going to be out of baseball by default.
But thanks to fans of other clubs either trying to constantly warn us about what to expect from Milton Bradley or exclaiming that we’re experiencing “stages of Milton Bradley” I couldn’t help but root for him right out of the gate. Bradley calls himself the “Ron Artest of baseball.” To me he channels the spirit of a wrestling heel (bad guy). There’s no way Bradley can fix his baseball image but he can certainly have fun with it. I’m having a blast with the “Milton Bradley experience.”
ThundaPC - April 30, 2010
The Milton Bradley Experience, you say?
I Lick Squirrels - May 5, 2010
I've always loved Milton Bradley.
He brings that football player swagger to a sport, and a team, that desperately needs it.
refuse2lose2010 - April 30, 2010
So did Al Martin.
Sec 108 - April 30, 2010
HAHA. Yeah where did he play again, USC?
So funny that he didn’t think anyone would figure it out.
refuse2lose2010 - April 30, 2010
Oops this is a non-hockey based off-topic comment.
It will probably get removed.
refuse2lose2010 - April 30, 2010
I love Milton. I love him. I want to get in a fist fight on his behalf.
royalcurve - April 30, 2010
I bet I'll get my chance!
royalcurve - May 5, 2010
I voted like.
If he picks up his hitting, It will be bumped up to love. I love =/ =) =/ and his interviews, but it’s hard for me to love him until he actually starts hitting. Just a response to his early season slumps.
joof - April 30, 2010
You must Login with your SB Nation account and be a member of Lookout Landing to post a comment.